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(Examiner)   Woman who slipped into a diabetic comma dies after 42 years, but her family never game up home. Damn you, autocorrect and pseudojournalists who can't type   (examiner.com ) divider line 140
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2012-11-24 03:29:19 PM  
..."game up home"...

What?
 
2012-11-24 03:48:18 PM  
Diabetic comma?
 
2012-11-24 04:47:06 PM  

naughtyrev: Diabetic comma?


As opposed to a diabetic period?
 
2012-11-24 04:52:05 PM  
Actual text from TFA, in case they fix it:

Wednesday, Edwarda O'Bara died after spending 42 years in a coma; O'Bara was taken care of at home by her family in Miami Gardens, Florida who never game up home that she would someday wake up. O'Bara was 16 in 1970 when she went into a diabetic coma; she became sick from her medication. Her mother Kaye said that just before she slipped into the comma she asked her to never leave her side and they didn't.
 
2012-11-24 04:59:20 PM  
How does the pooping work?
 
2012-11-24 05:00:34 PM  
What a horrible,futile existence. I'm mean I guess caring for her made her family happy but damn.
 
2012-11-24 05:00:54 PM  
*scans headline*

*eye twitch, Chief Inspector Dreyfus-style*
 
2012-11-24 05:01:24 PM  
Comma Sutra is a biatch
 
2012-11-24 05:01:42 PM  
It's nice that they never gave up home of her coming out of that comma.
 
2012-11-24 05:01:49 PM  
someone please make the tasteless 'always eat your vegetables, karen anne quinlan' joke so I don't have to

oh damn it.
 
2012-11-24 05:06:39 PM  
I'm not sure what is worse; The horrible attempt at writing an article or the story of that girl's life.
 
2012-11-24 05:06:56 PM  
" .. I is a college gradiate ... "
 
2012-11-24 05:06:59 PM  
Commas are the punctuation point most prone to diabetes. It's because they are apple-shaped and not pear-shaped like apostrophes.
 
2012-11-24 05:07:11 PM  
I just hope that she was brain dead that whole time. Imagine 42 years of being "locked in"... =(
 
2012-11-24 05:07:27 PM  
why is the first thing on that page a video that has nothing whatsoever to do with the story?
yes, both feature women and comas, but different women and different types of comas.
 
2012-11-24 05:07:52 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: How does the pooping work?


I don't think it was a typo in the story when they spoke of the parents taking two hour shifts.
 
2012-11-24 05:08:29 PM  
How does shiat like this make it past editors? They still use editors, right? We're not just publishing whatever, right?


Right?


Anyone?
 
2012-11-24 05:08:40 PM  

AbbeySomeone: I'm not sure what is worse; The horrible attempt at writing an article or the story of that girl's life.


Definitely the story. Jesus. :(
 
2012-11-24 05:10:54 PM  

ADubs86: How does shiat like this make it past editors? They still use editors, right? We're not just publishing whatever, right?


Right?


Anyone?


hahaha

No.
 
2012-11-24 05:11:44 PM  
How is comma formed?
 
2012-11-24 05:12:51 PM  
Well it's a good thing they kept her on life support for 42 years. It all worked out so well!
 
2012-11-24 05:16:36 PM  
Sad case. Just life reminding you in general that you'd better be home soon.
 
2012-11-24 05:18:06 PM  

ADubs86: How does shiat like this make it past editors? They still use editors, right? We're not just publishing whatever, right?


Right?


Anyone?


They aint no peelple whut cant spel no good no more, coz them Innertubes don't let them lern no good grandma.
 
2012-11-24 05:18:49 PM  

mongbiohazard: Well it's a good thing they kept her on life support for 42 years. It all worked out so well!


Let's be fair tho', there are people out there who can walk and talk but really aren't much more conscious than this woman was. (And just think, if you were to kill one of them you would go to jail! That's democracy for you.)
 
2012-11-24 05:21:31 PM  

Myria: I just hope that she was brain dead that whole time. Imagine 42 years of being "locked in"... =(


blu.stb.s-msn.com

S.O.S...........S.O.S............
 
2012-11-24 05:22:34 PM  
Hey you caught me in a coma
And I don't think I wanna
Ever come back to this...world again
Kinda like it in a coma
'Cause no one's ever gonna
Oh, make me come back to this...
world again
Now I feel as if I'm floating away
I can't feel all the pressure
And I like it this way
But my body's callin'
My body's callin'
Won't ya come back to this...
world again
Suspended deep in a sea of black
I've got the light at the end
I've got the bones on the mast
Well I've gone sailin',
I've gone sailin'
I could leave so easily
While friends are calling back to me
I said they're
They're leaving it all up to me
When all I needed was clarity
And someone to tell me
WHAT THE fark IS GOING ON
GODDAMN IT!
 
2012-11-24 05:24:25 PM  
From TFA:

A song was written about the family as well called "My Blessed Child."

OK, here's the thing. I don't think that families in situations like this should fall into despair, should lie prostate with grief. But, seriously, she was in a coma for 42 years. How the fark was she blessed?
 
2012-11-24 05:25:23 PM  

ADubs86: How does shiat like this make it past editors? They still use editors, right? We're not just publishing whatever, right?


Right?


Anyone?


It is the Examiner... There are no editors. As subby points out about "psudojournalists." Anyone can write for the Examiner.
 
2012-11-24 05:26:26 PM  

jake_lex: From TFA:

A song was written about the family as well called "My Blessed Child."

OK, here's the thing. I don't think that families in situations like this should fall into despair, should lie prostate with grief. But, seriously, she was in a coma for 42 years. How the fark was she blessed?


Mysterious ways, Jake. Mysterious ways...
 
2012-11-24 05:26:48 PM  
Thanks 0'Bara.
 
2012-11-24 05:26:59 PM  

Aclay420: ADubs86: How does shiat like this make it past editors? They still use editors, right? We're not just publishing whatever, right?


Right?


Anyone?

It is the Examiner... There are no editors. As subby points out about "psudojournalists." Anyone can write for the Examiner.


And the sad part is, because their writers are paid by the page view, this writer is now being rewarded for her incompetence by being greenlit here.
 
2012-11-24 05:27:13 PM  

hbk72777: Hey you caught me in a coma
And I don't think I wanna
Ever come back to this...world again
Kinda like it in a coma
'Cause no one's ever gonna
Oh, make me come back to this...
world again
Now I feel as if I'm floating away
I can't feel all the pressure
And I like it this way
But my body's callin'
My body's callin'
Won't ya come back to this...
world again
Suspended deep in a sea of black
I've got the light at the end
I've got the bones on the mast
Well I've gone sailin',
I've gone sailin'
I could leave so easily
While friends are calling back to me
I said they're
They're leaving it all up to me
When all I needed was clarity
And someone to tell me
WHAT THE fark IS GOING ON
GODDAMN IT!


great GNR song. good call
 
2012-11-24 05:27:15 PM  

jake_lex: From TFA:

A song was written about the family as well called "My Blessed Child."

OK, here's the thing. I don't think that families in situations like this should fall into despair, should lie prostate with grief. But, seriously, she was in a coma for 42 years. How the fark was she blessed?


Seriously. The family has a bit of a martyr thing going on IMHO.
 
2012-11-24 05:28:05 PM  
From the Obit, " She was always a good listener. "
 
2012-11-24 05:28:09 PM  
A song was written about the family as well called "My Blessed Child."

Actually, that's another typo. The song was called "My Blasted Coma".
 
2012-11-24 05:28:29 PM  

Aclay420: ADubs86: How does shiat like this make it past editors? They still use editors, right? We're not just publishing whatever, right?


Right?


Anyone?

It is the Examiner... There are no editors. As subby points out about "psudojournalists." Anyone can write for the Examiner.


Same reasoning applies to The Daily Fail and Radar Online .
 
2012-11-24 05:29:00 PM  

jake_lex: From TFA:

A song was written about the family as well called "My Blessed Child."

OK, here's the thing. I don't think that families in situations like this should fall into despair, should lie prostate with grief. But, seriously, she was in a coma for 42 years. How the fark was she blessed?


and what point do you just pull the plug? honestly 42years in a coma is not what i would call a blessed life.
 
2012-11-24 05:29:21 PM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

RIP Game up Homes
 
2012-11-24 05:30:37 PM  

jake_lex: From TFA:

A song was written about the family as well called "My Blessed Child."

OK, here's the thing. I don't think that families in situations like this should fall into despair, should lie prostate with grief. But, seriously, she was in a coma for 42 years. How the fark was she blessed?


Whatever floats their boat. I'm willing to bet the woman herself was pretty indifferent.
 
2012-11-24 05:32:49 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: How does the pooping work?


That's where you use a colon.
 
2012-11-24 05:36:18 PM  
Did they really think she'd pull through?

/I know, it's really serious
//Window seat, vegetarian meal, please
 
2012-11-24 05:36:20 PM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: How does the pooping work?

That's where you use a colon.


Great punctuation remark!
 
2012-11-24 05:37:33 PM  
I can't say I'd do anything differently. But I can say it would be self indulgent if I were to keep my kid alive in a coma for 42 years.
 
2012-11-24 05:37:45 PM  
Comma, comma, comma, comma, comma chameleon
Common go, common go
 
2012-11-24 05:39:44 PM  
blessed with a disability check,caregiver check,caregivers tax deduction etc??
 
2012-11-24 05:45:38 PM  
I'll bet the lawyers were lining up when they heard she slipped on a comma.
 
2012-11-24 05:46:17 PM  
42 years in a coma is way too long. At some point they should have let her go. Does anyone know how much money it takes to care for a coma patient? Per year or month?

My boyfriend jokingly said that if he was in a coma, I could pull the plug after 42 years. I told him that one year is a good enough waiting period. Provided that there isn't a huge amount of brain ischemia that makes it extremely unlikely that I will ever wake up or that I will wake up without severe brain damage and mental retardation. Even if there is a relatively low amount of damage, if it's enough to lower my IQ to 100 or less I won't want to wake up. My whole life is based on academia and being much more intelligent than most people. I would also loathe being so disabled that I have to be taken care of. That sounds depressing but I am quite fine, and it's very unlikely that I'll go into a coma. So I will keep doing what I love: studying science in general and biology in particular.
 
2012-11-24 05:47:46 PM  
"A Promise is a Promise: An Almost Unbelievable Story of a Mother's Unconditional Love and What It Can Teach Us."

That you just completely wasted 42 years.
 
2012-11-24 05:48:43 PM  
If she had any sort of consciousness or self awareness for those 42 years I can't image more a horrible hell then she had to endure. Imagine spending 42 years not knowing if you're awake or dreaming come to think of it if she had her eye open and her visual cortex was working that would actually be worse because you would know what's going on all the time but unable to do anything

Let just hope she was brain dead during this whole ordeal.


But I digress. Which is the error in the article, the wrong video or the wrong story?
 
2012-11-24 05:50:02 PM  

Krieghund: I can't say I'd do anything differently. But I can say it would be self indulgent if I were to keep my kid alive in a coma for 42 years.


I'd say to her that I was going to do whatever it took to keep her alive forever and then a nurse would tell me how much life support costs and I would immediately pull the nearest plug out of the wall and yell "Check please!" And my daughter would probably wake up right then. Laughter is the best medicine.
 
2012-11-24 05:52:31 PM  

Myria: I just hope that she was brain dead that whole time. Imagine 42 years of being "locked in"... =(


That's the first thing I thought of. Gave me a bit of a shudder to think she may have been conscious the whole time.
 
2012-11-24 05:52:45 PM  

ADubs86: How does shiat like this make it past editors? They still use editors, right? We're not just publishing whatever, right?


Right?


Anyone?


I've written articles for Examiner. No, they do not use editors. It's a content farm that just goes for quantity, not quality.
 
2012-11-24 05:52:55 PM  

Myria: I just hope that she was brain dead that whole time. Imagine 42 years of being "locked in"... =(


Thanks, I'm glad somebody could make this story EVEN WORSE.
 
2012-11-24 05:53:01 PM  

fusillade762: It's nice that they never gave up home of her coming out of that comma.


It's game up home. Show some gagnam respect.
 
2012-11-24 05:54:00 PM  
Well Farkers, we have a winner for the Ultimate Attention Whore award .
 
2012-11-24 05:54:20 PM  
she could have come out of it and known aikido, I've seen Steven Segal do it.
 
2012-11-24 05:54:29 PM  
farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2012-11-24 05:57:32 PM  
REMEMBER- what if t become trapped i such a state.. you become like a tree. you MUST becme like a tree, barely and briefly awakening to stimulus. modern sounds of dull trecking or long passages of time become nil until the day your brain adjusts into some malformed sensing apparatus with no one to report to.a form of locked in syndrome until you die.
 
2012-11-24 05:58:17 PM  
worst kind of comma.
WHERE WAS THE GRAMMAR NAZIS?
 
2012-11-24 05:59:30 PM  
In school, I slipped into a comma but I blamed the period and I still got detention. Farking colons.
 
2012-11-24 05:59:48 PM  
Girlfriend in a comma
I know, I know
It's serial
 
2012-11-24 06:09:57 PM  
if the whole farking story in the link is in a video, it should be on the video page...
 
2012-11-24 06:11:55 PM  
Well, on the bright side,
she had a longer shelf life then Twinkies.
 
2012-11-24 06:12:09 PM  
When the doctor shows you the scan with no activity in the part of the brain that makes a person who they are just let them go because man, they're gone.

I have had to disconnect a loved one and it's a terrible decision to have to make. Every day I question did we give up too soon? Was there something more we could have done? Did she hear me tell her goodbye and I love you for the last time?

It farking sucks and I wish nobody ever had to experience it but 42 years of leaving someone in that state is terribly cruel and selfish.


/Knowing your loved one's wishes beforehand makes it just a little bit easier
//Off to take my anti-depression meds
 
2012-11-24 06:14:31 PM  

Nothing To See Here: Well, on the bright side,
she had a longer shelf life then Twinkies.


Than Twinkies . . .
/Otto Korrect
 
2012-11-24 06:18:41 PM  
Did she at least write 156 episodes (the bulk of the series) of Branded?

All but one man died...there at Bitter Creek.
 
2012-11-24 06:24:59 PM  
The woman was one of three subscribers to the Examiner.
 
2012-11-24 06:26:42 PM  
Now THAT'S a moral commitment.
 
2012-11-24 06:30:06 PM  

Mogani: jake_lex: From TFA:

A song was written about the family as well called "My Blessed Child."

OK, here's the thing. I don't think that families in situations like this should fall into despair, should lie prostate with grief. But, seriously, she was in a coma for 42 years. How the fark was she blessed?

and what point do you just pull the plug? honestly 42years in a coma is not what i would call a blessed life.


He it could be ..... Link
 
2012-11-24 06:34:50 PM  

you are a puppet: Myria: I just hope that she was brain dead that whole time. Imagine 42 years of being "locked in"... =(

[blu.stb.s-msn.com image 598x448]

S.O.S...........S.O.S............


'Johnny Got His Gun'?
 
2012-11-24 06:34:50 PM  
Game up home was a disappointing GIS...
mmhs.nebo.edu
/best I could do
 
2012-11-24 06:43:33 PM  
My sister recently had to take her husband off life support. It was a difficult decision because he insisted that he was fine and thinking of taking a walk.
 
2012-11-24 06:45:12 PM  
game up, homies. Nice spelling errors, idiots...
 
2012-11-24 06:46:35 PM  

ADubs86: How does shiat like this make it past editors? They still use editors, right? We're not just publishing whatever, right?

Right?

Anyone?


CSB:
I emailed DailyFail about their crap grammar. It goes as follows

Are any articles proofread before being submitted? Every Mail Online article I have read for the past 4 months has had at least 2 spelling/grammar errors in them.
For instance, I just opened an article about Brigitte Nielsen (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2183969/Brigitte-Nielsen -looks-disorientated-stumbles-LA-park-falling-asleep.html) which has several.

"Danish actress, Brigitte Nielsen cut a lonely and..." (No comma needed)
"as she wondered around the park alone" (Wandered, not wondered)
"as she stared into space, and puffed on numerous cigarettes." (Unnecessary comma)
"as she was snapped wondering around a public park in..." (Another wandered, not wondered)
"in the 80s as bombshell, Karla Fry in Beverly Hills Cop II." (Unnecessary comma)
"She then wen on to have..." (WENT, not wen)
"Rocky actor, Stallone's world was recently rocked" (What does this even mean? What about "Rocky actor?")

Are you guys intentionally butchering the English language in order to find out who reads your articles? This must be some new metrics that your marketing department has come up with.
"I know! Lets put as many spelling errors as possible in our articles, and for every email we receive about the errors, we can assume there are 8 others who haven't responded! BRILLIANT!"
I mean, I am certainly no master of the language, but my job is to write computer code and not write for a living. Why should I know more about grammar than professional writers and editors?

~~~~~~~~~
Dear Mr Stanky
Thank you for your email and for taking the time to write with your thoughts.
It may be helpful for you to know we work to extremely tight deadlines here at the MailOnline, and this can, at times, leave room for human error. We also follow a specific in-house style.
However, I will be sure to pass your comments on to our editor for his review.

Yours sincerely
Lucy Jones


So, no they don't proofread articles. And I'm pretty sure they rely on us the readers to point out grammatical errors for them.
 
2012-11-24 06:48:20 PM  
I was in a semicolon comma once, I came out of it after a period؟
 
2012-11-24 06:50:55 PM  
I've met people who were in a dianetic coma.
 
2012-11-24 06:53:21 PM  
I'm sure they had the patinet's best interest in mind for FOUR FARKIN DECADES.

Instead of doing what's right, they did what was emotionally easier.

Self-serving jerkoffs. If they ever go into a coma, I hope someone keeps them "alive" for half a century.
 
2012-11-24 06:53:58 PM  

revrendjim: I've met people who were in a dianetic coma.



Did any of them have Cruise,Travolta or Alley as surnames?
 
2012-11-24 06:56:45 PM  

illannoyin: When the doctor shows you the scan with no activity in the part of the brain that makes a person who they are just let them go because man, they're gone.


In the news, just a couple of weeks ago.

A Canadian man who was believed to have been in a vegetative state for more than a decade, has been able to tell scientists that he is not in any pain. It's the first time an uncommunicative, severely brain-injured patient has been able to give answers clinically relevant to their care. Scott Routley, 39, was asked questions while having his brain activity scanned in an fMRI machine. His doctor says the discovery means medical textbooks will need rewriting.
 
2012-11-24 06:59:21 PM  

scotchcrotch: Self-serving jerkoffs. If they ever go into a coma, I hope someone keeps them "alive" for half a century.


They point is that they didn't just keep her alive. They talked to her, read to her, played music to her; they made every effort to ensure that if the mind was functioning in there it was cared for.
 
2012-11-24 07:03:21 PM  
This chick was actually very famous. Her mother refused to leave her bedside for more than an hour or two ever, and turned her every two hours. She was supposedly highly regarded by the Catholic church as having a healing touch or some such nonsense.

Her mother said she had a visit from the Blessed Virgin one night, who told her that her daughter was a "Victim Soul" and chose her specific path in life to show others the power of faith or something. Apparently "Victim Soul" is/was a closely guarded secret phenomenon the Catholic church didn't ever really talk about, so when the Mom told a priest she had seen Mother Mary and had been told about the "Victim Soul," the priest freaked out. The mom died about ten years ago, if memory serves.

I think the daughter was on one of those "Unexplained Mysteries" type shows a couple decades ago.
 
2012-11-24 07:04:43 PM  

Apos: revrendjim: I've met people who were in a dianetic coma.


Did any of them have Cruise,Travolta or Alley as surnames?


or Elfman, Bell, Lee, Hansen, Moss...
 
2012-11-24 07:05:39 PM  

orbister: scotchcrotch: Self-serving jerkoffs. If they ever go into a coma, I hope someone keeps them "alive" for half a century.

They point is that they didn't just keep her alive. They talked to her, read to her, played music to her; they made every effort to ensure that if the mind was functioning in there it was cared for.


Ahhh ok, then they were completely in the right.

A couple years? Sure, no problem. Still plenty of hope.

In the longshot that you'd wake 40 years later, would you really want to wake up?
 
2012-11-24 07:09:48 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: This chick was actually very famous. Her mother refused to leave her bedside for more than an hour or two ever, and turned her every two hours. She was supposedly highly regarded by the Catholic church as having a healing touch or some such nonsense.

Her mother said she had a visit from the Blessed Virgin one night, who told her that her daughter was a "Victim Soul" and chose her specific path in life to show others the power of faith or something. Apparently "Victim Soul" is/was a closely guarded secret phenomenon the Catholic church didn't ever really talk about, so when the Mom told a priest she had seen Mother Mary and had been told about the "Victim Soul," the priest freaked out. The mom died about ten years ago, if memory serves.

I think the daughter was on one of those "Unexplained Mysteries" type shows a couple decades ago.


I knew martyrdom was involved in this story somewhere.
 
2012-11-24 07:10:02 PM  

reillan: Apos: revrendjim: I've met people who were in a dianetic coma.


Did any of them have Cruise,Travolta or Alley as surnames?

or Elfman, Bell, Lee, Hansen, Moss...



Yep.
 
2012-11-24 07:11:15 PM  

chatikh: 42 years in a coma is way too long. At some point they should have let her go. Does anyone know how much money it takes to care for a coma patient? Per year or month?

My boyfriend jokingly said that if he was in a coma, I could pull the plug after 42 years. I told him that one year is a good enough waiting period. Provided that there isn't a huge amount of brain ischemia that makes it extremely unlikely that I will ever wake up or that I will wake up without severe brain damage and mental retardation. Even if there is a relatively low amount of damage, if it's enough to lower my IQ to 100 or less I won't want to wake up. My whole life is based on academia and being much more intelligent than most people. I would also loathe being so disabled that I have to be taken care of. That sounds depressing but I am quite fine, and it's very unlikely that I'll go into a coma. So I will keep doing what I love: studying science in general and biology in particular.


Seriously? If I had to choose between IQ 100 or less or death I would choose IQ under 100. I would make the same choice if it was IQ under 50 or dead. Not a hard decision. I mean 100 is hardly under average if the average is 110.

You are either trolling or messed up in the head.

I am all for ending your life if you are in extreme pain or something but geez man, you have never met someone who is mentally disabled and still has a great life? WTF?
 
2012-11-24 07:12:58 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: her daughter was a "Victim Soul"


Oh, Lord, they didn't bring a victim soul. It's heading for the kitchen! Oh, Thomas, the pot roast!
 
2012-11-24 07:14:31 PM  
If I'm a vegetable with no brain activity -- pull the damn plug, save the money, and get over it.

Everyone is going to die - I damn sure wouldn't want to be a piece of breathing furniture for FOUR farkING DECADES

I get that parents love their children (most of them anyway) but 42 years? really? Let it go man, your daughter died a long long time ago. My personal opinion is that the parents were selfish as hell after about the first 5 years.

Sounds like it wasn't just one life that ended that day she slipped into the coma - the entire family's life ended since they were taking care of a breathing corpse.
 
2012-11-24 07:16:20 PM  
No editors. Damn shame.
 
2012-11-24 07:17:42 PM  

spidermilk: chatikh: 42 years in a coma is way too long. At some point they should have let her go. Does anyone know how much money it takes to care for a coma patient? Per year or month?

My boyfriend jokingly said that if he was in a coma, I could pull the plug after 42 years. I told him that one year is a good enough waiting period. Provided that there isn't a huge amount of brain ischemia that makes it extremely unlikely that I will ever wake up or that I will wake up without severe brain damage and mental retardation. Even if there is a relatively low amount of damage, if it's enough to lower my IQ to 100 or less I won't want to wake up. My whole life is based on academia and being much more intelligent than most people. I would also loathe being so disabled that I have to be taken care of. That sounds depressing but I am quite fine, and it's very unlikely that I'll go into a coma. So I will keep doing what I love: studying science in general and biology in particular.

Seriously? If I had to choose between IQ 100 or less or death I would choose IQ under 100. I would make the same choice if it was IQ under 50 or dead. Not a hard decision. I mean 100 is hardly under average if the average is 110.

You are either trolling or messed up in the head.

I am all for ending your life if you are in extreme pain or something but geez man, you have never met someone who is mentally disabled and still has a great life? WTF?


You mean like a Raiders fan?
 
2012-11-24 07:19:49 PM  
Only religion could justify such a disconnect between logic and reality.
 
2012-11-24 07:23:12 PM  

scotchcrotch:
Ahhh ok, then they were completely in the right.

A couple years? Sure, no problem. Still plenty of hope.

In the longshot that you'd wake 40 years later, would you really want to wake up?


I imagine that once you have started giving that level of care, it's very difficult to stop, for a whole host of reasons. Still, plenty of people would have stuck her in a hospital and abandoned her, and I think the care they gave her is admirable.
 
2012-11-24 07:24:35 PM  

you are a puppet: Myria: I just hope that she was brain dead that whole time. Imagine 42 years of being "locked in"... =(

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S.O.S...........S.O.S............


Better watch posting that shait, Metallica and their lawyers will come after you.
 
2012-11-24 07:24:48 PM  
42 freaking years! Hope is a stupid thing.
 
2012-11-24 07:27:00 PM  
I had no idea it was normal for "journalists" to write articles on their cell phones. What a train wreck of an article.
 
2012-11-24 07:27:16 PM  
There are promises and there are promises.
 
2012-11-24 07:28:29 PM  

SweetSaws: 42 freaking years! Hope is a stupid thing.


Thanks for the memories.
 
2012-11-24 07:28:40 PM  

orbister: scotchcrotch:
Ahhh ok, then they were completely in the right.

A couple years? Sure, no problem. Still plenty of hope.

In the longshot that you'd wake 40 years later, would you really want to wake up?

I imagine that once you have started giving that level of care, it's very difficult to stop, for a whole host of reasons. Still, plenty of people would have stuck her in a hospital and abandoned her, and I think the care they gave her is admirable.


Very difficult to stop?

So it was easier then?

Thanks for proving my point.
 
2012-11-24 07:29:56 PM  

spidermilk: chatikh: 42 years in a coma is way too long. At some point they should have let her go. Does anyone know how much money it takes to care for a coma patient? Per year or month?

My boyfriend jokingly said that if he was in a coma, I could pull the plug after 42 years. I told him that one year is a good enough waiting period. Provided that there isn't a huge amount of brain ischemia that makes it extremely unlikely that I will ever wake up or that I will wake up without severe brain damage and mental retardation. Even if there is a relatively low amount of damage, if it's enough to lower my IQ to 100 or less I won't want to wake up. My whole life is based on academia and being much more intelligent than most people. I would also loathe being so disabled that I have to be taken care of. That sounds depressing but I am quite fine, and it's very unlikely that I'll go into a coma. So I will keep doing what I love: studying science in general and biology in particular.

Seriously? If I had to choose between IQ 100 or less or death I would choose IQ under 100. I would make the same choice if it was IQ under 50 or dead. Not a hard decision. I mean 100 is hardly under average if the average is 110.

You are either trolling or messed up in the head.

I am all for ending your life if you are in extreme pain or something but geez man, you have never met someone who is mentally disabled and still has a great life? WTF?


Having a life that one wants is what makes it great. My ambitions are academic, which is why I share chatikh's sentiment. I would only change my mind if I had some important commitments (so long as they can be met with that lower IQ). In particular, if I had kids, then I would prefer to wake up.
 
2012-11-24 07:42:42 PM  
The person who wrote that article has a Master's degree in Education. Really?
 
2012-11-24 07:43:09 PM  

scotchcrotch: AdolfOliverPanties: This chick was actually very famous. Her mother refused to leave her bedside for more than an hour or two ever, and turned her every two hours. She was supposedly highly regarded by the Catholic church as having a healing touch or some such nonsense.

Her mother said she had a visit from the Blessed Virgin one night, who told her that her daughter was a "Victim Soul" and chose her specific path in life to show others the power of faith or something. Apparently "Victim Soul" is/was a closely guarded secret phenomenon the Catholic church didn't ever really talk about, so when the Mom told a priest she had seen Mother Mary and had been told about the "Victim Soul," the priest freaked out. The mom died about ten years ago, if memory serves.

I think the daughter was on one of those "Unexplained Mysteries" type shows a couple decades ago.

I knew martyrdom was involved in this story somewhere.


It's not a closely guarded secret. I was raised Catholic, that concept was common and still is common among my older relatives. It was used to explain essentially why bad things happen to good people, and how holy it is to keep your suffering secret (or not complain) and offer it up essentially. One of the kids who allegedly saw the Virgin Mary (forget her name but remember the stupid story) became a nun and was forbidden to talk about her experiences by the Church (various theories there btw were espoused but the church always encouraged the 'she said spoooky shiat only the pope could knooooow!). Anyway her Superior hated her and gave her tons of shiat work to do. Apparently the woman was in a lot of pain due to a medical problem and never complained. Only discovered as she was dying. And she was honored more for that than her visions.

It makes a sick sort of sense if you can break out of the bullshiat. If a believer believes, and they believe god is all powerful and all knowing and completely good...and good people suffer...there HAS to be a positive reason for that suffering, otherwise ...how can you believe those things about your god? So one convoluted reason is that suffering is holy, if you suffer in silence and prayer and are a shining example.

It gives meaning to something that really has no meaning. Does it make it easier to bear? My opinion from watching my relatives (who are VERY devout Irish Catholics) is that it does help with the minor stuff. It also helps when caring for older relatives (such as those with dementia). And it hasn't helped them with the big serious things. I mean they still believe, but it offers much less comfort for serious illness and pain at the time. Later it seems helpful for them in processing the experience. And it makes it easier for relatives seeing them go through painful things, to believe there's some greater purpose there.

Just as an aside. I was devoted to my Grandfather. He had dementia in later life, and I lobbied continually because I knew end of life was going to be an issue. My mother (the most liberal Catholic of the siblings) was given medical power of attorney. When the time came, they withdrew support (food/water) and he was made comfortable with lots of morphine. I've no evidence but opinion but I believe that my campaigning for years on the issue made a huge difference. They were all able to let go, and make the right choice. It also helped that his father (my great grandfather) lived to be 104 because his children wouldn't let go. He wasn't on life support, but they intervened at times they shouldn't have. When he got pneumonia and the medical staff urged them to let him go (just make them comfy, let nature take it's course)...they consulted a priest. He told them absolutely not, that was MURDER, and a lot of other shiatty things. So I think it helped them to see that and the futility and cruelty of that.

FWIW, Even though letting my grandfather go was the right decision and the best decision, it was still farking hard, and that entire week there was a part of me that selfishly wanted everything possible done to keep him around. I was just able to recognize it was selfish.

And I miss him every day still. So I have a lot of compassion for the people in the article. Yes, it was a terrible waste. But, I understand the instinct to preserve your loved one while you have hope. They're often the worst people to make such decisions because of that bias. Especially when it's your teenaged daughter originally. That was who they always remembered her as I'm sure.

So sad. And fark the Catholic church, seriously, on this issue. fark them right in the ear.
 
2012-11-24 07:49:53 PM  

Lady Indica: scotchcrotch: AdolfOliverPanties: This chick was actually very famous. Her mother refused to leave her bedside for more than an hour or two ever, and turned her every two hours. She was supposedly highly regarded by the Catholic church as having a healing touch or some such nonsense.

Her mother said she had a visit from the Blessed Virgin one night, who told her that her daughter was a "Victim Soul" and chose her specific path in life to show others the power of faith or something. Apparently "Victim Soul" is/was a closely guarded secret phenomenon the Catholic church didn't ever really talk about, so when the Mom told a priest she had seen Mother Mary and had been told about the "Victim Soul," the priest freaked out. The mom died about ten years ago, if memory serves.

I think the daughter was on one of those "Unexplained Mysteries" type shows a couple decades ago.

I knew martyrdom was involved in this story somewhere.

It's not a closely guarded secret. I was raised Catholic, that concept was common and still is common among my older relatives. It was used to explain essentially why bad things happen to good people, and how holy it is to keep your suffering secret (or not complain) and offer it up essentially. One of the kids who allegedly saw the Virgin Mary (forget her name but remember the stupid story) became a nun and was forbidden to talk about her experiences by the Church (various theories there btw were espoused but the church always encouraged the 'she said spoooky shiat only the pope could knooooow!). Anyway her Superior hated her and gave her tons of shiat work to do. Apparently the woman was in a lot of pain due to a medical problem and never complained. Only discovered as she was dying. And she was honored more for that than her visions.

It makes a sick sort of sense if you can break out of the bullshiat. If a believer believes, and they believe god is all powerful and all knowing and completely good...and good people suffer...there HAS to be ...


I wish there was a Voting Tab for TL;DR
 
2012-11-24 07:54:26 PM  
That is farked up. What if she was in there, trapped in some kind of farking living hell in her mind?

Seriously, someone give her a huge dose of morphine, followed by something to stop the heart.
 
2012-11-24 07:56:01 PM  

dennysgod:

S.O.S...........S.O.S............

Better watch posting that shait, Metallica and their lawyers will come after you.


I live with my mom try harder, many of us read the book(published 1939)/saw the movie(released 1971) well before Metallica destroyed it fed it through a wood chipper(1988).
 
2012-11-24 07:58:48 PM  
A 42 year video? I'll pass tyvm
 
2012-11-24 08:00:24 PM  
She was a teen when she lapsed, imagine her coming out of it as a lesbian.

Imagine the stances that would change.
 
2012-11-24 08:13:04 PM  

Primum: That is farked up. What if she was in there, trapped in some kind of farking living hell in her mind?

Seriously, someone give her a huge dose of morphine, followed by something to stop the heart.


I'm pretty sure a "huge dose of morphine" would get the job done by itself.
 
2012-11-24 08:18:04 PM  
My husband is a neurologist who specializes in movement disorders, of which Parkinson's Disease is one. I know this story was about a diabetic coma, but to address fears of "locked in syndrome" -- Dr. Hubby believes that many people are in such a state for years at a time. CSS, my brother's mother-in-law had such an ailment and was cared for like a baby by her daughters for many years. One time, she coded and was brought back, and for a few moments was lucid. She said one thing: "I saw Jesus, and Jesus saw me." She never spoke again. She lived a few years after that.
 
2012-11-24 08:18:11 PM  
It already sometimes feels as though I was 16 yesterday and woke up 30. No thanks on falling asleep tonight and waking up 72.
 
2012-11-24 08:32:10 PM  

Myria: I just hope that she was brain dead that whole time. Imagine 42 years of being "locked in"... =(


My worst nightmare
 
2012-11-24 08:38:04 PM  
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2012-11-24 08:39:02 PM  
For people saying they should have pulled the plug - what plug?
 
2012-11-24 08:47:40 PM  
They need to do way instain subeditor> who kill thier headlines. becuse these headline cant frigth back!
 
2012-11-24 08:51:29 PM  
She ran on, and on, and on, and finally hit the.
 
2012-11-24 09:26:14 PM  

Coco LaFemme: The person who wrote that article has a Master's degree in Education. Really?


EduMAcation*
 
2012-11-24 09:48:34 PM  
Imagine how crazy that would be if she woke up. Someone would just have to come in and show her a smartphone and freak her right out.
 
2012-11-24 09:51:01 PM  
Florida tag. Story not sad enough, but plenty Florida enogh.
 
2012-11-24 10:11:54 PM  

you are a puppet: Myria: I just hope that she was brain dead that whole time. Imagine 42 years of being "locked in"... =(

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S.O.S...........S.O.S............


You son of a biatch.
 
2012-11-24 11:01:00 PM  

Verzio: For people saying they should have pulled the plug - what plug?


Yeah, a lot of people missed that one.

She was breathing fine. Her heart was beating on its own, and she had other bodily functions. The only support she needed was feeding and turning to prevent bedsores and infection. So "pulling the plug" would have meant starving her to death. And unfortunately that is a lot harder for a family to do than just turning off life support and allowing the body to shut down on its own. (Like Hector Camacho's mom did this weekend) Most places do NOT allow a quick OD of barbiturates for your comatose relatives--if they're breathing OK alone, you gotta get a court order to allow cessation of feeding. You don't just get to starve them to death because you want to.

It's nice that this family gave her the extra care they did give her; but thousands of people in similar comas live 42 years without being read to on a regular basis; they just wither away and die in what amount to coma warehouses. Usually they die sooner than 40 years, because infections and pneumonia get them sooner; but they don't die quick. Because they have to be fed and turned--nobody gets to "pull the plug" as you say.

Fun, huh?
 
2012-11-24 11:03:41 PM  
Kudos to them for doing what they saw as right.
 
2012-11-24 11:17:38 PM  
www.gadailynews.com

She looks awake to me. Are people in a coma supposed to look like that?
 
2012-11-24 11:33:12 PM  
I guess they fixed the typos
 
2012-11-24 11:47:15 PM  
Annette Funicello is currently immobile and cannot speak. It's unclear if she is completely aware all the time or if she drifts in and out. She's more in the "locked in" condition than this woman was, I think, because there's no indication of coma.

Luckily, Annette's husband adores her and takes very good care of her, including taking her out for drives, etc., but he is very old so who knows, he could go before she does.

Very sad situation, and it proves that no matter how good you were in life, or how much joy you brought to others, or how lucky or charmed your life appeared, you can still end up lying motionless in a chair or bed, unable to move or talk or communicate in any way...

Much better to go from a sudden heart attack. Tim Russert over Annette any day, IMHO.
 
2012-11-25 02:00:14 AM  

Verzio: For people saying they should have pulled the plug - what plug?


The butt plug, duh
 
2012-11-25 04:16:39 AM  

LDM90: How is comma formed?


Karma comma, Jamaica aromma.
 
2012-11-25 04:23:36 AM  

Indolent: naughtyrev: Diabetic comma?

As opposed to a diabetic period?


How about last period? My favorite class.
 
2012-11-25 04:35:27 AM  

ZoeNekros: spidermilk: chatikh: 42 years in a coma is way too long. At some point they should have let her go. Does anyone know how much money it takes to care for a coma patient? Per year or month?

My boyfriend jokingly said that if he was in a coma, I could pull the plug after 42 years. I told him that one year is a good enough waiting period. Provided that there isn't a huge amount of brain ischemia that makes it extremely unlikely that I will ever wake up or that I will wake up without severe brain damage and mental retardation. Even if there is a relatively low amount of damage, if it's enough to lower my IQ to 100 or less I won't want to wake up. My whole life is based on academia and being much more intelligent than most people. I would also loathe being so disabled that I have to be taken care of. That sounds depressing but I am quite fine, and it's very unlikely that I'll go into a coma. So I will keep doing what I love: studying science in general and biology in particular.

Seriously? If I had to choose between IQ 100 or less or death I would choose IQ under 100. I would make the same choice if it was IQ under 50 or dead. Not a hard decision. I mean 100 is hardly under average if the average is 110.

You are either trolling or messed up in the head.

I am all for ending your life if you are in extreme pain or something but geez man, you have never met someone who is mentally disabled and still has a great life? WTF?

Having a life that one wants is what makes it great. My ambitions are academic, which is why I share chatikh's sentiment. I would only change my mind if I had some important commitments (so long as they can be met with that lower IQ). In particular, if I had kids, then I would prefer to wake up.


Yeah, I have no children nor will I have any, and I'm currently in grad school for a degree in pharmacology. I want to go even farther than that, pharmacology /biology is really the non-person thing I love most in this world. I hate all sports, most movies, most music, cars, religion, and I have absolutely no desire to be rich, other than having enough money that I don't have to think about money. So the thing I want to do with my life involves understanding a lot of human/mammalian physiology, basic anatomy, a lot of biochemistry/cell biology, and remembering the names, mode of action, and side effects of hundreds of different drugs. And toxicology. And I'm not a person that is content with a life that is not reaching my full potential. I know a lot of people would be able to cope with the scenario I described but I've never been a person that could.
 
2012-11-25 04:37:06 AM  

spidermilk: chatikh: 42 years in a coma is way too long. At some point they should have let her go. Does anyone know how much money it takes to care for a coma patient? Per year or month?

My boyfriend jokingly said that if he was in a coma, I could pull the plug after 42 years. I told him that one year is a good enough waiting period. Provided that there isn't a huge amount of brain ischemia that makes it extremely unlikely that I will ever wake up or that I will wake up without severe brain damage and mental retardation. Even if there is a relatively low amount of damage, if it's enough to lower my IQ to 100 or less I won't want to wake up. My whole life is based on academia and being much more intelligent than most people. I would also loathe being so disabled that I have to be taken care of. That sounds depressing but I am quite fine, and it's very unlikely that I'll go into a coma. So I will keep doing what I love: studying science in general and biology in particular.

Seriously? If I had to choose between IQ 100 or less or death I would choose IQ under 100. I would make the same choice if it was IQ under 50 or dead. Not a hard decision. I mean 100 is hardly under average if the average is 110.

You are either trolling or messed up in the head.

I am all for ending your life if you are in extreme pain or something but geez man, you have never met someone who is mentally disabled and still has a great life? WTF?


My great-uncle has been mentally handicapped his whole life, he's around 75 years old now. He's lived in a home most of his life. Nobody visits him except once every two years for thanksgiving. His mother blamed herself for it her whole life, even though it was just a congenital thing. All those things I very much want to avoid.
My mother always blames herself for everything whether her fault or not, I do not want to be a burden emotionally or financially, and pretty much all my life's passions would be gone if I lost the ability to understand how a biological receptor works or how a neuron transmits signals.
 
2012-11-25 04:43:33 AM  

chatikh: Yeah, I have no children nor will I have any


No one likes a quitter.
 
2012-11-25 05:14:53 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: chatikh: Yeah, I have no children nor will I have any

No one likes a quitter.


I never said I wasn't trying as hard as I can to make babeh. But I'm starting to think those homophobes got one thing right when they say two penises don't make babeh.
 
2012-11-25 05:54:59 AM  

scotchcrotch: Very difficult to stop?

So it was easier then?

Thanks for proving my point.


I'm not sure what you mean here. I wrote "very difficult" not "more difficult". Mind you, I hadn't realised you were trying to make a point. What was it?
 
2012-11-25 07:04:17 AM  

jake_lex: From TFA:

A song was written about the family as well called "My Blessed Child."

OK, here's the thing. I don't think that families in situations like this should fall into despair, should lie prostate with grief. But, seriously, she was in a coma for 42 years. How the fark was she blessed?


Only the men in the family can lie that way, and it's not all that comfortable
 
2012-11-25 08:50:06 AM  

revrendjim: My sister recently had to take her husband off life support. It was a difficult decision because he insisted that he was fine and thinking of taking a walk.



Well, ya know, the cart only comes by once per week.
 
2012-11-25 09:23:05 AM  
lafinjack.net 

grab a snickers
 
2012-11-25 11:24:23 AM  

Nothing To See Here: I'll bet the lawyers were lining up when they heard she slipped on a comma.


42 years ago.. not so much. We weren't near as litigious then as we are now. Gal I know was in a car accident hit by a drunk driver when she was 14. She's 47 now. Her case involved EMS work that didn't brace her neck or back that lead to her being a Quad. The family said, "If things were different back then, we could have sued the medical team..." There were no lawsuits.
 
2012-11-25 02:30:19 PM  
Disgusting story. Should've put her to pasture 42 years ago.

No one should have to live in that state. That's not love. That's torture.
 
2012-11-25 03:26:44 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: [farm3.staticflickr.com image 461x354]


Good Grief. That looks like a young Grant Imahara from Mythbusters.
 
2012-11-25 04:55:35 PM  

NateAsbestos: I had no idea it was normal for "journalists" to write articles on their cell phones.


What's a five-year-old doing with a cell phone, anyway?
 
2012-11-25 08:24:44 PM  

ng2810: [www.gadailynews.com image 634x401]

She looks awake to me. Are people in a coma supposed to look like that?



Nah, they usually give less tongue.
 
2012-11-25 09:09:47 PM  

santadog: Gal I know was in a car accident hit by a drunk driver when she was 14. She's 47 now. Her case involved EMS work that didn't brace her neck or back that lead to her being a Quad. The family said, "If things were different back then, we could have sued the medical team..." There were no lawsuits.


Even now, that might not be an easy case for them to win, at least in a state with a "good samaritan" law that provides some protection from liability if you're trying to save someone's life. Might depend on whether the EMS work was done by certified people like EMTs, or volunteers, or what.
 
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