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(The Atlantic)   The death of America's most important contribution to culture, jazz music   (theatlantic.com) divider line 129
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2012-11-24 12:09:31 PM  
Music is about change. If you stick with something too long you get stagnant and may as well stop. That's why I am moving on to Avant-garde passivist anarchist trip-hip-rock ambiance collabor-jazz.
 
2012-11-24 12:09:40 PM  
Yeah, I think I am gonna have to go with Electronic Dance Music over Jazz
 
2012-11-24 12:11:03 PM  
RIP Jazz
i1079.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-24 12:13:40 PM  
Wassa matta, man? Don't you like our smart people's music?
 
2012-11-24 12:14:08 PM  
As someone who's taking a "The History of Jazz" class, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/until I realized I still haven't done the 10 page analysis of "The Preacher" by Horace Silver due next Friday
//then I'm not getting much of a kick
 
2012-11-24 12:15:38 PM  

cman: Yeah, I think I am gonna have to go with Electronic Dance Music over Jazz


i thought the british made that
 
kab
2012-11-24 12:20:50 PM  

cman: Yeah, I think I am gonna have to go with Electronic Dance Music over Jazz


3/10, should get some bites.
 
2012-11-24 12:23:52 PM  
Languages go extinct. So do types of music.
 
2012-11-24 12:24:32 PM  
I blame:

Link
 
2012-11-24 12:28:13 PM  
am I missing something or did TFA not really address its own headline and topic? 


otherwise, though I suspect its relationship to jazz is in-name-only, Futurejazz and Darkjazz are rather interesting, newer genres (i.e. Hidden Orchestra, Kilimanjaro Darkjazz Ensemble, etc.). I'm sure Flying Lotus fits in somewhere too.
 
2012-11-24 12:29:50 PM  

cman: Yeah, I think I am gonna have to go with Electronic Dance Music over Jazz


ORLY?
userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2012-11-24 12:32:14 PM  
So long as Herbie Hancock is alive and active, jazz isn't dead.
 
2012-11-24 12:33:47 PM  
Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny ....
 
2012-11-24 12:34:40 PM  
Jazz isn't dead. Just like Big Band music isn't dead. They just aren't burning up the charts and being played until 4am anymore. Hell, in a few years Rock n' Roll will be as "dead" as Jazz is.
 
WGJ
2012-11-24 12:38:31 PM  
Well, what did you expect when it moved to Utah?
 
2012-11-24 12:40:49 PM  
Getting a kick out of this thread as I am currently listening to the local college Jazz station.
 
2012-11-24 12:40:50 PM  
What?!?!? Kenny G died?????
 
2012-11-24 12:41:12 PM  
I guess the people in KC never got the memo
 
2012-11-24 12:46:36 PM  
 
2012-11-24 12:51:23 PM  
No it isn't, but headlines like that one get more clicks.

On another note, marketing is still alive.
 
2012-11-24 12:53:53 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: am I missing something or did TFA not really address its own headline and topic?


Nope. That "conclusion" in the final paragraph was never supported or addressed in the rest of the article.

(Downloading the Carmen McRae cover of "Lush Life" right now since I'm intrigued by the praise in the article for it.)
 
2012-11-24 12:54:30 PM  
In places where you can still smoke in bars, jazz is alive. Otherwise, why bother?
 
2012-11-24 12:54:47 PM  
 
2012-11-24 12:59:14 PM  

puckrock2000: MFAWG: I blame:

Link

Right artist, wrong tune.


Damn! Beat me to it.
 
2012-11-24 01:01:24 PM  
As I've alway said, jazz is for middle-aged men questioning their sexual orientation.
 
2012-11-24 01:01:36 PM  
Jazz is dead. Long live megaphone crooning!
 
2012-11-24 01:09:53 PM  

WTF Indeed: Jazz isn't dead. Just like Big Band music isn't dead. They just aren't burning up the charts and being played until 4am anymore. Hell, in a few years Rock n' Roll will be as "dead" as Jazz is.


You must be posting from the 70s. Rock has been dead for decades
 
2012-11-24 01:11:36 PM  
Well, at least we'll always have jazz hands.
 
2012-11-24 01:15:18 PM  
Thank god my home town New Orleans still exists, and as long as it does jazz will not die.

/and please just say no to european jazz fusion.
 
2012-11-24 01:15:48 PM  
Well, we'll always have Linus and Lucy.
 
2012-11-24 01:16:08 PM  

moothemagiccow: WTF Indeed: Jazz isn't dead. Just like Big Band music isn't dead. They just aren't burning up the charts and being played until 4am anymore. Hell, in a few years Rock n' Roll will be as "dead" as Jazz is.

You must be posting from the 70s. Rock has been dead for decades


Given what is being played on my local "alternative rock" radio station, I'm inclined to agree. Most of it is neither alternative, nor rock.
 
2012-11-24 01:18:49 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: As someone who's taking a "The History of Jazz" class, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/until I realized I still haven't done the 10 page analysis of "The Preacher" by Horace Silver due next Friday
//then I'm not getting much of a kick


I can only imagine that taking a class like that is a bit like a vegan taking a biology class and having to dissect a cat.
 
2012-11-24 01:21:00 PM  

theflatline: Thank god my home town New Orleans still exists, and as long as it does jazz will not die.

/and please just say no to european jazz fusion.


The Europeans are some of the only ones bringing innovation to jazz. New Orleans is mostly a museum.
 
2012-11-24 01:21:30 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: So long as Herbie Hancock is alive and active, jazz isn't dead.


Yeah, people might have said that about Bird, Jelly Roll Morton, Trane, Horace Silver, Miles, Duke, Basie, Dizzy, Zawinul, etc...

Jazz is alive and well (albeit not as popular as it once was), and will continue to be for as long as people appreciate innovation and improvisation. Hell, I paid my way through grad school playing in a big band on Friday & Saturday nights, and a steady Sunday afternoon quartet job at a fancy hotel. Blues and jazz are the first uniquely "American" styles of music, and won't be soon forgotten.

Im_Gumby: What?!?!? Kenny G died?????


I'd facepalm, but I know that you're kidding. I can fart more interestingly than Kenny G can play. He was actually pretty good way back when he was playing with Jeff Lorber, but he discovered his "niche" playing pentatonic scales that didn't challenge peoples' ears who are too lazy to actively listen to jazz, but wanted to say that they "like jazz". His incessant noodling-around sappy bullshiat is offensive to my ears, but I can see why other people might like it. He found his audience and played it up for many dollars. I don't begrudge him that. I'd just rather listen to someone who challenges my brain, not that "smooth jazz / adult contemporary" crap.
 
2012-11-24 01:21:40 PM  
Most jazz music bores me to tears.

Blues, on the other hand, makes me stupid happy....
 
2012-11-24 01:26:00 PM  

fastfxr: As I've alway said, jazz is for middle-aged men questioning their sexual orientation.


What Ive noticed is that gay men in the US do not tend to like jazz, (with an exception for the musical theater variety,) but the Europeans seem to be much more comfortable with it (except for the avant-garde/non danceable variety.)

just observations. I have not conducted a scientific study.
 
2012-11-24 01:30:14 PM  
www.vervemusicgroup.com

Don't care much for her music, but she makes a decent album cover. 

/That's right, Diana...now let's try one without the top...
 
2012-11-24 01:30:30 PM  

swahnhennessy: theflatline: Thank god my home town New Orleans still exists, and as long as it does jazz will not die.

/and please just say no to european jazz fusion.

The Europeans are some of the only ones bringing innovation to jazz. New Orleans is mostly a museum.


I'm a big fan of old 1920's and 30's jazz, and I dont normally like modern electronic dance music (house, etc.) but I have been hooked on electroswing for a little while now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro_swing
 
2012-11-24 01:31:04 PM  
Important to who?

www.thecomicbooks.com
 
2012-11-24 01:34:28 PM  
It's all about folk-punk now. Get with the program people.
/nsfw language and screamy vocals
 
2012-11-24 01:43:07 PM  

WTF Indeed: Jazz isn't dead. Just like Big Band music isn't dead. They just aren't burning up the charts and being played until 4am anymore. Hell, in a few years Rock n' Roll will be as "dead" as Jazz is.


AC/DC told me rock 'n roll will NEVER die!
 
2012-11-24 01:44:32 PM  
uploads.gretschguitars.com

*JAZZ!*

/And now a solo on my trombone that was left out in the rain....
 
2012-11-24 01:45:40 PM  

Im_Gumby: What?!?!? Kenny G died?????


Damn. Beat me to it.

/ he's just one nail on the coffin, IMHO.
 
2012-11-24 01:49:51 PM  
Ummmm no subby, no.
 
2012-11-24 01:52:42 PM  
It's not dead, it always smells like that.
 
2012-11-24 01:58:00 PM  

aspAddict: [www.vervemusicgroup.com image 400x400]

Don't care much for her music, but she makes a decent album cover. 

/That's right, Diana...now let's try one without the top...


This lady doesn't do "decent album covers" like Diana Krall:

i78.photobucket.com

But, then again, I stopped buying albums based on what was on the cover when I reached the age of reason.
 
2012-11-24 02:08:59 PM  

Martstar: /And now a solo on my trombone that was left out in the rain....


I bet that was one rusty trombone.
 
2012-11-24 02:10:47 PM  
Blues not Jazz, is the most important
 
2012-11-24 02:11:15 PM  
 
2012-11-24 02:11:17 PM  

Psycoholic_Slag: WTF Indeed: Jazz isn't dead. Just like Big Band music isn't dead. They just aren't burning up the charts and being played until 4am anymore. Hell, in a few years Rock n' Roll will be as "dead" as Jazz is.

AC/DC told me rock 'n roll will NEVER die!



Neil Young said pretty much the same thing.
 
2012-11-24 02:15:43 PM  
As someone who lives in New Orleans, this comes as a surprise to me.
 
As well, brass band music- an offshoot of jazz- is more popular down here than any other genere.
 
2012-11-24 02:19:00 PM  
www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com
RIP Jazz
 
2012-11-24 02:22:51 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: Psycoholic_Slag: WTF Indeed: Jazz isn't dead. Just like Big Band music isn't dead. They just aren't burning up the charts and being played until 4am anymore. Hell, in a few years Rock n' Roll will be as "dead" as Jazz is.

AC/DC told me rock 'n roll will NEVER die!


Neil Young said pretty much the same thing.


So did Danny and the Juniors.
 
2012-11-24 02:27:59 PM  
Bird (and Diz) lives.

Link
 
2012-11-24 02:34:57 PM  

Nogale: Most jazz music bores me to tears.
Blues, on the other hand, makes me stupid happy....


I really hate jazz music. It's like country music--I'll turn it off and sit in silence rather than have to listen to it. And while country music just annoys me, jazz drives me right up the wall. I like my music to have a little order to it. But I do like the blues.
 
2012-11-24 02:50:03 PM  
It is wonderful music.
 
2012-11-24 02:54:12 PM  

cryinoutloud: I really hate jazz music. It's like country music


www.knickknackrecords.com
 
2012-11-24 03:07:47 PM  

swahnhennessy: theflatline: Thank god my home town New Orleans still exists, and as long as it does jazz will not die.

/and please just say no to european jazz fusion.

The Europeans are some of the only ones bringing innovation to jazz. New Orleans is mostly a museum.


New Orleans has a local music scene that any city anywhere in the world would be envious of, and one that while not only is steeped in tradtion, but does venture out, but remains true to it;s roots.

Which is why when you go to see John Boutte or Kermit Ruffin, you will see people of all ages and genders tapping their feet and singing along to old and new classics. Not to mention the Marsalis family, the Nevilles, the Meters, and the thousands of local musicians.

Just because we love traditional jazz, afro cuban, swing, and dixieland styles, does not mean the city is a museum, but a city that knows it's own roots, and is proud to display them. All with a little samba and bossa nova blended in to make it smooth.

I would much prefer to listen to any of the above while marching in a second line, than listen to some guy, who more than likely a competent musician, making his horn sound like a cat in its death throes or six fingered retard on a broken sax.
 
2012-11-24 03:08:37 PM  
Not deader than dead but surely over analyzed and intellectualized and rife with kenny g wannabe smooth fusion jiveass honky chuckleheads.

All the real bona-fide reefer addict downtown hipsters know there is no more satisfying sound on this planet than

the jazz messengers

monk

mingus

miles

then again.....yeah it probably is dead.
 
2012-11-24 03:30:33 PM  

cryinoutloud: Nogale: Most jazz music bores me to tears.
Blues, on the other hand, makes me stupid happy....

I really hate jazz music. It's like country music--I'll turn it off and sit in silence rather than have to listen to it. And while country music just annoys me, jazz drives me right up the wall. I like my music to have a little order to it. But I do like the blues.


Another good reason I have you fav'd.

As a rule, when there's a jazz thread on Fark I crap all over it. Just don't have the energy this afternoon. Besides which I'm fairly certain most Fark jazz lovers aren't even seeing this post, 'cos...y'know.
 
2012-11-24 03:40:44 PM  
All pop(ular) music becomes unpopular. And eventually, it gets recycled.

The fourth wave of instrumental surf music came and went fast, yet Dick Dale played here in town Thanksgiving evening.

The article tells of the link between what the author defines as jazz and the great American songbook. Jazz, like rock and roll as well as funk, describes a rhythmic pop music with a sexual term. And as long as a performer improvises, jazz lives... just like Gregorian chants, baroque, classical, romantic, modern, and other concert music genres.

Oh, and subby? There are other hugely important American contributions to culture... in music we can include the Broadway musical and its offshoot film musicals, rock and roll, blues, hip hop, rap, and many others... and what about comic strips, comic books, pop art, Jackson Pollack, Jasper Johns, hot rods, drag racing, NASCAR, western movies and TV shows, etc. Jazz is important, but perhaps not the most important. We can include all of TV, the internet, and many recent elements of high tech communication as well.
 
2012-11-24 03:41:00 PM  

John Buck 41: Another good reason I have you fav'd.
As a rule, when there's a jazz thread on Fark I crap all over it. Just don't have the energy this afternoon. Besides which I'm fairly certain most Fark jazz lovers aren't even seeing this post, 'cos...y'know.


Yes, someone is always offended, or tells me that I'm not intelligent enough to get it, or that I have no taste or something, but sorry, I'm not trying to be----uh, whatever it is people try to be. Jazz music drives me right up a tree.

My local NPR station plays a lot of it (right now, in fact) and while I'll keep NPR on quietly in the background most of the time, even through the kiddie hour, when I hear that jazz show starting (along with the smmooooth tones of the announcer) I have to turn it off.
 
2012-11-24 03:41:40 PM  

Rann Xerox: aspAddict: [www.vervemusicgroup.com image 400x400]

Don't care much for her music, but she makes a decent album cover. 

/That's right, Diana...now let's try one without the top...

This lady doesn't do "decent album covers" like Diana Krall:

[i78.photobucket.com image 640x494]

But, then again, I stopped buying albums based on what was on the cover when I reached the age of reason.


I like Krall myself, but I'm always willing to try something new. Can you recommend a particular Barber album?
 
2012-11-24 03:48:13 PM  
taildom.com

What jazz sounds like.
 
2012-11-24 03:50:08 PM  
i.qkme.me
 
2012-11-24 03:59:27 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: cryinoutloud: I really hate jazz music. It's like country music


I cant see what you did there.
 
2012-11-24 04:04:12 PM  
If jazz is dead, I think that that Ken Burns documentary, which is really the only truly bad one he's done, probably had about as big a role in it, by cramming all jazz done after 1960 into one segment and having Wynton Marsalis coming in to shiat all over it.
 
2012-11-24 04:06:36 PM  
Eh, just get 4 guys to play different songs at the same time.
 
2012-11-24 04:11:01 PM  
I used to enjoy most of the CTI (& Kudu) Record music.
 
2012-11-24 04:14:58 PM  
 
2012-11-24 04:21:25 PM  
www.beehivecity.com
Niiiice
 
2012-11-24 04:22:54 PM  
That got resized incorrectly. Strange.
 
2012-11-24 04:35:53 PM  
HongKong Cavaliers calling it quits?
 
2012-11-24 04:42:46 PM  
Jazz died when white people took it over.
 
2012-11-24 04:54:34 PM  

John Buck 41: [taildom.com image 640x359]

What jazz sounds like to people with the musical curiosity of a dog.


There. That's better.
 
2012-11-24 05:01:51 PM  
Only jazz album I like:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-24 05:08:46 PM  
now, we can all listen to the notes they're not playing.
 
2012-11-24 05:14:23 PM  
Drinking + Jazz Music = Great way to relax.
 
2012-11-24 05:16:05 PM  
Has anyone mentioned that rock and roll was America's most important contribution to culture? I mean we completely changed the world with it.
 
2012-11-24 05:17:58 PM  

swahnhennessy: theflatline: Thank god my home town New Orleans still exists, and as long as it does jazz will not die.

/and please just say no to european jazz fusion.

The Europeans are some of the only ones bringing innovation to jazz. New Orleans is mostly a museum.


6.5/10.
 
2012-11-24 05:34:40 PM  
Leave it to the douchebags at The Atlantic to publish a douchey article about the end of Jazz music.
This is the equivalent of the necon's End of History nonsense.

/Get a clue, pseudo-intellectual hipsters.
 
2012-11-24 05:39:33 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: now, we can all listen to the notes they're not playing.


Link
 
2012-11-24 05:58:29 PM  

theflatline: Thank god my home town New Orleans still exists, and as long as it does jazz will not die.


Off topic, but I was in New Orleans a couple month ago. There were about a dozen kids right where Bourbon street playing the horns and drums. I had forgotten how nice a good horn section can sound, shame you don't hear them that much in bands today.
 
2012-11-24 07:09:19 PM  

WTF Indeed: Hell, in a few years Rock n' Roll will be as "dead" as Jazz is.


I have been hearing this since the 60's. Good luck with that.
 
2012-11-24 07:27:41 PM  
Maybe the classical image of jazz is fading but the genre is still alive and well. You just have to listen for what the musicians in groups are doing. There is a lot trained jazz musicians doing jam bands, hip hop and electronic music and working towards getting jazz harmonies more in the public ear. We realize that it would be almost impossible to make a living doing it in the old style so we adapted.

It isn't dead, it just changed it's coat.
 
2012-11-24 07:53:37 PM  
The Gershwins' "I Got Rhythm" alone begat Sidney Bechet's "Shag"; Lester Young's "Lester Leaps In"; Count Basie's "Jump for Me"; Duke Ellington's "Cotton Tail" and "Love You Madly"; Dizzy Gillespie's "Dizzy Atmosphere"; Parker's "Red Cross," "Dexterity," "Moose the Mooche," and "Steeple Chase"; Thelonious Monk's "Rhythm-a-Ning"; Davis's "Swing Spring" and "The Theme"; and Sonny Rollins's "Oleo," among many other compositions


Not to mention The Flinstones theme
 
2012-11-24 08:09:13 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: Blues not Jazz, is the most important

 
2012-11-24 08:41:16 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

The San Francisco Jazz Center is under construction about three blocks from my apartment. I don't think it's dead yet.
 
2012-11-24 08:46:53 PM  

fastfxr: As I've alway said, jazz is for middle-aged men questioning their sexual orientation.


Well you should stop saying it because it doesn't make any damn sense.

/only likes about 5-10 minutes of jazz at a time, seems like it's more fun to play than listen to.
 
2012-11-24 09:05:26 PM  
No more jazz? Now what are poseurs going to pretend they like in a sad attempt to appear intelligent?
 
2012-11-24 09:14:48 PM  
You can't kill jazz. Even if the musician dies, the music lives on.

I'm looking at you, Oscar Peterson, Thelonious Monk, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Dave Brubeck . . .
 
2012-11-24 09:21:54 PM  

jake_lex: If jazz is dead, I think that that Ken Burns documentary, which is really the only truly bad one he's done, probably had about as big a role in it, by cramming all jazz done after 1960 into one segment and having Wynton Marsalis coming in to shiat all over it.


I gave up on it after the third (or was it fourth) episode where they spent the whole time continuously fellating Louis Armstrong. I get it, the man was a pioneer and a genius and we owe everything to him, but moving on.... When I got tipped off (I think here on Fark) that Monk, Mingus, Coltrane, and even later Miles all got rushed through as an afterthought I decided I didn't need to see any more.
 
2012-11-24 09:36:05 PM  

Richard Roma: No more jazz? Now what are poseurs going to pretend they like in a sad attempt to appear intelligent?


+a billion
 
2012-11-24 09:54:35 PM  

Bukharin: ...Europeans seem to be much more comfortable with it (except for the avant-garde/non danceable variety.)


You couldn't be more wrong. Europe has always been the place to go. Heck, the 80's-90's lower-East-side avant-garde scene did better over there than in the actual LES.
 
2012-11-24 09:55:05 PM  

Richard Roma: No more jazz? Now what are poseurs going to pretend they like in a sad attempt to appear intelligent?


Probably Prog Rock or the Doors.
 
2012-11-24 09:57:33 PM  
jazz is unspeakably boring
 
2012-11-24 10:10:39 PM  
There's still Joshua Redman, Soulive, John Scofield, Charlie Hunter, Madeleine Peyroux, Victor Wooten, Medeski Martin & Wood, and others still making jazz and jazz-like music. Hell, Keith Jarrett still kicks ass, and he's playing in Jersey next month.

/though, for my money, it hasn't gotten any "better" since the late 50s/mid 60s
 
2012-11-24 10:23:43 PM  
I used to refuse to give jazz a chance, but I started buying jazz albums from various eras 4 years ago, and my experience as a music listener has been greatly enriched for it.

But yes, as a living, relevant entity, jazz is pretty much dead.
 
2012-11-24 10:38:16 PM  

cryinoutloud: Nogale: Most jazz music bores me to tears.
Blues, on the other hand, makes me stupid happy....

I really hate jazz music. It's like country music--I'll turn it off and sit in silence rather than have to listen to it. And while country music just annoys me, jazz drives me right up the wall. ....


Ditto.
 
2012-11-24 10:47:13 PM  

borg: The San Francisco Jazz Center


Meanwhile, your mom is the San Francisco JIZZ Center.
 
2012-11-24 10:50:47 PM  
I woke up this morning and cranked over some Lester Young while I was making coffee. Bouncing around the house I put on some Coltrane. Had the kids in the car running some errands and my son asked for me to put on some Louis Armstrong. Tonight while I was making dinner I had Mingus going.

If Jazz is dead then you couldn't tell from the inside of my house and life.
 
2012-11-24 11:11:56 PM  
Jazz is my spiritual medicine. It just puts a big smile on my face.

It's not surprising the single kernel peabrains of Fark's mouthbreather population can't process anything that isn't linear. Ugh, tragedy really.

/now stfu and go design some algorithm or whatever poindexters. I've got a date with a smokin' jazz-loving lady who does things a 4chan jpeg could never possibly fathom.
 
2012-11-24 11:27:09 PM  

Bonanza Jellybean: There's still Joshua Redman, Soulive, John Scofield, Charlie Hunter, Madeleine Peyroux, Victor Wooten, Medeski Martin & Wood, and others still making jazz and jazz-like music. Hell, Keith Jarrett still kicks ass, and he's playing in Jersey next month.

/though, for my money, it hasn't gotten any "better" since the late 50s/mid 60s


For me, Jazz really kind of peaked with the Hard Bop movement of the late 50s, early 60s. After that it was Samba/Bossa Nova, which wasn't bad in itself but which paved the way for Jazz Fusion. Which itself had some real masterpieces (Herbie Hancock's Headhunters is one of my top-ten favorite records); but most of it, being made by lesser musicians, sounds like fark-grooves from low-budget pornography. And that was about that.

Also, I have the same problems with Free Jazz as I do with modern classical music, in that it is far too often atonal for atonality's sake. Not just non-melodic, but actively anti-melodic. It can be interesting as an intellectual exercise, but too often that's about it.
 
2012-11-24 11:29:51 PM  
I don't keep dogs or women in my room

/like all things...some is unbelievably good and most is average to mediocre to crap..but the jazz I like I love
 
2012-11-24 11:32:55 PM  
 
2012-11-24 11:42:36 PM  
on green dolphin street

/I even went to my record collection to get the name...

Hate that people that hate that! Vinyl. UGH!
 
2012-11-24 11:46:17 PM  

SmitetheRighteous: Jazz is my spiritual medicine. It just puts a big smile on my face.

It's not surprising the single kernel peabrains of Fark's mouthbreather population can't process anything that isn't linear.


Wow. That's the stupidest argument yet for jazz.
 
2012-11-25 12:07:25 AM  

Thunderboy: Bukharin: ...Europeans seem to be much more comfortable with it (except for the avant-garde/non danceable variety.)

You couldn't be more wrong. Europe has always been the place to go. Heck, the 80's-90's lower-East-side avant-garde scene did better over there than in the actual LES.


I think you should reread my post. I was referring specifically to the homosexuals I know and their attitudes on Jazz. The American homosexuals in general, do not like Jazz unless it is of the 'broadway' style, and the European homosexuals tend to enjoy it in a much broader variety, especially favouring the danceable versions.
 
2012-11-25 12:07:59 AM  
 
2012-11-25 12:11:38 AM  
one of my favorite favorite songs regardless the genre:
last one of the night
 
2012-11-25 12:30:50 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Only jazz album I like:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x300]


MUSTAPHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
2012-11-25 12:33:21 AM  
a great big F You to article authors who enjoy over the top sweeping dramatic untruths. dooshbags. the Jazz scene is as alive and vibrant as ever.

and for you dooshbags who are not aware, the only two original American contributions to the Arts are Jazz music and Comic Books.
 
2012-11-25 12:55:26 AM  

JosephFinn: I like Krall myself, but I'm always willing to try something new. Can you recommend a particular Barber album?


It's not that I dislike Krall - she's got a good voice and some real talent on the piano. Her music is just too...flighty. I prefer my music all rigid and structured - her music is like a butterfly flitting all over the place. My gf ADORES Krall and I often get "treated" to day-long marathons.

It's decent "mood music" though... ;)
 
2012-11-25 01:43:53 AM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: Blues not Jazz, is the most important


Came here to say this.

Jazz sucks. "It's the notes they don't play," my ass. If you judge the music I make by the notes I don't play, I'm farking Mozart reborn.
 
2012-11-25 02:06:01 AM  

phaseolus: The Gershwins' "I Got Rhythm" alone begat Sidney Bechet's "Shag"; Lester Young's "Lester Leaps In"; Count Basie's "Jump for Me"; Duke Ellington's "Cotton Tail" and "Love You Madly"; Dizzy Gillespie's "Dizzy Atmosphere"; Parker's "Red Cross," "Dexterity," "Moose the Mooche," and "Steeple Chase"; Thelonious Monk's "Rhythm-a-Ning"; Davis's "Swing Spring" and "The Theme"; and Sonny Rollins's "Oleo," among many other compositions


Not to mention The Flinstones theme

The Jetsons theme.

You also know Take 5, Caravan, It Don't Mean a Think if It Ain't Got That Swing.
 
2012-11-25 02:45:12 AM  
www.gretschdrums.com

Begs to differ.
 
2012-11-25 05:57:08 AM  

Richard Roma: No more jazz? Now what are poseurs going to pretend they like in a sad attempt to appear intelligent?


http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/11/18/116-black-music-that-black - people-dont-listen-to-anymore/
 
2012-11-25 06:05:57 AM  

Richard Roma: No more jazz? Now what are poseurs going to pretend they like in a sad attempt to appear intelligent?


Elton John
 
2012-11-25 08:31:22 AM  
www.grooveeffect.com
 
2012-11-25 08:41:40 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

www.musicreview.co.za
 
2012-11-25 09:53:47 AM  

HotWingAgenda: You can't kill jazz. Even if the musician dies, the music lives on.

I'm looking at you, Oscar Peterson, Thelonious Monk, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Dave Brubeck . . .


Brubeck is still very much alive.
 
2012-11-25 10:52:58 AM  

JosephFinn: Rann Xerox: aspAddict: [www.vervemusicgroup.com image 400x400]

Don't care much for her music, but she makes a decent album cover. 

/That's right, Diana...now let's try one without the top...

This lady doesn't do "decent album covers" like Diana Krall:

[i78.photobucket.com image 640x494]

But, then again, I stopped buying albums based on what was on the cover when I reached the age of reason.

I like Krall myself, but I'm always willing to try something new. Can you recommend a particular Barber album?


Try "Verse". There are some great tunes on it.
 
2012-11-25 10:57:47 AM  

Metaluna Mutant: Jazz died when white people took it over.


I definitely beg to differ
 
2012-11-25 11:46:44 AM  

Rann Xerox: JosephFinn: Rann Xerox: aspAddict: [www.vervemusicgroup.com image 400x400]

Don't care much for her music, but she makes a decent album cover. 

/That's right, Diana...now let's try one without the top...

This lady doesn't do "decent album covers" like Diana Krall:

[i78.photobucket.com image 640x494]

But, then again, I stopped buying albums based on what was on the cover when I reached the age of reason.

I like Krall myself, but I'm always willing to try something new. Can you recommend a particular Barber album?

Try "Verse". There are some great tunes on it.


Thank you!
 
2012-11-25 02:24:32 PM  

Rann Xerox: Metaluna Mutant: Jazz died when white people took it over.

I definitely beg to differ



Heh. I saw a link and thought to myself "If that's not a Bill Evans track I'll have to find a good one to concur with..."
 
2012-11-26 04:05:46 AM  
The best definition of jazz I ever heard was "the only art form to be wildly popular in every country of the world, except the one it was born in."

An exaggeration, of course, but jazz is still chugging along quite well around the world, even if the golden age has passed. Lots of kids with no connection whatsoever to jazz's roots still pick up their instruments and jam away.
 
2012-11-26 11:07:11 AM  
I love jazz. It's not as mainstream as it once was, but there are lots of great musicians out there playing it right now: Mulgrew Miller, Joshua Redman, Larry Willis, Ravi Coltrane, Patricia Barber, Melody Gardot, Diana Krall, Jacky Terrason, Cassandra Wilson, John Scofield, Pat Metheny, Ariel Pocock, Brad Mehldau, Charlie Hunter... Just to name a few. Lots of talented new artists are always popping up on the scene, too.
 
2012-11-26 11:13:02 AM  
pciszek

Re: "A short history of modern African-American music"

True, sad and hilarious at the same time.
 
2012-11-26 05:33:19 PM  

aspAddict: [www.vervemusicgroup.com image 400x400]

Don't care much for her music, but she makes a decent album cover. 

/That's right, Diana...now let's try one without the top...


Why does she sounds bored in all her songs? It gets on my nerves.

It's like shes a hipster jazz musician. 'I'm singing this song for the proletariat, but I'm thinking about a much better one. It's really obscure. You haven't heard of it.'
/I did try to like her
//for Costello's sake
 
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