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(The Atlantic)   The death of America's most important contribution to culture, jazz music   (theatlantic.com) divider line 38
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2012-11-24 01:21:00 PM
3 votes:

theflatline: Thank god my home town New Orleans still exists, and as long as it does jazz will not die.

/and please just say no to european jazz fusion.


The Europeans are some of the only ones bringing innovation to jazz. New Orleans is mostly a museum.
2012-11-24 01:15:18 PM
3 votes:
Thank god my home town New Orleans still exists, and as long as it does jazz will not die.

/and please just say no to european jazz fusion.
2012-11-24 12:34:40 PM
3 votes:
Jazz isn't dead. Just like Big Band music isn't dead. They just aren't burning up the charts and being played until 4am anymore. Hell, in a few years Rock n' Roll will be as "dead" as Jazz is.
2012-11-24 11:11:56 PM
2 votes:
Jazz is my spiritual medicine. It just puts a big smile on my face.

It's not surprising the single kernel peabrains of Fark's mouthbreather population can't process anything that isn't linear. Ugh, tragedy really.

/now stfu and go design some algorithm or whatever poindexters. I've got a date with a smokin' jazz-loving lady who does things a 4chan jpeg could never possibly fathom.
2012-11-24 02:34:57 PM
2 votes:

Nogale: Most jazz music bores me to tears.
Blues, on the other hand, makes me stupid happy....


I really hate jazz music. It's like country music--I'll turn it off and sit in silence rather than have to listen to it. And while country music just annoys me, jazz drives me right up the wall. I like my music to have a little order to it. But I do like the blues.
2012-11-24 01:21:40 PM
2 votes:
Most jazz music bores me to tears.

Blues, on the other hand, makes me stupid happy....
2012-11-24 01:16:08 PM
2 votes:

moothemagiccow: WTF Indeed: Jazz isn't dead. Just like Big Band music isn't dead. They just aren't burning up the charts and being played until 4am anymore. Hell, in a few years Rock n' Roll will be as "dead" as Jazz is.

You must be posting from the 70s. Rock has been dead for decades


Given what is being played on my local "alternative rock" radio station, I'm inclined to agree. Most of it is neither alternative, nor rock.
2012-11-24 12:51:23 PM
2 votes:
No it isn't, but headlines like that one get more clicks.

On another note, marketing is still alive.
2012-11-24 12:33:47 PM
2 votes:
Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny ....
2012-11-24 12:29:50 PM
2 votes:

cman: Yeah, I think I am gonna have to go with Electronic Dance Music over Jazz


ORLY?
userserve-ak.last.fm
2012-11-24 12:28:13 PM
2 votes:
am I missing something or did TFA not really address its own headline and topic? 


otherwise, though I suspect its relationship to jazz is in-name-only, Futurejazz and Darkjazz are rather interesting, newer genres (i.e. Hidden Orchestra, Kilimanjaro Darkjazz Ensemble, etc.). I'm sure Flying Lotus fits in somewhere too.
2012-11-24 12:24:32 PM
2 votes:
I blame:

Link
2012-11-24 12:23:52 PM
2 votes:
Languages go extinct. So do types of music.
2012-11-25 08:31:22 AM
1 votes:
www.grooveeffect.com
2012-11-25 02:45:12 AM
1 votes:
www.gretschdrums.com

Begs to differ.
2012-11-24 10:50:47 PM
1 votes:
I woke up this morning and cranked over some Lester Young while I was making coffee. Bouncing around the house I put on some Coltrane. Had the kids in the car running some errands and my son asked for me to put on some Louis Armstrong. Tonight while I was making dinner I had Mingus going.

If Jazz is dead then you couldn't tell from the inside of my house and life.
2012-11-24 09:57:33 PM
1 votes:
jazz is unspeakably boring
2012-11-24 09:55:05 PM
1 votes:

Richard Roma: No more jazz? Now what are poseurs going to pretend they like in a sad attempt to appear intelligent?


Probably Prog Rock or the Doors.
2012-11-24 09:36:05 PM
1 votes:

Richard Roma: No more jazz? Now what are poseurs going to pretend they like in a sad attempt to appear intelligent?


+a billion
2012-11-24 08:41:16 PM
1 votes:
4.bp.blogspot.com

The San Francisco Jazz Center is under construction about three blocks from my apartment. I don't think it's dead yet.
2012-11-24 07:09:19 PM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: Hell, in a few years Rock n' Roll will be as "dead" as Jazz is.


I have been hearing this since the 60's. Good luck with that.
2012-11-24 05:39:33 PM
1 votes:

Hunter_Worthington: now, we can all listen to the notes they're not playing.


Link
2012-11-24 05:34:40 PM
1 votes:
Leave it to the douchebags at The Atlantic to publish a douchey article about the end of Jazz music.
This is the equivalent of the necon's End of History nonsense.

/Get a clue, pseudo-intellectual hipsters.
2012-11-24 05:16:05 PM
1 votes:
Has anyone mentioned that rock and roll was America's most important contribution to culture? I mean we completely changed the world with it.
2012-11-24 04:54:34 PM
1 votes:

John Buck 41: [taildom.com image 640x359]

What jazz sounds like to people with the musical curiosity of a dog.


There. That's better.
2012-11-24 04:04:12 PM
1 votes:
If jazz is dead, I think that that Ken Burns documentary, which is really the only truly bad one he's done, probably had about as big a role in it, by cramming all jazz done after 1960 into one segment and having Wynton Marsalis coming in to shiat all over it.
2012-11-24 03:41:00 PM
1 votes:

John Buck 41: Another good reason I have you fav'd.
As a rule, when there's a jazz thread on Fark I crap all over it. Just don't have the energy this afternoon. Besides which I'm fairly certain most Fark jazz lovers aren't even seeing this post, 'cos...y'know.


Yes, someone is always offended, or tells me that I'm not intelligent enough to get it, or that I have no taste or something, but sorry, I'm not trying to be----uh, whatever it is people try to be. Jazz music drives me right up a tree.

My local NPR station plays a lot of it (right now, in fact) and while I'll keep NPR on quietly in the background most of the time, even through the kiddie hour, when I hear that jazz show starting (along with the smmooooth tones of the announcer) I have to turn it off.
2012-11-24 03:40:44 PM
1 votes:
All pop(ular) music becomes unpopular. And eventually, it gets recycled.

The fourth wave of instrumental surf music came and went fast, yet Dick Dale played here in town Thanksgiving evening.

The article tells of the link between what the author defines as jazz and the great American songbook. Jazz, like rock and roll as well as funk, describes a rhythmic pop music with a sexual term. And as long as a performer improvises, jazz lives... just like Gregorian chants, baroque, classical, romantic, modern, and other concert music genres.

Oh, and subby? There are other hugely important American contributions to culture... in music we can include the Broadway musical and its offshoot film musicals, rock and roll, blues, hip hop, rap, and many others... and what about comic strips, comic books, pop art, Jackson Pollack, Jasper Johns, hot rods, drag racing, NASCAR, western movies and TV shows, etc. Jazz is important, but perhaps not the most important. We can include all of TV, the internet, and many recent elements of high tech communication as well.
2012-11-24 03:07:47 PM
1 votes:

swahnhennessy: theflatline: Thank god my home town New Orleans still exists, and as long as it does jazz will not die.

/and please just say no to european jazz fusion.

The Europeans are some of the only ones bringing innovation to jazz. New Orleans is mostly a museum.


New Orleans has a local music scene that any city anywhere in the world would be envious of, and one that while not only is steeped in tradtion, but does venture out, but remains true to it;s roots.

Which is why when you go to see John Boutte or Kermit Ruffin, you will see people of all ages and genders tapping their feet and singing along to old and new classics. Not to mention the Marsalis family, the Nevilles, the Meters, and the thousands of local musicians.

Just because we love traditional jazz, afro cuban, swing, and dixieland styles, does not mean the city is a museum, but a city that knows it's own roots, and is proud to display them. All with a little samba and bossa nova blended in to make it smooth.

I would much prefer to listen to any of the above while marching in a second line, than listen to some guy, who more than likely a competent musician, making his horn sound like a cat in its death throes or six fingered retard on a broken sax.
2012-11-24 01:58:00 PM
1 votes:

aspAddict: [www.vervemusicgroup.com image 400x400]

Don't care much for her music, but she makes a decent album cover. 

/That's right, Diana...now let's try one without the top...


This lady doesn't do "decent album covers" like Diana Krall:

i78.photobucket.com

But, then again, I stopped buying albums based on what was on the cover when I reached the age of reason.
2012-11-24 01:44:32 PM
1 votes:
uploads.gretschguitars.com

*JAZZ!*

/And now a solo on my trombone that was left out in the rain....
2012-11-24 01:30:30 PM
1 votes:

swahnhennessy: theflatline: Thank god my home town New Orleans still exists, and as long as it does jazz will not die.

/and please just say no to european jazz fusion.

The Europeans are some of the only ones bringing innovation to jazz. New Orleans is mostly a museum.


I'm a big fan of old 1920's and 30's jazz, and I dont normally like modern electronic dance music (house, etc.) but I have been hooked on electroswing for a little while now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro_swing
2012-11-24 01:30:14 PM
1 votes:
www.vervemusicgroup.com

Don't care much for her music, but she makes a decent album cover. 

/That's right, Diana...now let's try one without the top...
2012-11-24 01:21:30 PM
1 votes:

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: So long as Herbie Hancock is alive and active, jazz isn't dead.


Yeah, people might have said that about Bird, Jelly Roll Morton, Trane, Horace Silver, Miles, Duke, Basie, Dizzy, Zawinul, etc...

Jazz is alive and well (albeit not as popular as it once was), and will continue to be for as long as people appreciate innovation and improvisation. Hell, I paid my way through grad school playing in a big band on Friday & Saturday nights, and a steady Sunday afternoon quartet job at a fancy hotel. Blues and jazz are the first uniquely "American" styles of music, and won't be soon forgotten.

Im_Gumby: What?!?!? Kenny G died?????


I'd facepalm, but I know that you're kidding. I can fart more interestingly than Kenny G can play. He was actually pretty good way back when he was playing with Jeff Lorber, but he discovered his "niche" playing pentatonic scales that didn't challenge peoples' ears who are too lazy to actively listen to jazz, but wanted to say that they "like jazz". His incessant noodling-around sappy bullshiat is offensive to my ears, but I can see why other people might like it. He found his audience and played it up for many dollars. I don't begrudge him that. I'd just rather listen to someone who challenges my brain, not that "smooth jazz / adult contemporary" crap.
2012-11-24 01:09:53 PM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: Jazz isn't dead. Just like Big Band music isn't dead. They just aren't burning up the charts and being played until 4am anymore. Hell, in a few years Rock n' Roll will be as "dead" as Jazz is.


You must be posting from the 70s. Rock has been dead for decades
2012-11-24 12:54:47 PM
1 votes:
2012-11-24 12:41:12 PM
1 votes:
I guess the people in KC never got the memo
WGJ
2012-11-24 12:38:31 PM
1 votes:
Well, what did you expect when it moved to Utah?
 
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