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(Phys Org2)   Astronauts returning to earth's surface bring a totally unknown species with them. Doomsday preppers streaking off into the countryside in their 4x4s, but me, I'm staying here and becoming a human alien hybrid. Hopefully evil, with psionic powers   (phys.org) divider line 43
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2012-11-26 12:57:39 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-26 01:20:44 AM
Hope they didn't get them in their hair.
 
2012-11-26 04:41:15 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com

Bring it on, subby. Bring it on.
 
2012-11-26 09:15:51 AM
Human-alien hybrid, eh?

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-26 10:26:10 AM
Crab People.
 
2012-11-26 11:13:24 AM
Came for the Species reference.
 
2012-11-26 11:18:05 AM

Relatively Obscure: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 196x286]

Bring it on, subby. Bring it on.


i.qkme.me
 
2012-11-26 11:19:21 AM
Looks like its about 4-5 feet long. Imagine those lice with you in a space suit. Imagine pubic area.
 
2012-11-26 11:21:02 AM
Mathilda May clones would be acceptable.
 
2012-11-26 11:27:22 AM

RoyBatty: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x247]


Winner!
 
2012-11-26 11:29:00 AM
As long as it doesn't create this monstrosity:

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-26 11:30:04 AM

PsyLord: Came for the Species reference.


Same here. Repeatedly.
 
2012-11-26 11:34:33 AM
RTFA, but I won't spoil everyone's space alien panic.
 
2012-11-26 11:47:59 AM
So - has anyone been playing the new XCom? I kinda like it, I guess. They took out a lot of the repetition in the missions, but also took out a lot of the complexity in between-mission planning. The campaign seems a lot shorter.
 
2012-11-26 11:55:17 AM

RoyBatty: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x247]


Please pass the 'Squeeze'.
 
2012-11-26 11:56:16 AM
Did anybody know that while most crustaceans such as crabs, shrimps and lobsters live in water while woodlice are the only group that have fully adapted to life on land?
 
2012-11-26 12:23:25 PM

almandot: Did anybody know that while most crustaceans such as crabs, shrimps and lobsters live in water while woodlice are the only group that have fully adapted to life on land?


Yup. Since reading the article.
 
2012-11-26 12:36:22 PM
what's the point of having psionic powers if you aren't evil?
 
2012-11-26 12:40:40 PM

Relatively Obscure: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 196x286]

Bring it on, subby. Bring it on.


Which faction is subby going to join?

i.imgur.com

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[ Unit Brainsucked: Parthenogenetic ]
 
2012-11-26 12:52:38 PM

almandot: Did anybody know that while most crustaceans such as crabs, shrimps and lobsters live in water while woodlice are the only group that have fully adapted to life on land?


Woo hoo! Yet another opportunity for me to post Cymothoa exigua, the tongue eating isopod! Don't click the link if you're squeamish or wish to remain blissfully ignorant of Nature's brutality.

Further evidence of Nature's greatest monster:

A short video

Blog with disturbing photo
 
2012-11-26 12:56:11 PM
Not sure I understand the article. Are they suggesting that caves on Earth are not on Earth?
 
2012-11-26 01:04:01 PM

RoyBatty: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x247]


Good thing we have a cold snap going on.

\\and I lost some hearing during those concerts in college.
\this episode really freaked me out as a kid.
 
2012-11-26 01:04:41 PM

hp6sa: So - has anyone been playing the new XCom? I kinda like it, I guess. They took out a lot of the repetition in the missions, but also took out a lot of the complexity in between-mission planning. The campaign seems a lot shorter.


Compared to the original, this incarnation is definitely dumbed down for the console masses.

Having said that, the reduction of complexity is not necessarily bad. The battlefield interface is an improvement. I wish the remake maintained the differing vulnerabilities to various damage types. (I kind of like dusting off the obsolete HWP laser to take down Sectopods.)

I liked the base and inventory management of the original, but somewhere in the mid-to-end game, all of that becomes rather annoying as you constantly have to track construction of satellite bases, production of laser cannons, make sure you transfer your armies of scientists and engineers so that they're in transit at the end of the month, etc.

Some of the appeal of the original is the steep learning curve, so that we can lord it over the feeble minded noobs who quit after two hours of playing because they couldn't figure out how to keep XCom financially solvent while maintaining a research program capable of supporting the needs of your field operatives.

I like the remake, but I'm not sure it will maintain the cult following that UFO Defense did.
 
2012-11-26 01:31:00 PM

axeeugene: Woo hoo! Yet another opportunity for me to post Cymothoa exigua, the tongue eating isopod! Don't click the link if you're squeamish or wish to remain blissfully ignorant of Nature's brutality.

Further evidence of Nature's greatest monster:

A short video

Blog with disturbing photo


Gee... Thanks. I should stop itching, shivering and checking every few seconds for creepy crawlies on my body around the time of my death. Feel free to just rock me to sleep for the rest of my life, you glorious bastard, you.
 
2012-11-26 01:37:31 PM
On it.

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Hey, aliens!:
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2012-11-26 02:04:18 PM
I wish Species had been a better film because the premise of basically sending DNA via radio is pretty clever. Perhaps more like a drug for curing a disease in pregnancy that creates a mutant species that slowly colonises the earth (like They Live) by being smarter or prettier.
 
2012-11-26 02:30:22 PM
DEVO
 
2012-11-26 02:39:40 PM
Dear Preppers,
It's a living hell out here, 100 times worse than predicted. Stay put, will send note when it's safe to come out.
nyseattitude
 
2012-11-26 03:43:20 PM

nyseattitude: Dear Preppers,
It's a living hell out here, 100 times worse than predicted. Stay put, will send note when it's safe to come out.
nyseattitude


I don't get the hate for "preppers". If they spend all that time and money getting ready for the worst, and nothing happens, they still have a ton of nifty skills and food, etc. Who cares?
 
2012-11-26 04:29:04 PM

dittybopper: I don't get the hate for "preppers". If they spend all that time and money getting ready for the worst, and nothing happens, they still have a ton of nifty skills and food, etc. Who cares?


Being prepared is a good thing, but the "preppers" mentality seems to attract a peculiar mix of crazy and incompetence. Formerly mostly harmless nuts become armed nuts paranoid that everyone is out to get their survival hoard.

Incompetence and survivalistic paranoia make for a dangerous combination to themselves and, unfortunately, to the rest of us as well.
 
2012-11-26 04:49:21 PM
Subby?

i867.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-26 08:05:25 PM
Right, it's a "new" species, it's never been observed out of the water, but they "know" it evolved to live out of the water, then re-evolved to live back in it? Yeah, that's a lot more likely than it just stayed living in the water in the caves. Why is there so much baseless speculation in "science" these days?
 
2012-11-26 09:28:27 PM
Funny, I just watched The Bay, and this has never been so current.
 
2012-11-26 09:32:08 PM

untaken_name: Right, it's a "new" species, it's never been observed out of the water, but they "know" it evolved to live out of the water, then re-evolved to live back in it? Yeah, that's a lot more likely than it just stayed living in the water in the caves. Why is there so much baseless speculation in "science" these days?


I'm going to assume you aren't serious.
 
2012-11-26 10:05:03 PM

Relatively Obscure: untaken_name: Right, it's a "new" species, it's never been observed out of the water, but they "know" it evolved to live out of the water, then re-evolved to live back in it? Yeah, that's a lot more likely than it just stayed living in the water in the caves. Why is there so much baseless speculation in "science" these days?

I'm going to assume you aren't serious.


See? This is what I'm talking about, right here. You're making decisions with no grounding in reality whatsoever. You probably think of yourself as having a "scientific" bent, too. But I'm not going to assume you do, because I don't make assumptions.
 
2012-11-26 10:25:48 PM

untaken_name: Relatively Obscure: untaken_name: Right, it's a "new" species, it's never been observed out of the water, but they "know" it evolved to live out of the water, then re-evolved to live back in it? Yeah, that's a lot more likely than it just stayed living in the water in the caves. Why is there so much baseless speculation in "science" these days?

I'm going to assume you aren't serious.

See? This is what I'm talking about, right here. You're making decisions with no grounding in reality whatsoever. You probably think of yourself as having a "scientific" bent, too. But I'm not going to assume you do, because I don't make assumptions.


Oh good. I was right.
 
2012-11-26 11:39:36 PM

Relatively Obscure: untaken_name: Relatively Obscure: untaken_name: Right, it's a "new" species, it's never been observed out of the water, but they "know" it evolved to live out of the water, then re-evolved to live back in it? Yeah, that's a lot more likely than it just stayed living in the water in the caves. Why is there so much baseless speculation in "science" these days?

I'm going to assume you aren't serious.

See? This is what I'm talking about, right here. You're making decisions with no grounding in reality whatsoever. You probably think of yourself as having a "scientific" bent, too. But I'm not going to assume you do, because I don't make assumptions.

Oh good. I was right.


Good luck proving it in the lab.
 
2012-11-27 03:34:44 AM

untaken_name: Right, it's a "new" species, it's never been observed out of the water, but they "know" it evolved to live out of the water, then re-evolved to live back in it? Yeah, that's a lot more likely than it just stayed living in the water in the caves. Why is there so much baseless speculation in "science" these days?


Is your issue that they say the woodlice is the only known isopod to have evolved to live fully on land, or that the apparent aquatic version of the woodlice is suggested to have evolved from the terrestrial one? Terrestrial isopod evolution is well documented and you can easily find papers on the various structures that were needed to adapt to living on land and how they observed those changes from aquatic, to semi-terrestrial, to fully terrestrial forms. Now if this new species of aquatic woodlice has land evolved structures and organs as the common woodlice that are now being adapted for aquatic life, it used to live on land. If it's missing those features they would have to check the fossil record for the lowest order of isopod with those same features to see where and when this new species diverged and co-evolved. Co-evolution would be unlikely as the woodlice isn't as well adapted to swim as it's ancestral isopods, making it unlikely to evolve into a less efficient swimmer by nature of natural selection.

What you're calling baseless speculation is what "science" calls logic.
 
2012-11-27 04:14:36 AM

sat1va: What you're calling baseless speculation is what "science" calls logic.


Science is about what is repeatable and testable, not what is logical. Often times, logic can be useful to scientists. However, testable predictions and repeatable results are science. Arguments constructed logically are philosophy, not science. There is nothing wrong with either logic or philosophy, of course. They are just separate from science. "Science", at its root, means "knowledge". Not guesses. Not even good guesses. Not even logical guesses. Is it "logical" that water, at sea level, boils at 212 degrees F? It's certainly testable and repeatable. Is it "logical" that a bowling ball and a feather will, in vacuum, fall at the same rate? It's testable and repeatable. That's why science and logic are not synonymous. Appealing to Logos is a rhetorical device, not a scientific one. Ah, who am I kidding? Nobody cares what words mean any more.
 
2012-11-27 06:32:26 AM
Anybody that might be a competent 'prepper' would never go on that show because it basically puts a bullseye on you and yours should the beginning stages of anarchy actually occur. Why spend all that time, effort and money on getting set up for the end of the world when you can just bring your local motorcycle club and overwhelm the people that did?

/blue van
 
2012-11-27 09:19:50 AM

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: dittybopper: I don't get the hate for "preppers". If they spend all that time and money getting ready for the worst, and nothing happens, they still have a ton of nifty skills and food, etc. Who cares?

Being prepared is a good thing, but the "preppers" mentality seems to attract a peculiar mix of crazy and incompetence. Formerly mostly harmless nuts become armed nuts paranoid that everyone is out to get their survival hoard.

Incompetence and survivalistic paranoia make for a dangerous combination to themselves and, unfortunately, to the rest of us as well.


Meh. "OMG, someone has something more dangerous than a foam ball, AHHHHHHHH!".

My cannon, let me show it to you.

/Yes, I have working artillery.
 
2012-11-27 01:43:36 PM

dittybopper: Meh. "OMG, someone has something more dangerous than a foam ball, AHHHHHHHH!".

My cannon, let me show it to you.

/Yes, I have working artillery.


You need more coffee, Ditty. I'm not used to seeing your posts miss the point entirely like that.

Preppers give gun owners and anyone who prepares for disasters in less incompetent, less crazy ways a bad name. Whether it's the guy in the video I linked to who shoots his own thumb off while on the show because he has zero competence about gun safety (I wouldn't want to be on a range with him around and hope he remains the only victim of his accidents) or the others featured on the preppers show, examples include the hippie sex cult leader in the silo (with strange undertones of threatened violence against his neighbors), the walking Ted Nugent parody digging spider holes in public parks and the middle of forest access roads (only matter of time before someone falls or drives into one), et al.

These folks are no longer just being harmlessly nuts on their own, being merely annoying by spamming everyone with photos of their canned food stockpiles, flint knapping attempts, bug out bags, etc; their prepper mentality has made them seek out tools that misused will harm others and they aren't showing rationality enough to learn how to not misuse them. Incompetence and crazy is one thing, incompetence and crazy with the means to harm others and tainted with paranoia is something entirely different. That's the kind of prepper I suspect most here rail against; not the smart person keeping extra food and water ready in the closet (or the old hunting rifle locked up in the gun cabinet, just in case) in case a storm or something else disrupts things for awhile.

/Own guns, but that doesn't define me.
//Don't tie self-worth to caliber either
 
2012-11-27 10:04:14 PM

untaken_name: sat1va: What you're calling baseless speculation is what "science" calls logic.

Science is about what is repeatable and testable, not what is logical. Often times, logic can be useful to scientists. However, testable predictions and repeatable results are science. Arguments constructed logically are philosophy, not science. There is nothing wrong with either logic or philosophy, of course. They are just separate from science. "Science", at its root, means "knowledge". Not guesses. Not even good guesses. Not even logical guesses. Is it "logical" that water, at sea level, boils at 212 degrees F? It's certainly testable and repeatable. Is it "logical" that a bowling ball and a feather will, in vacuum, fall at the same rate? It's testable and repeatable. That's why science and logic are not synonymous. Appealing to Logos is a rhetorical device, not a scientific one. Ah, who am I kidding? Nobody cares what words mean any more.


Nobody said logic and science were synonymous, you instead claimed a logical conclusion using scientific principles was "baseless speculation." Logic is fundamental to science. Without it there were be no theories. One must use logic when using a theory to make predictions, or else you would always be in a state of requiring empirical evidence to make a conclusion. Galileo had to use logic to predict a hammer and a feather would fall at the same speed in a vacuum, and the concept of a vacuum was not even empirically demonstrated until after his death (and finally properly observed 400 years later on the moon). Newton had to use logic to make predictions of escape velocities that would not be testable for another 300 years until Sputnik was launched into orbit. Without logic, chemistry would still be alchemy, medicine would still be witchcraft, astronomy would still be astrology, and just about every other area of science would be left to religion. The theory of evolution is a scientific theory that has been shown to be predictive and testable across chemistry, biology, and geology. The scientists used logic to make the conclusion that the aquatic woodlouse was a descendant of the common woodlouse, which was a descendant of lower order aquatic isopods. Scientific theories are essentially logical arguments much like the PHI101 class where you learned about premises and conclusions; however, in a scientific theory the premises and conclusions are demonstrated to be true empirically and then applied to future predictions through deductive reasoning. You don't agree, but you don't appear to be a student of science so I'll cut you some slack. In science you must use logic to make any conclusion outside of direct experimentation, in philosophy you can use logic to argue that your dog named Jupiter is a planet.
 
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