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2012-11-25 09:20:49 AM
Ollie got old
 
2012-11-25 10:32:51 AM
Don't mess with grandpa Squanto.
 
2012-11-25 10:33:28 AM
in a few more weeks we'll see this fellow wearing a sash, waving good-bye to the past year
 
2012-11-25 10:34:13 AM
In before Dittybopper
 
2012-11-25 10:35:00 AM
What the homeowner might look like:

i54.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-25 10:35:35 AM

Oldiron_79: In before Dittybopper


Only just barely.
 
2012-11-25 10:41:13 AM
Gun-->Bow and Arrow, Young-->Old, East Coast-->West Coast, George Zimmerman-->Hometown Hero
 
2012-11-25 10:41:45 AM

Nick Nostril: Don't mess with grandpa Squanto.


Yeah. He's silent, but deadly.
 
2012-11-25 10:41:46 AM
Old. School.
 
2012-11-25 10:46:45 AM
"Stay on my lawn!"
 
2012-11-25 11:29:47 AM
Crazy old man.. whatever keeps 'em away from his house..

/ruger lcp 380 more effective than bow & arrow
 
2012-11-25 11:48:59 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Stay on my lawn!"

Came here for this^.

diaphoresis: Crazy old man.. whatever keeps 'em away from his house..
/ruger lcp 380 more effective than bow & arrow

Am I the only one here that thinks you don't point deadly weapons at kids playing around your house?
 
2012-11-25 11:58:21 AM
That's kind of interesting. Particularly since he made his own weapon. He has nothing on this dude, however.

Hubs got a braced slingshot the other day and we did some target practice yesterday. Not as easy as it looks.

Ablejack
Am I the only one here that thinks you don't point deadly weapons at kids playing around your house?


If I heard that report correctly, they weren't just playing around his house. They hopped his fence and entered his property. Maybe the kids in your area are a bit more trustable. But, this guy has already experienced break-ins and I don't blame him for being himself and his property. Also - he didn't shoot.
 
2012-11-25 11:59:55 AM
in before phenn

/oh wait... dammit
 
2012-11-25 12:33:42 PM
I found a photograph of her Grandmother

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2012-11-25 12:38:24 PM

diaphoresis: Crazy old man.. whatever keeps 'em away from his house..

/ruger lcp 380 more effective than bow & arrow


I doubt that.

And I say that as a gun and archery guy, so I've got a modicum of experience in this field.

Looks like the bow the guy was using was at least 40 lbs pull, based upon the arrow speed (nice fast cast too, btw), and I'm betting he could hit a human sized silhouette from farther away with the bow than you could with the Ruger.
 
2012-11-25 12:41:21 PM

phenn: Ablejack
Am I the only one here that thinks you don't point deadly weapons at kids playing around your house?

If I heard that report correctly, they weren't just playing around his house. They hopped his fence and entered his property. Maybe the kids in your area are a bit more trustable. But, this guy has already experienced break-ins and I don't blame him for being himself and his property. Also - he didn't shoot.


Yep. Not like an unfenced yard where they could claim they were just 'cutting through'. They had to jump the fence just to get there, and they had no real reason to be there.
 
2012-11-25 12:42:10 PM

cwick: Old. School.


No. Old school is an atlatl.
 
2012-11-25 12:49:12 PM

dittybopper: diaphoresis: Crazy old man.. whatever keeps 'em away from his house..

/ruger lcp 380 more effective than bow & arrow

I doubt that.

And I say that as a gun and archery guy, so I've got a modicum of experience in this field.

Looks like the bow the guy was using was at least 40 lbs pull, based upon the arrow speed (nice fast cast too, btw), and I'm betting he could hit a human sized silhouette from farther away with the bow than you could with the Ruger.


If you're really a gun guy, Ruger isn't for trying to kill someone at 80-100 yds... >.>
 
2012-11-25 12:52:21 PM

diaphoresis: dittybopper: diaphoresis: Crazy old man.. whatever keeps 'em away from his house..

/ruger lcp 380 more effective than bow & arrow

I doubt that.

And I say that as a gun and archery guy, so I've got a modicum of experience in this field.

Looks like the bow the guy was using was at least 40 lbs pull, based upon the arrow speed (nice fast cast too, btw), and I'm betting he could hit a human sized silhouette from farther away with the bow than you could with the Ruger.

If you're really a gun guy, Ruger isn't for trying to kill someone at 80-100 yds... >.>


Neither is a bow. Especially a bow like that. I should know:

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I can hit a human sized target at 50 yards with that bow, but to hit accurately (like a heart/lung shot), has to be 20 yards, maybe 25 at most, or closer.
 
2012-11-25 12:53:50 PM

dittybopper: I can hit a human sized target at 50 yards with that bow


I should qualify that by saying "most of the time".
 
2012-11-25 01:13:04 PM
How old is Rambo by the way?
 
2012-11-25 02:03:14 PM
Should have shot him in the knee.
 
2012-11-25 02:04:19 PM

Resident Muslim: How old is Rambo by the way?


Vietnam vet, which means he had to be at least 18 in 1970-ish. Born about 1952, which would make him at least 60 years old today.
 
2012-11-25 02:22:29 PM

dittybopper: Resident Muslim: How old is Rambo by the way?

Vietnam vet, which means he had to be at least 18 in 1970-ish. Born about 1952, which would make him at least 60 years old today.


Point of order. In the 2nd movie, he references where he and a group of Marines were in '66 while in Vietnam. So it's more likely he was born in 1946-47.

/Wow I feel silly.
 
2012-11-25 02:23:06 PM

Resident Muslim: How old is Rambo by the way?


Sylvester Stallone is 66.
 
2012-11-25 02:36:35 PM
Today:
tribfox40.files.wordpress.com

40 years ago:
sequart.org
 
2012-11-25 03:18:08 PM
Really? just stand there til the codger can't hold his draw any longer a minute max. Then run away.
 
2012-11-25 04:09:00 PM
I was originally thinking that the "homemade bow and arrow" was something redneck-teched in the name of improvisation, but that's actually a pretty nice proper homebrew bow set :D
 
2012-11-25 05:53:52 PM
First burglar (to second burgler): Stay away from that nut with the homemade bow and arror. He's got nothing worth stealing. and he probably has tiger traps. Stick to homeowners with guns that are worth stealing and easy-to-silence alarm systems that cost a fortune.

I protect my property by filling my windows with books. That way the burglers know that an impecunious looney lives here.
 
2012-11-25 07:47:18 PM

Ball Zitch: dittybopper: Resident Muslim: How old is Rambo by the way?

Vietnam vet, which means he had to be at least 18 in 1970-ish. Born about 1952, which would make him at least 60 years old today.

Point of order. In the 2nd movie, he references where he and a group of Marines were in '66 while in Vietnam. So it's more likely he was born in 1946-47.

/Wow I feel silly.


I was putting a lower bound on his age: we started pulling ground troops out in the early 1970s. No younger than 60.
 
2012-11-25 07:55:52 PM

laid back w/bud light: Really? just stand there til the codger can't hold his draw any longer a minute max. Then run away.


He wouldn't have been holding it at full draw. He would have had it at the ready, pointing at the kid and ready to draw and loose. Takes only a second to do that.
 
2012-11-25 08:37:57 PM
Look I respect your use of archaic muzzleloaders for target or hunting, whatever you use them for. I however use a modern in-line TC with a scope to ensure a quicker death of my game. Would you rather hold 50lbs at full draw with a longbow or 20lbs at full draw with a 60% letoff compound bow? Here's your out, tell me how many deer/animals you killed in the last 10 years yada yada. I give the old man a 1 in 5 chance of hitting the kid under 20 yards, zero chance over 30 yards.
 
2012-11-25 10:02:09 PM
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2012-11-26 08:11:49 AM

laid back w/bud light: Look I respect your use of archaic muzzleloaders for target or hunting, whatever you use them for. I however use a modern in-line TC with a scope to ensure a quicker death of my game.


Trust me, deer die just as quickly after being hit with a 230 grain .535" lead ball as they do with a 250 grain saboted pistol bullet from a Thompson/Center. Dead soft lead expands like you wouldn't believe, and that patched round ball has plenty of oomph when sitting on top of ~100 grains of 2F black powder.

Would you rather hold 50lbs at full draw with a longbow or 20lbs at full draw with a 60% letoff compound bow?


You don't hold a longbow or recurve at full draw for any length of time. It's a different kind of shooting, something you don't seem to understand possibly because you've only ever used a wheelie bow, or if you have used a longbow or recurve it was a relatively weak target bow. You should be "on target" and releasing the arrow when you hit your anchor point:

A key to learning how to shoot a bow properly is to focus intently on the target as you draw your bow. Once your finger touches your anchor point, one must simply relax the back of their hand to release the string and let the arrow fly. It is important not to hold the bow at full draw and attempt to "aim", but rather to release the arrow as soon as your finger reaches your anchor point. How to Shoot a Bow Instinctively

If you are waiting for a deer (or burglar), you don't hold a longbow or recurve at full draw. You hold it at the ready, and you only draw when you are ready to shoot. When you do shoot, you stare intently at the small point you wish to hit on the target as you draw the bow. This is called "picking a spot". When you hit your anchor point, you release. It's like throwing a baseball: You don't sit there and aim a baseball, but pretty much anyone can hit a small target with one with enough practice.

Here's your out, tell me how many deer/animals you killed in the last 10 years yada yada. I give the old man a 1 in 5 chance of hitting the kid under 20 yards, zero chance over 30 yards.


Really? If you had watched the video, he put 3 arrows into a box that is way smaller than a person at a distance that had to be at least 15 yards. Hell, at 30 yards, I can put all my shots on a target this size:

i40.tinypic.com

And I'm not even very good, at least not by my standards.

Also, I kill very few deer. Some years I don't get any, and that's on purpose: I made it harder for myself because there was no longer any challenge to using a compound bow. In fact, I made this picture as a joking commentary for just such a reason:

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I actually sold that bow last year, after it had languished in the closet for the better part of 8 years or so. I found that the ability to put arrows within a 5" circle at 45 yards made me a lazy hunter.

It's the same reason why I switched from using a scoped .30'06 bolt action rifle, that I could and did reliably hit deer with at 200+ yards with to exclusively using a flintlock longrilfe, which I wouldn't take shots at past 75 yards at the most*.

Some hunters I know, when faced with the boredom of an easy hunt, have gone a different direction and made chasing the elusive bigger trophy their way of making it more of a challenge. My motivation is much the same, it just has a different expression. So I eschew lures like doe urine, and I don't use treestands, and I use only primitive methods. And I'm getting more primitive: I'm finally starting to use arrowheads I knapped myself:

i48.tinypic.com

That one isn't quite big enough to be legal for big game in NYS, but it's representative of what I'm shifting over to. Why? To make it tougher. For the challenge.

Now, if I depended on killing a deer to eat, I'd be looking for every advantage possible, and I'd do it requiring the least amount of effort. I'd probably use a deer snare. But I'm not there, thankfully.

So you see, when I do get a deer**, even if it is a small doe, to me it is like getting a 10 point buck for someone who uses more modern methods. It is my Mount Everest.

*The gun can shoot accurately past that, but given that it has unadjustable open sights, I've limited myself to that distance. Within 75 yards, I don't have to adjust for drop. After that, I would, and I haven't shot that far enough.

**Tends to be the exception rather than the rule: I don't get out as much as I would like, usually. Between watching the littlebopper when the distaffbopper was working, and surgeries for the distaffbopper that always seem to happen in the Fall (two thyroid cancer surgeries, one abdominal, one hip replacement), I don't get anywhere near as much time to hunt as I would wish. That's life.
 
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