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(YouTube)   Will we ever run out of new music? Judging how much music sounds the same, we're already there   (youtube.com) divider line 19
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2012-11-24 12:59:42 AM  
Very interesting...long listen but still interesting.
 
2012-11-24 01:13:36 AM  
Will we ever run out of new music? Judging how much music sounds the same, we're already there old.


/Me too.
 
2012-11-24 01:27:40 AM  
Major chord melodies are in short supply. An infinite number of toneless downer minor chord tunes are still available.
 
2012-11-24 07:59:55 AM  

slayer199: Very interesting...long listen but still interesting.


Indeed. I also think this may explain why Don't Stop Believing continues to be so popular.
 
2012-11-24 08:58:56 AM  
Will we ever run out of links? If this link is any indication, then yes.

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2012-11-24 09:00:37 AM  
I'm gonna go ahead and be the one to say it: I was told there would be no math.
 
2012-11-24 09:13:38 AM  
Isn't this why there's a "repeat" tag?
 
2012-11-24 09:53:42 AM  
All white rappers sound the same, what did you expect?
 
2012-11-24 10:03:40 AM  
"Digital music is made up of bits."

No.

Music is made of one notes, tones, slurs, arpeggios, hooks, lyrics, arrangements and a few gazillioon metric tons of other stuff.

Digitally recorded FILES are made up of bits. If you don't believe me, try opening a wordpad file in VLC Media Player. The point is the music. Not the bit count.
 
2012-11-24 10:09:47 AM  
Only 12 tones. It's tricky.

Wait a minute: It's tricky to rock around, it's tricky tricky tricky...

Hey! I think I've got something new!!

/really though, it can be done.
//songwriter here
 
2012-11-24 10:37:51 AM  
It's not that we're running out of new music, it's that the record industry is bad to favor what makes a profit with no regard to quality, iinovation, etc.
 
2012-11-24 10:41:55 AM  

bunner: Music is made of one notes, tones, slurs, arpeggios, hooks, lyrics, arrangements and a few gazillioon metric tons of other stuff.


This is covered in the video. The bit-length is a useful way to set an initial upper limit, because it's easy to work with mathematically (you don't need any combinatorics). There are a number of other estimates that he runs through.
 
2012-11-24 10:51:47 AM  
A good reason for lawmakers to loosen copyright laws.
 
2012-11-24 11:16:01 AM  

t3knomanser: bunner: Music is made of one notes, tones, slurs, arpeggios, hooks, lyrics, arrangements and a few gazillioon metric tons of other stuff.

This is covered in the video. The bit-length is a useful way to set an initial upper limit, because it's easy to work with mathematically (you don't need any combinatorics). There are a number of other estimates that he runs through.


Well, yeah, but we still bang out 44.1/16 crap when 96/24 could readily be worked into consumer gear. Who's getting paid to keep THAT crap going, I wonder.
 
2012-11-24 12:11:36 PM  

bunner: Well, yeah, but we still bang out 44.1/16 crap when 96/24 could readily be worked into consumer gear. Who's getting paid to keep THAT crap going, I wonder.


Claude Shannon?

The reality: 44.1khz is good enough if you low-pass the inputs before encoding to avoid aliasing artifacts. Your average listener and stereo system isn't going to reproduce it with enough fidelity anyway.
 
2012-11-24 12:25:22 PM  

t3knomanser: The reality: 44.1khz is good enough if you low-pass the inputs before encoding to avoid aliasing artifacts. Your average listener and stereo system isn't going to reproduce it with enough fidelity anyway.


And therein lies the problem. See, I'm more about "use the best possible thing" as opposed to "good enough, because good enough is always arbitrary as opposed to limited by physics.
 
2012-11-24 12:32:33 PM  

bunner: See, I'm more about "use the best possible thing" as opposed to "good enough, because good enough is always arbitrary as opposed to limited by physics.


A 96khz sample rate is not "the best possible thing", it's just a different tier of "good enough". It will have less aliasing than 44.1khz, but it will still contain aliasing.
 
2012-11-24 12:39:01 PM  

t3knomanser: A 96khz sample rate is not "the best possible thing", it's just a different tier of "good enough". It will have less aliasing than 44.1khz, but it will still contain aliasing.


Well, yeah. But at least it's as a viable consumer format. Funny thing about analogue, dynamics? Meh. Bandwidth and linearity? Oh, yeah.
 
2012-11-24 12:44:42 PM  
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