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(Some Guy)   Before you go admiring Black Friday campers for their selfless gift shopping, you might want to know most of them are buying for themselves   (npdgroupblog.com) divider line 38
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2012-11-25 02:30:49 AM
I have literally never heard anyone anywhere admire black friday shoppers for their selflessness, but OK. sure. Whatever.

/Before you go admiring Bing Crosby for his tireless dedication to raising a child with clear rules, you might want to know that he was abusive.
 
2012-11-25 05:34:19 AM
You can't very well celebrate the birth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ esq. without shiatty Chinese electronics made in slave camps and sold by an unambitious, underpaid and uneducated work force in stores owned by the richest, greediest and most vicious (and I mean that in its dictionary definition AND its biblical connotations) people on the planet.

And if you can run really fast and swear in Spanish you might have better luck.

Fark me... The more I think about Black Friday, the more it sickens me. The first person to say anything to me about "The War On Christmas ™" or "keeping Christ in Christmas" is going to get a mouth full of loose teeth, because you know goddamn good and well that they participated in this bullshiat. Fark 'em. Fark every single farking one of them in the ass. I hope there's a God, and I hope these people meet their God, and that their God beats the shiat out of them for eternity. AMEN.

This was my first year working in retail after teaching for a decade. I had to be at the store extra early and put up with stupid, troglodytic, philistine pigs all farking day. I guarantee that I didn't deal with a single person with an IQ anywhere near triple digits.

/i actually feel better after writing that. how cathartic.
 
2012-11-25 05:37:54 AM
And what kills me the most is we didn't even have any Black Friday deals. No special sales whatsoever. WTF? We're not Wal-Mart. I work at a Verizon retailer and we extended our hours just because everybody else did. fark.

FARK!

/ok, end rant.
//hope to be teaching again next year.
 
2012-11-25 07:32:04 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: And what kills me the most is we didn't even have any Black Friday deals. No special sales whatsoever. WTF? We're not Wal-Mart. I work at a Verizon retailer and we extended our hours just because everybody else did. fark.

FARK!

/ok, end rant.
//hope to be teaching again next year.


I pity you for having to go from one thankless job to arguably the most thankless job. The tsa is hiring in phoenix. Is that better or worse than retail?

I also sincerely agree that no one who shops on black friday is the smartest cookie in the box. One if my coworkers has noticed that the week before christmas has the same deals as black friday at nearly every store chain, most notably walmart.
 
2012-11-25 07:50:09 AM
i admire a lot of things. Don't tell me what to do.

*goes and admires a trashcan*
 
2012-11-25 08:05:27 AM
I wasn't aware people actually thought those people were buying gifts.
 
2012-11-25 08:46:18 AM

AlgertMan: I wasn't aware people actually thought those people were buying gifts.


This. People don't punch each other in the aisles over $5 pairs of headphones that they're buying for someone else. Black "Friday" is the kind of immediate and complete betrayal of the purpose of Thanksgiving that only Americans could invent.
 
2012-11-25 08:46:50 AM
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Here you've put me in a tough situation: I can't honestly decide whether to say, "Duh," uh, "Doy," or a very sarcastic, "Oh, really?" 
 
2012-11-25 08:58:14 AM
Someone on the news was asking people if it wasn't a little ironic that on the day after we give thanks for all that we have we go nuts so we can buy moar shiat.
 
2012-11-25 09:05:23 AM

Happy Hours: Someone on the news was asking people if it wasn't a little ironic that on the day after we give thanks for all that we have we go nuts so we can buy moar shiat.


Did they also get kicked in the crotch? I am sure that had to have happened.
 
2012-11-25 09:31:09 AM
The only person who shops on Black Friday that I admire is my much younger sister-in-law and I can't say it's because she shops on Black Friday. She has softened my disdain for people who shop on Black Friday though because I've never before met anyone with so much enthusiasm for it. She gets so excited she starts jumping around the living room yelling out, what are to me unintelligible, football commands/phrases. She describes Black Friday shopping as a "contact sport" and declares "I love it!"

She and my brother negotiate what she's allowed to spend on Black Friday in advance. He says she does sometimes land incredibly good deals on stuff for the kids. I can tell her pre-shopping mania worries the hell out of him, but if he tried to keep her from going she'd be crushed and he'd be trapped in the house with her and all her energy. I think he reasons it's better to turn her loose on the retail world one day out of the year.

She's the only person I've ever met that can get that wound up for gross consumerism and make it seem quirky-cute.
 
2012-11-25 09:39:02 AM
I think we should move Christmas to black Friday. That's what people farking worship, so we might as well celebrate the birth of their Savior that day.

Or, make Christmas day the biggest shopping day of the year. Deals so good, you'll trample your OWN kids! Then they can gorge themselves on a giant feast, and throw the uneaten food in the trash.

It's what the Lord would have wanted.
 
2012-11-25 09:44:38 AM
I don't buy shiat I don't need, and I rarely buy gifts for other people anymore. I don't own a credit card or waste my money. I guess I don't have a place in the US anymore.
 
2012-11-25 09:48:10 AM
Don't people realize that a majority of the Black Friday sales (aside from White Buffalo objects such as iPads and what not) are just their usual closeout, clearance stuff. I was driving Saturday morning and heard an ad for a $29 camera and figured, what the heck I'll check it out. It was the shiattiest of the shiatty Vivitar with cartoon icons on the back. While I was there checking photography and camera websites to compare shots and features with other models two employees came up and tried to sell me these cameras based on, "It's got wi-fi" or "Ladies will love this" or "This is an amazing camera." We're talking about $69 point and shoots. I made a point that I had a DSLR at home and a smartphone with a camera and I was looking for something specific. It didn't quite register and they moseyed off. If all brick and mortar stores are like that, cheap products with uninformed staff, no wonder the internet will win.
 
2012-11-25 09:54:46 AM

Mawson of the Antarctic: Don't people realize that a majority of the Black Friday sales (aside from White Buffalo objects such as iPads and what not) are just their usual closeout, clearance stuff. I was driving Saturday morning and heard an ad for a $29 camera and figured, what the heck I'll check it out. It was the shiattiest of the shiatty Vivitar with cartoon icons on the back. While I was there checking photography and camera websites to compare shots and features with other models two employees came up and tried to sell me these cameras based on, "It's got wi-fi" or "Ladies will love this" or "This is an amazing camera." We're talking about $69 point and shoots. I made a point that I had a DSLR at home and a smartphone with a camera and I was looking for something specific. It didn't quite register and they moseyed off. If all brick and mortar stores are like that, cheap products with uninformed staff, no wonder the internet will win.


Yeah, I always notice that the brand of TV's that go on sale on Black Friday are the crappy off-brands that no one ever hears of. They're never the good brands like LG or Samsung so why the hell would I buy a TV on Black Friday anyway?
 
2012-11-25 09:59:21 AM

Jaws_Victim: ecmoRandomNumbers: And what kills me the most is we didn't even have any Black Friday deals. No special sales whatsoever. WTF? We're not Wal-Mart. I work at a Verizon retailer and we extended our hours just because everybody else did. fark.

FARK!

/ok, end rant.
//hope to be teaching again next year.

I pity you for having to go from one thankless job to arguably the most thankless job. The tsa is hiring in phoenix. Is that better or worse than retail?

I also sincerely agree that no one who shops on black friday is the smartest cookie in the box. One if my coworkers has noticed that the week before christmas has the same deals as black friday at nearly every store chain, most notably walmart.


I have always had better luck the last two weeks before Christmas and, besides any online shopping I did earlier, try to wait until them to go to the malls. There is nothing that will make me go any further than the grocery on that day - fark 'em...I refuse to fight that hot mess of crazy.
 
2012-11-25 10:01:20 AM

Mrtraveler01: Mawson of the Antarctic: Don't people realize that a majority of the Black Friday sales (aside from White Buffalo objects such as iPads and what not) are just their usual closeout, clearance stuff. I was driving Saturday morning and heard an ad for a $29 camera and figured, what the heck I'll check it out. It was the shiattiest of the shiatty Vivitar with cartoon icons on the back. While I was there checking photography and camera websites to compare shots and features with other models two employees came up and tried to sell me these cameras based on, "It's got wi-fi" or "Ladies will love this" or "This is an amazing camera." We're talking about $69 point and shoots. I made a point that I had a DSLR at home and a smartphone with a camera and I was looking for something specific. It didn't quite register and they moseyed off. If all brick and mortar stores are like that, cheap products with uninformed staff, no wonder the internet will win.

Yeah, I always notice that the brand of TV's that go on sale on Black Friday are the crappy off-brands that no one ever hears of. They're never the good brands like LG or Samsung so why the hell would I buy a TV on Black Friday anyway?


I dunno man.. there is some good quality in those Sorny, magnafox and Panaphonix brands!
 
2012-11-25 10:03:38 AM
I work part time for Lego (mainly for the discount)...
we were open at midnight, along with about 30 other retailers in our mall (mainly to piggy back off of Sears and Macy's)... Most people were shopping for their kids...
We had a scratch off coupon at the register, 10%, 20% or 50% of yr total order... at 12:15a, one lady received the first 50% off coupon.. so, instead of the two items she bought.. she walked out with 10 HUGE bags full off items... She bought stuff for her kids, her nieces and nephews, items for an upcoming school carnival, etc... she made me smile

later in the evening/morning, a man came in and bought $1400 worth of Star Wars Legos, just for himself... got 10% off his order... I couldn't figure out why he came in our store, 3am, no other purchases, to buy stuff he was already going to buy for himself... the items he bought were not on sale and he had no idea we had the whole scratch off thing going on...

Made me wonder if the mall was open all night all year, what random people we would get in...
 
2012-11-25 10:12:10 AM
One of the best things I've done is quitting gift-exchanges.

People will think I'm trolling or whatever, but really, it's great. I don't give gifts for special occasions or holidays. I don't solicit or accept gifts either.
 
2012-11-25 10:12:13 AM
I admire Black Friday shoppers the same way I admire trailer park welfare recipients, high school dropouts, people who marry their first cousins, and NASCAR fans.
 
2012-11-25 10:22:07 AM
Forced and expected gift exchanging is something I've viewed as increasingly stupid as I've grown older. As a kid I knew what to buy my brothers and the gesture alone was a gift to my parents (I assume-because all they ever got was crap). My parents knew what I wanted because we gave them lists.

With a significant other you know the person very well and spend so much time with them that it isn't impossible to find them something nice.

But for a decade now 90% of gifts exchanged between my immediate family are things that are a worse fit than what we would buy for ourselves, and thus nothing more than a waste of money. Before you say its the thought that counts and thus justifies the whole process: I don't need someone to open their wallet to know they are thinking about me or care about it.

Then you factor in differences in wallet size... If I spend too much I know I've made people feel bad (I dropped 50 in an extended family gift exchange and multiple people made comments to me about how I shouldn't have done that). If I spend too little I'm buying someone a piece of crap that they don't want. Oooo have a spice rack from walmart. Ya, because people really want that.

So our extended family switched to a white elephant gifting process. Which is kind of neat, but I found out this year that half my family has been giving one another ideas for more personalized items to put into the pool and then ensuring that they get them and exchanging them. WTF.

And with all that, I'm the bad guy every time I recommend we just end it all. I don't want to feel bad for not giving someone the right gift, I don't want to make others feel less loved because of how poorly the gift I manage to scrounge up turns out. I don't want people mad at me for making their gift look bad if I do manage to find something (I utterly fail at finding cheap gifts that I think people would like. I see cheap gifts and all I can think is "they won't like this" and then I end up buying it because I'm not supposed to drop another 20 bucks to make it something they'll use and like? How stupid).

I know I'm not alone in viewing the gifts as pretty mediocre all the way around, but I'm the only with the balls to admit it.

Gifts are for kids, wives, and husbands. ymmv
 
2012-11-25 10:35:04 AM
Obvious tag standing in for yet-to-be-perfected No shiat tag.
 
2012-11-25 10:35:48 AM
Before you go admiring Black Friday campers

There is no chance of that ever happening.
 
2012-11-25 11:18:29 AM
I do the same thing, except I purchase from the comfort of my home where I have beer and a bathroom. Good luck, vagrant people. Hope that $20 you saved was worth it.
 
2012-11-25 11:38:06 AM

sararenne: later in the evening/morning, a man came in and bought $1400 worth of Star Wars Legos, just for himself... got 10% off his order... I couldn't figure out why he came in our store, 3am, no other purchases, to buy stuff he was already going to buy for himself... the items he bought were not on sale and he had no idea we had the whole scratch off thing going on...


But you gotta admit, that UCS Super Star Destroyer is pretty cool. And who hasn't had a late-night urge to snap hundreds of little plastic pieces together into models?
 
2012-11-25 11:50:02 AM

NewportBarGuy: I do the same thing, except I purchase from the comfort of my home where I have beer and a bathroom. Good luck, vagrant people. Hope that $20 you saved was worth it.


You nailed it. Roku HDs online this year for $39.99 with free shipping. I'm going to be handing them out like an Oprah giveaway show.
 
2012-11-25 11:54:22 AM

lemurs: sararenne: later in the evening/morning, a man came in and bought $1400 worth of Star Wars Legos, just for himself... got 10% off his order... I couldn't figure out why he came in our store, 3am, no other purchases, to buy stuff he was already going to buy for himself... the items he bought were not on sale and he had no idea we had the whole scratch off thing going on...

But you gotta admit, that UCS Super Star Destroyer is pretty cool. And who hasn't had a late-night urge to snap hundreds of little plastic pieces together into models?


funny, he bought two of those.. and mentioned if he had received the 50% coupon, he would have purchased two Death Stars...
Yeah, it is pretty cool... not sure if $400 cool, but pretty cool...
My son is partial to the Architecture series, and the Exclusive buildings (the fire station, town hall, etc).. but him and his dad put together a Millenium falcon, recorded putting it together and put it on you tube (I think its under Falcon and the user is Cemntcat)...

/son is the reason I work there.. Lego's were starting to get expensive, needed a discount...
// only work 10 hours a week, but so worth it on the big employee discount day
 
2012-11-25 11:58:48 AM
I worked 1 Black Friday in 2004. I lost faith in humanity when I saw grown men running to grab 40% marked up items marked down 30%.


Still not sure if that or the fact there was also a Black Friday line at Big Lots is what's driving me to drink.
 
2012-11-25 12:02:04 PM
I admire the workers who cut their holidays short and put up with the crazy Black Friday idiots. The shoppers can just go fark themselves.
 
2012-11-25 12:03:47 PM

NewportBarGuy: I do the same thing, except I purchase from the comfort of my home where I have beer and a bathroom. Good luck, vagrant people. Hope that $20 you saved was worth it.


According to foxnews, the internet is something poor people shouldn't be allowed to have. Or fridges for their beer. Probably the beer too. So these black friday shoppers are just doing what they ought to do as poors: spend more time and money (both in the time wasted and the driving and such) to do what the rest of us do with less effort.

In fact, they shouldn't even have cars. They should walk a couple days and pay a ticket for sleeping on a park bench just to get to walmart. And the walmart employees shouldn't even be able to afford to shop there.

That rant isn't really directed at you, just at the mass of our population that doesn't realize that at a certain point of money things actually get cheaper. I think I would consider that a more accurate line to place a poverty type label at: the point at which your lack of money results in basic costs of living to go up relative to what you get for your money. I know poor people who are make car payments on cars that are higher than my lease but whose cars end up in the shop a few times a year.
 
2012-11-25 12:18:16 PM

taxandspend: I only worked one Black Friday at retail, but because I was new there (Sears Electronics) I didn't get the "privilege" of working the door buster deals. Had to come in in the afternoon. Still made out like a bandit in commissions.
Didn't see the worst of humanity that day. I saw it the Saturday before Christmas when a guy offered me a blowj from his girlfriend if I gave him a discount.
/end CSB


And?
 
2012-11-25 12:24:07 PM

NewportBarGuy: I do the same thing, except I purchase from the comfort of my home where I have beer and a bathroom. Good luck, vagrant people. Hope that $20 you saved was worth it.


THIS. These people are complete idiots to camp out at Best Buy for doorbusters that might ***MIGHT*** save them $100~200 on their purchases. Last year, I got my 40" and 42" HDTVs at doorbuster prices, one the week before at Target, and the other online just before "Cyber Monday". Most of Best Buy's doorbusters were available online.

Why on earth would anybody (not retarded) camp out for a week, miss Thanksgiving (and earning wages at work before hand) to "save" money getting something?

I guess subby is one of those sorts of people if it took the article to change his "admiration" of them.
 
2012-11-25 12:52:56 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: AlgertMan: I wasn't aware people actually thought those people were buying gifts.

This. People don't punch each other in the aisles over $5 pairs of headphones that they're buying for someone else. Black "Friday" is the kind of immediate and complete betrayal of the purpose of Thanksgiving that only Americans could invent.


No fights where I was at. In fact, everyone was in a pretty cheerful mood.

/bought NOTHING for myself or my wife
//kids only
/// so fark you and subby too
 
2012-11-25 03:07:22 PM

taxandspend: John Buck 41: taxandspend: I only worked one Black Friday at retail, but because I was new there (Sears Electronics) I didn't get the "privilege" of working the door buster deals. Had to come in in the afternoon. Still made out like a bandit in commissions.
Didn't see the worst of humanity that day. I saw it the Saturday before Christmas when a guy offered me a blowj from his girlfriend if I gave him a discount.
/end CSB

And?

You remember Kathy Bates in Misery? This chick was the Danny DeVito to Bates' Arnold Schwarzenegger.


So it's safe to assume you passed on the offer, eh?
 
2012-11-25 03:22:02 PM

LesserEvil: NewportBarGuy: I do the same thing, except I purchase from the comfort of my home where I have beer and a bathroom. Good luck, vagrant people. Hope that $20 you saved was worth it.

THIS. These people are complete idiots to camp out at Best Buy for doorbusters that might ***MIGHT*** save them $100~200 on their purchases. Last year, I got my 40" and 42" HDTVs at doorbuster prices, one the week before at Target, and the other online just before "Cyber Monday". Most of Best Buy's doorbusters were available online.

Why on earth would anybody (not retarded) camp out for a week, miss Thanksgiving (and earning wages at work before hand) to "save" money getting something?

I guess subby is one of those sorts of people if it took the article to change his "admiration" of them.


It's even sillier because you don't really need to camp out. I cruised in about an hour after Target opened, and I didn't find any of their doorbusters out of stock. They were even bringing out a stash of their 50" Westinghouse HDTVs that they were selling for $350, because the people in line who had gotten the tickets for them in line didn't redeem them in time, so I could have gotten one if I had wanted it. I basically just came in, grabbed the luggage that was on sale that my wife needs for our vacation in January, and then headed out with no fuss.

I did find a really good gift deal on Amazon, however, when I bought my parents the Bond 50 Blu-Ray set for $99.
 
2012-11-25 05:22:41 PM
So ... they're spending their own money that they earned on themselves ? But *I* don't have a 3D HD flat screen tv, why should *they* get one, when it's probably easier for them to buy mine than it is for me to buy mine? Perhaps we should pass some laws to take their money from them, and give it to people like me.
 
2012-11-25 05:55:48 PM

Mawson of the Antarctic: Don't people realize that a majority of the Black Friday sales (aside from White Buffalo objects such as iPads and what not) are just their usual closeout, clearance stuff. I was driving Saturday morning and heard an ad for a $29 camera and figured, what the heck I'll check it out. It was the shiattiest of the shiatty Vivitar with cartoon icons on the back. While I was there checking photography and camera websites to compare shots and features with other models two employees came up and tried to sell me these cameras based on, "It's got wi-fi" or "Ladies will love this" or "This is an amazing camera." We're talking about $69 point and shoots. I made a point that I had a DSLR at home and a smartphone with a camera and I was looking for something specific. It didn't quite register and they moseyed off. If all brick and mortar stores are like that, cheap products with uninformed staff, no wonder the internet will win.


I tip my hat to you sir for telling a Best Buy horror story without ever even using the words "Best" or "Buy".
 
2012-11-26 06:54:39 AM
I didn't buy anything.
 
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