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6026 clicks; posted to Main » on 25 Nov 2012 at 9:38 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-11-25 11:22:25 PM  
3 votes:

Confabulat: hundreddollarman: But after that, you start worrying you'll go batshiat insane because then you start worrying about money. Like constant, overwhelming dread about money

Yep. It's hard to sleep well knowing you may be evicted in the AM.

hundreddollarman: You start thinking of yourself as an outcast. You avoid your friends because you feel like they pity you or are judging you for being unemployed.

I have friends who DO judge me when I'm unemployed. Good friends. They suddenly hate me or something.

hundreddollarman: And you get frustrated when it feels like your job-search efforts seem to be going nowhere

God that can be the worst. It's hard not to get discouraged when you send out ten resumes a day, every day for weeks, and never even get a phone call in return. The only jobs I've gotten in a decade worth spit I got because of people I knew. Sending out resumes for jobs feels exactly the same as dumping them out the window.


AAARRRGGGGHH..

Doing the resume thingy right now, and that pisses me off NO END. Long lists of people claiming they're looking for workers or whatever...and you can't even get an autoresponder saying they got your resume? WTF? Not even a "we got your resume but won't be calling you back unless we're interested"??

Then these same bosses are harping on about how arrogant or entitled job seekers act sometimes. Well, when employers attitude is "We're not really hiring, we're just gathering a 'pool' of potential employees and we'll call you someday if anything opens up" what did you expect? Imagine if my attitude was "I'm not really looking for work, I'm just gathering a pool of offers, and I'll call you someday if I feel like working. Keep the offer open, though." You'd be pissy too.

/sorry, rant off.
2012-11-25 11:03:49 PM  
2 votes:

hundreddollarman: But after that, you start worrying you'll go batshiat insane because then you start worrying about money. Like constant, overwhelming dread about money


Yep. It's hard to sleep well knowing you may be evicted in the AM.

hundreddollarman: You start thinking of yourself as an outcast. You avoid your friends because you feel like they pity you or are judging you for being unemployed.


I have friends who DO judge me when I'm unemployed. Good friends. They suddenly hate me or something.

hundreddollarman: And you get frustrated when it feels like your job-search efforts seem to be going nowhere


God that can be the worst. It's hard not to get discouraged when you send out ten resumes a day, every day for weeks, and never even get a phone call in return. The only jobs I've gotten in a decade worth spit I got because of people I knew. Sending out resumes for jobs feels exactly the same as dumping them out the window.
2012-11-25 10:52:08 PM  
2 votes:
Being unemployed takes a tremendous toll on you, both physically and mentally.

I just got back to work after spending the last six months out of work due to a layoff. It's great the first few months because you've got all that free time to maybe spend more time with friends/family or to pursue interests and projects you've been meaning to but couldn't because of time. I took some time to travel and visit some friends I haven't seen in a while. I read more. I took up running. I started taking classes at my community college.

But after that, you start worrying you'll go batshiat insane because then you start worrying about money. Like constant, overwhelming dread about money. You start feeling jealous of your friends who are still working. That jealousy starts to eat at you. You start thinking of yourself as an outcast. You avoid your friends because you feel like they pity you or are judging you for being unemployed. Then you start feeling angry that you're being left out while the world passes you by. And you get frustrated when it feels like your job-search efforts seem to be going nowhere.

It's really scary how alone and angry you can feel. You've seen some extreme cases, where a person just goes out and starts shooting shiat up. That kind of constant stress you feel if you've been unemployed for a while can change a person. Some people crumble, and lash out at the world. Some people find the will to hang on and come out on the other side OK.
2012-11-25 10:30:26 PM  
2 votes:

MrBreakIt: I've been unemployed since April 26th. This has been the first time I've been truly unemployed with little to no support network. The unemployment I receive barely covers the bills and "good meals" are far and few between. Any time I get sick, I find a source of Vitamin C and hope to get better rather than worse because I can't afford to go to urgent care.

shiat sucks. I've been putting out two applications a week since I was let go and have yet to so much as have a call back.


I am sure you qualify for food stamps (or EBT card or whatever it's called these days). You may still struggle to pay rent and keep the lights on, but there's no reason not to eat well.
2012-11-25 10:16:55 PM  
2 votes:

ltdanman44: Study: Having a Bad Job Is Worse than No Job For Mental Health

What kind of study is this? It's like choosing between eating your shiat or someone else's shiat. Both taste pretty much the same.

Your mental health would prolly be the last of your worries if you were in that situation


You might think so, but based on my own anecdotal experience, you might be wrong.

I've had truly wretched jobs with awful bosses and hideous hours (it was a graveyard shift, I was the shift manager, and my boss micromanaged EVERYTHING, plus I had to deal with so-called "workers" who only showed up if they felt like it), and after six months I had to quit. My depression was really spiraling out of control. Quitting was probably the best thing I could have done at that point--I felt instantly better, although financially I really needed the work.

I would say, however, that the job has to be a) really crappy and b) totally uncorrectable by any other means, before no job is better than a bad job.
2012-11-25 10:02:13 PM  
2 votes:
No, stress is bad for your health. And usually, unemployment is stressful.
2012-11-25 10:00:03 PM  
2 votes:
Well if you can't buy healthy fresh food you're practically screwed, and if you can't pay for medicine or hospital bills you're left to count on your own natural defenses. Being poor is just as bad as being near death.
2012-11-25 09:46:14 PM  
2 votes:
I dunno, the three months I was laid off were the best three months I'd had for years. Of course, when you've worked the graveyard shift with Wednesday and Thursday off, for several years, suddenly being awake during the daylight hours with weekends off will do wonders for your mental well-being.
2012-11-25 09:44:08 PM  
2 votes:
35% higher? I think that is a higher risk than what smokers have. We should tax unemployment immediately like we do cigarettes.
2012-11-25 09:40:44 PM  
2 votes:
In breaking news, being poor sucks.
2012-11-25 11:21:53 PM  
1 vote:

sonorangal: Advice I can give is don't isolate yourself, Get out there and network even if it is uncomfortable and sometimes in applying for some jobs persistence pays off


God this is sadly so true. I hate people and avoid them mostly, but sometimes you need a friend. Unemployment is that time, more so than when you're grieving. Friends won't bring your loved ones back, but they might get you a paycheck.
2012-11-25 10:56:49 PM  
1 vote:
I disagree. In the late 80's my climbing, skiing and cycling skills as well as my fitness went through the roof.... miss the stint on the UI ski team.....

/for you US folks, UI was our old unemployment insurance system here in Canukistan....work 22 weeks at a seasonal gig.... ski and climb for a year....good times....
2012-11-25 10:52:45 PM  
1 vote:
I can tell you for sure that long term unemployment is bad for you. I left a damn good job (government contract) 3 years ago because my contract term was up, and the company's contract was nearing it's end as well. I had not one, but two jobs lined up for the next FY with contacts I had made at the previous position.

The next fiscal year came around, and the funding had dried up for not one, but both positions, along with the one I had occupied previously. I was still on the hook for child support at my old income level though. For every 60 or so applications I'd put in every week while on unemployment, I'd get maybe one call back. Mabye. Then unemployment ran out. It hasn't really gotten any better, either for me or the people I used to work with. I know if I look at a picture of me now, versus three years ago, I look a hell of a lot older. I've probably aged 15 years in the past three.

/Back in school now, STEM
//Whole other ball of stress there.
2012-11-25 10:44:05 PM  
1 vote:

Mangoose: It's not being unemployed that's bad for your health, it's having to by cheap, shiatty food and all that time to drink during the morning that's bad for your health.


I, uh... I think I may have been unemployed for the last 6 years, despite showing up for work and collecting a paycheck
2012-11-25 10:28:06 PM  
1 vote:

sonorangal: Mangoose: It's not being unemployed that's bad for your health, it's having to by cheap, shiatty food and all that time to drink during the morning that's bad for your health.

I was unemployed for a period of time while finishing up my college degree. Actually, I ate healthier because I cooked at home and was able to exercise for free by walking or biking on the trail near my home. I miss having some of the free time but need the money now.


Unemployment with absolutely nothing on the horizon is a bit different.

MrBreakIt: I've been unemployed since April 26th. This has been the first time I've been truly unemployed with little to no support network. The unemployment I receive barely covers the bills and "good meals" are far and few between. Any time I get sick, I find a source of Vitamin C and hope to get better rather than worse because I can't afford to go to urgent care.

shiat sucks. I've been putting out two applications a week since I was let go and have yet to so much as have a call back.


Seriously, best of luck to you. Keep trying. But try to keep up the Vitamin C (and healthy a diet as you can, hey, I learned how to cook dried beans and lentils *really* well when I was in your situation) all the time, not just when you're sick. That sort of thing works better at preventing than curing.

And if you can try to volunteer somewhere. It helps, plus you might make a connection that'll lead to a job. At the very least you can point to something you accomplished when you get an interview.

Take care.
2012-11-25 10:26:44 PM  
1 vote:
I agree sudden job loss is stressful; I imagine if you're used to cyclical unemployment though it's less of a stresser since in theory you'd have time to save money for it. During the time I didn't have to worry too much about money, I was indeed healthier and happier. Then I ran out of money and had to take another shiatty job which stressed me out a lot. Now I stress myself out even more by being self employed and worrying about paying bills constantly.
2012-11-25 10:26:08 PM  
1 vote:
Why even publish this article? You might as well say, 'Shiat happens, deal with it.'

Here's my own study: Scientists confirmed that the older you get the higher your chance of dying. There's been no exact cause for this phenomenon, but they say it may be because of a lack of oxygen supplied to your heart or brain. We just don't know. More studies are needed.

These articles do not inform anyone of anything they don't already now and only serve to scare people.
2012-11-25 10:24:43 PM  
1 vote:

Gyrfalcon: PacManDreaming: I dunno, the three months I was laid off were the best three months I'd had for years. Of course, when you've worked the graveyard shift with Wednesday and Thursday off, for several years, suddenly being awake during the daylight hours with weekends off will do wonders for your mental well-being.

I worked that same shift. I think seeing the sunlight again put ten years back on my life expectancy.


I got fired about a month ago from the same shift after years. It's a bit weird seeing the sun and not thinking I should be in bed.
2012-11-25 10:22:34 PM  
1 vote:
The last time I was unemployed I spent 4 straight months drinking, wanking and laying in the hammock all day.

I'm surprised I lived through it at all.
gja
2012-11-25 10:16:46 PM  
1 vote:
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Captain Obvious says "No shiat Sherlock"
2012-11-25 10:09:04 PM  
1 vote:
Take up running - its free and you'll feel better while losing weight. Stress and heart attacks avoided...
2012-11-25 10:08:55 PM  
1 vote:
I've been unemployed since April 26th. This has been the first time I've been truly unemployed with little to no support network. The unemployment I receive barely covers the bills and "good meals" are far and few between. Any time I get sick, I find a source of Vitamin C and hope to get better rather than worse because I can't afford to go to urgent care.

shiat sucks. I've been putting out two applications a week since I was let go and have yet to so much as have a call back.
2012-11-25 10:02:49 PM  
1 vote:

PacManDreaming: I dunno, the three months I was laid off were the best three months I'd had for years. Of course, when you've worked the graveyard shift with Wednesday and Thursday off, for several years, suddenly being awake during the daylight hours with weekends off will do wonders for your mental well-being.


I worked that same shift. I think seeing the sunlight again put ten years back on my life expectancy.
2012-11-25 09:58:32 PM  
1 vote:
I'm frequently unemployed due to what I do for a living. After every job ands, there is a period of one day to up to a couple weeks, where I am technically "unemployed". These past two months though have felt vastly different and I can attest to the fact that it's had and effect on my mental health at the very least, as well as my physical health. Everyday that goes by where I am unsuccessful at securing work, even though I know my business is going through a very slow period right now, is a another day that puts me into a deep depression. And yes, having to buy cheaper food which leads to less than stellar quality, isn't helping. I've finally been able to get out of the house and help a friend in her business, which seems to be booming at the moment, but it's not what I normally do, and in the end the money isn't near enough for me to live off of. But I can tell you the difference it's made in my self esteem, I feel useful again and like I can weather the slow period until it turns around.

I'm however, not surprised that people who are unemployed have a 35% higher risk of having a heart attack. There have certainly been days in the past two months, where I felt that I wasn't going to last too much longer without something physical happening. Heart attack or just being hospitalized from the stress of it.
2012-11-25 09:44:26 PM  
1 vote:
At least it's not in Greenland.
Don't want to go back to that.
2012-11-25 09:00:52 PM  
1 vote:
It's not being unemployed that's bad for your health, it's having to by cheap, shiatty food and all that time to drink during the morning that's bad for your health.
 
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