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(Wall Street Journal)   Mazda unveils low-priced "Speed Racer" subcompact kit to entice driving enthusiasts into B-Spec auto racing world. Jaunty theme song not included   ( blogs.wsj.com) divider line
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2012-11-23 04:16:25 PM  
Does it come with this?:

hooniverse.com 


PTOOONNNNG!~
 
2012-11-23 04:49:46 PM  
I'd love for them to make a MazdaSpeed 3 Sedan.
 
2012-11-23 05:17:13 PM  
ZMugg
Does it come with this?:

no as best i can tell

fta "Owners can build track-ready Mazda2s using B-Spec kits form the company that cost $2,575"
the owners make cars from kits that become a company that costs $2775 and makes the kits. i guess its like voltron. but the kit comes before the company is formed so how does the company makes the kits to form the company?
 
2012-11-23 06:15:14 PM  
I'm not insulting this particular kit, but:

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com 

The type of guy who does this is invariably an assclown who can't even drive. One of them and his buddy actually challenged me at a red light a few months ago. I ride a 1050cc motorcycle, which just by virtue of power/weight ratio is going to slaughter everything but a supercar in terms of acceleration. Anyway, I revved the engine as though I were taking the bait, but when the light greened I slipped into first the way I always do (fairly cautiously) while these idiots tried to dump the clutch at 5000 rpm. It was hilarious. Their car sounded like a loud mosquito, only slower.

Thing is, these were grown men, not stupid teenagers who can be forgiven for being stupid.
 
2012-11-23 06:23:19 PM  

dickfreckle: I'm not insulting this particular kit, but:

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The type of guy who does this is invariably an assclown who can't even drive. One of them and his buddy actually challenged me at a red light a few months ago. I ride a 1050cc motorcycle, which just by virtue of power/weight ratio is going to slaughter everything but a supercar in terms of acceleration. Anyway, I revved the engine as though I were taking the bait, but when the light greened I slipped into first the way I always do (fairly cautiously) while these idiots tried to dump the clutch at 5000 rpm. It was hilarious. Their car sounded like a loud mosquito, only slower.

Thing is, these were grown men, not stupid teenagers who can be forgiven for being stupid.


You understand that this is an SCCA class?
 
2012-11-23 06:24:36 PM  

dickfreckle: I'm not insulting this particular kit, but:

The type of guy who does this is invariably an assclown who can't even drive. One of them and his buddy actually challenged me at a red light a few months ago. I ride a 1050cc motorcycle, which just by virtue of power/weight ratio is going to slaughter everything but a supercar in terms of acceleration. Anyway, I revved the engine as though I were taking the bait, but when the light greened I slipped into first the way I always do (fairly cautiously) while these idiots tried to dump the clutch at 5000 rpm. It was hilarious. Their car sounded like a loud mosquito, only slower.

Thing is, these were grown men, not stupid teenagers who can be forgiven for being stupid.


This kit is for people like you and I. Actual racecarring will go on with the cars that are actually built from these kits. The second benefit of this is the moron wannabes will also blow their money on it, but fail to build it. This is great, because now they have no money for stick on scoops/vents and no money for bees-in-a-can exhaust.

I see no downside.
 
2012-11-23 06:36:48 PM  

dickfreckle: The type of guy who does this is invariably an assclown who can't even drive. One of them and his buddy actually challenged me at a red light a few months ago. I ride a 1050cc motorcycle, which just by virtue of power/weight ratio is going to slaughter everything but a supercar in terms of acceleration. Anyway, I revved the engine as though I were taking the bait, but when the light greened I slipped into first the way I always do (fairly cautiously) while these idiots tried to dump the clutch at 5000 rpm. It was hilarious. Their car sounded like a loud mosquito, only slower.


Maybe you shouldn't get all your knowledge on cars from the old fogeys down at the local muffler shop who stopped paying attention to car-modding back when getting 250 horses out of a V8 was considered impressive...

Oh, wait... you drive a "sport" bike. My mistake. I mistook you initially for somebody who wasn't a complete dolt.

Enjoy your little plastic toy.
 
2012-11-23 06:54:18 PM  
The trunk needs a lock that can't be picked by small boys or monkeys.
 
2012-11-23 07:30:47 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: dickfreckle: The type of guy who does this is invariably an assclown who can't even drive. One of them and his buddy actually challenged me at a red light a few months ago. I ride a 1050cc motorcycle, which just by virtue of power/weight ratio is going to slaughter everything but a supercar in terms of acceleration. Anyway, I revved the engine as though I were taking the bait, but when the light greened I slipped into first the way I always do (fairly cautiously) while these idiots tried to dump the clutch at 5000 rpm. It was hilarious. Their car sounded like a loud mosquito, only slower.

Maybe you shouldn't get all your knowledge on cars from the old fogeys down at the local muffler shop who stopped paying attention to car-modding back when getting 250 horses out of a V8 was considered impressive...

Oh, wait... you drive a "sport" bike. My mistake. I mistook you initially for somebody who wasn't a complete dolt.

Enjoy your little plastic toy.


I think you're getting a little too angry over a guy ignoring ricers. Did the police impound your civic again?

SWAT CAME TO MY HOUSE DISRESPECT MY WHOLE FAMIRY!
 
2012-11-23 07:32:02 PM  
i.imgur.com 

I loved my RX-7, still the most fun car I have ever driven. May she rest in pieces :(
 
2012-11-23 07:42:17 PM  
B-Spec?

www.gtpla.net
 
2012-11-23 08:04:09 PM  

Click Click D'oh: B-Spec?

[www.gtpla.net image 638x359]


Is that the PAL version? Because the interface on the US version looks a bit different than that.

/and what's that driver's first initial?
 
2012-11-23 08:09:01 PM  
do you get to commit one free vehicular homicide?
 
2012-11-23 08:17:46 PM  
Factory rice-boy? All it needs is a few stickers and a billet alloy tow hook.

Don't think the AC delete would be a popular feature down here in TX.
 
2012-11-23 08:54:37 PM  
The best part is after you spend the 15k on the parts Mazada suggests, you can go get your ass whooped by someone who dropped 15k or less on a used WRX, Evo, or American V8.
 
2012-11-23 09:01:02 PM  

ha-ha-guy: The best part is after you spend the 15k on the parts Mazada suggests, you can go get your ass whooped by someone who dropped 15k or less on a used WRX, Evo, or American V8.


The kit costs $2500, not $15,000. And for that price you get quite a lot. The coilovers on my vehicle can go for that alone. Nevermind an exhaust, swaybar and other bits and bobs.
 
2012-11-23 09:11:23 PM  
The stock Mazda2 engine has only 100 horsepower. I wonder how much you gain with the modifications.
 
2012-11-23 09:17:15 PM  

duffblue: ha-ha-guy: The best part is after you spend the 15k on the parts Mazada suggests, you can go get your ass whooped by someone who dropped 15k or less on a used WRX, Evo, or American V8.

The kit costs $2500, not $15,000. And for that price you get quite a lot. The coilovers on my vehicle can go for that alone. Nevermind an exhaust, swaybar and other bits and bobs.


Actually since we're being pedantic, the kit costs $2,575. As stated in the next sentence though the out the door pricing for a finished vehicle is 15k at the min.

/supposedly Mazada2's B-Spec has issues with hard breaking and if you want to do this seriously you need a more expensive prep kit anyway
 
2012-11-23 09:23:53 PM  

bingethinker: The stock Mazda2 engine has only 100 horsepower. I wonder how much you gain with the modifications.


B-Spec has engine mod restrictions, so not much. The B-Spec kitted Sonics and Aveos I'll seen tooling around the track are stable, I'll give them that, but so are the faster moving vehicles in the outer lanes. Sometimes I look at the B-Spec stuff and just shake me head because you'd have been much better off starting with a better wheel base and more aerodynamic shape as opposed to putting lipstick on the subcompact pig.
 
2012-11-23 10:23:02 PM  
I hope Mazda doesn't then void the warranties of these Mazda drivers that go racing.

Mitsubishi pulled that crap with the Evo.
 
2012-11-23 10:24:38 PM  
The last SCCA autocross I went to, there was a guy in a stock Mazda2 putting down some pretty impressive times. My newb ass couldn't touch his times, and I was running in DS with 160+ more horse power. So that guy beat me quite easily, but I did beat another newb in a Ferrari 360 Spider. :-D
 
2012-11-23 10:25:26 PM  

duffblue: ha-ha-guy: The best part is after you spend the 15k on the parts Mazada suggests, you can go get your ass whooped by someone who dropped 15k or less on a used WRX, Evo, or American V8.

The kit costs $2500, not $15,000. And for that price you get quite a lot. The coilovers on my vehicle can go for that alone. Nevermind an exhaust, swaybar and other bits and bobs.


That actually is a pretty impressive list and improves on what's not a very bad car to begin with.

I love my STi, but I have to admit, there's something to be said for a sub-$20k screamer like that. Mazda always did have some maniacs in the factory marketing group, which I consider to be a very cool thing.
 
2012-11-23 11:13:11 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: dickfreckle: The type of guy who does this is invariably an assclown who can't even drive. One of them and his buddy actually challenged me at a red light a few months ago. I ride a 1050cc motorcycle, which just by virtue of power/weight ratio is going to slaughter everything but a supercar in terms of acceleration. Anyway, I revved the engine as though I were taking the bait, but when the light greened I slipped into first the way I always do (fairly cautiously) while these idiots tried to dump the clutch at 5000 rpm. It was hilarious. Their car sounded like a loud mosquito, only slower.

Maybe you shouldn't get all your knowledge on cars from the old fogeys down at the local muffler shop who stopped paying attention to car-modding back when getting 250 horses out of a V8 was considered impressive...

Oh, wait... you drive a "sport" bike. My mistake. I mistook you initially for somebody who wasn't a complete dolt.

Enjoy your little plastic toy.


The guy is riding a 1050cc or 'liter' bike, not to be confused with 'fark liter', which is a completely different liter. Liter bikes are large cruisers or touring bikes. Definitely faster than cars, but they are not the insanely nimble squid bikes. Those are the lightweight 600cc race class bikes.
 
2012-11-23 11:15:39 PM  

MFAWG: dickfreckle: I'm not insulting this particular kit, but:

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The type of guy who does this is invariably an assclown who can't even drive. One of them and his buddy actually challenged me at a red light a few months ago. I ride a 1050cc motorcycle, which just by virtue of power/weight ratio is going to slaughter everything but a supercar in terms of acceleration. Anyway, I revved the engine as though I were taking the bait, but when the light greened I slipped into first the way I always do (fairly cautiously) while these idiots tried to dump the clutch at 5000 rpm. It was hilarious. Their car sounded like a loud mosquito, only slower.

Thing is, these were grown men, not stupid teenagers who can be forgiven for being stupid.

You understand that this is an SCCA class?


Oh yeah, also this. Anyone interested in this kit is going to be thrashing it on the track, where this sort of thing belongs.
 
2012-11-23 11:26:56 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: dickfreckle: The type of guy who does this is invariably an assclown who can't even drive. One of them and his buddy actually challenged me at a red light a few months ago. I ride a 1050cc motorcycle, which just by virtue of power/weight ratio is going to slaughter everything but a supercar in terms of acceleration. Anyway, I revved the engine as though I were taking the bait, but when the light greened I slipped into first the way I always do (fairly cautiously) while these idiots tried to dump the clutch at 5000 rpm. It was hilarious. Their car sounded like a loud mosquito, only slower.

Maybe you shouldn't get all your knowledge on cars from the old fogeys down at the local muffler shop who stopped paying attention to car-modding back when getting 250 horses out of a V8 was considered impressive...

Oh, wait... you drive a "sport" bike. My mistake. I mistook you initially for somebody who wasn't a complete dolt.

Enjoy your little plastic toy.


Ricerboy sound annnnngry...like bees.
 
2012-11-23 11:29:50 PM  

dickfreckle: I'm not insulting this particular kit, but:

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 225x225] 

The type of guy who does this is invariably an assclown who can't even drive. One of them and his buddy actually challenged me at a red light a few months ago. I ride a 1050cc motorcycle, which just by virtue of power/weight ratio is going to slaughter everything but a supercar in terms of acceleration. Anyway, I revved the engine as though I were taking the bait, but when the light greened I slipped into first the way I always do (fairly cautiously) while these idiots tried to dump the clutch at 5000 rpm. It was hilarious. Their car sounded like a loud mosquito, only slower.

Thing is, these were grown men, not stupid teenagers who can be forgiven for being stupid.


that scene needs to be in a Hollywood movie. just before you speed away on your bad bike you casually toss a hand grenade into the rice burner and toss the guys a salute. Have a Nice Day!
 
2012-11-24 12:28:24 AM  
I get idiots in Civics trying to race my WRX all the time. I'll accelerate hard to about 6-7 over the speed limit and then turn on cruise and go along. So far I've had 2 people get pulled over because they kept going.

And yes, it's hilarious.
 
2012-11-24 02:02:54 AM  
Car threads are the stupidest. If you don't have a passion for autos, your opinion is probably shiat.

Do I barge into a thread somewhere about microprocessor design? No, i don't, because the sum of my knowledge makes every conclusion i try to draw sound idiotic to people who have a PASSION for microprocessors.
 
2012-11-24 02:27:43 AM  

StopLurkListen: The guy is riding a 1050cc or 'liter' bike, not to be confused with 'fark liter', which is a completely different liter. Liter bikes are large cruisers or touring bikes. Definitely faster than cars, but they are not the insanely nimble squid bikes. Those are the lightweight 600cc race class bikes.


You just told all of Fark you have no idea what you're talking about.

news.micronexhaust.com

Does that look like a cruiser or touring bike? No it does not.

That's a GSXR-1000, a "liter bike." As the other guy said, at $12k it will destroy any sports car costing under 10x as much, and many over that.
 
2012-11-24 02:55:55 AM  

AcneVulgaris: Ricerboy sound annnnngry...like bees.


It's a British bike, you idiot. Don't make assumptions.
 
2012-11-24 02:57:22 AM  

Man, I've taken lots of heat in this thread.

DID YOU NOT READ THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE OF THE POST, WHERE I SPECIFICALLY SAID I WASN'T INSULTING THE KIT IN TFA?



Jesus, all I meant is that the appearance of the vehicle reminded me of all the boy racers you see around town.

For Fark's sake, lighten up!
 
2012-11-24 10:45:51 AM  
I notice the kit doesn't include the required safety equipment, so to whatever one spends for the car and for the "kit", add $2000 to $3000 more for required roll cage, fire suppression system, personal safety gear (suit, helmet, etc.) and optional racing seat.

I was at Thunderhill a couple of years ago to watch the 25 Hours of Thunderhill. Honda had a couple of their B-Spec Fits, which ran away to win their class (E3 IIRC). The two cars ran without incident for the entire race, requiring only adding fuel and a mid-race front brake pad change. The drivers described them as the most fun race cars they'd ever driven...light, nimble and easy to drive at their limits.

So, if you want to do some semi-serious road racing on a budget in the car you drive to work 5 days a week, you can do worse than B-Spec. A Spec Miata might be a bit more fun on the track, but you can't haul much with it.
 
2012-11-24 10:50:08 AM  

Girion47: I get idiots in Civics trying to race my WRX all the time. I'll accelerate hard to about 6-7 over the speed limit and then turn on cruise and go along. So far I've had 2 people get pulled over because they kept going.

And yes, it's hilarious.


My god, you're awesome.
 
2012-11-24 01:49:44 PM  
budget?

I didn't think that word applied when it comes to racing.

Tires ain't cheap
 
2012-11-25 12:33:26 AM  

dickfreckle: Man, I've taken lots of heat in this thread.

DID YOU NOT READ THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE OF THE POST, WHERE I SPECIFICALLY SAID I WASN'T INSULTING THE KIT IN TFA?

Jesus, all I meant is that the appearance of the vehicle reminded me of all the boy racers you see around town.

For Fark's sake, lighten up!


okay, fine. here's a dark hug...

1050 means a triumph speed triple, right?

/had a street r until a few months ago
 
2012-11-25 04:40:32 PM  
Where wolf:1050 means a triumph speed triple, right?

Only 1050cc that I know of...

Not sure it's properly classified as a liter bike though. I'd hold off calling a Shadow a liter bike for the same reasons. Street fighter? Whatever the case, it'll definitely slaughter any production car up to 10x its MSRP.
 
2012-11-26 02:23:49 AM  

StopLurkListen: Vegan Meat Popsicle: dickfreckle: The type of guy who does this is invariably an assclown who can't even drive. One of them and his buddy actually challenged me at a red light a few months ago. I ride a 1050cc motorcycle, which just by virtue of power/weight ratio is going to slaughter everything but a supercar in terms of acceleration. Anyway, I revved the engine as though I were taking the bait, but when the light greened I slipped into first the way I always do (fairly cautiously) while these idiots tried to dump the clutch at 5000 rpm. It was hilarious. Their car sounded like a loud mosquito, only slower.

Maybe you shouldn't get all your knowledge on cars from the old fogeys down at the local muffler shop who stopped paying attention to car-modding back when getting 250 horses out of a V8 was considered impressive...

Oh, wait... you drive a "sport" bike. My mistake. I mistook you initially for somebody who wasn't a complete dolt.

Enjoy your little plastic toy.

The guy is riding a 1050cc or 'liter' bike, not to be confused with 'fark liter', which is a completely different liter. Liter bikes are large cruisers or touring bikes. Definitely faster than cars, but they are not the insanely nimble squid bikes. Those are the lightweight 600cc race class bikes.


You don't know what you are talking about...the bit about 1000cc bikes not being nimble and all that. Also the touring and the cruising. Wrong man.
 
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