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(Gizmodo)   The good news: Only some Samsung consumer products are built at child labor camps. The bad news: The rest of Samsung's consumer products are built at factories that make FoxxCon look like the Ritz   (gizmodo.com) divider line 44
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2012-11-26 08:11:52 AM  
STOP OVERCONSUMING YOU farkING MORONS

You want this shiat to stop? Stop demanding the lowest farking prices out there. Until you assholes curb back, this kind of bullshiat will continue on.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-26 09:51:50 AM  
So, we basically brought slavery back by off-shoring it.

We need to get rid of unions and minimum wage laws so we can have those working conditions here.
 
kab
2012-11-26 10:07:23 AM  
NO ONE CARES. SHINIES.
 
2012-11-26 10:13:35 AM  

cman: You want this shiat to stop?


Not particularly. I like my cheap shiny crap.
 
2012-11-26 10:14:07 AM  
Less impact because Samsung hasn't cultivated a consumer base of causeheads.

And what kab said, nobody farking cares. They say they do, but they've all got phones.
 
2012-11-26 10:14:54 AM  
Samsung lists "overtime hours in excess of local regulations, management of supplier companies holding copies of labor contracts, and the imposition of a system of fines for lateness or absences".

Sooo.... they hire American?

/ haha, just kidding, many of us don't have these regulations on the books to even violate here in America
 
2012-11-26 10:21:58 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: cman: You want this shiat to stop?

Not particularly. I like my cheap shiny crap.


Yay for inexpensive electronics. Lower labor costs is good for me.
Suck it libs.
 
2012-11-26 10:36:19 AM  
Noooo, I really like my SIII. I don't want an iPhone. Ratsnfratz.
 
2012-11-26 10:37:05 AM  
Oriental children are great for making this stuff..

There fingers as so small


Caucasians. They're too damn big ...........
 
2012-11-26 10:43:48 AM  
The thing that got my attention was when I heard of suicide nets.

It's like a 1950s Sci-Fi book predicting the future. No way would I thought we'd have this crap, now.
 
2012-11-26 10:45:23 AM  

vpb: So, we basically brought slavery back by off-shoring it.

We need to get rid of unions and minimum wage laws so we can have those working conditions here.


The problem lies with us. We encourage this kind of activity by demanding $200 Kindle Fire HD's so we can save money and buy more and more and more. We need to slow the fark down and stop over consuming.
 
2012-11-26 10:50:09 AM  
A Chinese Labor Watchdog? Inspecting a Korean company?

That sounds like a recipe for the truth.
 
2012-11-26 10:52:37 AM  
Was this story planted by Apple?
 
2012-11-26 11:02:21 AM  

cman: STOP OVERCONSUMING YOU farkING MORONS

You want this shiat to stop? Stop demanding the lowest farking prices out there. Until you assholes curb back, this kind of bullshiat will continue on.


Can you please define the line between "consuming" and "over-consuming"?
 
2012-11-26 11:02:54 AM  
those little gooks can build a damn fine phone. Extra rice for everybody today
 
2012-11-26 11:04:00 AM  

cman: vpb: So, we basically brought slavery back by off-shoring it.

We need to get rid of unions and minimum wage laws so we can have those working conditions here.

The problem lies with us. We encourage this kind of activity by demanding $200 Kindle Fire HD's so we can save money and buy more and more and more. We need to slow the fark down and stop over consuming.


Fair enough.

But I also think that we need to not stifle innovation by putting an emphasis on an upgrade path with existing offerings rather than tossing the baby out with the bathwater every nine months.

I'd gladly keep a phone or laptop for half a decade or more if I didn't find that it was almost totally unusable after two.
 
2012-11-26 11:10:41 AM  

Oliver Twisted:

Can you please define the line between "consuming" and "over-consuming"?


I think it was Dr Seuss who did that when he came up with thneeds.
 
2012-11-26 11:25:01 AM  
 
2012-11-26 11:38:27 AM  

Oliver Twisted: cman: STOP OVERCONSUMING YOU farkING MORONS

You want this shiat to stop? Stop demanding the lowest farking prices out there. Until you assholes curb back, this kind of bullshiat will continue on.

Can you please define the line between "consuming" and "over-consuming"?


Ask Somni-451.
 
2012-11-26 11:42:25 AM  

LadySusan: Noooo, I really like my SIII. I don't want an iPhone. Ratsnfratz.


Really? I found I had to change everything about it, from the toilet plop unlocking sounds to the yoga studio ringtones to almost every built-in program, including the browser that plays audio from unsolicited videos.
 
2012-11-26 11:43:41 AM  

Oliver Twisted: cman: STOP OVERCONSUMING YOU farkING MORONS

You want this shiat to stop? Stop demanding the lowest farking prices out there. Until you assholes curb back, this kind of bullshiat will continue on.

Can you please define the line between "consuming" and "over-consuming"?


Good question. Unfortunately, I do not believe that I have the proper expertise to define it. Instead I shall use a well known phrase to signify how I feel: I dont know how to define pornography, but I know it when I see it
 
2012-11-26 11:59:48 AM  

cman: vpb: So, we basically brought slavery back by off-shoring it.

We need to get rid of unions and minimum wage laws so we can have those working conditions here.

The problem lies with us. We encourage this kind of activity by demanding $200 Kindle Fire HD's so we can save money and buy more and more and more. We need to slow the fark down and stop over consuming.


How much profit are they making off that $200 Kindle?

Maybe enough they could pay their workers more.
 
2012-11-26 12:00:19 PM  

cman: Good question. Unfortunately, I do not believe that I have the proper expertise to define it.


You must be new to the internets.
 
2012-11-26 12:07:01 PM  

cman: vpb: So, we basically brought slavery back by off-shoring it.

We need to get rid of unions and minimum wage laws so we can have those working conditions here.

The problem lies with us. We encourage this kind of activity by demanding $200 Kindle Fire HD's so we can save money and buy more and more and more. We need to slow the fark down and stop over consuming.


I politely disagree. It's just the typical norm today of mega corporations always wanting more. They could sell the Kindle Fire HD for $200 and still give factory works a decent living wage, safe conditions and stop illegal acts (child labour, etc). And in Year 1 they might have done that but every year management needs to find ways to make more on the books and so begins the slippery slope of removing bonuses, overtime, paid vacations, health care, machine upgrades and repairs, and on and on until over overspills into people going nuts.

I do wholeheartedly agree about stopping the over consuming on principle.
 
2012-11-26 12:13:52 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: And what kab said, nobody farking cares. They say they do, but they've all got phones.


No, nobody does. It's also practically impossible to buy electronics and not encounter something that is morally ambiguous be it Foxconn, conflict minerals or child labour.

We boil it down to phones but the sad reality is I'm sure even my 'Tesco value' TV has something that has been touched by one of those three issues.
 
2012-11-26 12:16:10 PM  
Should've thrown Apple in the headline to generate more of a discussion/ad impressions/etc.
 
2012-11-26 12:20:17 PM  
 
2012-11-26 12:24:59 PM  
What's that? Samsung is taking over the pointless shiny things market? Well we better accuse them of doing what every single other manufacturer does and pretend it matters.
 
2012-11-26 01:09:09 PM  

cman: vpb: So, we basically brought slavery back by off-shoring it.

We need to get rid of unions and minimum wage laws so we can have those working conditions here.

The problem lies with us. We encourage this kind of activity by demanding $200 Kindle Fire HD's so we can save money and buy more and more and more. We need to slow the fark down and stop over consuming.


a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com
 
2012-11-26 01:17:52 PM  
As someone who just ordered a new Samsung monitor from Newegg, I'm...part of the problem. At least I'm part of the 1% regarding the rest of the world, even if I'm not the 1% here in the states.

/The poors brought it upon themselves
//By not being as awesome and deserving of greatness as I
 
2012-11-26 01:25:15 PM  

Skarekrough: cman: vpb: So, we basically brought slavery back by off-shoring it.

We need to get rid of unions and minimum wage laws so we can have those working conditions here.

The problem lies with us. We encourage this kind of activity by demanding $200 Kindle Fire HD's so we can save money and buy more and more and more. We need to slow the fark down and stop over consuming.

Fair enough.

But I also think that we need to not stifle innovation by putting an emphasis on an upgrade path with existing offerings rather than tossing the baby out with the bathwater every nine months.

I'd gladly keep a phone or laptop for half a decade or more if I didn't find that it was almost totally unusable after two.


the irony is the fast-pace of smartphone upgrades is what kept me from buying one for years, now that i have one i'd love for it to last another 4 years at least, i mean why is it that i had flip phones last 2-3x longer than the average person's smartphone?

the solution to all of this anyways is moving away from hardware as the selling point, at some point we'll reach a plateau of specs and form factor and at that point software will have to take up the mantle or else the smartphone market will implode like the DVD/TV market has
 
2012-11-26 01:42:22 PM  
*edit: also when you look at the smartphone market it's following the exact same path that the PC market did, maybe the situations play out differently but the little else is different, i'd be surprised if somebody hasn't done an economic study on why the PC market and the DVD/TV all suffering relatively similar fates and how the internet has a hand in all 3 hasn't been studied in more depth, and how the smartphone market will be just the 4th iteration of the same story
 
2012-11-26 01:51:13 PM  
Tomorrow's news...

Apple sues Samsung as they've got a patent out for slavery.



But seriously... if people could be happy with their devices for a while longer instead of having to junk it just so to have the latest and greatest thing out, demand would slow down and it might help this sort of thing go down.

But I guess that having to wait 2-3 seconds more for a device to load a webpage about puppies and cat captions is important and must be viewed now!
 
2012-11-26 03:10:54 PM  

imfallen_angel: But I guess that having to wait 2-3 seconds more for a device to load a webpage about puppies and cat captions is important and must be viewed now!


"I do know that, and I think that's really ironic, that nobody said 'well maybe the President had an influence on this violent behavior' Because that's not the way the media wants to take it and spin it, and turn it into fear, because then you're watching television, you're watching the news, you're being pumped full of fear, there's floods, there's AIDS, there's murder, cut to commercial, buy the Acura, buy the Colgate, if you have bad breath they're not going to talk to you, if you have pimples, the girl's not going to fark you, and it's just this campaign of fear, and consumption, and that's what I think it's all based on, the whole idea of 'keep everyone afraid, and they'll consume." - Marylin Manson, Bowling for Columbine.

It is drilled in to people from an early age that if you do not have the shiny then you are less of a person than someone who does. But now you can hold aloft your iSamsungJesusHTC phone and proudly show the world that you are indeed farkable.
 
kab
2012-11-26 03:36:07 PM  

PA_Mainy-Yak: Yay for inexpensive electronics. Lower labor costs is good for me.
Suck it libs.



Rest assured, you're still paying a very hefty markup for your gadgets. The money is just going into the wrong pockets.
 
2012-11-26 03:38:26 PM  
I hope this NEVER stops.... it keeps items cheap to buy. and i have a friend from china that says there is no problem with them living that way until we come over and start shiat... its not our country.. leave it the fark alone
 
2012-11-26 04:00:51 PM  

cman: STOP OVERCONSUMING YOU farkING MORONS

You want this shiat to stop? Stop demanding the lowest farking prices out there. Until you assholes curb back, this kind of bullshiat will continue on.


I'm sure this post was written on a C-64. He doesn't even own a TV.
 
2012-11-26 04:59:57 PM  

MugzyBrown: cman: STOP OVERCONSUMING YOU farkING MORONS

You want this shiat to stop? Stop demanding the lowest farking prices out there. Until you assholes curb back, this kind of bullshiat will continue on.

I'm sure this post was written on a C-64. He doesn't even own a TV.


How the fark did you figure that out? There aint no other computer but the C-64 that is special enough for me
 
2012-11-26 05:05:02 PM  

cman: MugzyBrown: cman: STOP OVERCONSUMING YOU farkING MORONS

You want this shiat to stop? Stop demanding the lowest farking prices out there. Until you assholes curb back, this kind of bullshiat will continue on.

I'm sure this post was written on a C-64. He doesn't even own a TV.

How the fark did you figure that out? There aint no other computer but the C-64 that is special enough for me


If it wasn't for that crappy power connector there would probably lots more of them.
 
2012-11-26 06:38:02 PM  

Oliver Twisted: Can you please define the line between "consuming" and "over-consuming"?


Did you buy an iPhone 3G, 3GS, 4, 4S, and 5?

Then you're over-consuming.
 
2012-11-26 07:30:50 PM  
Overconsuming: Buying what you don't really need, that doesn't fill any role your existing shiat doesn't already do.
 
2012-11-26 08:05:23 PM  

Nintenfreak: Overconsuming: Buying what you don't really need, that doesn't fill any role your existing shiat doesn't already do.


I'm an even more horrible American. I buy shiat that I can repair.
 
2012-11-27 12:42:06 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: Nintenfreak: Overconsuming: Buying what you don't really need, that doesn't fill any role your existing shiat doesn't already do.

I'm an even more horrible American. I buy shiat that I can repair.


Oh you're good. I bow to the master.
 
2012-11-28 11:05:22 AM  

BullBearMS: TFA doesn't even mention the really bad stuff:

China Labor Watch, released a report today detailing its investigations into eight factories in China, six of which were directly operated by Samsung, two of which made products for the electronics company but were run by suppliers.

Among the abuses found by China Labor Watch (CLW) at the factories were staff being "forced" to work 100 hours of overtime a month, unpaid hours and unsafe conditions.

The report says that workers at the eight factories also have to endure "standing for 11 to 12 hours while working, underage workers, severe age and gender discrimination, abuse of student and labor dispatch workers, a lack of worker safety, and verbal and physical abuse."

Beating your child laborers? Stay classy, Samsung.


Apple has come under fire for building a consumer electronics powerhouse on the backs of exploited workers, many of whom earn as little as 30p an hour. Employees of some suppliers complain of 10-hour shifts with only one permitted break, and of being forced to stand for so long that their legs swell. Last year, there were two fatal explosions at plants producing Apple goods, including one caused by the ignition of dust released by the polishing of new iPads.

Whatever you say.
 
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