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(TG Daily)   The US Army wants to develop electromagnetic pulse hand grenades. What could possibly go wrong?   (tgdaily.com) divider line 94
    More: Obvious, electromagnetic pulses, US Army, EMP, homemade bomb, RPGs  
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2012-11-25 04:22:38 PM  
Setting off all sorts of bombs, including your own, electrocution, frying all electronics in the field of effect, including ones you don't want fried like civilian infrastructure, cars telephones, insulin pumps and pacemakers.
 
2012-11-25 04:29:28 PM  
Yeah, sure, but once Skynet sics the terminators on us, EMP grenades will be damned useful.
 
2012-11-25 04:47:46 PM  
When was the last time the US went to war with a tech enabled for?
 
2012-11-25 04:49:53 PM  
Foe, not for.
 
2012-11-25 04:50:41 PM  
www.gamesprays.com
 
2012-11-25 05:44:53 PM  

gaslight: Setting off all sorts of bombs, including your own, electrocution, frying all electronics in the field of effect, including ones you don't want fried like civilian infrastructure, cars telephones, insulin pumps and pacemakers.


You forgot creating mutants. Mutants with horrifying and unknown powers.
 
2012-11-25 05:56:13 PM  
Welcome back to the Cold War folks.
 
2012-11-25 08:39:44 PM  
I'm sure they will come in handy for taking out sentry bots in abandoned underground military facilities in both the DC area and the Mojave desert, some 200 years after the nuclear war with the Chinese.
 
2012-11-25 08:44:22 PM  
www.polyvore.com
 
2012-11-25 08:44:32 PM  
Step 1) Find data center for major banks and the IRS
Step 2) Set off EMP bombs
Step 3) Enjoy the chaos as ownership records disappear
 
2012-11-25 08:47:32 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: Step 1) Find data center for major banks and the IRS
Step 2) Set off EMP bombs
Step 3) Enjoy the chaos as ownership records disappear


Offsite backups, how the hell do they work?
 
2012-11-25 09:06:17 PM  
i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-25 09:36:07 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: Step 1) Find data center for major banks and the IRS
Step 2) Set off EMP bombs
Step 3) Enjoy the chaos as ownership records disappear


i105.photobucket.com

What Arthur Jumbles might look like.
 
2012-11-25 10:03:41 PM  

doglover: Arthur Jumbles: Step 1) Find data center for major banks and the IRS
Step 2) Set off EMP bombs
Step 3) Enjoy the chaos as ownership records disappear

Offsite backups, how the hell do they work?


Indeed
 
2012-11-25 10:36:41 PM  
You can bet your ass the Russians and the Chinese are already working on them.
 
2012-11-25 10:46:37 PM  
Seems like something that should have already been invented.
 
2012-11-25 10:46:49 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: Step 1) Find data center for major banks and the IRS
Step 2) Set off EMP bombs
Step 3) Enjoy the chaos as ownership records disappear


What-everrr, Mr. Durden!

But seriously, this is good news... for electric cars.

An EMP of any useful size would require a LOT of stored juice. If they can get the kind of power density to make it grenade-sized... Good news, everybody, we have 300 mile range EVs that you can drive in the winter.
 
2012-11-25 10:48:30 PM  

doglover: Arthur Jumbles: Step 1) Find data center for major banks and the IRS
Step 2) Set off EMP bombs
Step 3) Enjoy the chaos as ownership records disappear

Offsite backups, how the hell do they work?


I used to work for one of the larger storage companies. We were asked for an estimate to create disaster recovery / business continuity capabilities for a major oil company, at the time they kept everything onsite. They were interested in synchronous data replication, offsite backups, that sort of thing. We told them the price, they declined. While I'm sure they finally got their stuff taken care of, there was a time about ten years ago when anyone with a home built EMP could have shut them down.
 
2012-11-25 10:50:02 PM  
i16.photobucket.com

Do they look something like this? 


/Diabolical
 
2012-11-25 10:51:29 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: Step 1) Find data center for major banks and the IRS
Step 2) Set off EMP bombs
Step 3) Enjoy the chaos as ownership records disappear


Great. Now Hollywood is gonna remake Wisdom.
 
2012-11-25 10:52:02 PM  

Mister Peejay: Arthur Jumbles: Step 1) Find data center for major banks and the IRS
Step 2) Set off EMP bombs
Step 3) Enjoy the chaos as ownership records disappear

What-everrr, Mr. Durden!

But seriously, this is good news... for electric cars.

An EMP of any useful size would require a LOT of stored juice. If they can get the kind of power density to make it grenade-sized... Good news, everybody, we have 300 mile range EVs that you can drive in the winter.


Shot down in flames by Top Gear and the NTSA:

Lithium-Ion batteries suck in cold, and take more energy to get up to working temperature than they put out at peak operating capacity. Hydrogen, without parallel is where we're going. Hydrogen-hybrid, actually. Ford, Honda and Toyota have already announced that they're going to have models available by 2025.
 
2012-11-25 10:52:14 PM  
Well, we are going to need them to counter any chinese development of powered armor.
 
2012-11-25 10:54:42 PM  

timujin: doglover: Arthur Jumbles: Step 1) Find data center for major banks and the IRS
Step 2) Set off EMP bombs
Step 3) Enjoy the chaos as ownership records disappear

Offsite backups, how the hell do they work?

I used to work for one of the larger storage companies. We were asked for an estimate to create disaster recovery / business continuity capabilities for a major oil company, at the time they kept everything onsite. They were interested in synchronous data replication, offsite backups, that sort of thing. We told them the price, they declined. While I'm sure they finally got their stuff taken care of, there was a time about ten years ago when anyone with a home built EMP could have shut them down.


10 years ago the internet was a different beast.
 
2012-11-25 10:54:52 PM  

Mister Peejay: Arthur Jumbles: Step 1) Find data center for major banks and the IRS
Step 2) Set off EMP bombs
Step 3) Enjoy the chaos as ownership records disappear

What-everrr, Mr. Durden!

But seriously, this is good news... for electric cars.

An EMP of any useful size would require a LOT of stored juice. If they can get the kind of power density to make it grenade-sized... Good news, everybody, we have 300 mile range EVs that you can drive in the winter.


I'm guessing that the DoD is looking for something closer to an Explosively Pumped Flux Compression Generator. Yes, I just used those words. No, they're not from Back To The Future.
 
2012-11-25 10:56:30 PM  

mamoru: I'm sure they will come in handy for taking out sentry bots in abandoned underground military facilities in both the DC area and the Mojave desert, some 200 years after the nuclear war with the Chinese.


Or you could get a dog.
 
2012-11-25 11:05:11 PM  
Next they'll be wanting a sticky grenade and you'll have n00bs everywhere going for that combo.
 
2012-11-25 11:07:02 PM  
What could possibly go wrong?

They might blow up?
 
2012-11-25 11:08:27 PM  

Jedekai: Shot down in flames by Top Gear and the NTSA:


I love Top Gear more than pretty much anyone should I have every episode and have watched most of them at least 3 times.

That said... Clarkson hates electric cars and has always been unfair to them. I've driven electric cars (and driven them hard) and gotten more or less the range I was told to expect.

I'll trust them on just about anything review wise... but not on electrics.

/Oh, and Jezza's review of the RX-8 pissed me off too. Talks about how great it is and best car of the year and blah blah.. then he melts the damned tires on it, and proceeds to drive it home in the rain and complains that it's squirrelly in the rain. Well.. DUH. You burned off the damned treads making the film.
 
2012-11-25 11:08:34 PM  
Triple damage versus mechs and robots.
 
2012-11-25 11:11:32 PM  

2wolves: When was the last time the US went to war with a tech enabled for?


Im guessing when these:

www.bhcso.org

+

www.ruwenzori.net

Started to equal:

www.featurepics.com

farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2012-11-25 11:12:22 PM  
TFA: To be sure, a non-explosive grenade could use "pulse compression" to blast a very short but fierce electrical pulse while compressing intellectual current

Ah. Kinda like a fark religion thread.
 
2012-11-25 11:13:18 PM  
venturefans.org
 
2012-11-25 11:17:17 PM  

reddfrogg: [i16.photobucket.com image 513x288]

Do they look something like this? 


/Diabolical


1.bp.blogspot.com
Get out of my head!
 
2012-11-25 11:17:43 PM  
I'm still waiting for my BFG 9000.
 
2012-11-25 11:20:46 PM  

skinink: I'm still waiting for my BFG 9000.


Hitler had one more like the Quake II "BIG Gun"

Saddam also.

Moral of the story: Railway guns suck.
 
2012-11-25 11:20:53 PM  

gaslight: Setting off all sorts of bombs, including your own, electrocution, frying all electronics in the field of effect, including ones you don't want fried like civilian infrastructure, cars telephones, insulin pumps and pacemakers.


Test them over there so they cops can use them over here in 10 years.
 
2012-11-25 11:21:24 PM  

Fubini:
I'm guessing that the DoD is looking for something closer to an Explosively Pumped Flux Compression Generator. Yes, I just used those words. No, they're not from Back To The Future.


Yeah, it'll pretty much have to be. But man, something hand held - gonna be rough.
 
2012-11-25 11:22:41 PM  

doglover: skinink: I'm still waiting for my BFG 9000.

Hitler had one more like the Quake II "BIG Gun"

Saddam also.

Moral of the story: Railway guns suck.

 

i1171.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-25 11:36:07 PM  
Frisbee shaped. Very fine copper wires, say an inch square, in a band around the nearly outer rim. the very outer rim is a ceramic band (non emp blocking) with an inch of c4, or a higher velocity explosive if you can find one. The interior is filled with aerogel capacitor material. The aerogel supercaps are amazing, if you havent played with one, a cubic centimeter has a capacity of one farad. Thats right, not any kind of MICRO farad. One cc, ONE FARAD. That is a lot of juice. Timer, set, pull the pin, fling the frisbee, on a timer the aerogel dumps the juice into the fine wires, a small explosive dumps the aerogel out of the disk, the c4 goes off, and the fine wires, running high amperage high voltage are already about to melt from the juice, find themselves going from a ring a foot across to an inch across.

Did the math once, for about 100 feet the emp is equivalent to being 10 miles from a nuke going off. Construction costs, really not that much more than a claymore mine, since mass producing that much of the aerogel would likely drive it's costs down.
 
2012-11-25 11:42:50 PM  

Jedekai:
Lithium-Ion batteries suck in cold, and take more energy to get up to working temperature than they put out at peak operating capacity.


Won't Global Warming solve that problem for us?
 
2012-11-25 11:54:32 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: doglover: skinink: I'm still waiting for my BFG 9000.

Hitler had one more like the Quake II "BIG Gun"

Saddam also.

Moral of the story: Railway guns suck. 

[i1171.photobucket.com image 440x276]


Not railgun, railway gun.

/biri-biri
 
2012-11-26 12:00:10 AM  
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/J1afFOpG_kE/0.jpg

We are getting closer and closer to deus ex world every day

Now all we need is the Grey Death and UNATCO and we are there.
 
2012-11-26 12:07:01 AM  
images.wikia.com

What an electromagnetic pulse hand grenade's target may look like.

/hot like the Mojave Wasteland
 
2012-11-26 12:16:16 AM  
All we have to do is have little makeshift faraday cages for EVERYTHING including the vehicles nearby anytime one of these is used. :P
 
2012-11-26 12:30:13 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: [www.polyvore.com image 300x300]


Hey man, if we end up with people like her...well, that's a risk I'm willing to take.

\loved that show
\\hated how it ended
 
2012-11-26 12:30:45 AM  

cretinbob: [www.gamesprays.com image 256x256]


Ah, TFC. I was the king of forward defense, sneaking into enemy bases and setting up all my buildings. The whole enemy team was trying to take down my sentry while heavies and demos are pouring out of my teleporter; elsewhere, a scout takes a leisurely stroll with the flag. When I finally got overwhelmed:
1) Charge into crowd of enemies
2) FFGFGFFGFGF
3) Repeat
 
2012-11-26 12:34:29 AM  

doglover: timujin: doglover: Arthur Jumbles: Step 1) Find data center for major banks and the IRS
Step 2) Set off EMP bombs
Step 3) Enjoy the chaos as ownership records disappear

Offsite backups, how the hell do they work?

I used to work for one of the larger storage companies. We were asked for an estimate to create disaster recovery / business continuity capabilities for a major oil company, at the time they kept everything onsite. They were interested in synchronous data replication, offsite backups, that sort of thing. We told them the price, they declined. While I'm sure they finally got their stuff taken care of, there was a time about ten years ago when anyone with a home built EMP could have shut them down.

10 years ago the internet was a different beast.


Indeed. I guess the entire point of my boring story was that some companies don't always do what's in their best interest when it comes to safeguarding their data.
 
2012-11-26 12:48:18 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

...says it's about time.
 
2012-11-26 12:49:28 AM  
Approves:
25.media.tumblr.com

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
may also be available, as a special order.
 
2012-11-26 12:52:01 AM  

RyansPrivates: [upload.wikimedia.org image 303x364]

...says it's about time.


Pfft, just hack the security panel and turn the bots against the guards. A whole lot less risk.
 
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