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(Orlando Sentinel)   Are you missing 42 bales of cocaine? You can either call the US Coast Guard or just let it go   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 24
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2012-11-24 07:18:23 AM
Were they falling from low flying planes?
 
2012-11-24 08:54:59 AM
I don't know who done dropped 'em, but I thank 'em just thesame
 
2012-11-24 09:28:00 AM
The capture of these 37 bales is a blessing to us all.
 
2012-11-24 09:28:24 AM
The person or persons missing it are probably dead already.
 
2012-11-24 09:30:03 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Were they falling from low flying planes?


I did a couple of counter narcotics cruises back in the early 90's. Some smugglers used a "pony express" technique where one boat would carry the drugs to a predetermined location and dump them for a second ( and third etc etc) boat to pick up.

The idea was that the final boat that made the delivery had already been searched when it was not hauling the drugs and could just cool breeze into port while we chased the other boats.

The range and cargo capacity of small planes like your thinking about makes them less efficient
 
2012-11-24 09:32:57 AM

One Bad Apple: FirstNationalBastard: Were they falling from low flying planes?

I did a couple of counter narcotics cruises back in the early 90's. Some smugglers used a "pony express" technique where one boat would carry the drugs to a predetermined location and dump them for a second ( and third etc etc) boat to pick up.

The idea was that the final boat that made the delivery had already been searched when it was not hauling the drugs and could just cool breeze into port while we chased the other boats.

The range and cargo capacity of small planes like your thinking about makes them less efficient


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2012-11-24 09:50:33 AM

Spoon over Marin: One Bad Apple: FirstNationalBastard: Were they falling from low flying planes?


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Heh, the reverend should look out for this guy then.

I'm just sayin' that it's unlikely that 1,851 pounds got dropped from some single or twin engine Buddy Holly killing airplane.
 
2012-11-24 10:05:44 AM
 
2012-11-24 10:07:25 AM
Now friends, there was only one or two things that Obie coulda done at the Coast Guard station, and the first was he could have given us our cocaine for being so brave and honest on the telephone, which wasn't very likely, and we didn't expect it, and the other thing was he could have bawled us out and told us never to be seen with drugs around the vicinity again, which is what we expected, but when we got to the police officer's station there was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon, and we was both immediately arrested. Handcuffed. And I said "Obie, I don't think I can haul off the cocaine with these handcuffs on." He said, "Shut up, kid. Get in the back of the patrol car."
 
2012-11-24 10:09:35 AM
I made enough money to buy Miami, but I pissed it away so fast...
 
2012-11-24 10:18:46 AM
Well, we've had Horton Heat.

How about a little Old Crow Medicine Show.
 
2012-11-24 10:33:51 AM
That must have been one Hell of a colon!
 
2012-11-24 10:54:05 AM
Someone I work with used to work with a well-known banana company. And one time, he got a call that a shipment had a box of that contained a bags of unknown white powder instead of bananas.

I think the funniest part though was that somewhere there was a guy now who had an extra box of bananas.
 
2012-11-24 11:23:52 AM
You found 42 bales of cocaine?

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, GOOD FOR *YOU*
 
2012-11-24 11:48:53 AM
30 minutes later, I was a millionaire.
 
2012-11-24 12:14:37 PM

Macho Camacho: The bales are yours, I don't need them anymore.

 
2012-11-24 01:14:26 PM
I've thought that a way to smuggle things would be to put them in submersible pods and attach them to the bottom of a boat. If approached by law enforcement, jettison the pod and let it sink, making note of the location for future pickup. Best to do this kind of smuggling where the water is murky, of course.
 
2012-11-24 01:20:21 PM
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That's a lot of blow...
 
2012-11-24 01:32:02 PM

jjorsett: I've thought that a way to smuggle things would be to put them in submersible pods and attach them to the bottom of a boat. If approached by law enforcement, jettison the pod and let it sink, making note of the location for future pickup. Best to do this kind of smuggling where the water is murky, of course.



Once you jettison that pod just let it go man because it's gone. The average ocean depth past the continental shelf is something like 3 miles.Nothing short of the Glomar Explorer will suffice and even they couldn't pull off a sneaky deep sea grab without getting caught doing it. There have been a few attempts at some kind of half assed submarines built but they still get seen especially from the air


. Dragging a submersible U-haul presents too many engineering problems. No matter how short you make the tether hydrodynamic forces will cause the pod to rise toward the surface when you tow it. It will either collide with your own hull fouling the screws and or rudder or be so long that it drags along the bottom when you enter port.


The only consistently successful method of smuggling is just like speeding. Outnumber the cops and hope they pull someone else over instead of you. It's all just a big zergling rush.
 
2012-11-24 02:33:44 PM

One Bad Apple: jjorsett: I've thought that a way to smuggle things would be to put them in submersible pods and attach them to the bottom of a boat. If approached by law enforcement, jettison the pod and let it sink, making note of the location for future pickup. Best to do this kind of smuggling where the water is murky, of course.


Once you jettison that pod just let it go man because it's gone. The average ocean depth past the continental shelf is something like 3 miles.Nothing short of the Glomar Explorer will suffice and even they couldn't pull off a sneaky deep sea grab without getting caught doing it.


If you plan on operating in deep water, perhaps building some sort of station-keeping mechanism into the pod would work: Release the pod and it goes down several hundred feet and waits there until it gets a sonar "ping" at some future time, at which point it surfaces. Kind of elaborate, but, hey, these guys are building freaking submarines in jungles! This would be way simpler than that.

There have been a few attempts at some kind of half assed submarines built but they still get seen especially from the air

So far, all the ones I've read about aren't fully submersible, they're designed to run just barely on the surface, so as to have as low a profile as possible. Of course, those are the ones we know about. Maybe some cartel has a fleet of fully submersible diesel boats and they're so successful that they've escaped detection.

Dragging a submersible U-haul presents too many engineering problems. No matter how short you make the tether hydrodynamic forces will cause the pod to rise toward the surface when you tow it. It will either collide with your own hull fouling the screws and or rudder or be so long that it drags along the bottom when you enter port.

For my idea, I was thinking the pod would be attached directly to the hull, not towed, although I thought it might be possible to tow one if it was designed to actively keep itself at a particular depth as it moved along. I also wouldn't expect it to be taken into a port, more likely dropped at a rendezvous point.

The only consistently successful method of smuggling is just like speeding. Outnumber the cops and hope they pull someone else over instead of you. It's all just a big zergling rush.

I think that's the approach taken now, particularly because the crews are considered expendable. In the cases I'm familiar with, they're mostly desperate poor people given minimal training, not professionals. I guess as long as that approach pays off adequately, fancier stuff will be unnecessary. Drat, because I have this cool idea for autonomous drone aircraft ...
 
2012-11-24 03:55:13 PM
Think:
Non-tethered unmanned Sea Drones.

Oh, it is possible.
 
2012-11-24 05:35:06 PM

jjorsett: I've thought that a way to smuggle things would be to put them in submersible pods and attach them to the bottom of a boat. If approached by law enforcement, jettison the pod and let it sink, making note of the location for future pickup. Best to do this kind of smuggling where the water is murky, of course.


Apparently it's been done - without the ability to jettison them though.

I can't remember which show it was, but customs agents sometimes send divers down to inspect the hulls of ships.

A quick google search reveals this article from 1990: FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - The latest technique used by drug smugglers to slip their illegal wares into Port Everglades and other U.S. ports sounds like a far-fetched scene from a James Bond movie.

Scuba divers in foreign ports are using high-power magnets and suction cups to affix nets full of drugs to the bottom of container cargo ships, out of the sight of inspectors and customs officials.

Once the ships arrive in a U.S. port, another team of scuba divers cuts the nets and swims off with the goods.

``It's the hottest technique around,'' said Robert Randolph, vice president of south Florida operations for Crowley Caribbean Transport. ``All they have to do is cut the net, throw it into a speedboat and they're gonzo.''
 
2012-11-24 09:43:18 PM
CSB:

A friend of mine and I were in a bar in Savannah, GA- it was a bar that he had been to many times, knew the bartenders, etc. We'd been there for a couple of hours when he turns to me and says "Shiat, I lost my bag of weed." This didn't particularly bother me because it wasn't mine, but he was semi-drunk and became paranoid that it would somehow find its way back to him, along with consequences. About a half hour later, the uniformed cop checking IDs at the bar said very loudly, "Whoever lost a bag of pot, I have it up here, you can come get it from me."

My buddy actually managed a couple steps towards the guy before I grabbed him and explained the situation. I still wonder how many people that cop's busted that way.
 
2012-11-25 10:40:02 AM

grinding_journalist: CSB:

A friend of mine and I were in a bar in Savannah, GA- it was a bar that he had been to many times, knew the bartenders, etc. We'd been there for a couple of hours when he turns to me and says "Shiat, I lost my bag of weed." This didn't particularly bother me because it wasn't mine, but he was semi-drunk and became paranoid that it would somehow find its way back to him, along with consequences. About a half hour later, the uniformed cop checking IDs at the bar said very loudly, "Whoever lost a bag of pot, I have it up here, you can come get it from me."

My buddy actually managed a couple steps towards the guy before I grabbed him and explained the situation. I still wonder how many people that cop's busted that way.


That's not "semi-drunk".
 
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