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(Some Guy)   Apparently Red Dawn is a passionate call to arms against the Chinese menace-- correction, North Korean menace-- ah, scratch that, just feel free to hate anyone who looks 'Oriental'   (youoffendmeyouoffendmyfamily.com) divider line 81
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2012-11-25 12:20:13 PM
With the exception of maybe one or two tweets, I'm pretty sure all of those were jokes. Author sounds like a real douche.

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2012-11-25 12:26:53 PM
But Middle-Easterners are so passé...
 
2012-11-25 12:27:22 PM

Lsherm: With the exception of maybe one or two tweets, I'm pretty sure all of those were jokes.


Even if they are jokes, it is really stupid of them to attach their real names to them. Kids are too stupid to use social media responsibly.
 
2012-11-25 12:28:52 PM
Considering that there's been a rash of anti-Asian crimes that's been going on in the last couple of years, that's kind of terrifying.
 
2012-11-25 12:31:13 PM
i'm still bitter about 'Sum of all Fears' being gutted and censored....i'm really not in the mood to see how badly this movie got butchered.
 
2012-11-25 12:34:27 PM

Lsherm: With the exception of maybe one or two tweets, I'm pretty sure all of those were jokes.


The one at the top (about being surrounded by Asians at Starbucks and feeling awkward) was a joke--there's nothing racist about it by itself. I'm guessing the Tweeter was observing how the movie made her hyper-aware of racial difference, and that made her uncomfortable.

As for the others, with Poe's Law in effect, it's hard to tell from one Tweet whether someone is being facetious. And that's the problem--when other people read it, they're only seeing that person's one Tweet. If you're making a joke that relies on people knowing your history in order to realize that what you said is out of character for you, don't make it public. Otherwise, you look like an asshole.
 
2012-11-25 01:02:03 PM

Forty-Two: Lsherm: With the exception of maybe one or two tweets, I'm pretty sure all of those were jokes.

The one at the top (about being surrounded by Asians at Starbucks and feeling awkward) was a joke--there's nothing racist about it by itself. I'm guessing the Tweeter was observing how the movie made her hyper-aware of racial difference, and that made her uncomfortable.

As for the others, with Poe's Law in effect, it's hard to tell from one Tweet whether someone is being facetious. And that's the problem--when other people read it, they're only seeing that person's one Tweet. If you're making a joke that relies on people knowing your history in order to realize that what you said is out of character for you, don't make it public. Otherwise, you look like an asshole.



^^^^That right there.
 
I've been known to say things in a rather off-color manner.  Some involving race and gender.  You have to know when and where that works.  And where it makes you look like a douche (even *when* people know its an attempt at a joke).
 
Thats what I hate about twitter... its nearly impossible to provide context.  Only people like Louis CK and Sarah Silverman can get away with it.  Now, you may not find them funny... but you know that they're not racist or sexist deep down inside.  Because you know their gig.  Everyday people like myself... no, that's why I don't take to Twitter and the like for such shenanagans.  I keep it in the bar with my equally off-color friends.
 
2012-11-25 02:11:47 PM

downstairs: I've been known to say things in a rather off-color manner.  Some involving race and gender.  You have to know when and where that works.  And where it makes you look like a douche (even *when* people know its an attempt at a joke).


But what about all the people who get so riled up about Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's? That was comedy. The movie wasn't trying to say that's how all Chinese people are, but a lot of people seem to think it's horribly racist.
 
Thats what I hate about twitter... its nearly impossible to provide context.  Only people like Louis CK and Sarah Silverman can get away with it.  Now, you may not find them funny... but you know that they're not racist or sexist deep down inside.  Because you know their gig.  Everyday people like myself... no, that's why I don't take to Twitter and the like for such shenanagans.  I keep it in the bar with my equally off-color friends.

Actually, I don't know that Louis CK and Sarah Silverman aren't racist or sexist. Maybe they're not. They have a stage persona. Some people think they're great, other people don't. They're not likely going to lose any fans over their tweets and they might even gain some or remind their fans why they like them.

Twitter (for them) is just an extension of their stage persona.

I just read the first dozen or so tweets in the article and everyone mentioned Asians, not realizing that it's about North Koreans invading the US (even if it was originally supposed to be Chinese) and not all Asians. Even so, it's just a farking movie.

What a bunch of idiots - even more so to (as you point out) publicly tweet that shiat.
 
2012-11-25 02:22:36 PM
Meanwhile in North Korea:

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2012-11-25 02:29:08 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Meanwhile in North Korea:

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Look at that brave GI who just saved a Korean baby from a well!
 
2012-11-25 02:40:00 PM

Snarfangel: Because People in power are Stupid: Meanwhile in North Korea:

[oneutah.org image 500x509]

Look at that brave GI who just saved a Korean baby from a well!


The baby is giving him a thumbs-up
 
2012-11-25 02:42:00 PM

Snarfangel: Look at that brave GI who just saved a Korean baby from a well!


+1 will lol again.
 
2012-11-25 03:35:09 PM

violentsalvation: Lsherm: With the exception of maybe one or two tweets, I'm pretty sure all of those were jokes.

Even if they are jokes, it is really stupid of them to attach their real names to them. Kids are too stupid to use social media responsibly.


This^...I'm sure they're trying to be snarky, not racist, but they end up just being douchebags.
 
2012-11-25 03:52:38 PM

Happy Hours: downstairs: I've been known to say things in a rather off-color manner.  Some involving race and gender.  You have to know when and where that works.  And where it makes you look like a douche (even *when* people know its an attempt at a joke).

But what about all the people who get so riled up about Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's? That was comedy. The movie wasn't trying to say that's how all Chinese people are, but a lot of people seem to think it's horribly racist.
 
Thats what I hate about twitter... its nearly impossible to provide context.  Only people like Louis CK and Sarah Silverman can get away with it.  Now, you may not find them funny... but you know that they're not racist or sexist deep down inside.  Because you know their gig.  Everyday people like myself... no, that's why I don't take to Twitter and the like for such shenanagans.  I keep it in the bar with my equally off-color friends.

Actually, I don't know that Louis CK and Sarah Silverman aren't racist or sexist. Maybe they're not. They have a stage persona. Some people think they're great, other people don't. They're not likely going to lose any fans over their tweets and they might even gain some or remind their fans why they like them.

Twitter (for them) is just an extension of their stage persona.

I just read the first dozen or so tweets in the article and everyone mentioned Asians, not realizing that it's about North Koreans invading the US (even if it was originally supposed to be Chinese) and not all Asians. Even so, it's just a farking movie.

What a bunch of idiots - even more so to (as you point out) publicly tweet that shiat.


Louis CK would make jokes about dumb white people trying to be funny but failing miserably at it, not unfunny quips about how many Asians there are.
 
2012-11-25 03:57:19 PM
Well, in any case, it's good to know that it's all the liberals' fault as they are the real racists.
 
2012-11-25 03:59:02 PM

propasaurus: Well, in any case, it's good to know that it's all the liberals' fault as they are the real racists.


You're the real racist for pointing out the racist racism of the racist racists, you racist!
 
2012-11-25 03:59:27 PM
communists are so 1960s....
 
2012-11-25 04:01:17 PM
Take a good look at my face. I'm an Oriental.
 
2012-11-25 04:03:32 PM
An interesting sidenote is the growing influence of China in the U.S. film industry. Several movies have had to make changes because of Chinese influence. Red Dawn, of course, the original script had the Chinese as the invaders, but that had to be changed at the last minute to North Korea.
Looper was partially financed by China, so they had to change script references that were critical of China. The Karate Kid remake was financed by China, which is why it was shot there and Mr. Miyagi was changed from Japanese to Chinese.
 
2012-11-25 04:08:07 PM
I'm pretty sure half of those douches are 14 and under.
 
2012-11-25 04:20:23 PM
".... hate anyone who looks 'Oriental'"

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Asian-American, please
 
2012-11-25 04:27:27 PM
Well, I feel totally stupid right now.

All this time, I thought that RED DAWN was a movie adaptation of the video game HOMEFRONT that was released last year.

North Korea invasion that replaced the original Chinese invasion, a ragtag group of resistors fighitng against the Korean occupation of the US...

Damn, how could I have missed that!
 
2012-11-25 04:27:39 PM
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2012-11-25 04:28:33 PM

miltonbabbitt: ".... hate anyone who looks 'Oriental'"

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Asian-American, please


Meta reference alert. This thread will now implode.
 
2012-11-25 04:37:25 PM
Having actually seen the movie, 1. One of the good guys "looks Oriental" and 2. Roger Ebert either avoids spoilers or didn't watch the damn movie.
 
2012-11-25 04:58:05 PM
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Sorry, Red Dawn is one of those movies that can't be remade without being a huge pile of suck. The zeitgeist that made that movie what it was, along with being the first PG-13 movie, can't be recreated.
 
2012-11-25 04:58:06 PM
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Um yeah I would use a gun against that. But I won't be firing 5.56 round though.
 
2012-11-25 05:16:18 PM

propasaurus: The Karate Kid remake was financed by China, which is why it was shot there and Mr. Miyagi was changed from Japanese to Chinese.


I'm sure being able to cast Jackie Chan because of the change also helped.
 
2012-11-25 05:19:27 PM
you have launch codes?
 
2012-11-25 05:27:33 PM
Go through the tweets again, and replace the word "Asian" with "Black". Tell me again how those tweet sounds.

Asians are now the only ethnic group that people think it is okay to bully because white people realize they won't fight back. Tweet that now you hate all black people and you get cracked upside the head and ostracised from society. Tweet that you hate all Asians and people think it is a joke.
 
2012-11-25 05:30:16 PM

propasaurus: The Karate Kid remake was financed by China,


That explains why it was an abortion
 
2012-11-25 05:35:53 PM
There are douchebags on Twitter. Millions of them. You can cherry pick tweets that serve any kind of prejudice you can imagine. Even the dreaded herophobia.
 
2012-11-25 05:40:23 PM

downstairs: Forty-Two: Lsherm: With the exception of maybe one or two tweets, I'm pretty sure all of those were jokes.

The one at the top (about being surrounded by Asians at Starbucks and feeling awkward) was a joke--there's nothing racist about it by itself. I'm guessing the Tweeter was observing how the movie made her hyper-aware of racial difference, and that made her uncomfortable.

As for the others, with Poe's Law in effect, it's hard to tell from one Tweet whether someone is being facetious. And that's the problem--when other people read it, they're only seeing that person's one Tweet. If you're making a joke that relies on people knowing your history in order to realize that what you said is out of character for you, don't make it public. Otherwise, you look like an asshole.


^^^^That right there.
 
I've been known to say things in a rather off-color manner.  Some involving race and gender.  You have to know when and where that works.  And where it makes you look like a douche (even *when* people know its an attempt at a joke).
 
Thats what I hate about twitter... its nearly impossible to provide context.  Only people like Louis CK and Sarah Silverman can get away with it.  Now, you may not find them funny... but you know that they're not racist or sexist deep down inside.  Because you know their gig.  Everyday people like myself... no, that's why I don't take to Twitter and the like for such shenanagans.  I keep it in the bar with my equally off-color friends.



You hate something (twitter) that you voluntarily subscribe to?

That's pretty dumb.

I've never used nor seen it, have no desire.
 
2012-11-25 05:41:24 PM

violentsalvation: Lsherm: With the exception of maybe one or two tweets, I'm pretty sure all of those were jokes.

Even if they are jokes, it is really stupid of them to attach their real names to them. Kids are too stupid to use social media responsibly.


So how do you tell an off color joke? Upload that shiat to Tor and tell your friends there "might be" something funny out there. Seriously how do you not attach your name to jokes you tell?
 
2012-11-25 05:42:06 PM

Captain Darling: There are douchebags on Twitter. Millions of them. You can cherry pick tweets that serve any kind of prejudice you can imagine. Even the dreaded herophobia.


"There must be thousands of 'em, millions of 'em. What the hell are they doing?"

"Looks like they're preparing to share their ignorant opinions."
 
2012-11-25 06:04:36 PM
I think the author needs to invest in a new sarcasm detector for some of those tweets.
 
2012-11-25 06:06:48 PM
Including japs?
 
2012-11-25 06:12:08 PM
My mom's super-conservative friends from Alaska were visiting here the other day. One of them used the "O" word twice in one conversation, as in "Those old age homes are awful, they're all run by orientals".

/rsb
 
2012-11-25 06:18:15 PM
The idea that China can censor US movies AND WE DO IT is pretty frightening in and of itself. It's pretty ironic that a movie about US freedom was censored at the behest of a totalitarian country and nobody has even commented on that aspect of it, except in sort of an offhand and humorous way.
 
2012-11-25 06:21:40 PM

Gyrfalcon: The idea that China can censor US movies AND WE DO IT is pretty frightening in and of itself. It's pretty ironic that a movie about US freedom was censored at the behest of a totalitarian country and nobody has even commented on that aspect of it, except in sort of an offhand and humorous way.


Um, it was the studios that did it. There was no Government decree or anything.
 
2012-11-25 06:22:08 PM

Gyrfalcon: It's pretty ironic that a movie about US freedom was censored at the behest of a totalitarian country and nobody has even commented on that aspect of it, except in sort of an offhand and humorous way.


The fact that Red Dawn was censored had less to do with the objections of a government and more with the realization that people in China are less likely to go to the movie theatres and watch a movie about them getting killed by a group of American kids.
 
2012-11-25 06:25:08 PM

Second Try: Including japs?


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2012-11-25 06:38:56 PM
 
2012-11-25 06:39:53 PM
I though the Chinese were our allies in Red Dawn. The Russians and the Cubans were the enemy.
 
2012-11-25 06:50:59 PM

EvilEgg: I though the Chinese were our allies in Red Dawn. The Russians and the Cubans were the enemy.


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They were.
 
2012-11-25 06:59:39 PM
You gotta love Twitter. It allows idiots to out themselves to the world.
 
2012-11-25 07:06:21 PM
I saw the movie the other day. It wasn't terrible. The writers had a deft hand at developing characters quickly, so they could be fairly quickly identified and their motivations understood, while getting all that film-school stuff out of the way so we could watch a movie about a bunch of American kids defending their homes from foreign invasion. It's not the best movie of all time, but I'd say it's worth a matinee if you like that sort of movie.

Or you can just keep on hating. Whichever.

Watching the kids shooting Koreans was a bit uncomfortable, and I wish they'd done a little work to humanize the Korean captain. And yeah, we're not deathly afraid of an imminent Korean invasion the way we were about the Russians in the '80s. But still. A movie's a movie.
 
2012-11-25 07:44:57 PM

violentsalvation: Lsherm: With the exception of maybe one or two tweets, I'm pretty sure all of those were jokes.

Even if they are jokes, it is really stupid of them to attach their real names to them. Kids are too stupid to use social media responsibly.


Yep. One of the few things twitter is fun for is looking up these people and seeing the aftermath of their stupidity.
 
2012-11-25 07:49:21 PM

RexTalionis: Gyrfalcon: It's pretty ironic that a movie about US freedom was censored at the behest of a totalitarian country and nobody has even commented on that aspect of it, except in sort of an offhand and humorous way.

The fact that Red Dawn was censored had less to do with the objections of a government and more with the realization that people in China are less likely to go to the movie theatres and watch a movie about them getting killed by a group of American kids.


Actually it has everything to do with the fact that the Chinese government can simply not allow it to be shown there at all. They can do that, you know.
 
2012-11-25 07:50:02 PM
ah, scratch that, just feel free to hate anyone who looks 'Oriental'

Can I just keep hating people that use twitter?
 
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