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2012-11-26 11:33:02 AM
The pose she's in certainly looks inappropriate at first glance. How much time do people expect Facebook employees to spend checking each photo reported inappropriate?
 
2012-11-26 12:04:48 PM
Yeah, it's absolutely crazy that facebook's algorithm has such a high instance of false positives. Sheerly unfathomable that it might think that elbow was a boob.

Even with human moderators, my company has had to make our moderation tool configurable such that the moderator sees a small thumbnail of an image instead of the whole thing. Because let's see how you feel after a 12 hour shift of looking at full sized hoarse pictures. So yeah, it's understandable that a thumbnail of that would be quickly dismissed as a boob and not further inspected if the moderator was gay or an ass man.
 
2012-11-26 12:07:03 PM
Talk about sharp elbows!
 
2012-11-26 12:20:25 PM
Eh, I could probably still rub one out to it.
 
2012-11-26 12:25:35 PM
www.offbeatenough.com
 
2012-11-26 12:29:10 PM

Krymson Tyde: [www.offbeatenough.com image 600x450]


THats even better
 
2012-11-26 01:46:54 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Eh, I could probably still rub one out to it.


It looks pretty hot if you squint and turn your head sideways. I'll be in my bunk.
 
2012-11-26 01:51:09 PM
Interesting how there are guidelines on verbal humor and it is a bunch of people whose native language is not English are, somehow, going to "get" the jokes or not.
 
2012-11-26 01:57:41 PM
Has anyone else's friends copy-pasted that dumb declaration on their wall yet that supposedly free's them of Facebooks TOS they agreed to by citing some laws and other internet lawyer nonsense?

I had to politely put out a status update kindly informing people (after seeing a family member and a friend post this stupid declaration) that there little post is as useless as tits on a bull.
 
2012-11-26 01:57:43 PM
what about
24.media.tumblr.com
style
??
 
2012-11-26 02:01:29 PM
Putting this on my "Reasons why I'm not on Facebook" list...
 
2012-11-26 02:04:30 PM
Are they deleted because they feature inappropriate sexual content... or are they deleted because Facebook can't use them as a revenue source? Check the TOS, if you upload it you've given them a license to use it in their promo's and adverts should they wish.

And the other question is: Is the image REALLY deleted as in 'gone from the server' or just hidden from public view?
 
2012-11-26 02:09:56 PM
FTA: Facebook is moderated by workers in Morocco and other developing countries paid $1 an hour via an online outsourcing company called oDesk, one of whose aggrieved workers leaked details of policies, pictured above, earlier this year.

I think I see the problem here.
 
2012-11-26 02:16:57 PM
Meh, why do people insist on putting such unflattering pictures on there anyway.
 
2012-11-26 02:19:40 PM
www.evilmilk.com
 
2012-11-26 02:20:19 PM
Isn't that image technically NSFW in that the point is if someone walking by may perceive it as pron?

I had to do a double fap take and I'm sitting right up to the screen in front of the monitor
 
2012-11-26 02:21:20 PM
/I'm talking about the image FTA/woman in the bathtub
 
2012-11-26 02:25:47 PM
 
2012-11-26 02:31:15 PM

zvoidx: Isn't that image technically NSFW in that the point is if someone walking by may perceive it as pron?



I would say so. If I ran across it here(except maybe in an obvious boobies thread), I would have deleted it immediately so no one got in trouble at work from a passing boss. After looking at it further, I'm not sure what I would do about it for future threads, but I'm of the opinion it is staged well enough to get someone in trouble at work-- so is therefore NSFW.
 
/mod's 2¢
//YMMV
 
2012-11-26 02:43:50 PM
gallery.follandfamily.com
 
2012-11-26 02:45:09 PM

Latinwolf: FTA: Facebook is moderated by workers in Morocco and other developing countries paid $1 an hour via an online outsourcing company called oDesk, one of whose aggrieved workers leaked details of policies, pictured above, earlier this year.

I think I see the problem here.


Aggrieved workers of oDesk? Umm, oDesk is a site that hooks up employers with employees, its like selling on eBay, you have to be careful, you don't "work for oDesk". I started my career on oDesk and did very well on it before moving on, people abused on oDesk are the same people who are abused on eBay.
 
2012-11-26 02:45:18 PM
For some reason, this "Fals Positive NSFW"-thread is making me giggle like a little girl.
 
2012-11-26 02:50:10 PM

Shazam999: [www.evilmilk.com image 600x599]


Tranny porn, in my Fark?
 
2012-11-26 02:53:04 PM
People still use Facebook?
 
2012-11-26 02:57:30 PM

Pincy: People still use Facebook?


losers.....i'm still on friendster
 
2012-11-26 03:03:32 PM

eagles95: Pincy: People still use Facebook?

losers.....i'm still on friendster


lol loser, my webring on geocities is now up to 34 sites.. 29 of them are 404'ed urls of websites formely hosted at xoom.com but I'm working on that.
 
2012-11-26 03:03:40 PM
Yep, it would be NSFW in my opinion too.  Not because of what is actually there, but because of the perception.  We don't want someone losing their job or internet access simply because a supervisor saw or thought they saw them viewing pron.
 
Sometimes the fake but accurate or accurate but fake NSFW has to go too.  Sadly.
 
2012-11-26 03:03:45 PM

serial_crusher: Yeah, it's absolutely crazy that facebook's algorithm has such a high instance of false positives. Sheerly unfathomable that it might think that elbow was a boob.

Even with human moderators, my company has had to make our moderation tool configurable such that the moderator sees a small thumbnail of an image instead of the whole thing. Because let's see how you feel after a 12 hour shift of looking at full sized horse pictures. So yeah, it's understandable that a thumbnail of that would be quickly dismissed as a boob and not further inspected if the moderator was gay or an ass man.


i1239.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-26 03:19:52 PM

Pincy: People still use Facebook?


Get back to MySpace.

BACK I SAY.
 
2012-11-26 03:22:53 PM

Vaneshi: Are they deleted because they feature inappropriate sexual content... or are they deleted because Facebook can't use them as a revenue source? Check the TOS, if you upload it you've given them a license to use it in their promo's and adverts should they wish.

And the other question is: Is the image REALLY deleted as in 'gone from the server' or just hidden from public view?


My understanding was FB has a hard to impossible time perma deleting every single photo because their storage system has to handle billions of pictures a second, so they don't reference them in a standard way, they reference them in a one-off system that precludes this and I have no clue how that works and hope someone else does.

Also tranny down thread is surprisingly cute. Good for him.
 
2012-11-26 03:33:19 PM
images.tvrage.com

Not amused
 
2012-11-26 03:41:17 PM
i'm just endlessly amused by how an entirely demure photo of a breastfeeding mother will get banned in minutes, but a mirror shot of a 15 year old in just a thong, cupping her tits with one hand, is totally fine and dandy.

/then again, one has broader creeper appeal...
 
2012-11-26 03:49:36 PM

buttery_shame_cave: i'm just endlessly amused by how an entirely demure photo of a breastfeeding mother will get banned in minutes, but a mirror shot of a 15 year old in just a thong, cupping her tits with one hand, is totally fine and dandy.

/then again, one has broader creeper appeal...



I'm sure some of that has to do with what was reported, if anything.  Mods can't be everywhere.  And while, NSFW is sometimes in the eye of the beholding Mod, there are some that are clearly NSFW and many that are in that gray area.  Again, the point isn't to limit people's creativity but to make sure no one gets penalized at work. 
 
2012-11-26 03:52:52 PM
Oppa is Gingham Style.
 
Looks at Youtube realizes this has already been beaten into the ground.
 
This festive Coplandesque barn-raising has been CANCELLED!
 
2012-11-26 04:21:04 PM
FTA: "It has warned that users who continue to post photos which it deems inappropriate could lose their access to the site."

My life would end if I didn't have a FB account.

/Oh, wait . . .
 
2012-11-26 04:26:45 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-26 04:30:51 PM

dugitman: zvoidx: Isn't that image technically NSFW in that the point is if someone walking by may perceive it as pron?


I would say so. If I ran across it here(except maybe in an obvious boobies thread), I would have deleted it immediately so no one got in trouble at work from a passing boss. After looking at it further, I'm not sure what I would do about it for future threads, but I'm of the opinion it is staged well enough to get someone in trouble at work-- so is therefore NSFW.
 
/mod's 2¢
//YMMV


Are you saying you are looking out for my best interest?

/Agree with you though on some.
 
2012-11-26 04:34:48 PM

StrikitRich: Not amused


I'm not a "reality" TV guy but I am going to watch the shiat out of that show.
 
2012-11-26 04:49:09 PM

bulok: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x259]


It's a streetlight.
 
2012-11-26 04:59:44 PM
What does Star Trek have to do with this?
 
2012-11-26 05:13:05 PM

SearchN: Are you saying you are looking out for my best interest?


Wait, what are you talking about, WE decided? MY best interests? How do you know what MY best interest is? How can you say what MY best interest is? What are you trying to say? I'M crazy? When I went to YOUR schools, I went to YOUR churches, I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities? So how can you say I'M crazy?
 
2012-11-26 05:17:46 PM

bulok: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x259]


img300.imageshack.us

inb4: The lie is a lie.
 
2012-11-26 05:24:27 PM

gwenners: SearchN: Are you saying you are looking out for my best interest?

Wait, what are you talking about, WE decided? MY best interests? How do you know what MY best interest is? How can you say what MY best interest is? What are you trying to say? I'M crazy? When I went to YOUR schools, I went to YOUR churches, I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities? So how can you say I'M crazy?


Long answer: Yes.

Short answer: While the opportunity arises occasionally for me to jab a certain mod for personal entertainment I do understand the point of view he has. With my proclivity to entice certain members of our community in specific threads, which may or may not be NSFW (Not Safe for Work), I agree with his statement. There is a certain line and once crossed it can lead to issues for employee's (note: not employers) when viewing said discussions. At times not only will the moderators take action to remove said images and or text, there are times when items will slip through the safety net at which point well minded users may point out the violations of the ToS (Terms of Service) that we all agree to when using this site.

So, longer answer: Yes, you are crazy.

/Threadjack over.
 
2012-11-26 05:28:30 PM

gibbon1: bulok: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x259]

[img300.imageshack.us image 678x507]

inb4: The lie is a lie.


us.fun.marinov.net
 
2012-11-26 05:33:00 PM

SearchN: gwenners: SearchN: Are you saying you are looking out for my best interest?

Wait, what are you talking about, WE decided? MY best interests? How do you know what MY best interest is? How can you say what MY best interest is? What are you trying to say? I'M crazy? When I went to YOUR schools, I went to YOUR churches, I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities? So how can you say I'M crazy?

Long answer: Yes.

Short answer: While the opportunity arises occasionally for me to jab a certain mod for personal entertainment I do understand the point of view he has. With my proclivity to entice certain members of our community in specific threads, which may or may not be NSFW (Not Safe for Work), I agree with his statement. There is a certain line and once crossed it can lead to issues for employee's (note: not employers) when viewing said discussions. At times not only will the moderators take action to remove said images and or text, there are times when items will slip through the safety net at which point well minded users may point out the violations of the ToS (Terms of Service) that we all agree to when using this site.

So, longer answer: Yes, you are crazy.

/Threadjack over.


Some people just don't have suicidal tendencies, I guess.
 
2012-11-26 05:39:28 PM

gibbon1: bulok: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x259]

[img300.imageshack.us image 678x507]

inb4: The lie is a lie.


Interesting then that the lamp shade is throwing source light onto the thighs, yet the other parts of the background don't seem to be on the woman. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's a shop of a shop, and it really is a lamp.

/having seen many pixels in my time
 
2012-11-26 05:40:17 PM

scottydoesntknow: Talk about sharp elbows!


dammit!
 
2012-11-26 05:43:51 PM

Hence the Name...: SearchN: gwenners: SearchN: Are you saying you are looking out for my best interest?

Wait, what are you talking about, WE decided? MY best interests? How do you know what MY best interest is? How can you say what MY best interest is? What are you trying to say? I'M crazy? When I went to YOUR schools, I went to YOUR churches, I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities? So how can you say I'M crazy?

Long answer: Yes.

Short answer: While the opportunity arises occasionally for me to jab a certain mod for personal entertainment I do understand the point of view he has. With my proclivity to entice certain members of our community in specific threads, which may or may not be NSFW (Not Safe for Work), I agree with his statement. There is a certain line and once crossed it can lead to issues for employee's (note: not employers) when viewing said discussions. At times not only will the moderators take action to remove said images and or text, there are times when items will slip through the safety net at which point well minded users may point out the violations of the ToS (Terms of Service) that we all agree to when using this site.

So, longer answer: Yes, you are crazy.

/Threadjack over.

Some people just don't have suicidal tendencies, I guess.


Perhaps they'd be better if they were institutionalized?

/all I wanted was a Pepsi, and SearchN wouldn't give it to me
 
2012-11-26 05:47:13 PM

gwenners: Hence the Name...: SearchN: gwenners: SearchN: Are you saying you are looking out for my best interest?

Wait, what are you talking about, WE decided? MY best interests? How do you know what MY best interest is? How can you say what MY best interest is? What are you trying to say? I'M crazy? When I went to YOUR schools, I went to YOUR churches, I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities? So how can you say I'M crazy?

Long answer: Yes.

Short answer: While the opportunity arises occasionally for me to jab a certain mod for personal entertainment I do understand the point of view he has. With my proclivity to entice certain members of our community in specific threads, which may or may not be NSFW (Not Safe for Work), I agree with his statement. There is a certain line and once crossed it can lead to issues for employee's (note: not employers) when viewing said discussions. At times not only will the moderators take action to remove said images and or text, there are times when items will slip through the safety net at which point well minded users may point out the violations of the ToS (Terms of Service) that we all agree to when using this site.

So, longer answer: Yes, you are crazy.

/Threadjack over.

Some people just don't have suicidal tendencies, I guess.

Perhaps they'd be better if they were institutionalized?

/all I wanted was a Pepsi, and SearchN wouldn't give it to me


jimmybook.com
 
2012-11-26 05:55:53 PM
She should have protested that the picture was art. ART, dammit!

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-26 06:00:28 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-26 06:08:46 PM
These "photos that look like something they're not" are pretty amusing. Is there a site out there that specializes in this thing? I mean specifically this thing? Because I'd like to browse it when I'm in the mood for a chuckle.
 
2012-11-26 06:25:41 PM

Cyno01: [i.imgur.com image 550x415]


All time favorite.
 
2012-11-26 06:35:46 PM
fapfapfapfapfap
 
2012-11-26 06:40:03 PM

ladyfortuna: gibbon1: bulok: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x259]

[img300.imageshack.us image 678x507]

inb4: The lie is a lie.

Interesting then that the lamp shade is throwing source light onto the thighs, yet the other parts of the background don't seem to be on the woman. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's a shop of a shop, and it really is a lamp.

/having seen many pixels in my time


I'm on my phone, but gis "the lamp is a lie is a lie"
 
2012-11-26 07:24:01 PM

Vaneshi: And the other question is: Is the image REALLY deleted as in 'gone from the server' or just hidden from public view?


No nothing gets "deleted" from their servers. If they are given a subpoena they will hand over all the data that they have for you. This will give you an idea of what happens when FB receives a subpoena on a person. Link
 
2012-11-26 07:33:31 PM

Parthenogenetic: She should have protested that the picture was art. ART, dammit!

[i.imgur.com image 634x631]


t1.gstatic.com
 
2012-11-26 07:42:25 PM

gwenners: Hence the Name...: SearchN: gwenners: SearchN: Are you saying you are looking out for my best interest?

Wait, what are you talking about, WE decided? MY best interests? How do you know what MY best interest is? How can you say what MY best interest is? What are you trying to say? I'M crazy? When I went to YOUR schools, I went to YOUR churches, I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities? So how can you say I'M crazy?

Long answer: Yes.

Short answer: While the opportunity arises occasionally for me to jab a certain mod for personal entertainment I do understand the point of view he has. With my proclivity to entice certain members of our community in specific threads, which may or may not be NSFW (Not Safe for Work), I agree with his statement. There is a certain line and once crossed it can lead to issues for employee's (note: not employers) when viewing said discussions. At times not only will the moderators take action to remove said images and or text, there are times when items will slip through the safety net at which point well minded users may point out the violations of the ToS (Terms of Service) that we all agree to when using this site.

So, longer answer: Yes, you are crazy.

/Threadjack over.

Some people just don't have suicidal tendencies, I guess.

Perhaps they'd be better if they were institutionalized?

/all I wanted was a Pepsi, and SearchN wouldn't give it to me


Sage Francis, is that you?
 
Boe
2012-11-26 08:05:11 PM
I kind of wonder what Facebook would have been like if it originated and was based in Europe.
 
2012-11-26 08:06:11 PM
While I get that we should try to stay kinda-sorta within NSFW here, being a public site and all, if you're at work and are honestly worried about a picture from a web forum getting you in trouble or fired, maybe you should not surf the web at work, or at least, do it on your cell phone.
 
2012-11-26 08:12:25 PM
I am the one with the Powah at my workplace. The POWAH to block and allow the internets as I see fit. I largely don't as our business is pretty old and the staff generally are grown up about such things, and I know I hated when my work internet was restricted more than necessary. That doesn't mean that I won't help if someone is so stupid about it that their manager requests a log of their net activities, I'll even interpret the results for 'em.

/browsing thechive.com when you're behind on absolutely-farking-everything is a no no
/fark.com is A-OK in my books, no worries Drew
 
2012-11-26 08:29:14 PM

gwenners:

/all I wanted was a Pepsi


That was my first thought when I started reading the comment you commented on.. you filled in the rest very well. Now off to get myself a Pepsi.
 
2012-11-26 08:51:27 PM
Hmm, you can get in big trouble for criticizing Ataturk. Silly Turkey - so many Turkish specific rules. I really don't get why that country is so sensitive about everything.
 
2012-11-26 08:57:19 PM
This is what Fark is all about.

I love you, people.
 
2012-11-26 09:14:11 PM

stainedglassdoll: gibbon1: bulok: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x259]

[img300.imageshack.us image 678x507]

inb4: The lie is a lie.

[us.fun.marinov.net image 500x375]


Ya know, people who don't know how the internet was designed to work or how to properly build a website have ZERO right to biatch when people link to their images. Idiots.
 
2012-11-26 09:27:03 PM
Hardly any racier than what's on their own login page...

farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2012-11-26 11:29:42 PM
Lol. The guidelines sheet says moose knuckles.
 
2012-11-27 04:57:01 AM
Fap! Fap! Fap!........... it's a what???......... you sure??......... awwwwwwwwwwwww bugger!
 
2012-11-27 07:28:24 AM
I'd motorboat those elbows.
 
2012-11-27 08:41:43 AM

Beanlet: gwenners:

/all I wanted was a Pepsi

That was my first thought when I started reading the comment you commented on.. you filled in the rest very well. Now off to get myself a Pepsi.


*ponders whether to colour you both as viral marketers* :)
 
2012-11-27 12:28:01 PM

serial_crusher: Yeah, it's absolutely crazy that facebook's algorithm has such a high instance of false positives. Sheerly unfathomable that it might think that elbow was a boob.

Even with human moderators, my company has had to make our moderation tool configurable such that the moderator sees a small thumbnail of an image instead of the whole thing. Because let's see how you feel after a 12 hour shift of looking at full sized hoarse pictures. So yeah, it's understandable that a thumbnail of that would be quickly dismissed as a boob and not further inspected if the moderator was gay or an ass man.


uhh. people get paid to do that, it's their jorb. If you can't handle looking at random pictures all day then find another job....
 
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