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(Christian Science Monitor)   Atheists less ignorant of religion than other groups. Subby's score: 30 religion: soft (less arrogant) atheist   (csmonitor.com) divider line 931
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2012-11-26 08:08:55 AM
I imagine that is because instead of blindly believing, Atheists actively investigate religion/s before rejecting it/them.
 
2012-11-26 08:11:45 AM
Or just quite enjoy going "you really believe that ...... BWAHAHAHA"
 
2012-11-26 08:16:04 AM
meh
a complete atheist got 100% correct ...
I am not impressed with test
 
2012-11-26 08:16:17 AM
30, Atheist here as well.

Got mixed up as to which Christian sect believes redemption comes through faith alone, and i've never heard of the great awakening.
 
2012-11-26 08:17:14 AM

namatad: meh
a complete atheist got 100% correct ...
I am not impressed with test


Indeed.
 
2012-11-26 08:17:37 AM
I'm an agnostic . I got 30 as well.
 
2012-11-26 08:17:41 AM
31 correct. O YA.
 
2012-11-26 08:17:54 AM

deffuse: I imagine that is because instead of blindly believing, Atheists actively investigate religion/s before rejecting it/them.


Uh huh. And creationists really deeply get into evolutionary biology before deciding Jesus rode velociraptors to heaven.
 
2012-11-26 08:18:56 AM
30, Deist/atheist (if he's there, we can't perceive him and he doesn't concern himself with our petty little endeavors)
 
2012-11-26 08:20:31 AM

namatad: meh
a complete atheist got 100% correct ...
I am not impressed with test


I quit after the first Buddhist question was wrong.


Nirvana is NOT the state of being free from suffering. It's complete freedom from the cycle of death and rebirth. There's levels to the cycle that are in fact free from mere suffering but still part of the thing.
 
2012-11-26 08:24:24 AM
You don't get it, subby, there are no hardcore, militant/soft, tolerant atheists. There are only atheists, and the fact you announced you are an atheist makes you a militant atheist forcing your atheism on religious people everywhere.

Still

30 Correct
2 Wrong You answered 30 of 32 questions correctly for a total score of 94%.

One I got genuinely wrong, the other my finger slipped. Honest, it did :(
 
2012-11-26 08:24:36 AM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: 30, Atheist here as well.

Got mixed up as to which Christian sect believes redemption comes through faith alone, and i've never heard of the great awakening.


Atheist, 31, didn't get the Great Awakening one either.

For the redemption through acts/faith, just remember that Catholics are obligated to go to confession, mass, communion, etc. They need to complete those acts for salvation in addition to faith.

Granted, the actual belief systems are more complicated, but it's an easy shorthand to remember which is which.
 
2012-11-26 08:26:49 AM
31/32 atheist

Stupid keep the sabbath holy
 
2012-11-26 08:27:30 AM

dahmers love zombie: 30, Deist/atheist (if he's there, we can't perceive him and he doesn't concern himself with our petty little endeavors)


Voodoo has the best take on this. The BIG god used to live on earth. But someone (another god) kept stealing his sandals. One day, he got fed up with that and said "Screw you guys, I'm goin' home." and left the loa in charge of godly duties here.

This meshes nicely with the Iroquois cult of the Stranger, who was another godly being in the world but not the creator. That one's actually funny and the whole cult itself is something I'd like to join. Cutting a mask from a living tree sounds amazingly spiritual.
 
2012-11-26 08:28:35 AM
Meh. I've met plenty of Christians to know the Bible a hell-of-a-lot-better than I do. But then, I don't really need to be super-knowledgeable in the Bible to know that a lot of it is pure mythology.

My opinion may not be applicable here though, since I'm 'Atheist Light (See 'Agnostic')'.
 
2012-11-26 08:30:26 AM
The question about agnostics is wrong. Agnostics believe the question of god's existence is fundamentally unknowable. It's not just they don't know, it's that they can't know.
 
2012-11-26 08:31:21 AM
29 correct, I messed up on the books in the old testament, and the one about the great awakening, and what the main religion of Indonesia was.
 
2012-11-26 08:33:20 AM

doglover: dahmers love zombie: 30, Deist/atheist (if he's there, we can't perceive him and he doesn't concern himself with our petty little endeavors)

Voodoo has the best take on this. The BIG god used to live on earth. But someone (another god) kept stealing his sandals. One day, he got fed up with that and said "Screw you guys, I'm goin' home." and left the loa in charge of godly duties here.

This meshes nicely with the Iroquois cult of the Stranger, who was another godly being in the world but not the creator. That one's actually funny and the whole cult itself is something I'd like to join. Cutting a mask from a living tree sounds amazingly spiritual.


Which is of course similar to the Gnostic Christian claim that the true creator (the Urge) has nothing to do with anything other than the act of creation; it is the lesser god, the Demiurge, who shaped the world and is intrinsically flawed. As a result, all the contents of creation are permanently separated by the Demiurge from true knowledge of the true god unless that true god bestows it upon them (i.e. enlightenment cannot be attained, only given).
 
2012-11-26 08:33:35 AM

Cythraul: My opinion may not be applicable here though, since I'm 'Atheist Light (See 'Agnostic')'.


Most atheists are atheists light. Atheists heavy are fairly rare. And I admin'd one of the largest atheists message boards back in the day. Trust me. :)
 
2012-11-26 08:33:59 AM
It uses the common, and completely wrong, meaning of agnostic. Theism and atheism are about belief, gnosticism and agnosticism are about knowledge. Agnosticism is not a middle ground between theism and atheism, but rather a statement about whether the question of God is knowable or unknowable. One may be either an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist as it is fully compatible with both forms of belief.
 
2012-11-26 08:35:58 AM
31/Romantic Atheist
 
2012-11-26 08:37:36 AM
30/32
- The guy with long M name who was Jewish...never heard of him
- The great awakening?

Off to Wikipedia!

dahmers love zombie: 30, Deist/atheist (if he's there, we can't perceive him and he doesn't concern himself with our petty little endeavors)

 

^ ditto
 
2012-11-26 08:37:56 AM

EvilEgg: The question about agnostics is wrong. Agnostics believe the question of god's existence is fundamentally unknowable. It's not just they don't know, it's that they can't know.


The quiz had a few things wrong because they used common perception instead of actual definition.

/still interesting
 
2012-11-26 08:38:26 AM
30. I swear I thought they had changed the whole body and blood thing to a symbolic act...I can't remember what the other one was.
 
2012-11-26 08:38:32 AM
Atheist: 31 and I dispute the one I got "wrong." Both Buddhists and Hindus seek Nirvana.
 
2012-11-26 08:39:06 AM
32 of 32.

That utterly useless quiz was more 'religion's greatest hits' and less 'do you actually know anything meaningful about the tenets of any religion'. I'm surprised they didn't include this question:

Which of these is an energy field created by all living things, that surrounds and penetrates living beings and binds the galaxy together:

1. Baptism
2. Bodhisattva
3. Jihad
4. Vidui
5. The Force
 
2012-11-26 08:40:38 AM
I call bullshiat on this. "all are in the 10 commandments" is clearly not one of the 10 commandments!
 
2012-11-26 08:43:17 AM

HakunaMatata: - The guy with long M name who was Jewish...never heard of him


Yup. He was the greatest Jewish scholar of the Middle Ages. On a par with Aquinas or Augustine in terms of importance.
 
2012-11-26 08:47:13 AM
I got a 29 out of 32.

It makes sense that religious people would do worse though. If you're convinced that your religion is right, and everybody else's is therefore wrong, it makes sense to not learn the details of how wrong they are. "hey you guys don't worship Skub? Well, that's all I need to know!" Doesn't matter what year the anti-Skub religion was founded, or what the name of the guy who founded it was.
 
2012-11-26 08:48:00 AM

MorrisBird: Atheist: 31 and I dispute the one I got "wrong." Both Buddhists and Hindus seek Nirvana.


That's what I thought, too. Also, I totally guessed on that Edwards guy, never heard of him.
 
2012-11-26 08:49:38 AM
84% Atheist.

I don't think all of their answers were necessarily "correct" either. But I straight-up flubbed Maimonides and The Great Awakening.
 
2012-11-26 08:50:26 AM
I got all 32 correct. Does that mean I'm automatically an atheist?
 
jrl
2012-11-26 08:52:12 AM
As Dog is my witness, I had no idea this would fly so high!

Subby here, and I look upon this work and see that it is good.

Agreed, this is a shallow and inaccurate quiz, some questions
I had to guess which wrong answer the author thought was true.

And yes, any atheist position is pretty militant in the sense that
mentioning my lack of belief got me ostracized in school. Hmm,
when was that again? Did you know we had to walk ten miles through
the snow?
 
2012-11-26 08:55:09 AM

serial_crusher: If you're convinced that your religion is right, and everybody else's is therefore wrong, it makes sense to not learn the details of how wrong they are.


One problem I see is that many religious types also don't bother to learn the details of how "right" they are. Belief trumps knowledge in all things, especially religion. The benefit to that is religious sects generally trend towards mainstream beliefs. You'll get radical shiat, like the Promisekeepers, and crazy outliers like the Phelps clan, but the bulk of any religion is going to use their religion to justify the mores of the society in which they live. It's only when those mores are undergoing change that religion becomes a powerfully regressive force.
 
2012-11-26 08:57:51 AM

jrl: As Dog is my witness, I had no idea this would fly so high!

Subby here, and I look upon this work and see that it is good.

Agreed, this is a shallow and inaccurate quiz, some questions
I had to guess which wrong answer the author thought was true.

And yes, any atheist position is pretty militant in the sense that
mentioning my lack of belief got me ostracized in school. Hmm,
when was that again? Did you know we had to walk ten miles through
the snow?


Both ways?
 
2012-11-26 08:59:29 AM
I got 33 out of 32. Don't ask now. It's a mystery and I don't need an explanation, I just believe.
 
2012-11-26 08:59:53 AM
Got a lowly 26. Seems I don't know much about Buddhism and Hinduism, and aside from the psychic, I hadn't heard about Johnathan Edwards.
 
2012-11-26 09:03:33 AM

Earguy: Got a lowly 26. Seems I don't know much about Buddhism and Hinduism, and aside from the psychic, I hadn't heard about Johnathan Edwards.


I got a 'lowly' 26 as well. Try not to be disappointed, though. According to the article, the average American only got 16 correct.
 
2012-11-26 09:06:46 AM

jrl: As Dog is my witness, I had no idea this would fly so high!

Subby here, and I look upon this work and see that it is good.

Agreed, this is a shallow and inaccurate quiz, some questions
I had to guess which wrong answer the author thought was true.

And yes, any atheist position is pretty militant in the sense that
mentioning my lack of belief got me ostracized in school. Hmm,
when was that again? Did you know we had to walk ten miles through
the snow?


And on this day you rested?
 
2012-11-26 09:07:48 AM
Agnostic: 84%
Some of those were a little too easy...you don't have to be that versed in religion to know Jesus was born in Bethlehem. You'd just have to have visited America during the month of December.
 
2012-11-26 09:14:18 AM

kid_icarus: Agnostic: 84%
Some of those were a little too easy...you don't have to be that versed in religion to know Jesus was born in Bethlehem. You'd just have to have visited America during the month of December.


Through that method, I also learned that baby Jesus, the shepherds, wise men, and so on, were all about 1/8th the size of normal people. And they were all surrounded by farm animals and straw.
 
2012-11-26 09:16:49 AM
30/32 correct.

Maimonides. (learned something new today)
Indonesian religious majority (unimportant in my life)

Good Ol' Big-Bang believin' Southern Baptist boy here.
 
2012-11-26 09:16:51 AM
32 of 32 atheist grew up in the a of g.
/so easy this quiz was
 
2012-11-26 09:17:08 AM
Man, the ones I was least sure about were all Catholicism (what I was raised in). Bethlehem or Nazareth? Does the Catholic church still teach literal transubstantiation? I JUST DON'T KNOW
 
2012-11-26 09:19:08 AM
Damn, I suck, only 28/32 correct.

/atheist
 
2012-11-26 09:19:43 AM

Cythraul: kid_icarus: Agnostic: 84%
Some of those were a little too easy...you don't have to be that versed in religion to know Jesus was born in Bethlehem. You'd just have to have visited America during the month of December.

Through that method, I also learned that baby Jesus, the shepherds, wise men, and so on, were all about 1/8th the size of normal people. And they were all surrounded by farm animals and straw.


Sometimes they were black, sometimes white...sometimes Disney characters. It's really hard to nail down their ethnicity.
 
2012-11-26 09:26:00 AM
I wouldn't call it conclusive. It seems that most people who are rooting for their religious team don't really want to know anything about the opposing groups. Head in the sand and whatnot.
 
2012-11-26 09:26:23 AM
My reaction to subby:

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-11-26 09:30:54 AM
31/32

Apathetic atheist, in that I don't give a fark if God exists. But I like being well informed for arguments.
 
2012-11-26 09:33:20 AM
In the end, your god is just as real as mine. I'm interested in your religious beliefs just as I'm interested in your culture; there's something to be learned, and I like to learn.

If you will, however, don't kill me because of our religious differences, thankyouverymuch, and I won't kill you. 

/don't judge me bro
 
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