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2012-11-25 04:27:53 PM
5 votes:
And for those of you saying "Wow, Casey's pretty hot," remember:

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2012-11-25 04:27:48 PM
5 votes:
Here's your problem

images.mstarz.com
2012-11-25 04:44:37 PM
4 votes:

Coco LaFemme: I truly believe she killed that kid, because she's a party girl whore who saw being a mother as getting in the way of being a party girl whore. Of course, my gut feelings don't equate to a guilty verdict, so the jury's opinion stands......but I don't have to like it.


i.imgur.com

Thankfully, the law is not based on gut feelings and prejudices about "party girl whores".

She may have killed her child, but the case, as it was presented in a court of law, failed to convince a jury of her peers that she was guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
2012-11-25 04:25:23 PM
4 votes:
I truly believe she killed that kid, because she's a party girl whore who saw being a mother as getting in the way of being a party girl whore. Of course, my gut feelings don't equate to a guilty verdict, so the jury's opinion stands......but I don't have to like it.
2012-11-25 04:15:56 PM
4 votes:
This is what you get when your cybercime "expert" is a cop who can run a file undeletion utility in Windows. In this case, the suspect was dumb as dirt and that didn't even help the investigators.
2012-11-25 04:15:03 PM
4 votes:
Total incompetence by the prosecution team. And they should have filed a secondary charge of child endangerment. No way she would have beat that and at least served a few more months.
2012-11-25 08:02:31 PM
3 votes:

spawn73: MisterBill: DoomPaul: Flint Ironstag: And its hardly CSI level investigation. They can trace an IP address with a GUI written in visual basic. These guys didnt even think to check Firefox or get records from their ISP. They just checked the easily deleted ie history....

As a mostly technically ignorant individual, would using a VPN help cover one's tracks or is everything saved on your computer?

Not that I'm doing or planning to do anything illegal.

It would prevent your ISP from knowing what you're doing, but your browser history would remain (unless you securely delete it) as well as any logs on the sites you visit.

Not that I do anything illegal, of course.

How would an VPN isolate you from your ISP?

Your connection would go Computer->ISP->VPN->Internet.

Your ISP still sees everything happening, however anyone on the other side of the VPN can't trace you further than that.

---

Maybe this is something you should look into before doing whatever you're doing?


Generally, VPN connections are encrypted. The ISP can see that you connect to a particular IP Address, but cannot see the traffic that goes to the IP. That's why they're called Virtual Private Networks, not Virtual Public Networks.
2012-11-25 04:45:06 PM
3 votes:

Your Average Witty Fark User: Subby doesn't understand how the jury reached their decision.


Casey Anthony got off because Nancy Grace made it a national media mess by blabbing about it daily on her herp derp show.

images.mstarz.com

If Nancy Grace hadn't taken up her cause than Casey wouldn't have gotten a good lawyer and would have probably been convicted.
2012-11-25 04:36:57 PM
3 votes:

DoomPaul: Flint Ironstag: And its hardly CSI level investigation. They can trace an IP address with a GUI written in visual basic. These guys didnt even think to check Firefox or get records from their ISP. They just checked the easily deleted ie history....

As a mostly technically ignorant individual, would using a VPN help cover one's tracks or is everything saved on your computer?

Not that I'm doing or planning to do anything illegal.


There are numerous ways to leave no trail on the computer itself or with your ISP, or at least ways in which it makes it too expensive, time-consuming or beyond the technical expertise of most local police. But it's a bother and you only need to mess up once to leave enough evidence.

The easy way is to use a run-from-CD Linux distro or a Bart's PE CD that has TOR software installed; that setup saves nothing to a disk drive (you don't even need one in the computer) and makes it difficlt to track your Google searches and Internet activity. You can find .iso images of these on-line and burn your own copy as well as find some great cryptograhy software.

Nohing illegal in any of that, but besides being slow and a PITA, it also looks suspicious and investigators will likely work overtime finding other evidence of your crime since they would now be convinced of your guilt. They may not be the smartest, but they're not stupid and can be bulldog persistent, which usually pays off for them, especially when you make that inevitable mistake.
2012-11-25 04:36:07 PM
3 votes:

Britney Spear's Speculum: Here's your problem

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For every time she spoke the phrase "tot mom" I hope satan has another pineapple for her rectum.
2012-11-25 04:05:33 PM
3 votes:
i1120.photobucket.com
2012-11-25 06:04:22 PM
2 votes:
I have no problems with this.

Sloppy investigative work should *always* result in a not guilty verdict. Every farking time. No, I don't care about gut feelings or how the victim feels or anything like that. If the prosecutor, who has the resources of the entire government behind him, can't do it the right way, it shouldn't be done at all.

It's the only thing that keeps us from sliding down the path to where people eventually get disappeared in the dead of night and pushed out of helicopters 10 miles from shore.
2012-11-25 05:52:46 PM
2 votes:

PhiloeBedoe: poe_zlaw: PhiloeBedoe: I'm no lawyer but aren't you suppose to introduce evidence during the trial?

The only one responsible for introducing evidence to the trial is the prosecutor- not the defense attorney. The Prosecutor is the one bringing the case and has a duty duty to submit all evidence to the defense team under a process called discovery.

The point I was trying to make is why is the Sheriff's Dept. releasing this information now? What good does it do other than to deliberately imply guilt? She was tried and found not guilty, they had their shot.


They're trying (probably) to imply it's not THEIR fault she didn't get convicted...it's some lazy forensic computer investigator who didn't follow up on a lead. Likely because the prosecutor is on record as saying "It's too bad we didn't know about the search because we could have put the accidental death theory into question." Translation: It's not MY fault I didn't think of that sooner, it's the sheriff's office for not telling me something I should have thought of myself. It's all 13th hour ass-covering. The simple fact is that the DA went into the case without knowing if they even HAD a murder, much less who might have done it; so they never really had a case to start with.
2012-11-25 05:25:30 PM
2 votes:

citizenj: Encrypt using truecrypt, password and fingerprint access required, non-logging vpn for all internet activity.

How you like me now, son?


Truecrypt is a direct read for you know who.
2012-11-25 04:54:45 PM
2 votes:

wambu: Nohing illegal in any of that, but besides being slow and a PITA, it also looks suspicious and investigators will likely work overtime finding other evidence of your crime since they would now be convinced of your guilt. They may not be the smartest, but they're not stupid and can be bulldog persistent, which usually pays off for them, especially when you make that inevitable mistake.


Even if you don't make a mistake, they would likely consider it guilt of something, on the basis of "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear".

It's not unlike the Ohio law where drivers could be convicted for drug smuggling for simply having an empty compartment in their car.
2012-11-25 04:50:52 PM
2 votes:

iron de havilland: Coco LaFemme: I truly believe she killed that kid, because she's a party girl whore who saw being a mother as getting in the way of being a party girl whore. Of course, my gut feelings don't equate to a guilty verdict, so the jury's opinion stands......but I don't have to like it.

[i.imgur.com image 552x411]

Thankfully, the law is not based on gut feelings and prejudices about "party girl whores".

She may have killed her child, but the case, as it was presented in a court of law, failed to convince a jury of her peers that she was guilty beyond reasonable doubt.


You know how I know you didn't read the full text of the post you quoted?
2012-11-25 04:42:21 PM
2 votes:
History is such a wonderful subject. See how you all forgot it was the asshat Prosecutor who decided it was the death penalty or nothing for murder one, assuming he would get his 15 minutes of fame. Well he did get his 15 minutes of fame after all, for not realizing the basics of a reasonable doubt defense would undermine his watertight case and oh by the way, don't ever count on a Florida jury. Jeff Ashton is his name and he single handedly gave Jose Baez and his client a free ride on any number of murder/manslaughter charges that the jury would have bought into.

/Save your hate, haters, the Prosecutors shot at fame cost Caylee Anthony her justice. not some dickwad IT Geek being a dickwad IT Geek.
2012-11-25 04:29:06 PM
2 votes:

Coco LaFemme: I truly believe she killed that kid, because she's a party girl whore who saw being a mother as getting in the way of being a party girl whore. Of course, my gut feelings don't equate to a guilty verdict, so the jury's opinion stands......but I don't have to like it.


All of ^^^this^^ plus the fact that her parents forced her to carry the pregnancy.
2012-11-25 04:27:26 PM
2 votes:
Encrypt using truecrypt, password and fingerprint access required, non-logging vpn for all internet activity.

How you like me now, son?
2012-11-25 04:26:36 PM
2 votes:
I'm no lawyer but aren't you suppose to introduce evidence during the trial?
2012-11-25 08:55:50 PM
1 votes:
Oh great, now my clueless boss is going to tell me to stop using FireFox because child-murderers use it. Bad PR, you know.

/already had one confrontation over it
//she said "that FireFox thing" wasn't approved
///so I asked for documentation that IE was required and never heard back from her
2012-11-25 08:31:43 PM
1 votes:

iheartscotch: Vegan Meat Popsicle: iheartscotch: At best; it proves someone looked it up on her computer, not who.

Another doctorate holder in CSI: Miami.

A large enough body of circumstantial evidence is sufficient by itself for a normal, intelligent person to believe beyond any reasonable doubt that a person is guilty. There comes a point at which smart people stop and think "boy... that sure is an awful lot of coincidences to happen to one person at one time without some driving force behind them".

Circumstantial evidence is weak evidence. The reason it's called circumstantial evidence is that it really doesn't prove anything untoward happened.

Hair is circumstantial because all it proves is contact. Ex. You had contact with someone who recently had contact with the person in question.

Sometimes circumstantial evidence is enough for a conviction. Sometimes it isn't. It all depends on how the evidence is presented and how each lawyer deals with it.

/ I feel that a murder charge should not be allowed based on just on circumstantial evidence; I feel that there needs to be a smoking gun (read a factor that makes the intent to commit murder obvious) for murder. But, that's just me.


Well, first of all there has to be a murder. That was ultimately why this particular case fell apart for the prosecution--they couldn't prove the child was even murdered (i.e., died at the hands of another human being) as opposed to her death being accidental. Their whole case boiled down to "Well, IF she was killed by EITHER being chloroformed or suffocated to death and IF her mother had had either the chloroform or duct tape which she got for the express purpose of killing her child, etc. etc. THEN this would be first-degree murder." But they couldn't even make that first connection. They had no solid evidence of how the child died.

Circumstantial evidence works well if there's a cause of death that can be tied to the physical evidence in the defendant's possession. If a victim is killed by being poisoned with arsenic, and the defendant ordered a pound of arsenic-based rat poison a week before the death and didn't have any other reason for doing so; then even if nobody saw the defendant poison the victim, that's pretty good circumstantial evidence. But that's not what we had here.
2012-11-25 06:58:26 PM
1 votes:

Butthurted: tzzhc4: Your Average Witty Fark User: Subby doesn't understand how the jury reached their decision.

Casey Anthony got off because Nancy Grace made it a national media mess by blabbing about it daily on her herp derp show.

[images.mstarz.com image 300x226]

If Nancy Grace hadn't taken up her cause than Casey wouldn't have gotten a good lawyer and would have probably been convicted.

It is my opinion that Nancy Grace is the the most reprehensible person currently known within our society. Where as many seem to content to draw their distinctions along political, religious or even geographic divides, I tend to view the world as being comprised of two camps, those that would like to see her drawn and quartered and those that do not.


Which sucks because she covers interesting cases in depth. I wish I could watch her show. I tried the other day when she was reviewing the Hailey Dunn case, but I only made it half way to the commercial break before wanting to gouge out both my eyes and ears with a rusty screwdriver. Holy fark, she not only is the most annoying human on the planet, but for a supposed lawer, she cares very little for actual law or those pesky fact thingies, does she?

And what the hell is up with that nose?
2012-11-25 06:42:49 PM
1 votes:
Why did she need chloroform if it was an accident?
2012-11-25 06:35:45 PM
1 votes:

iheartscotch: At best; it proves someone looked it up on her computer, not who.


Another doctorate holder in CSI: Miami.

A large enough body of circumstantial evidence is sufficient by itself for a normal, intelligent person to believe beyond any reasonable doubt that a person is guilty. There comes a point at which smart people stop and think "boy... that sure is an awful lot of coincidences to happen to one person at one time without some driving force behind them".
2012-11-25 06:08:52 PM
1 votes:

DammitIForgotMyLogin: diaphoresis: It took about 1yr. Even with court transcripts and an attorney, the credit monitors have their own set of rules about what and when anything can/will come off a credit report. It helped that all my other creditors had me on excellent terms and that we caught the fraud so early.

So even when given detailed and conclusive proof that if wasn't you, the credit monitors still keep these entries on your credit record?


Yes. The agencies have their own rules and practices. My attorney said I was lucky enough to get this fixed in a year. Sometimes they won't do anything at all.
2012-11-25 06:05:21 PM
1 votes:
Just like Michael Jackson, I think she's guilty, but the prosecution didn't prove it. If the prosecution didn't prove the crimes, the juries did the right thing by acquitting. I see no reason to blame the juries of either case.

Those cases were far more circumstantial and hard to prove than the O.J. Simpson murders. For O.J., the prosecution proved it every which way, so we can blame that jury for being dumb. At least with him, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas for 15 years, so he's where he belongs.
2012-11-25 05:54:49 PM
1 votes:

FitzShivering: diaphoresis: FitzShivering: diaphoresis: I have been the victim of identity theft. Fortunately 2 things occurred:

1. I know a brilliant computer guy who knew how to get the records ISPs say they don't keep on customers
2. The identity thief did everything by Internet

He literally helped me find out who did it, what her REAL name/SSN/birthdate/address was, and handed the cops over a ream of paper detailing everything.

Did the police do anything with it?

Yes.. They arrested the woman in Florida. It was her 3rd strike. Her lawyer called to ask about reparations.. I told him she could die in prison and I'd call it square.. He hung up on me.

Excellent. That is very good to hear. Know of a few cases personally where the police just shrugged, so sounds like maybe at least a few departments are starting to understand the importance of what they're being given!

I hope you all got the identity stuff worked out, I know it's a bear to fix even after they catch the person. :(


It took about 1yr. Even with court transcripts and an attorney, the credit monitors have their own set of rules about what and when anything can/will come off a credit report. It helped that all my other creditors had me on excellent terms and that we caught the fraud so early.
2012-11-25 05:51:16 PM
1 votes:

diaphoresis: FitzShivering: diaphoresis: I have been the victim of identity theft. Fortunately 2 things occurred:

1. I know a brilliant computer guy who knew how to get the records ISPs say they don't keep on customers
2. The identity thief did everything by Internet

He literally helped me find out who did it, what her REAL name/SSN/birthdate/address was, and handed the cops over a ream of paper detailing everything.

Did the police do anything with it?

Yes.. They arrested the woman in Florida. It was her 3rd strike. Her lawyer called to ask about reparations.. I told him she could die in prison and I'd call it square.. He hung up on me.


Excellent. That is very good to hear. Know of a few cases personally where the police just shrugged, so sounds like maybe at least a few departments are starting to understand the importance of what they're being given!

I hope you all got the identity stuff worked out, I know it's a bear to fix even after they catch the person. :(
2012-11-25 05:43:55 PM
1 votes:

Valiente: Butthurted: tzzhc4: Your Average Witty Fark User: Subby doesn't understand how the jury reached their decision.

Casey Anthony got off because Nancy Grace made it a national media mess by blabbing about it daily on her herp derp show.

[images.mstarz.com image 300x226]

If Nancy Grace hadn't taken up her cause than Casey wouldn't have gotten a good lawyer and would have probably been convicted.

It is my opinion that Nancy Grace is the the most reprehensible person currently known within our society. Where as many seem to content to draw their distinctions along political, religious or even geographic divides, I tend to view the world as being comprised of two camps, those that would like to see her drawn and quartered and those that do not.

But if there was a hardcore porno of her putting stress cracks in Ann Coulter's boyish pelvis thanks to the vigorous and prolonged thrusting of Nancy Grace's epic-sized strap-on, would it twitch?

Just a little?

I for one would be conflicted, and I like neither of those hags.


Although "it" twitches from the mere sight of a ill-concealed bra strap while stalking the regulars at the Queen sized aisle of the local Wallyworld, the idea of an Ann Coulter/Nancy Grace scissor-lock being committed to film for all of posterity to witness sends a shiver most evil down my spine and causes my (rather sizable, of course) man parts to pull as far within my body cavity, as possible, in an effort to escape the horror. Ohhhhh the horror.
2012-11-25 05:29:10 PM
1 votes:

the ha ha guy: wambu: Nohing illegal in any of that, but besides being slow and a PITA, it also looks suspicious and investigators will likely work overtime finding other evidence of your crime since they would now be convinced of your guilt. They may not be the smartest, but they're not stupid and can be bulldog persistent, which usually pays off for them, especially when you make that inevitable mistake.

Even if you don't make a mistake, they would likely consider it guilt of something, on the basis of "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear".


So much for civil liberties America.

It's not unlike the Ohio law where drivers could be convicted for drug smuggling for simply having an empty compartment in their car.

I purchased a former drug-smuggling boat at a government auction (great boat, great deal, great story about it). There were several voids/hidden compartments in the boat that had been used to hide drugs. Each one had a sticker atached that warned that it was a crime to cover them up. The stickers somehow came loose before I sold that fun, fun boat (11-meter Scarab).

/"Yes your Honor, he covered up a hole in his boat. We ask for the death penalty."
2012-11-25 05:24:03 PM
1 votes:

Happy Hours: I also don't have a Facebook account which according to some people is a red flag that I'm anti-social.


Or at least anti-social networking.
2012-11-25 05:11:59 PM
1 votes:

FitzShivering: diaphoresis: I have been the victim of identity theft. Fortunately 2 things occurred:

1. I know a brilliant computer guy who knew how to get the records ISPs say they don't keep on customers
2. The identity thief did everything by Internet

He literally helped me find out who did it, what her REAL name/SSN/birthdate/address was, and handed the cops over a ream of paper detailing everything.

Did the police do anything with it?


Yes.. They arrested the woman in Florida. It was her 3rd strike. Her lawyer called to ask about reparations.. I told him she could die in prison and I'd call it square.. He hung up on me.
2012-11-25 05:09:52 PM
1 votes:

wambu: There are numerous ways to leave no trail on the computer itself or with your ISP, or at least ways in which it makes it too expensive, time-consuming or beyond the technical expertise of most local police.


img819.imageshack.us
2012-11-25 05:02:16 PM
1 votes:
I have been the victim of identity theft. Fortunately 2 things occurred:

1. I know a brilliant computer guy who knew how to get the records ISPs say they don't keep on customers
2. The identity thief did everything by Internet

He literally helped me find out who did it, what her REAL name/SSN/birthdate/address was, and handed the cops over a ream of paper detailing everything.

and the detectives in the Anthony case didn't even thoroughly check browser cache / history... wow.. I underpay my computer guy. Maybe I should have given him a bj...
2012-11-25 05:00:21 PM
1 votes:

wildcardjack: I use two laptops, a tablet, and gave a neighbor wifi access. On a netbook that used to be mine.

If you accessed my internet history you'd have to piece together the histories from at least seven different web browsers. It's not unusual for me to use Chrome and Firefox at the same time.

Then all you'd have would be Fark, Fark links, hundreds of some seller side Amazon pages, randomized links to wikipedia and an unhealthy amount of hentai. By the time an investigator got anywhere all they'd know is I'm a bit warped, but they'd be hard pressed to prove anything.


I also remember reading about a program you can install which basically screws up any trends data-miners try to get by just randomly hitting various websites every so often. I don't remember the name or all the details, but the basic idea is to create so much noise that any data that is collected is essentially worthless.

Then again, I don't see how search history is anything but circumstantial. I've searched for a variety of topics which I had only a mild curiosity about.

I also don't have a Facebook account which according to some people is a red flag that I'm anti-social.
2012-11-25 04:36:24 PM
1 votes:
I use two laptops, a tablet, and gave a neighbor wifi access. On a netbook that used to be mine.

If you accessed my internet history you'd have to piece together the histories from at least seven different web browsers. It's not unusual for me to use Chrome and Firefox at the same time.

Then all you'd have would be Fark, Fark links, hundreds of some seller side Amazon pages, randomized links to wikipedia and an unhealthy amount of hentai. By the time an investigator got anywhere all they'd know is I'm a bit warped, but they'd be hard pressed to prove anything.
2012-11-25 04:15:50 PM
1 votes:

DoomPaul: Flint Ironstag: And its hardly CSI level investigation. They can trace an IP address with a GUI written in visual basic. These guys didnt even think to check Firefox or get records from their ISP. They just checked the easily deleted ie history....

As a mostly technically ignorant individual, would using a VPN help cover one's tracks or is everything saved on your computer?

Not that I'm doing or planning to do anything illegal.


It would prevent your ISP from knowing what you're doing, but your browser history would remain (unless you securely delete it) as well as any logs on the sites you visit.

Not that I do anything illegal, of course.
2012-11-25 04:14:27 PM
1 votes:

jaytkay: Whatever
[www.infamoushotties.com image 450x337] 

/ Hot
// In more ways than one


What do they always say around here about sticking something in crazy?? Double so for this one!
2012-11-25 04:11:51 PM
1 votes:
Whatever
www.infamoushotties.com 

/ Hot
// In more ways than one
2012-11-25 04:11:40 PM
1 votes:

Flint Ironstag: And its hardly CSI level investigation. They can trace an IP address with a GUI written in visual basic. These guys didnt even think to check Firefox or get records from their ISP. They just checked the easily deleted ie history....


As a mostly technically ignorant individual, would using a VPN help cover one's tracks or is everything saved on your computer?

Not that I'm doing or planning to do anything illegal.
2012-11-25 04:11:11 PM
1 votes:
Man, if they didn't rush into the trial; they could have discovered this and she still would have gotten acquitted. At best; it proves someone looked it up on her computer, not who.
2012-11-25 04:06:02 PM
1 votes:
That's some fine work there detective....
 
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