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(Christian Broadcasting Network)   At Thanksgiving, I noticed my young in-laws are all addicted to salt. What could my father-in-law put in their salt shakers that will look like salt but not slowly poison them?   (cbn.com) divider line 27
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2012-11-24 01:27:15 PM  
4 votes:
Sodium chloride is not a poison. Your father-in-law failed at parenting for not emphasizing the daily safe dosage to his children.

Salt should not be served at the dinner table in any case. If a dish needs salt, the cook has failed.
2012-11-24 06:20:28 PM  
3 votes:
I've gone off salt before. Food tastes like dirt for about 3-4 days, but then things change and you figure out that a plain chicken breast with a little lemon juice on it can actually be pretty tasty. I lost 35lbs to boot.
2012-11-24 02:04:04 PM  
3 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Salt should not be served at the dinner table in any case. If a dish needs salt, the cook has failed.


As a hostess, I would not want to interrupt my dinner party to go get the salt a guest has requested, since they like more salt on their potatoes than I do. As a matter of fact, different people perceive flavors differently - I'd go so far as to suggest that no two people receive precisely the same input from their taste buds, even if they shared the same dish. So I have salt and pepper on the table. And I'm not offended when a guest salts their food, nor do i feel as if I somehow failed.

Fark you. Tastes differ.
2012-11-24 08:00:21 PM  
2 votes:
I have to bring my own salt to other people's houses because the high-blood pressure lie has spread broadly and without remorse.
2012-11-24 02:10:24 PM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: kmmontandon: Marcus Aurelius:

Salt should not be served at the dinner table in any case. If a dish needs salt, the cook has failed.


Or just maybe there's more than one person at the same table, and they have different tastes.

Tough shiat. Go eat somewhere else.


You sound like a lonely, bitter old man who burns every single thing he cooks.
2012-11-24 01:39:59 PM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius:

Salt should not be served at the dinner table in any case. If a dish needs salt, the cook has failed.



Or just maybe there's more than one person at the same table, and they have different tastes.
2012-11-24 01:32:25 PM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Sodium chloride is not a poison. Your father-in-law failed at parenting for not emphasizing the daily safe dosage to his children.

Salt should not be served at the dinner table in any case. If a dish needs salt, the cook has failed.


This. You would die if you didn't get enough salt, which hardly fits the definition of a poison. Some people experience high blood pressure if they consume too much salt, and this leads to cardiovascular disease. Many people, however, are unaffected by it. In short, if you have high blood pressure then cut back on the salt, otherwise don't worry about it.
2012-11-24 08:40:42 PM  
1 votes:
How about you let them enjoy their meal?
2012-11-24 08:38:31 PM  
1 votes:
I salt my food any old way I wish.

After I taste it.

If I have been invited to eat at another person's house I do not question what they set on their table.
2012-11-24 07:53:28 PM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Sodium chloride is not a poison. Your father-in-law failed at parenting for not emphasizing the daily safe dosage to his children.

Salt should not be served at the dinner table in any case. If a dish needs salt, the cook has failed.


"Should not"? According to whom, exactly? You?

TSB (true story; no idea if it's cool)

I was at a fancy restaurant with friends and we got this exact kind of grief from the maitre d'. Someone at the table asked for salt, and we got a "I'm sorry; but Chef has salted the dish exactly the way it is supposed to be", at which point one of my friends who at the time held a high civil post in the Canadian government says "Two weeks ago, I had supper at Buckingham Palace where the Queen herself was in attendance and there were salt shakers set. If it's good enough for her, it's good enough for this place." Outgunned. The poor bastard didn't put up any further fight and brought us our salt.
2012-11-24 07:33:58 PM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Salt should not be served at the dinner table in any case. If a dish needs salt, the cook has failed.


This. Maybe it's because my friend is the daughter of a chef and a Southern woman, and she had to learn to cook without salt because her dad had heart problems (had six months to live...and lasted at least fifteen). I actually find myself brushing salt off of fries in a lot of restaurants.
2012-11-24 06:32:49 PM  
1 votes:
Consider letting people eat what they want. It's a free country.
2012-11-24 06:24:33 PM  
1 votes:
Hopefuly, subbies Father in Law is smart enough to ignore Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network on subjects of "Science".

And besides, this here is diet stuff, which means BS. Lets look closer.

the FA states:
The government recommends consuming only 1,500 milligrams of salt a day, or two-thirds of one teaspoon. Most Americans consume more than twice that amount.

The Gubbmn't eh? We trust them now, Pat? Ok, went googling for 1500mg salt:

Mayo Clinic sez:
The 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommend limiting sodium to less than 2,300 mg a day - or 1,500 mg if you're age 51 or older, or if you are black, or if you have high blood pressure, diabetes or chronic kidney disease. Keep in mind that these are upper limits, and less is usually best

Ok, so the FA left out the old and black and diseased part, and stole a whole gram of salty goodness from you in the process... Wait, did they say SODIUM? Not SALT? Yah, Sodium. Salt is sodium chloride. Salt = sodium * 2.543. 2,300 MG of Sodium == 5,850 mg of Salt. Yummie salt!

Ok, so I took a look at the 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans, and found this:

Because a Recommended Dietary Allowance for sodium could not be determined, the Institute of Medicine set Adequate Intake (AI) levels for this nutrient. The AI is the recommended daily average intake level of a nutrient, and usual intakes at or above the AI have a low probability of inadequacy. The sodium AI is based on the amount that is needed to meet the sodium needs of healthy and moderately active individuals.45 It covers sodium sweat losses in unacclimatized individuals who are exposed to high temperatures or who become physically active, and ensures that recommended intake levels for other nutrients can be met. The sodium AI for individuals ages 9 to 50 years is 1,500 mg per day.

1,500 mg of Sodium equals 3,815 mg of Salt. So where the FA is asking you to limit yourself to 1,500 mg of salt, the IoM and the US government is recommending you get at least 3,815 mg of salt so that you don't, you know, DIE. Way to go, CBN.

And subby, leave your in-laws alone.

For those who are interested, the actual US Government guidlines are here: 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans. They get their sodium info from the Institute of Medicine.
2012-11-24 05:48:19 PM  
1 votes:

Lsherm: The texture is right and it doesn't have any sodium. As a bonus, it has a boatload of potassium, so one serving is more than what you get in a banana.


make me some tea: o.O


Just the one. ;-)

Lsherm: The texture is right and it doesn't have any sodium. As a bonus, it has a boatload of potassium, so one serving is more than what you get in a banana.


Careful if used with high blood pressure meds. The potassium can make you very sick. Never give anyone anything without their permission.
2012-11-24 05:16:42 PM  
1 votes:

smells_like_meat: The linked site is Pat Robinson's "700 Club". Some of the comments are comedy gold.


o.O

Fleetu Jun 27, 2011 at 6:10 pm
HEAR THIS AMERICA! Jesus said "Salt is good." (Luke 14:34)The world says "Salt is bad." Who do you think is right? Years ago I read about the lie of the evils of salt from an offbeat doctor's newsletter. He said that the culprit in salt that raises blood pressure and causes other health problems is not the salt itself, but the chemical added to the salt to prevent caking. It is irrelevant whether it is sea salt or not. The added chemical is what causes the damage. I told 3 of my friends who had high blood pressure about what I heard. I know of only one place that sells salt without anything added: Trader Joe's. I'm not sure about the smaller containers of salt, but I do know that their larger container of sea salt lists only salt as the ingredient. No chemicals added. Even Whole Foods Market adds a chemical to their salt--including the sea salt. Anyway, my 3 friends asked me to buy Trader Joe's salt (without the additive) for them. After using the Trader Joe's salt without the chemical additive, 2 of my 3 friends had their blood pressure return to normal! The other friend probably had other reasons for his high blood pressure.
Job said "Can flavorless food be eaten without salt?" (Job 6:6) God gave us salt to make food taste good. To tell someone who loves salt to stop using salt based on the lie that it is bad for you is illogical. They're still going to eat it because they want flavor. The best thing to do is to educate them about the added chemical that raises blood pressure just for the convenience of preventing caking. (Remember, they can get good salt at Trader Joe's without the additive. But they have to get the big container of sea salt--and check the ingredients.) And somebody with great clout should demand that manufacturers remove the chemicals from our salt. Because it's killing millions of people.
By the way, some fellow named Kevin Trudeau claims that when you look at the ingredients in many packaged products, that the word "spices" is actually unidentified chemical additives that they don't want us to know about, but the FDA allows them to use the term spices, as long as they can get a payoff. The FDA is corrupt, just like the majority of other government organizations. Instead of doing their job of protecting our people from poisons, the FDA actually allows companies to poison us, as long as they can receive a bribe!
Okay, I sure hope someone will give this message to Pat Robertson. I'm signing off now.
2012-11-24 04:58:31 PM  
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: On a positive note, diabetes was almost unheard of


People really didn't live long enough for diabetes to develop, at least type II.
2012-11-24 04:18:16 PM  
1 votes:

RexTalionis: Fun fact: Did you know that insensitivity to the taste of salt is an early indicator of lead poisoning?

Romans used to flavor their sweet wines with lead acetate (more commonly known as lead sugar) by keeping wine in lead urns. The result is that the Roman diet started consuming more and more salt as the population lost the ability to taste it.


Also, the term "salary" derives from the Latin word "salarium" - extra pay given to Roman soldiers specifically to buy salt.
2012-11-24 04:09:32 PM  
1 votes:

GAT_00: RexTalionis: Fun fact: Did you know that insensitivity to the taste of salt is an early indicator of lead poisoning?

Romans used to flavor their sweet wines with lead acetate (more commonly known as lead sugar) by keeping wine in lead urns. The result is that the Roman diet started consuming more and more salt as the population lost the ability to taste it.

Also the use of lead pipes to carry water. So, the very richest Romans and obviously the Emperors were consuming several times above the daily maximum safe amount of lead every single day. It's thought this is why so many late Roman leaders were so ineffectual or insane; they actually were mentally deficient by lead poisoning.


On a positive note, diabetes was almost unheard of
2012-11-24 04:06:21 PM  
1 votes:

RexTalionis: Fun fact: Did you know that insensitivity to the taste of salt is an early indicator of lead poisoning?

Romans used to flavor their sweet wines with lead acetate (more commonly known as lead sugar) by keeping wine in lead urns. The result is that the Roman diet started consuming more and more salt as the population lost the ability to taste it.


Also the use of lead pipes to carry water. So, the very richest Romans and obviously the Emperors were consuming several times above the daily maximum safe amount of lead every single day. It's thought this is why so many late Roman leaders were so ineffectual or insane; they actually were mentally deficient by lead poisoning.
2012-11-24 04:02:07 PM  
1 votes:
Fun fact: Did you know that insensitivity to the taste of salt is an early indicator of lead poisoning?

Romans used to flavor their sweet wines with lead acetate (more commonly known as lead sugar) by keeping wine in lead urns. The result is that the Roman diet started consuming more and more salt as the population lost the ability to taste it.
2012-11-24 03:49:39 PM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius:
If a dish needs salt, the cook has failed.


How so? Tastes vary.
2012-11-24 03:48:53 PM  
1 votes:

Slaxl: Make the youngins eat a big ball of salt. If they live then they'll have learned a valuable lesson to not eat big balls of salt, and indeed any amount of salt.


Or, you could have low blood pressure like me and need extra salt.
2012-11-24 03:47:54 PM  
1 votes:
Mrs. Dash doesn't look like salt, but it's specifically meant to replace it.

If you need to fool them, since salt shaking is mainly just a habit anyway (no one is really going to notice it isn't real salt):

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The texture is right and it doesn't have any sodium. As a bonus, it has a boatload of potassium, so one serving is more than what you get in a banana.
2012-11-24 03:39:18 PM  
1 votes:

kmmontandon: Marcus Aurelius:
Tough shiat. Go eat somewhere else.


I get the feeling you don't have to worry about the culinary tastes of others very often.


"Enjoy an explosion of culinary delight, you farking cumrags!"
2012-11-24 02:22:35 PM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius:
Tough shiat. Go eat somewhere else.



I get the feeling you don't have to worry about the culinary tastes of others very often.
2012-11-24 01:36:35 PM  
1 votes:
The linked site is Pat Robinson's "700 Club". Some of the comments are comedy gold.
2012-11-24 01:35:27 PM  
1 votes:
I'm pretty sure the little snowflakes get more salt in the Happy Meals you stuff down their necks than they would get at a normal dinner.
 
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