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(CNN)   "Just say no to playing Indian" says columnist whose name translates to "She who has stick firmly jammed up rectum"   (inamerica.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 94
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2012-11-24 11:35:12 AM  
13 votes:
As an American Indian, I read the first sentence and said three things:

1 - Shut the fark up, you dumb biatch. You don't speak for me or anyone else in my family.

2 - If you were born in this country, you are a "native" American, so knock off that PC bullshiat - it's offensive to me. I'm both a "native" American and an American Indian of the Creek and Lakota tribes.

3 - My grandmother would slap your arrogant, disrespectful face if she were still alive and tell you to look to your own backyard before blaming someone else for the condition of theirs--and she called herself a "squaw" unapologetically and was not only not insulted by the term, but damned proud of her heritage, which she could trace beyond the Trail of Tears and the Dawes and Oakes Rolls. You should be too. Instead, you're so ashamed of who and what you are, you blame the children of immigrants (which I am also - my father was of Scottish descent) for your own low self-worth.


/farking whiny brats looking to take racist offense in everything. This country has moved beyond the 1700's and 1800s, maybe they should too.
2012-11-24 09:57:34 AM  
9 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Some people think it's fine to celebrate their heritage. And believe it or not they have a lot of fun with it. Y'all should get yourself some fun.

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Celebration of ones own heritage is not what's at issue, and no one has a problem with it. What they have a problem with are people doing the equivalent of wearing blackface. Not cool.
2012-11-24 09:51:08 AM  
7 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Some people think it's fine to celebrate their heritage. And believe it or not they have a lot of fun with it. Y'all should get yourself some fun.


Their heritage. Not somebody else's.
2012-11-24 09:36:56 AM  
7 votes:

dugitman: FTFA: According to congressional findings of the  2010 Tribal Law & Order Act    , 34% of American Indian and Alaska Native women will be raped; 39% will be subjected to domestic violence. That is more than twice the national average. In addition, the 2008 study by the  National Institute of Justice suggests that on some reservations, Native women are murdered at more than 10 times the rate of their non-native counterparts.
In the past year, Native advocacy leaders have made a push to reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act in Congress. The law would empower tribes for the first time to seek justice against non-Indian offenders.
 
I know next to nothing about this subject, but it seems counterintuitive that violence against NA women is being overwhelmingly committed by non-NA men. Is her point that: fetishizing the NA image in entertainment has spilled over onto the reservations and created a misogynistic environment in the NA community? Because I thought that environment has been there all along.


I was taught that the NA cultures were matrilineal. Maybe the violence is a result of placing a group of people in a human petting zoo?
2012-11-24 11:37:44 AM  
5 votes:

Make More Hinjews: 5) Ergo: dress-up games are complicated affairs, which depend on context. OPINION: Avoid dressing up like a person from another culture unless invited to do so by that culture's members, because it's waaaaay too easy to screw up (and when you do screw up, those who get offended may very well have a point).


If I was native American I'd be more offended by the ghetto-like state of the reservations than by some idiot that wanted to play dress-up. But no one's going to write an article about that, because that's boring and depressing and apparently not an issue that anyone wants to deal with.

These people need jobs, quality schools and rehab centers, not some patronising token measure of respect.
2012-11-24 10:46:08 AM  
5 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: RexTalionis: 1) You were the one said "celebrating their heritage." Stick to your fact pattern, please.

Pardon me. Some people think it's fine to celebrate a heritage. And believe it or not they have a lot of fun with it. Y'all should get yourself some fun.

Better?

RexTalionis: 2) How can you be so obtuse that you can't recognize the difference between celebrating a culture respectfully and exploiting and co-opting one for financial and social benefits?

How can you be such a farking tightass that you can't recognize the difference between having fun and being a farking tightass? Oh wait...you're a victim, aren't you?


I think one of the big differences is Oktoberfest celebrates the "fun" parts of German culture (drinking, food, and parties). Most of the Native American things I've seen make fun of their religion, paint the Native Americans as uneducated drunks, and celebrate their genocide.

I doubt many Jewish people would think it was funny if the Germans all got together for a fest mocking their religion. They could call it Holofest.
2012-11-24 10:30:38 AM  
5 votes:

RexTalionis: Dancin_In_Anson: RexTalionis: Their heritage. Not somebody else's.

Rincewind53: Celebration of ones own heritage is not what's at issue

Yeah, everyone that was at Wurstfest dressed up drinking beer and shoveling sausages and schnitzels into their faces last month were German. My bad.

1) You were the one said "celebrating their heritage." Stick to your fact pattern, please.

2) How can you be so obtuse that you can't recognize the difference between celebrating a culture respectfully and exploiting and co-opting one for financial and social benefits?


DIA is ALWAYS obtuse. He will never answer your questions. I don't know what it is, but he is simple unable to actually honestly answer a simple question. He always has to slightly change the topic to one that he likes and get all butthurt and self-righteous over very little.

Basically, it's like a high-functioning 4 year old running around.
2012-11-24 08:57:19 AM  
5 votes:

Barfmaker: Does there come a point where we can borrow from other cultures simply for "the look"? At what point does it become insulting?


This is fine:
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This is stupid:
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2012-11-24 12:05:57 PM  
4 votes:
I've always wondered how many cultures were lost or wiped out by other Native American tribes before the Europeans came.

There's a myth that's mostly believed by hippies and social justice groups that Native Americans lived in harmony with one another and the "white man" destroyed that. But looking at the history of the world, you know that can't be true. Every other culture had wars. Every culture. You could even go a bit south and see this in the Mesoamerica and South American cultures.
2012-11-24 10:09:15 AM  
4 votes:
As another Native American Heritage Month comes to an end, I have to stop and ask, did anybody other than Native folks even know it was taking place?

Does anyone care about these dedicated months they don't get paid vacation for? No.

Get your people together, organize a REAL holiday, and lobby for some time off work. Preferably slave to a Friday so it's a long weekend kickoff every time.

The Native American peoples were on of the foundations of our country. America is more like the Five Nations than England in spirit. We should learn more about the Iroquois. Out west, the Sioux, Comanche, and the rest were instrumental in shaping the country and culture as well. And the languages could be preserved much better if we could get some reason to start using them again. A new national holiday would spark at least some interest, if not generate cash flow, etc.
2012-11-24 09:28:24 AM  
4 votes:
FTFA: According to congressional findings of the  2010 Tribal Law & Order Act    , 34% of American Indian and Alaska Native women will be raped; 39% will be subjected to domestic violence. That is more than twice the national average. In addition, the 2008 study by the  National Institute of Justice suggests that on some reservations, Native women are murdered at more than 10 times the rate of their non-native counterparts.
In the past year, Native advocacy leaders have made a push to reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act in Congress. The law would empower tribes for the first time to seek justice against non-Indian offenders.

 
I know next to nothing about this subject, but it seems counterintuitive that violence against NA women is being overwhelmingly committed by non-NA men. Is her point that: fetishizing the NA image in entertainment has spilled over onto the reservations and created a misogynistic environment in the NA community? Because I thought that environment has been there all along.
2012-11-24 08:17:11 AM  
4 votes:
Does there come a point where we can borrow from other cultures simply for "the look"? At what point does it become insulting?
2012-11-24 07:55:33 AM  
4 votes:
As another Native American Heritage Month comes to an end, I have to stop and ask, did anybody other than Native folks even know it was taking place?

Nope.
2012-11-24 04:07:58 PM  
3 votes:

coscausticevil: i can't believe people still think this kind of thing isn't offensive and disrespectful. it really needs to end, but it won't stop unless people do something about it. we would need a lot of people on board to finally stop the disrespect. a large, well trained group of people who can recognize offensive use of native imagery. yeah, like an army. then this "army" could round up all offensive mascots, headdresses, dream catchers, etc and stop ignorant people from dishonoring them. maybe put Native American symbols in their own special place, some place just for them where they could stay apart from the rest of American culture. anybody with me?


If you're American Indian, by all means, get your knickers in a twist if, for some reason, you feel offended or disrespected.

If you're not American Indian, do not speak for me. Do not get offended on my behalf or that of my family or tribes. Do not tell me I should feel disrespected or angry on behalf of my family, tribes, or ancestors. My grandmother was a full-blooded American Indian who married a white man. My mother is half who also married a white man. I am one-fourth and I also married a white man (who I divorced because he was an asshole, not because he was white). All of my sisters married white men, and one of my brothers married a Puerto Rican woman. Several of my cousins married black men. I have dated Latinos, black men, and Asian men, as well as an Indian man (from India).

I was raised to believe it is a person's character, not their skin color, that attracts or repels people. It is a person's words and actions that offend and a person's words and actions that are disrespectful. To call a sports team "Chiefs" or "Indians" or "Redskins" (which happens to be my favorite football team) is neither offensive nor disrespectful to me as an American Indian... but then, I do not look for reasons to be offended.

What is offensive and disrespectful was what happened to American Indians in the 1800s. It is no less offensive and disrespectful than what happened to the blacks in much of the world throughout the 1700s and 1800s, what happened to the Jews in Europe and the Japanese Americans (though it doesn't even come close to a comparison to what the Jews suffered) in the 1940s, what is happening to Christians in parts of the world today, what is happening to women in parts of Africa today, what is happening to gays and lesbians in parts of the world today...the list goes on. The difference is that we don't live in the 1800s anymore, the Federal Government of the United States of America has recognized the grievous wrong committed against the American Indian, and has restored some areas of land - however small in comparison to the size of the areas the tribes once controlled - to sovereign control of the tribes and has made monetary reparations - however small - to the descendants of those whose names are on the Dawes and Oakes Rolls (census taken before and after the Trail of Tears). The US Government has paid - as best they could - for their crimes. It is well past time we let history BE history; learn from it so that it can never be repeated, but recognize that this is America - a place where many cultures come together and, hopefully, we take the best of all of them to become something new.

Pretty hard to be an American from the United States when everyone's so busy biatching and being offended over something they never suffered while pointing the finger at someone who never farking oppressed them.
2012-11-24 12:48:52 PM  
3 votes:

WhippingBoy: KatjaMouse: Actually from my understanding, especially from a lot of reading in Women's Studies

 
And that's where everyone stopped reading and tagged you as "person whose opinion is meaningless".
 
Speak for yourself, paleface. I asked a question, and she answered it giving context to her familiarity with the subject(with qualified self-deprecating humor). That's kinda what we do on discussion forums in adultland.
2012-11-24 12:43:27 PM  
3 votes:
In the case of say, Victoria's Secret, it's less "OMG that's offensive!" and more "hey look, white people boiling down a culture (that was pretty much stomped out by them 150 years ago) in order to sell crap."

The "sell crap" is an important part of why this is kinda uncool.

And yes, improving reservation life is more important than getting rid of stereotypes in advertising. But it turns out, one of those requires a lot of money, time, and effort put into social change, and one requires three or four articles calling Victoria's Secret dicks.
2012-11-24 12:09:46 PM  
3 votes:
Once you convince people they should feel guilty for something they didn't do, you've got 'em.
2012-11-24 11:19:06 AM  
3 votes:

S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: As a white American, I don't take Native American's "rights" seriously, because on average, 9 out of 10 NA's I've dealt with (in Arizona) are less inclined to do something about it than I am. For this French writer chick, It's like trying to play the black card but you have no Jesse Jacksons or Al Sharptons up your sleeve.


Actually, according to the tagline, she's a member of the Pueblo nation. Not all Native Americans are named Running Bear or Little Wolf. I'm Jewish but don't have a Jewish last name.
2012-11-24 11:18:09 AM  
3 votes:
On one hand, I'd love to have a serious talk about cultural appropriation.

On the other hand, I'm willing to wager that most of the people on Fark are more content practicing their subconscious racism. It fits right in with the subconscious misogyny, homophobia, and overt cultural hegemony that is so prevalent here.

Oh, and DIA has been pretty racist for pretty much all of the last ten years I've been reading this site, so I'm not sure why people are surprised about what he's saying now.
2012-11-24 11:03:23 AM  
3 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson:

Funny you say that. McMurray University was threatened with sanctions by the NCAA unless they dropped their Indian mascot even though the history of the school is steeped in American Indian history. Must have been over my butthurt or something right?


No it isn't it's a Methodist Univ. founded in 1923.
2012-11-24 10:15:02 AM  
3 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: RexTalionis: Their heritage. Not somebody else's.

Rincewind53: Celebration of ones own heritage is not what's at issue

Yeah, everyone that was at Wurstfest dressed up drinking beer and shoveling sausages and schnitzels into their faces last month were German. My bad.


1) You were the one said "celebrating their heritage." Stick to your fact pattern, please.

2) How can you be so obtuse that you can't recognize the difference between celebrating a culture respectfully and exploiting and co-opting one for financial and social benefits?
2012-11-24 09:16:27 AM  
3 votes:

Snarfangel: You mean the younger generation won't have the fun of playing Cowboys and Casinos?


that reminded me...

It is still okay to play Cowboys and Redskins...
2012-11-24 11:47:25 AM  
2 votes:
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Och! Priced so low even a cheap thrifty Scotsman would buy it!

The problem with non-asian minorities is, they seem to think that they're the only ones for whom stereotypes exist.
2012-11-24 11:43:31 AM  
2 votes:

Make More Hinjews: Oy.

Let me lay out my opinions here, in case anyone cares:

1) Cultures represent our tribal history. Everyone belongs to a tribe. Some are family-esque or bigger, thus giving them an air of permanence, and some are ephemeral (like the fandom of a sports team, for example).

2) Often, cross-cultural interaction carries with it intense baggage related to past and/or current oppression - from mockery up through genocide - of one culture by another.

3) OPINION: Relics of such hostile, domineering interactions should be avoided, or, better yet, addressed in an appropriate forum with due resolution and reverence for the subject matter, where possible.

4) That being said, if we did not periodically "dabble" in each other's cultures, it would be as if to ignore that we're on this planet together. Cross-cultural interaction, complete with "borrowing," happens all the time, literally everywhere. What makes us human is culture, and what makes us vibrant is that those cultures are many and they interact.

5) Ergo: dress-up games are complicated affairs, which depend on context. OPINION: Avoid dressing up like a person from another culture unless invited to do so by that culture's members, because it's waaaaay too easy to screw up (and when you do screw up, those who get offended may very well have a point).

6) OPINION: That being said, see #4. We can't get away from each other, and encouraging everyone to silo their culture isn't just unrealistic, it's actually dangerous. We shouldn't avoid each other - there's too much of that going on already.


I'm not in the least bit offended by Stefani's video or Victoria's Secret's headdress. Stefani is, in fact, part of a multi-racial/cultural band, and I seriously doubt the intent was racist. But that keyhole dress thing was hideous. She should've apologized for whatever the hell that thing was supposed to be instead of the rest of the video. Ugh.

As for the Victoria's Secret show... first, VS models are among the most tasteful in the business for underwear models. The fact that they are required to maintain a healthy body weight rather than be anorexic is a point in their favor. I thought the headdress was tasteful and attractive and just as many American Indians shop at Victoria's Secret as non American Indians, so I fail to see the problem except for a bunch of jackasses getting their knickers in a twist over "zomg! A headdress associated with American Indians! It must be racist!" farkwits. If it had been an American Indian model, would there still have been such an outcry, I wonder?
2012-11-24 11:41:59 AM  
2 votes:

mat catastrophe: I like how we've reached a place in post-racial America where it's OK to keep perpetuating stereotypes because we're all equal and it's all just in fun and everything's peachy and OK.


What is this place you speak of? It's always been strange to me for people to deny their own nature. I you've ever travelled anywhere outside the USA you quickly realize that America is the least racist place on earth. It's in your instincts to distrust those outside your own group. While I'm all legal equality, cultural and emotional equality are unattainable.
2012-11-24 11:31:59 AM  
2 votes:

Ryan2065: I think one of the big differences is Oktoberfest celebrates the "fun" parts of German culture (drinking, food, and parties). Most of the Native American things I've seen make fun of their religion, paint the Native Americans as uneducated drunks, and celebrate their genocide.


Really? I've never seen that... I've seen people dress up in feathered headdresses and dance around making nonsensical chants, but that seems about on par with dressing up in leiderhosen and dancing a silly jig as far as offensiveness... It's just drunken people having silly fun... When has anyone ever "celebrate[d] their genocide"? Seriously??

/Part Cherokee...
2012-11-24 11:08:04 AM  
2 votes:
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I'm OK with this.

/Get over yourself, Ms. Sandy Vagina.
2012-11-24 11:05:17 AM  
2 votes:

randomjsa: As another Native American Heritage Month comes to an end, I have to stop and ask, did anybody other than Native folks even know it was taking place?

Yes, but like every other month dedicated to certain issues...

We didn't care.

It's not unlike certain holidays. Most people consider Halloween to be a silly holiday where we give candy to children. Some people place some highly personal significance on it... Do you think they care what you think?


My personal favorite story about Victim History Months is at one organization I worked at, Black employees complained in a conference that "Of course Whitey would make Black History Month in February, the shortest month of the year, to oppress us!"

/Increasingly with Non-Asian Minorities, I can't tell if they really mean what they are saying or are just using the threat of smeering people as racist - which has very real professional and legal consequences - to get more goodies
2012-11-24 10:58:47 AM  
2 votes:

GAT_00: DIA is ALWAYS obtuse. He will never answer your questions. I don't know what it is, but he is simple unable to actually honestly answer a simple question. He always has to slightly change the topic to one that he likes and get all butthurt and self-righteous over very little.


Awwww...Whatsamatta, Pumpkin. No Muppet thread for you to whine in?

RexTalionis: Well, so we've established that you are obtuse. And you sound awfully butthurt about it in the process.


I'm not the one complaining about people dressing up in costumes that are of other cultures. Indeed I'm the one that thinks it can be fun..and is most of the time. But tell me again that makes me "obtuse" and "butthurt".

Ryan2065: I think one of the big differences is Oktoberfest celebrates the "fun" parts of German culture (drinking, food, and parties). Most of the Native American things I've seen make fun of their religion, paint the Native Americans as uneducated drunks, and celebrate their genocide.


Funny you say that. McMurray University was threatened with sanctions by the NCAA unless they dropped their Indian mascot even though the history of the school is steeped in American Indian history. Must have been over my butthurt or something right?
2012-11-24 10:58:02 AM  
2 votes:
As another Native American Heritage Month comes to an end, I have to stop and ask, did anybody other than Native folks even know it was taking place?

Yes, but like every other month dedicated to certain issues...

We didn't care.

It's not unlike certain holidays. Most people consider Halloween to be a silly holiday where we give candy to children. Some people place some highly personal significance on it... Do you think they care what you think?
2012-11-24 10:37:37 AM  
2 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: How can you be such a farking tightass that you can't recognize the difference between having fun and being a farking tightass? Oh wait...you're a victim, aren't you?


Well, so we've established that you are obtuse. And you sound awfully butthurt about it in the process.

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2012-11-24 10:27:24 AM  
2 votes:

RexTalionis: 1) You were the one said "celebrating their heritage." Stick to your fact pattern, please.


Pardon me. Some people think it's fine to celebrate a heritage. And believe it or not they have a lot of fun with it. Y'all should get yourself some fun.

Better?

RexTalionis: 2) How can you be so obtuse that you can't recognize the difference between celebrating a culture respectfully and exploiting and co-opting one for financial and social benefits?


How can you be such a farking tightass that you can't recognize the difference between having fun and being a farking tightass? Oh wait...you're a victim, aren't you?
2012-11-24 10:19:11 AM  
2 votes:

RexTalionis: Dancin_In_Anson: RexTalionis: Their heritage. Not somebody else's.

Rincewind53: Celebration of ones own heritage is not what's at issue

Yeah, everyone that was at Wurstfest dressed up drinking beer and shoveling sausages and schnitzels into their faces last month were German. My bad.

1) You were the one said "celebrating their heritage." Stick to your fact pattern, please.

2) How can you be so obtuse that you can't recognize the difference between celebrating a culture respectfully and exploiting and co-opting one for financial and social benefits?


Did someone mention exploiting and co-opting a culture for financial and social benefits?

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2012-11-24 10:12:58 AM  
2 votes:
2.bp.blogspot.com
2012-11-24 10:11:39 AM  
2 votes:

WorldCitizen: RexTalionis: Dancin_In_Anson: Some people think it's fine to celebrate their heritage. And believe it or not they have a lot of fun with it. Y'all should get yourself some fun.

Their heritage. Not somebody else's.

Yes, because everyone dressing up for St. Patrick's Day is of Irish heritage.


And the traditional Irish green bowler hat, fake red beard, and green dyed beer isn't in the least bit offensive. It's not like the Irish are a proud people who've been oppressed by English speakers in the past or anything.
2012-11-24 10:09:01 AM  
2 votes:

RexTalionis: Dancin_In_Anson: Some people think it's fine to celebrate their heritage. And believe it or not they have a lot of fun with it. Y'all should get yourself some fun.

Their heritage. Not somebody else's.


Yes, because everyone dressing up for St. Patrick's Day is of Irish heritage.
2012-11-24 10:03:43 AM  
2 votes:

RexTalionis: Their heritage. Not somebody else's.


Rincewind53: Celebration of ones own heritage is not what's at issue


Yeah, everyone that was at Wurstfest dressed up drinking beer and shoveling sausages and schnitzels into their faces last month were German. My bad.
2012-11-24 08:55:00 AM  
2 votes:

FriarReb98: Barfmaker: Does there come a point where we can borrow from other cultures simply for "the look"? At what point does it become insulting?

Right around the point where reason and logic are taken out of the equation.



That's not really helpful.
2012-11-24 08:41:59 AM  
2 votes:
If I want to pretend to run a convenience store I can.
2012-11-25 04:17:09 AM  
1 votes:

coco ebert: So you're saying it's legal to rape NA women? Or just that you cannot be prosecuted for it?

Somehow I find that impossible to believe.

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You cannot be prosecuted under tribal law if you are not part of the tribe, or district, or whatever you want to call it.

Say, for example, if the perpetrator of ANY crime is an average white man and a US citizen. US and state laws and procedures still apply if that guy commits a crime, no matter who the victim is.

What they're striving for is more akin to Sharia Law, above and beyond Federal/State law, and why it's pretty much ignored by any one with an IQ over 70 and not some hate mongering zealot.
2012-11-24 06:06:41 PM  
1 votes:

dugitman: FTFA: According to congressional findings of the  2010 Tribal Law & Order Act    , 34% of American Indian and Alaska Native women will be raped; 39% will be subjected to domestic violence. That is more than twice the national average. In addition, the 2008 study by the  National Institute of Justice suggests that on some reservations, Native women are murdered at more than 10 times the rate of their non-native counterparts.
In the past year, Native advocacy leaders have made a push to reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act in Congress. The law would empower tribes for the first time to seek justice against non-Indian offenders.
 
I know next to nothing about this subject, but it seems counterintuitive that violence against NA women is being overwhelmingly committed by non-NA men. Is her point that: fetishizing the NA image in entertainment has spilled over onto the reservations and created a misogynistic environment in the NA community? Because I thought that environment has been there all along.


Shockingly, Native women are being raped and killed by Native men. Kind of like black women are raped and killed by black men, white women by white men, etc. Crimes of violence are predominantly crimes of opportunity.

The high rates on reservations are due in large part to the appallingly high rates of poverty and alcoholism on the reservation, compounded by the low rate of law enforcement, and the closed society that refuses to cooperate with outside authorities.
2012-11-24 05:21:41 PM  
1 votes:

Nogale: Clemkadidlefark: Jenni Monet is a member of Native American Public Telecommunications, and a native of the Laguna Pueblo. Lives in Brooklyn.

Her film work is paid for by ... you guessed it ... rich white guilt riddled liberals otherwise known as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, with tax dollars taken from you against your will.

Speaks English, Spanish and Italian. Does not list Keresan, which would be her native language if Laguna. So, maybe she should cease pretending to be Italian.

This is the Butthurt Report Form in all its glory. (and a sure way to rise in the ranks of CNN ... condemn other Americans for being mean and insensitive)

And no, Braves fans are not going to stop doing the "chop".

Come on. What percentage of Native Americans - especially her generation - speak more than a few words of their nation's language?


But you see ... if she wants to dabble in Italian/Spanish culture, live in Brooklyn, take up Western Civilization, suckle the teats of the Yankee White Man's culture and make her money off the white guilt of liberals and gather unto herself the tax dollars many of us resent the hell out of being used to shift the culture away from the Constitution, the least the woman could do is be honest about her intentions.

As in being a tick.

Living off her host. Then scolding the host which feeds her with my tax dollars.

Is that clearer?
2012-11-24 04:51:45 PM  
1 votes:

Quantumbunny: Barfmaker: Quantumbunny: Historically, the term Indian when referring to the tribes of NA comes from the Spanish "In Dios", or "In God".

I read that it was because the first people who landed here thought they were in India.

Let's see... the Vikings predated him by hundreds of years, but they had no concept of India. The Chinese may have made it, though the evidence backing that isn't very extensive... and Columbus knew quite well he was not in India, so I wonder to whom you would be referring.


So I'm Norwegian, actually, and recently wondered how cardamom got to be such a big part of traditional Scandinavian cooking. It's an Indian spice, after all, and it needs a lot of light and heat to grow.

Turns out the Vikings established trade with India via the Silk Road possibly before 1000 and certainly by 1156.

The stereotype of Vikings as horn-helmeted stupid barbarians is cute and all but in the real world they were clever tradesmen and explorers.

And while Columbus learned of his mistake in his lifetime, he truly believed he had made it to India when he reached North America. The appellation stuck, unfortunately.
2012-11-24 04:12:17 PM  
1 votes:

RexTalionis: FriarReb98: And if it's a comedy, it's a farking joke and people like She Who Has Stick Up Her Butt That Has Stick Up Its Butt should just get over it.

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Yeah, that's horribly racist but this

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is just fine.

Actually, it is fine. Get over it.people. Stereotypes can be funny. There's no need to get offended at every little thing.
2012-11-24 03:05:51 PM  
1 votes:

gopher321: As another Native American Heritage Month comes to an end, I have to stop and ask, did anybody other than Native folks even know it was taking place?

Nope.


As the make up less than 1% of the population do they even rate a whole month.

Is it not culturally insenstive to lump all American Indian tribes into one group? There are major differencies between them just as there are differencies between Swedes and Greeks (white people) or Koreans and Japanese (Asians).
2012-11-24 02:36:53 PM  
1 votes:

Posh Naranek: moothemagiccow: "indian" doesn't mean "in dios"

Now stop spreading this nonsense.

A Cherokee elder (I'm not with the tribe, just visiting) got up and told us this before a dance once. It's not just an outsider's nonsense.


It's horseshiat masquerading as "the truth" like conspiracy theories. No one said it was exclusive horseshiat. The heathen natives who they killed or converted to christianity were obviously not god's people. That doesn't even make sense. Columbus's first letters refer to the "las Indias," the Indies. "In" is not even a Spanish preposition.
2012-11-24 02:25:21 PM  
1 votes:

Rik01: gopher321

As another Native American Heritage Month comes to an end, I have to stop and ask, did anybody other than Native folks even know it was taking place?

Nope.

Probably because it wasn't yammered about by the media and schools like Black History Month is, complete with little infomercials informing everyone about what Great Things assorted Black People have accomplished and nearly every city in the US has a Martin Luther King street. Nor do they have an obscure, 'native' holiday dug up and shoved on the people like 'Kwanzaa' was nor educated professors ...


Find me some non-native's living without water, education, economies, healthcare and hundreds of miles from civilization today in america. Find me a treaty the natives have broken with the US government.

i'll be waiting.

It's not the past, as bad as it was, it's the fact the present hasn't really changed from the past, It's 2012 and there's Canadian and American born and raised citizen's have to boil water just to survive. Of course, this isn't the general populations fault, they're just living their lives. This articles just farking stupid though.
2012-11-24 02:23:40 PM  
1 votes:

moothemagiccow: "indian" doesn't mean "in dios"

Now stop spreading this nonsense.


A Cherokee elder (I'm not with the tribe, just visiting) got up and told us this before a dance once. It's not just an outsider's nonsense.
2012-11-24 02:12:11 PM  
1 votes:

Quantumbunny:
I've asked a few Indians I know from India, and no, it does not.

Also you ignorant PC loving bastards. Native American is a horrible horrible term to call people. You do not come in to a land wipe out the populous with diseased blankets and firearms, push them farther and farther off their own land, throw them into segregated free range ghettos*, and to top it all off, name them after the land you just renamed to be your own. George Carlin had a wonderful speech about this. Historically, the term Indian when referring to the tribes of NA comes from the Spanish "In Dios", or "In God". It is a wonderful, respectful term, unlike Native American, you ignorant PC bastards. If you don't like Indian, then take the time to find out and call them Lakota, Cherokee, or whatever their tribe actually is, it'll show a hell of a lot more respect than labeling them "Natives" in your country.


You and Carlin are both full of shiat. Indian, meaning they thought they were in farking India.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1966/does-indian-derive-fro m- columbuss-description-of-native-americans-as-una-gente-in-dios

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Indian&allowed_in_frame=0

Now stop spreading this nonsense.
2012-11-24 02:09:58 PM  
1 votes:

Quantumbunny: Let's see... the Vikings predated him by hundreds of years, but they had no concept of India. The Chinese may have made it, though the evidence backing that isn't very extensive... and Columbus knew quite well he was not in India, so I wonder to whom you would be referring.

When he landed in the Antilles, Columbus referred to the resident peoples he encountered there as "Indians" in the mistaken belief that he had reached the Indian Ocean.[3] Although Columbus' mistake was soon recognized, the name stuck; for centuries the native people of the Americas were collectively called "Indians." This misnomer was perpetuated in place naming; the islands of the Caribbean were named, and are still known as, the West Indies.


Wiki pops
2012-11-24 01:54:49 PM  
1 votes:

Quantumbunny: Historically, the term Indian when referring to the tribes of NA comes from the Spanish "In Dios", or "In God".


I read that it was because the first people who landed here thought they were in India.
2012-11-24 01:31:43 PM  
1 votes:

farked3ways2sunday: MagicPlasticTreeFrog: Aigoo: As an American Indian, I read the first sentence and said three things:

1 - Shut the fark up, you dumb biatch. You don't speak for me or anyone else in my family.

2 - If you were born in this country, you are a "native" American, so knock off that PC bullshiat - it's offensive to me. I'm both a "native" American and an American Indian of the Creek and Lakota tribes.

3 - My grandmother would slap your arrogant, disrespectful face if she were still alive and tell you to look to your own backyard before blaming someone else for the condition of theirs--and she called herself a "squaw" unapologetically and was not only not insulted by the term, but damned proud of her heritage, which she could trace beyond the Trail of Tears and the Dawes and Oakes Rolls. You should be too. Instead, you're so ashamed of who and what you are, you blame the children of immigrants (which I am also - my father was of Scottish descent) for your own low self-worth.


/farking whiny brats looking to take racist offense in everything. This country has moved beyond the 1700's and 1800s, maybe they should too.

Amen, fellow American.

Holy shiat, someone that actually gets it.

If only Native Americans stop living in Native American-only designation area out west, their heritage would actually live on. Nope, apparently self-imposed alienation is a great idea and keeping the whites and darkies out. Because it worked out so well for the Jews in Europe.

My uncle visiting a tribal area back in the late 70s, said the worst act of discrimination he ever say was done by Native Americans against a black.

Talk about being your own worst enemy.


What. Do you think people wanna live in concentrations camps with no running wanter, education, healthcare or economy, while being forced to survive by boiling water and hunting every day of your life?
2012-11-24 01:28:31 PM  
1 votes:

RexTalionis: Dancin_In_Anson: Some people think it's fine to celebrate their heritage. And believe it or not they have a lot of fun with it. Y'all should get yourself some fun.

Their heritage. Not somebody else's.


I am part Irish and part Cherokee. Feel free to get drunk and run around a fire whooping it up. I could not care less. It does not insult me or my ancestors for you to dress up or act like me/them. I am really sick of this victim mentality that almost every race and culture clings to. And don't feign outrage on my behalf either.
2012-11-24 01:27:25 PM  
1 votes:
Why, in every discussion by whites about American Indians, are the U.S. Immigrants of European ancestry always collectively referred to as 'the white man?" I see it online and hear it in conversations. And always by whites.

They make it sound as though there was one single white man ... the white man, in fact ... who went around causing all the problems of all the Indian nations. It makes me think, why didn't somebody just shoot the sumbiatch so the rest of us could start getting along already?

Indians don't, for the most part (unless they're pulling your leg) talk like the ones in the old cowboy movies. No one 'speaks with forked tongue'- they lie through their teeth. Something isn't 'heap big', it's farkin' huge or a metric buttload. They have wives and girlfriends, not "squaws"; kids, not "papooses." At least among all the various Indians I've met. They pretty much talk like everyone else.
2012-11-24 01:18:38 PM  
1 votes:

farked3ways2sunday: MagicPlasticTreeFrog: Aigoo: As an American Indian, I read the first sentence and said three things:

1 - Shut the fark up, you dumb biatch. You don't speak for me or anyone else in my family.

2 - If you were born in this country, you are a "native" American, so knock off that PC bullshiat - it's offensive to me. I'm both a "native" American and an American Indian of the Creek and Lakota tribes.

3 - My grandmother would slap your arrogant, disrespectful face if she were still alive and tell you to look to your own backyard before blaming someone else for the condition of theirs--and she called herself a "squaw" unapologetically and was not only not insulted by the term, but damned proud of her heritage, which she could trace beyond the Trail of Tears and the Dawes and Oakes Rolls. You should be too. Instead, you're so ashamed of who and what you are, you blame the children of immigrants (which I am also - my father was of Scottish descent) for your own low self-worth.


/farking whiny brats looking to take racist offense in everything. This country has moved beyond the 1700's and 1800s, maybe they should too.

Amen, fellow American.

Holy shiat, someone that actually gets it.

If only Native Americans stop living in Native American-only designation area out west, their heritage would actually live on. Nope, apparently self-imposed alienation is a great idea and keeping the whites and darkies out. Because it worked out so well for the Jews in Europe.

My uncle visiting a tribal area back in the late 70s, said the worst act of discrimination he ever say was done by Native Americans against a black.

Talk about being your own worst enemy.


By the time World War II rolled around, most of Europe's Jews were living modern lives alongside their contemporaries. Yes, certain Ultra-Orthodox sects kept themselves apart, but they did not represent the Jewish population as a whole. Austria's Jews in particular were ardent patriots and completely thrown for a loop when the Nazis gained power.

Also, don't forget that the Nuremberg Laws determined that anyone with ONE Jewish grandparent - on either side - was a Jew. So even second-generation children of mixed marriages were rounded up, deported, and killed.

I'm certain you didn't mean to imply that that the Jews brought the Holocaust upon themselves.
2012-11-24 12:53:31 PM  
1 votes:

cig-mkr: Is it OK to play cowboys and anything anymore?
Cowboys and Terrorist doesn't have the same ring to it.


Basically cops and robbers. But god forbid you cast your token black friend as the robber.
2012-11-24 12:46:29 PM  
1 votes:

mekki: I've always wondered how many cultures were lost or wiped out by other Native American tribes before the Europeans came.

There's a myth that's mostly believed by hippies and social justice groups that Native Americans lived in harmony with one another and the "white man" destroyed that. But looking at the history of the world, you know that can't be true. Every other culture had wars. Every culture. You could even go a bit south and see this in the Mesoamerica and South American cultures.


It turns out that cultures that don't have standing armies have different definitions of war. Sure, there was war in pre-white-man America. But generally, you'd have a few handfuls of young men on each side who starting hitting each other with axes and firing arrows or something, and maybe a dozen or so people would die. The same thing was true in pre-white-man Africa.

Of course, it helped that these places had TINY populations compared to Europe at the time.
2012-11-24 12:32:38 PM  
1 votes:
Here's my two cents.

On the one hand, the native tribes of America had it (some still do) pretty rough early on, and we still kind of poke fun of them.

On the other, we poke fun of everyone, and I think this rant was a bit over the top.

Also, while Victoria's Secret may have done a dick move, Ubisoft did something cool.
2012-11-24 12:31:34 PM  
1 votes:

Ready-set: WorldCitizen: RexTalionis: Dancin_In_Anson: Some people think it's fine to celebrate their heritage. And believe it or not they have a lot of fun with it. Y'all should get yourself some fun.

Their heritage. Not somebody else's.

Yes, because everyone dressing up for St. Patrick's Day is of Irish heritage.

By blood is mostly Irish. I noticed in the commentaries for one of the best satirical tv shows ever, The Simpsons, the writers said the Irish were the easiest to make fun of. Nobody stands up.

No big deal, but look up INNA in American history.

I'm not too sensitive. EVERY culture is a bit F'd up. Get over yourselves.


You mean NINA and that has largely been shown to be a virtual myth in America.

Yes, someone on here is going to chime in they have a relative that remembers seeing a sign in a shop window in New York. I have friends that swear up and down that Star Wars had the subtitle "A New Hope" way back in 1977. Doesn't make them right either.
2012-11-24 12:29:24 PM  
1 votes:
Jenni Monet is a member of Native American Public Telecommunications, and a native of the Laguna Pueblo. Lives in Brooklyn.

Her film work is paid for by ... you guessed it ... rich white guilt riddled liberals otherwise known as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, with tax dollars taken from you against your will.

Speaks English, Spanish and Italian. Does not list Keresan, which would be her native language if Laguna. So, maybe she should cease pretending to be Italian.

This is the Butthurt Report Form in all its glory. (and a sure way to rise in the ranks of CNN ... condemn other Americans for being mean and insensitive)

And no, Braves fans are not going to stop doing the "chop".
2012-11-24 12:28:14 PM  
1 votes:
I am not a native but I live in a state with a huge native population (South Dakota/above Nebraska for you coasters) after working in Law Enforcment for 20 years and education for the previous 10 and can tell that the natives absolutely got the shaft from our ancestors but the biggest danger to young native woman now isnt a white guy turned on by a music video or Vicky secret commercial its her uncles and cousins and neighbors who are high on meth and malt liguor and have grown up as victims of their Uncles and cousins and neighbors. How about you figure out how to fix that before worring about music vids you blanking morons.
2012-11-24 12:24:30 PM  
1 votes:

dugitman: FTFA: According to congressional findings of the  2010 Tribal Law & Order Act    , 34% of American Indian and Alaska Native women will be raped; 39% will be subjected to domestic violence. That is more than twice the national average. In addition, the 2008 study by the  National Institute of Justice suggests that on some reservations, Native women are murdered at more than 10 times the rate of their non-native counterparts.
In the past year, Native advocacy leaders have made a push to reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act in Congress. The law would empower tribes for the first time to seek justice against non-Indian offenders.
 
I know next to nothing about this subject, but it seems counterintuitive that violence against NA women is being overwhelmingly committed by non-NA men. Is her point that: fetishizing the NA image in entertainment has spilled over onto the reservations and created a misogynistic environment in the NA community? Because I thought that environment has been there all along.


Actually from my understanding, especially from a lot of reading in Women's Studies (yeah I'm going to sound like that girl) was that the greatest amount of violence inflicted upon NA women is from NA men. Since the whole subjugation of the peoples and being forced into a non-nomadic lifestyle in bad lands started a vicious cycle and inherited culture of NA on NA violence and abuse, almost exclusively among families.

However as someone else has pointed out there is a gross number of offensives that go on unreported because of crappy legal shenanigans when drawing up reservation treaties. That being said I don't believe it's because the white man as fetishized the idea of the "squa". It's because he's an asshole who wants to assert power over another human being and knows that he's likely going to be untouched by the law.
2012-11-24 12:10:35 PM  
1 votes:

mekki: I've always wondered how many cultures were lost or wiped out by other Native American tribes before the Europeans came.


go check out my link about Indian City. You have a tribe almost wiped out by other tribes. Granted they were on different sides during the civil war, but still I don't imagine that was the first instance of one Native American tribe decimating another.
2012-11-24 12:10:24 PM  
1 votes:
Feathers, beads and turquoise are pretty. Who wouldn't want to wear them?
2012-11-24 12:07:53 PM  
1 votes:
Stereotypes are fun.... especially when they're being witnessed. If you can't laugh at a Dunkin' Donuts parking lot full of cop cars, you have no soul.
2012-11-24 11:56:11 AM  
1 votes:

jedikinkoid: jimmyjackfunk:
/can you imagine the butthurt that would flow though if during the other "history" months if common stereotypes were played out by businesses and in the media? Those places would be shut down even after an apology.

*pouts and puts down the black shoe polish, oversized prosthetic lips, and watermelon*

No fair. What's with all these stick-up-the-butts trying to spoil my having some innocent fun celebrating diversity?

(for reference, yes that was sarcasm.)


well i wasn't thinking along those lines but yeah, come February see what would happen if KFC, Church's or Popeyes ran a month long sale in celebration of Black History month. Or come September when Hispanic History month starts and Taco Bell runs a 2 for 1 special. Or if during Ramadan, a national grocery chain ran a special on all pork products and tied it in to Islam (I know Muslims abstain from pork but you have some idiots who would try and tie it in) If you owned one of those companies, you would have so many people from the media and activist groups crawling up your ass demanding apologies and everything from restructuring your company to the complete dismantling of it.
2012-11-24 11:47:04 AM  
1 votes:
jimmyjackfunk:
/can you imagine the butthurt that would flow though if during the other "history" months if common stereotypes were played out by businesses and in the media? Those places would be shut down even after an apology.

*pouts and puts down the black shoe polish, oversized prosthetic lips, and watermelon*

No fair. What's with all these stick-up-the-butts trying to spoil my having some innocent fun celebrating diversity?

(for reference, yes that was sarcasm.)
2012-11-24 11:43:12 AM  
1 votes:
i can't believe people still think this kind of thing isn't offensive and disrespectful. it really needs to end, but it won't stop unless people do something about it. we would need a lot of people on board to finally stop the disrespect. a large, well trained group of people who can recognize offensive use of native imagery. yeah, like an army. then this "army" could round up all offensive mascots, headdresses, dream catchers, etc and stop ignorant people from dishonoring them. maybe put Native American symbols in their own special place, some place just for them where they could stay apart from the rest of American culture. anybody with me?
2012-11-24 11:37:11 AM  
1 votes:
I like how we've reached a place in post-racial America where it's OK to keep perpetuating stereotypes because we're all equal and it's all just in fun and everything's peachy and OK.
2012-11-24 11:33:50 AM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Dafatone: iron_city_ap: If they want a celebration of their culture, I'm totally fine with it. If they want it to be popular, well, it needs to involve booze. Look at the major nationality/religion holidays..St. Pat's, Octoberfest, Cinco de Mayo, Mardi Gras, 4th of July....all of them fun. Hell, you could probably add Christmas to that list. Now, look at the ones that aren't fun/popular (I'm looking at you, Kwanzaa). Whats missing?

You can't invent a holiday?

Seriously. MLK Day disapproves of iron_city_ap's shenanigans.


Good point. I forgot all those big MLK day parties and parades and firework displays I've been to over the years. Don't get me wrong though, centering a celebration around getting tanked misses the mark about what you are actually celebrating. It just makes it more widly popular.
2012-11-24 11:30:13 AM  
1 votes:

HeathenHealer: If you really want to be depressed watch this. Link

/lives in SD
//Works with quite a few Native kids
///They got bigger things to worry about than if people "exploit" their culture


stories like that and like the one about the beer and liquor sales on the border with the SD reservation are ones that should be out there letting people know exactly what is happening to Native Americans. But instead the media wants you to get outraged over a model wearing a headdress or some sport team that has a Native American mascot. The point is if it was another ethnicity and something like the link HeathenHealer posted or the alcohol sales were to happen, we would be getting constantly bombarded with outraged "journalists" (i use that term loosely) on why these atrocities should stop, followed up with unnecessary legislation making it a federal crime to do so.
2012-11-24 11:25:08 AM  
1 votes:
Oy.

Let me lay out my opinions here, in case anyone cares:

1) Cultures represent our tribal history. Everyone belongs to a tribe. Some are family-esque or bigger, thus giving them an air of permanence, and some are ephemeral (like the fandom of a sports team, for example).

2) Often, cross-cultural interaction carries with it intense baggage related to past and/or current oppression - from mockery up through genocide - of one culture by another.

3) OPINION: Relics of such hostile, domineering interactions should be avoided, or, better yet, addressed in an appropriate forum with due resolution and reverence for the subject matter, where possible.

4) That being said, if we did not periodically "dabble" in each other's cultures, it would be as if to ignore that we're on this planet together. Cross-cultural interaction, complete with "borrowing," happens all the time, literally everywhere. What makes us human is culture, and what makes us vibrant is that those cultures are many and they interact.

5) Ergo: dress-up games are complicated affairs, which depend on context. OPINION: Avoid dressing up like a person from another culture unless invited to do so by that culture's members, because it's waaaaay too easy to screw up (and when you do screw up, those who get offended may very well have a point).

6) OPINION: That being said, see #4. We can't get away from each other, and encouraging everyone to silo their culture isn't just unrealistic, it's actually dangerous. We shouldn't avoid each other - there's too much of that going on already.
2012-11-24 11:23:33 AM  
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Spoon over Marin: I was taught that the NA cultures were matrilineal. Maybe the violence is a result of placing a group of people in a human petting zoo?


I think it was more like a few specific NA cultures didn't discriminate against women in politics, and had some women leaders - the Iroquois come to mind. If there were any matriarchal Native societies (not really sure), they definitely weren't the majority.

Nope, I think this is more of the result of the White Man giving them booze which they had never seen the stuff before, and went crazy with it, and it tore apart much of their society, which made them easier to conquer, and easier on the conscience to do so. That's how it went, anyway.
2012-11-24 11:21:42 AM  
1 votes:

DubtodaIll: When will all these minorities stop biatching that we didn't completely eradicate them? It's by the majorities grace alone that they're even able to take moral high groin on a discrimination issue anyway.


"Hey! We're not currently committing genocide on your people! You should be grateful we even let you live!"
2012-11-24 11:17:57 AM  
1 votes:
If you really want to be depressed watch this. Link

/lives in SD
//Works with quite a few Native kids
///They got bigger things to worry about than if people "exploit" their culture
2012-11-24 11:10:34 AM  
1 votes:
As a white American, I don't take Native American's "rights" seriously, because on average, 9 out of 10 NA's I've dealt with (in Arizona) are less inclined to do something about it than I am. For this French writer chick, It's like trying to play the black card but you have no Jesse Jacksons or Al Sharptons up your sleeve.
2012-11-24 11:10:12 AM  
1 votes:
www.chinaenvironmentallaw.com

nobody posted this yet? yes I know I know not a real Native American.
Personally, I didn't know November was Native American History month and I am Choctaw/Cherokee. I didn't know and now that I do know, it doesn't make me get all upset about these advertising and media gaffes that people have pulled compared to if I had known. Sure some people will find it offensive there is always someone who will. There is the whole, "it should be every day not just a month" crowd. I gladly will respect someone else's heritage and culture and I don't need a month out of the year set aside for it.

/can you imagine the butthurt that would flow though if during the other "history" months if common stereotypes were played out by businesses and in the media? Those places would be shut down even after an apology.
2012-11-24 11:08:58 AM  
1 votes:
I've never met a woman named Janet who wasn't a total biatch.
2012-11-24 11:06:33 AM  
1 votes:
How about a nice game of Nazis and Jews?
2012-11-24 11:02:20 AM  
1 votes:
People all over the world stick up for their own kind i.e. race. It's no big deal and is completely acceptable on all counts unless you are white. Then you are clearly a bigot, racist, close minded hater, etc.

/sorta think the squaw has a valid point
2012-11-24 11:00:24 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: But tell me again that makes me "obtuse" and "butthurt".


Dancin_In_Anson: How can you be such a farking tightass that you can't recognize the difference between having fun and being a farking tightass? Oh wait...you're a victim, aren't you?


dancininanson.net
Go have a bit of a cry, why don'tcha?
2012-11-24 10:59:11 AM  
1 votes:
But little recognition has been paid to the original inhabitants who represent 1% of the U.S. population.

Gee, I wonder why.
2012-11-24 10:55:19 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Some people think it's fine to celebrate their heritage. And believe it or not they have a lot of fun with it. Y'all should get yourself some fun.


You don't see him wearing a Nazi uniform, do you?

People want to pick the parts of their heritage they celebrate.
2012-11-24 10:47:41 AM  
1 votes:
25.media.tumblr.com
2012-11-24 10:28:58 AM  
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: Did someone mention exploiting and co-opting a culture for financial and social benefits?


Okay. I'll admit that I snickered at this.
2012-11-24 10:23:48 AM  
1 votes:

RexTalionis: How can you be so obtuse that you can't recognize the difference between celebrating a culture respectfully and exploiting and co-opting one for financial and social benefits?


Octoberfest is nothing if not exploitation for financial gain. Do you have any idea how much German beers run for the liter!?
2012-11-24 10:17:29 AM  
1 votes:

WorldCitizen: RexTalionis: Dancin_In_Anson: Some people think it's fine to celebrate their heritage. And believe it or not they have a lot of fun with it. Y'all should get yourself some fun.

Their heritage. Not somebody else's.

Yes, because everyone dressing up for St. Patrick's Day is of Irish heritage.


Is wearing a green polo somehow Irish now?
2012-11-24 10:13:51 AM  
1 votes:

dugitman: FTFA: According to congressional findings of the  2010 Tribal Law & Order Act    , 34% of American Indian and Alaska Native women will be raped; 39% will be subjected to domestic violence. That is more than twice the national average. In addition, the 2008 study by the  National Institute of Justice suggests that on some reservations, Native women are murdered at more than 10 times the rate of their non-native counterparts.
In the past year, Native advocacy leaders have made a push to reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act in Congress. The law would empower tribes for the first time to seek justice against non-Indian offenders.
 
I know next to nothing about this subject, but it seems counterintuitive that violence against NA women is being overwhelmingly committed by non-NA men. Is her point that: fetishizing the NA image in entertainment has spilled over onto the reservations and created a misogynistic environment in the NA community? Because I thought that environment has been there all along.


I heard a report on this issue. There's something of a loophole that gets created when the offenders are non-Indian (conflicting legal sovereignties, etc.), so people are working to close that gap.
2012-11-24 10:07:24 AM  
1 votes:
Don't tell him that

nerdbastards.com

Tim Burton didn't even dress him
2012-11-24 09:51:23 AM  
1 votes:

FriarReb98: Mikmaq


um, paddwhack?

/does this elevator go straight to hell, or do I have to switch in the lobby?
2012-11-24 09:41:53 AM  
1 votes:

Some people think it's fine to celebrate their heritage. And believe it or not they have a lot of fun with it. Y'all should get yourself some fun.

content.remaxtexas.com
2012-11-24 09:09:21 AM  
1 votes:
You mean the younger generation won't have the fun of playing Cowboys and Casinos?
2012-11-24 09:07:11 AM  
1 votes:

FriarReb98: And if it's a comedy, it's a farking joke and people like She Who Has Stick Up Her Butt That Has Stick Up Its Butt should just get over it.


theinvazn.files.wordpress.com
2012-11-24 09:03:02 AM  
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Barfmaker: That's not really helpful.


But it is truthful. Unless it's a comedy, it's most likely that a culture's imagery is being used to convey a mood or style that they look up to. And if it's a comedy, it's a farking joke and people like She Who Has Stick Up Her Butt That Has Stick Up Its Butt should just get over it.

\Political Correctness is killing comedy slowly but surely, and comedy should fight back.
\\and for the record, I'm part Mikmaq and I went to a school where the mascot is an Indian.
 
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