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(SeattlePI)   Man outraged that his ex-wife would give their daughter marijuana pills to combat the effects of her chemotherapy because it turned her into a total stoner. "All she wanted to do was lay on the bed and play video games"   (seattlepi.com ) divider line 243
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2012-11-25 11:21:20 AM  
The father, Jesse Comstock, said his concerns were prompted by a visit with Mykayla in August.
"She was stoned out of her mind," said Comstock, 26. "All she wanted to do was lay on the bed and play video games."



She probably just didn't want to talk to you. Are you an asshole? It sounds like you are an asshole.


took Mykayla to a private lab, where technicians detected THC levels of an adult daily marijuana user.

Gladstone police contacted

"It's going to limit her options in life because of the decisions her mother has made for her," he added.


I'm smelling asshole.
 
2012-11-25 11:22:45 AM  

Weaver95: Frederick: FTFA:
"She's had up to 1.2 grams of cannabis oil in 24 hours, the rough equivalent of smoking 10 joints."

Citation?

Is the implication cannabis oil is 10x stronger than cannabis?

There were several questionable statements in that article.

you could make cannabis oil 1100% stronger and it wouldn't do any permanent harm. the body uses what it can, then stores the rest in fat cells. and when THOSE fill up, it flushes the leftovers.

it's literally impossible for cannabis to damage the human body.


Considering that ld50 levels exist and have been measured, I'm going to call you out on this lie.

THC is fairly safe, but no chemical is 100% harmless. At the levels most people consume, there's nothing to worry about, but there is a point where there's enough to kill you.

Weaver, you're pretty good over on the politics tab, but please don't pretend to be an expert on toxicology.
 
2012-11-25 11:23:02 AM  

lobotomy survivor: "All she wanted to do was lay on the bed and play video games"

Sounds just like every teenager I know.


Came here to say this.

/Leaving satisfied
 
2012-11-25 11:24:23 AM  

Abox: iheartscotch: Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different?

Because it's different?

I smoked my last hit a couple days ago from my one-hitter. I used to love weed, started smoking in junior high and usage peaked in college...there was no downside, everything was just better high. A few years after college the effect on me changed and it gradually made me more and more non-functional with use, and I'd start passing out sooner, especially when combined with alcohol. The last few years the only time I'd smoke it was if I knew I was staying home and there was nothing to do that required any thought. So the other night I took a few hits, thoughts became scrambled, and I passed out about an hour later. Maybe I'm gettin' old but I'm done wit it!


Yeah, it's so different; I mean it's not like you are inhaling the gasses in the same manner or anything.

There is a causal link between smoking anything and birth defects.

Getting old sucks, huh? I used to be able to function on less than 4 hours of sleep; now I get craby if I have less then 8. Your body changes as you age; your 40 year old body may still think like it's 20, but if you do something to overexert yourself; you'll feel it in the morning.
 
2012-11-25 11:25:27 AM  

Abox: iheartscotch: Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different?

Because it's different?

I smoked my last hit a couple days ago from my one-hitter. I used to love weed, started smoking in junior high and usage peaked in college...there was no downside, everything was just better high. A few years after college the effect on me changed and it gradually made me more and more non-functional with use, and I'd start passing out sooner, especially when combined with alcohol. The last few years the only time I'd smoke it was if I knew I was staying home and there was nothing to do that required any thought. So the other night I took a few hits, thoughts became scrambled, and I passed out about an hour later. Maybe I'm gettin' old but I'm done wit it!


Interesting. Been using pot since 16 but really started using it daily about 6 years ago. I've had the exact opposite happen to me. I'm calm, able to concentrate, have energy, and have an appetite. I joke about it, but Pot helped me get through grad school and helped me cope with my sister's death. I don't know what I'd do if I had to give it up due to pregnancy :(
 
2012-11-25 11:25:38 AM  
Purchase believes marijuana heals, and credits the drug for curing her stepfather's skin cancer.
She herself is an Oregon medical marijuana patient, and her boyfriend is Mykayla's grower. She is so convinced of the drug's safety that she consumed it during the pregnancy and while breastfeeding her second child.
When her symptoms are especially bad, Mykayla's mother and her mother's boyfriend will feed her cannabis-infused food. She's had up to 1.2 grams of cannabis oil in 24 hours, the rough equivalent of smoking 10 joints.



Potheads raising potheads. Oh, how sad she has cancer, but now we have an excuse to get her on the family drug. They even lace her food with it to make sure she stays high. Insane.

The stupid is strong in these people.
 
2012-11-25 11:25:59 AM  

Weaver95: Frederick: FTFA:
"She's had up to 1.2 grams of cannabis oil in 24 hours, the rough equivalent of smoking 10 joints."

Citation?

Is the implication cannabis oil is 10x stronger than cannabis?

There were several questionable statements in that article.

you could make cannabis oil 1100% stronger and it wouldn't do any permanent harm. the body uses what it can, then stores the rest in fat cells. and when THOSE fill up, it flushes the leftovers.

it's literally impossible for cannabis THC to damage the human body.


I'm a daily smoker. Quit for a few weeks recently due to travels....and my lungs were in pretty rough shape as they cleared out. Though not all smoke is created equal, any smoke inhaled in concentrated form is going to damage the human body to some extent. Time for me to get a vaporizer.

THC is definitely fairly harmless. Extrapolating the ld50 for mice would indicate that around 33 grams of pure THC would be needed to kill 50% of 150 lb humans.
 
2012-11-25 11:26:04 AM  

Albinoman: Turns out that study has actually been done. It was done in Jamaica since it needs to be socially acceptable. Turned out the not only did it not seem to have negative effects on the child, but it seemed to slightly improve intelligence.


Well I'm sold, after reading that well-documented claim.
 
2012-11-25 11:26:18 AM  

Weaver95: Frederick: FTFA:
"She's had up to 1.2 grams of cannabis oil in 24 hours, the rough equivalent of smoking 10 joints."

Citation?

Is the implication cannabis oil is 10x stronger than cannabis?

There were several questionable statements in that article.

you could make cannabis oil 1100% stronger and it wouldn't do any permanent harm. the body uses what it can, then stores the rest in fat cells. and when THOSE fill up, it flushes the leftovers.

it's literally impossible for cannabis to damage the human body.


That's a silly assertion. There is an LD50 for every substance, hell, enough water will kill a person.
 
2012-11-25 11:26:45 AM  
iheartscotch:, Seriously? She smoked while pregnant? And no one has called child protective services? There's a causal link between smoking anything and birth defects.

Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different? Might as well start shooting crystal meth and black tar heroin into your eye balls,
.


They might be different because they're completely different chemicals that the user's ingesting, maybe?

The thing in the article that stood out to me was the complete lack of any actual medical opinion, other than the 'some doctors say,' which is pretty much complete baloney.
 
2012-11-25 11:27:43 AM  

iheartscotch: Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different?


Everyone knows you're not supposed to drink wine while pregnant; why would grape juice be any different?
 
2012-11-25 11:28:28 AM  

Albinoman: iheartscotch: Seriously? She smoked while pregnant? And no one has called child protective services? There's a causal link between smoking anything and birth defects.

Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different? Might as well start shooting crystal meth and black tar heroin into your eye balls,

I had the same argument with a guy at work (I thought it was irresponsible that my mother smoked pot while pregnant with me). He played devils advocate. Turns out that study has actually been done. It was done in Jamaica since it needs to be socially acceptable. Turned out the not only did it not seem to have negative effects on the child, but it seemed to slightly improve intelligence.


Rat and mouse tests have shown no teratogenic effects, so I'm going with it likely isn't going to cause birth defects.

/Of course, tholidamide also didn't show any effects in rats and mice when originally tested.
 
2012-11-25 11:29:01 AM  

Albinoman: iheartscotch: Seriously? She smoked while pregnant? And no one has called child protective services? There's a causal link between smoking anything and birth defects.

Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different? Might as well start shooting crystal meth and black tar heroin into your eye balls,

I had the same argument with a guy at work (I thought it was irresponsible that my mother smoked pot while pregnant with me). He played devils advocate. Turns out that study has actually been done. It was done in Jamaica since it needs to be socially acceptable. Turned out the not only did it not seem to have negative effects on the child, but it seemed to slightly improve intelligence.


Jamaica? Call me crazy, but, I don't think of Jamaica as a place of medical advancement.

That may be right, who knows? I'd be interested to see if they stayed with the kids for 20 years and observed if any of them had lingering health problems.
 
2012-11-25 11:29:47 AM  

LordOfThePings: iheartscotch: Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different?

Everyone knows you're not supposed to drink wine while pregnant; why would grape juice be any different?


Grape juice messes with your mind and gets you drunk like pot messes with you mind and gets you high? I never know that.

/this orange is vastly superior to this apple
 
2012-11-25 11:30:39 AM  

themindiswatching: As opposed to the chemotherapy's side effects, right?


From the commercials I've seen, chemotherapy just makes you want to take up kick boxing and horseback riding and tennis.. not a bad gig I guess.
 
Ehh
2012-11-25 11:30:58 AM  
Ahem: All she wanted to do was lie on the bed. Set a better example, Dad.
 
2012-11-25 11:31:37 AM  

mekki: this orange is vastly superior to this apple


Exactly the point.
 
2012-11-25 11:32:27 AM  

iheartscotch: Albinoman: iheartscotch: Seriously? She smoked while pregnant? And no one has called child protective services? There's a causal link between smoking anything and birth defects.

Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different? Might as well start shooting crystal meth and black tar heroin into your eye balls,

I had the same argument with a guy at work (I thought it was irresponsible that my mother smoked pot while pregnant with me). He played devils advocate. Turns out that study has actually been done. It was done in Jamaica since it needs to be socially acceptable. Turned out the not only did it not seem to have negative effects on the child, but it seemed to slightly improve intelligence.

Jamaica? Call me crazy, but, I don't think of Jamaica as a place of medical advancement.

That may be right, who knows? I'd be interested to see if they stayed with the kids for 20 years and observed if any of them had lingering health problems.


Wait, you said "kids." He said "child." Was there only one subject? If so, it's a worthless study.
 
2012-11-25 11:33:22 AM  
All I got from the dad's panty-wringing is that cancer never has the ability to turn fatal and that chemotherapy is good for the body. No wonder he doesn't have custody.
 
2012-11-25 11:35:25 AM  
1938 called, wants its war on drugs back. I say we cooperate.
 
2012-11-25 11:35:51 AM  

LordOfThePings: iheartscotch: Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different?

Everyone knows you're not supposed to drink wine while pregnant; why would grape juice be any different?


Hey now! Smoking is still smoking; it is known that smoking cigarettes is causal in birth defects. Why risk it? It could be harmless, but, how would you feel if that child had any adverse effects?

I don't know, one way or the other; but it seems like an unnecessary risk.
 
2012-11-25 11:36:41 AM  

raerae1980: Abox: iheartscotch: Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different?

Because it's different?

I smoked my last hit a couple days ago from my one-hitter. I used to love weed, started smoking in junior high and usage peaked in college...there was no downside, everything was just better high. A few years after college the effect on me changed and it gradually made me more and more non-functional with use, and I'd start passing out sooner, especially when combined with alcohol. The last few years the only time I'd smoke it was if I knew I was staying home and there was nothing to do that required any thought. So the other night I took a few hits, thoughts became scrambled, and I passed out about an hour later. Maybe I'm gettin' old but I'm done wit it!

Interesting. Been using pot since 16 but really started using it daily about 6 years ago. I've had the exact opposite happen to me. I'm calm, able to concentrate, have energy, and have an appetite. I joke about it, but Pot helped me get through grad school and helped me cope with my sister's death. I don't know what I'd do if I had to give it up due to pregnancy :(


Do you have ADD or ADHD? I haven't looked into it for THC, but I do know that when you help a person with ADD calm down a bit, they're able to concentrate more.
 
2012-11-25 11:36:51 AM  

tukatz: Potheads raising potheads. Oh, how sad she has cancer, but now we have an excuse to get her on the family drug. They even lace her food with it to make sure she stays high. Insane.

The stupid is strong in these people.



But not as stupid a delusional religious crackpots thinking 'God' will cure their child by denying them medical treatment, prolonging their suffering.
 
2012-11-25 11:36:56 AM  

iheartscotch: Hey now! Smoking is still smoking; it is known that smoking cigarettes is causal in birth defects. Why risk it? It could be harmless, but, how would you feel if that child had any adverse effects?


Yeah, and where does it say she smoked it?
 
2012-11-25 11:37:04 AM  

mgshamster: Weaver95: Frederick: FTFA:
"She's had up to 1.2 grams of cannabis oil in 24 hours, the rough equivalent of smoking 10 joints."

Citation?

Is the implication cannabis oil is 10x stronger than cannabis?

There were several questionable statements in that article.

you could make cannabis oil 1100% stronger and it wouldn't do any permanent harm. the body uses what it can, then stores the rest in fat cells. and when THOSE fill up, it flushes the leftovers.

it's literally impossible for cannabis to damage the human body.

Considering that ld50 levels exist and have been measured, I'm going to call you out on this lie.

THC is fairly safe, but no chemical is 100% harmless. At the levels most people consume, there's nothing to worry about, but there is a point where there's enough to kill you.

Weaver, you're pretty good over on the politics tab, but please don't pretend to be an expert on toxicology.


LD50 levels are impossible to achieve by smoking due to metabolization during the time period needed and due to needed to breathe oxygen as well.
 
2012-11-25 11:37:10 AM  

mgshamster: Albinoman: iheartscotch: Seriously? She smoked while pregnant? And no one has called child protective services? There's a causal link between smoking anything and birth defects.

/Of course, tholidamide also didn't show any effects in rats and mice when originally tested.


That is exactly why I, personally, would err on the side of 'Yeah I'm not doing that because I'm not sure it is safe.' It is only 9 months, not the rest of your life.

Testing on rats and mice are one step of MANY steps in the process of determining if substances are safe. They thought that giving CT scans to kids was okay, now they're thinking that they should be avoided unless absolutely necessary since they can cause cancer.

Plus, there are little things- they have shown that watching TV can alter a infant or toddler's development. So I don't think it is a stretch to think that something else that may not physically harm them could change the development of their brain.
 
2012-11-25 11:37:59 AM  

netweavr:
That's a silly assertion. There is an LD50 for every substance, hell, enough water will kill a person.


do you know what sort of levels we're talking about here? cannabis is, for all practical purposes, harmless. I suppose that if you strapped someone down and force fed them pot brownies for a month then maybe there might possibly be some adverse aftereffects...but mostly they'd just get fat from the other ingredients in the brownies.
 
2012-11-25 11:38:49 AM  

iheartscotch: LordOfThePings: iheartscotch: Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different?

Everyone knows you're not supposed to drink wine while pregnant; why would grape juice be any different?

Hey now! Smoking is still smoking; it is known that smoking cigarettes is causal in birth defects. Why risk it? It could be harmless, but, how would you feel if that child had any adverse effects?

I don't know, one way or the other; but it seems like an unnecessary risk.


It's known that inhaling cigarette smoke is causal in birth defects. Why risk it? Who knows what inhaling oxygen could do?
 
2012-11-25 11:39:21 AM  

mgshamster: Do you have ADD or ADHD?


I dunno. Never was tested for it. I used to abuse Ritalin back when I was a teenager. Found that it helped me concentrate on homework and such, so maybe?
 
2012-11-25 11:39:44 AM  

dersk: iheartscotch:, Seriously? She smoked while pregnant? And no one has called child protective services? There's a causal link between smoking anything and birth defects.

Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different? Might as well start shooting crystal meth and black tar heroin into your eye balls,
.

They might be different because they're completely different chemicals that the user's ingesting, maybe?

The thing in the article that stood out to me was the complete lack of any actual medical opinion, other than the 'some doctors say,' which is pretty much complete baloney.


Still; smoking cigarettes is known to cause birth defects. Why risk smoking pot if it could hurt the unborn child?

I agree; I'm kind of wondering if the mom has gone off the deep end; and if dad does actually have a point.
 
2012-11-25 11:41:59 AM  

offmymeds: FTA: "She was stoned out of her mind," said Comstock, 26. "All she wanted to do was lay on the bed and play video games."

Dude, she's like, SEVEN YEARS OLD! What's she supposed to be doing? Checking the want ads for work? Lay off, nitwit.


There are some who think sick people should just lie around in bed all day. Doctors overprescribing, I say. Sick people can perform useful work as doorstops, paperweights, wheel chocks, the list is endless. In a disaster, the desperately ill can be used as sandbags. Hurricane Sandy would have been nothing more than an abnormally high tide if the deathly ill among us were no longer molly-coddled by overedumacated doctors.

Get them out of the hospital, let the fresh air get in those stitches.
 
2012-11-25 11:42:17 AM  

MoronLessOff: lobotomy survivor: "All she wanted to do was lay on the bed and play video games"

Sounds just like every teenager I know.

No shiat. The night I got Dragon Force for the Saturn, I ordered a pizza and didn't stop playing until the morning sun was coming through the window.


Pff, noob. You let a little thing like dawn stop your gaming marathons?
 
2012-11-25 11:42:21 AM  

themindiswatching: As opposed to the chemotherapy's side effects, right?


exactly. if she's taking her treatments and feels like playing games then that's better than just laying in bed doing nothing.
 
2012-11-25 11:44:07 AM  

mgshamster: Albinoman: iheartscotch: Seriously? She smoked while pregnant? And no one has called child protective services? There's a causal link between smoking anything and birth defects.

Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different? Might as well start shooting crystal meth and black tar heroin into your eye balls,

I had the same argument with a guy at work (I thought it was irresponsible that my mother smoked pot while pregnant with me). He played devils advocate. Turns out that study has actually been done. It was done in Jamaica since it needs to be socially acceptable. Turned out the not only did it not seem to have negative effects on the child, but it seemed to slightly improve intelligence.

Rat and mouse tests have shown no teratogenic effects, so I'm going with it likely isn't going to cause birth defects.

/Of course, tholidamide also didn't show any effects in rats and mice when originally tested.


Thalidomide was an abortive in rats and mice. At least one of the enantiomers was, but I can't remember if it was R- or S-Thalidomide. Either way it was the same one that caused mutations and prevented miscarriage in humans.
 
2012-11-25 11:45:12 AM  

LordOfThePings: iheartscotch: Hey now! Smoking is still smoking; it is known that smoking cigarettes is causal in birth defects. Why risk it? It could be harmless, but, how would you feel if that child had any adverse effects?

Yeah, and where does it say she smoked it?


It doesn't. I don't know if she did or not; I still think that ingesting drugs while pregnant is a bad idea.

During the later stages of pregnancy; you are not supposed to take perscribed medicine, like pain pills and allergy stuff.

I'm not saying pot is bad; I'm saying the best time to be smoking/ingesting pot is not while you are pregnant
 
2012-11-25 11:45:14 AM  

machodonkeywrestler: mgshamster: Weaver95: Frederick: FTFA:
"She's had up to 1.2 grams of cannabis oil in 24 hours, the rough equivalent of smoking 10 joints."

Citation?

Is the implication cannabis oil is 10x stronger than cannabis?

There were several questionable statements in that article.

you could make cannabis oil 1100% stronger and it wouldn't do any permanent harm. the body uses what it can, then stores the rest in fat cells. and when THOSE fill up, it flushes the leftovers.

it's literally impossible for cannabis to damage the human body.

Considering that ld50 levels exist and have been measured, I'm going to call you out on this lie.

THC is fairly safe, but no chemical is 100% harmless. At the levels most people consume, there's nothing to worry about, but there is a point where there's enough to kill you.

Weaver, you're pretty good over on the politics tab, but please don't pretend to be an expert on toxicology.

LD50 levels are impossible to achieve by smoking due to metabolization during the time period needed and due to needed to breathe oxygen as well.


*blink*

First off, there are other means to get THC in the body rather than smoking it. Second, metabolism is not quick, otherwise we wouldn't see THC levels in the body up to approximately a month post ingestion.

The point of my statement was to counter the "literally cannot harm a human" statement. Sure, it's unlikely to cause harm, but to claim that it literally cannot is too much.
 
2012-11-25 11:45:28 AM  

crozzo: offmymeds: FTA: "She was stoned out of her mind," said Comstock, 26. "All she wanted to do was lay on the bed and play video games."

Dude, she's like, SEVEN YEARS OLD! What's she supposed to be doing? Checking the want ads for work? Lay off, nitwit.

There are some who think sick people should just lie around in bed all day. Doctors overprescribing, I say. Sick people can perform useful work as doorstops, paperweights, wheel chocks, the list is endless. In a disaster, the desperately ill can be used as sandbags. Hurricane Sandy would have been nothing more than an abnormally high tide if the deathly ill among us were no longer molly-coddled by overedumacated doctors.

Get them out of the hospital, let the fresh air get in those stitches.


Still sore you lost the election eh, Mitt?
 
2012-11-25 11:46:05 AM  

Weaver95: it's literally impossible for cannabis to damage the human body.


If you had enough plants you could suffocate someone with them. Or drown them in the oil. Although that would be a lot of oil.
 
2012-11-25 11:46:19 AM  

raerae1980: Abox: iheartscotch: Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different?

Because it's different?

I smoked my last hit a couple days ago from my one-hitter. I used to love weed, started smoking in junior high and usage peaked in college...there was no downside, everything was just better high. A few years after college the effect on me changed and it gradually made me more and more non-functional with use, and I'd start passing out sooner, especially when combined with alcohol. The last few years the only time I'd smoke it was if I knew I was staying home and there was nothing to do that required any thought. So the other night I took a few hits, thoughts became scrambled, and I passed out about an hour later. Maybe I'm gettin' old but I'm done wit it!

Interesting. Been using pot since 16 but really started using it daily about 6 years ago. I've had the exact opposite happen to me. I'm calm, able to concentrate, have energy, and have an appetite. I joke about it, but Pot helped me get through grad school and helped me cope with my sister's death. I don't know what I'd do if I had to give it up due to pregnancy :(



So you use pot to feel normal? That actually sounds kinda lame. Does it get you high at all?
 
2012-11-25 11:47:14 AM  
tukatz: Potheads raising potheads. Oh, how sad she has cancer, but now we have an excuse to get her on the family drug. They even lace her food with it to make sure she stays high. Insane.

The stupid is strong in these people.

Call me crazy, but I'd much rather have the kid stoned out of her gourd 24/7 than living with the effects of chemo. I've seen a kid going through chemo, and it ain't pretty.
 
2012-11-25 11:47:21 AM  
Ex-husbands are always a reliable and unbiased source for newspaper articles.
 
2012-11-25 11:49:56 AM  
FTA: "She's not terminally ill," Comstock said. "She is going to get over this..."

According to the article, the girl has leukemia, but is in remission. I was not aware that leukemia was something you "get over".

Mom sounds like a stoner. Dad sounds like dick. Kid seems like a kid with cancer who is doing her best to try to behave like a normal kid with cancer. Would be nice to hear she "gets over it", but I wouldn't bet the pot farm on it.
 
2012-11-25 11:50:27 AM  

red5ish: Wasn't there a study recently that showed marijuana use by young teens inhibited brain development. Because that would explain a lot of - look a cow!


This is a valid question. What, if anything, is known about the effect of THC on developing young brains? Both pro- and anti-marijuana factions are dogmatic about this sort of thing, and tend to base their statements on ideology rather than quantitative data.

Also, what is the scoop on the various derivatives and variants of THC that I read about from time to time? Supposedly there are some that have the medical benefits of THC (whatever those are supposed to be) without the recreational properties, leaving people more "functional". Perhaps one of those might be better for a child?

I expect that at some point that one of the non-recreational derivatives will become a prescription drug, and the federal government's policy will be "If you really need marijuana for medical purposes and aren't just looking to get high, OK, fine, here is your medical version."
 
2012-11-25 11:50:34 AM  

Landis: mgshamster: Albinoman: iheartscotch: Seriously? She smoked while pregnant? And no one has called child protective services? There's a causal link between smoking anything and birth defects.

Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different? Might as well start shooting crystal meth and black tar heroin into your eye balls,

I had the same argument with a guy at work (I thought it was irresponsible that my mother smoked pot while pregnant with me). He played devils advocate. Turns out that study has actually been done. It was done in Jamaica since it needs to be socially acceptable. Turned out the not only did it not seem to have negative effects on the child, but it seemed to slightly improve intelligence.

Rat and mouse tests have shown no teratogenic effects, so I'm going with it likely isn't going to cause birth defects.

/Of course, tholidamide also didn't show any effects in rats and mice when originally tested.

Thalidomide was an abortive in rats and mice. At least one of the enantiomers was, but I can't remember if it was R- or S-Thalidomide. Either way it was the same one that caused mutations and prevented miscarriage in humans.


Doesn't matter which enantiomer. It interconverts in the body, so if you take one, then you will have the other.

And I'm pretty sure the original research showed it to be harmless (which shows more to the lack of good methodology than anything about the chemical itself). Of course, later research revealed the problems, but the original I don't believe did.
 
2012-11-25 11:55:41 AM  

iheartscotch: Seriously? She smoked while pregnant?


iheartscotch: There is a causal link between smoking anything and birth defects.


iheartscotch: Hey now! Smoking is still smoking


iheartscotch: Why risk smoking pot if it could hurt the unborn child?


iheartscotch: I don't know if she did or not


I like you; you're funny.
 
2012-11-25 11:56:30 AM  
Iv'e been undergoing chemotherapy for the past six months,the effects are cumulative.
The first few months it's not too bad,but then it gets worse,there are days when I don't have the energy to do much.
I'm almost done,then I can get back to some semblance of normality.
By the way,when they administer the chemo IV the nurse wears a protective gown and mask,I asled why,
she said that the chemo would burn through thier clothes and burn thier skin,also if spilled ,a hazmat crew needs to come in to clean
it.
Fun stuff.
 
2012-11-25 11:56:46 AM  

Abox: raerae1980: Abox: iheartscotch: Everyone knows that you aren't supposed to smoke cigarettes while pregnant; why would pot be any different?

Because it's different?

I smoked my last hit a couple days ago from my one-hitter. I used to love weed, started smoking in junior high and usage peaked in college...there was no downside, everything was just better high. A few years after college the effect on me changed and it gradually made me more and more non-functional with use, and I'd start passing out sooner, especially when combined with alcohol. The last few years the only time I'd smoke it was if I knew I was staying home and there was nothing to do that required any thought. So the other night I took a few hits, thoughts became scrambled, and I passed out about an hour later. Maybe I'm gettin' old but I'm done wit it!

Interesting. Been using pot since 16 but really started using it daily about 6 years ago. I've had the exact opposite happen to me. I'm calm, able to concentrate, have energy, and have an appetite. I joke about it, but Pot helped me get through grad school and helped me cope with my sister's death. I don't know what I'd do if I had to give it up due to pregnancy :(


So you use pot to feel normal? That actually sounds kinda lame. Does it get you high at all?


That's kind of the point of medical marijuana. Help you feel normal. And yes, even when you're using it for that, if you have enough, you still get high :)
 
2012-11-25 11:57:30 AM  
So, I guess this means those fields are gonna plow themselves, right little Miss Hippy?
 
2012-11-25 11:58:03 AM  

doglover: Oil is not 10 times stronger, it's concentrated to an unknown level above the leaves but the strength of the THC is the same


"Vodka is not 10x stronger; it's concentrated to an unknown level above beer, but the strength of the alcohol is the same."

See how that works? Yes, THC is THC, but if you have more of it per unit weight (or volume, either one works) then any reasonable person would call that "stronger".
 
2012-11-25 11:58:12 AM  

Frederick: FTFA:
"She's had up to 1.2 grams of cannabis oil in 24 hours, the rough equivalent of smoking 10 joints."

Citation?

Is the implication cannabis oil is 10x stronger than cannabis?

There were several questionable statements in that article.


Probably written by a stoner.
 
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