For God's sake, man, not every scientist in the world is studying cancer. How is a Bureau of Transportation Statistics number-cruncher supposed to shed light on ANY disease process? Enough with the "cure for cancer" shiat.

/over-caffeinated
/too damn serious

Reason #2: Drunken airline pilots.

LIARS. All of em.

Honestly, why can't they find a cure for cancer? They waste their time on meaningless studies as this one. I mean, they did put a man on the moon so cancer can't be too hard.

I'm concerned about this exhaust test. If the planes exhaust is causing not only delays but cancer I think we should know about it.

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don't planes cause bad weather by condensing water in the high atmosphere and dropping seeding pollutants into clouds?

2003-12-05 12:05:34 PM Big_Bad_Dad
I'm concerned about this exhaust test. If the planes exhaust is causing not only delays but cancer I think we should know about it.


What I want to know is what DOESN'T cause cancer these days!!!

impaler, just be glad you didn't paste in "alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.farm" or something ;P

I blame the terrorists.

Shut_the_Fark_up

Apparantly there is only one research group that is studying everything known to man. Their inbox is huge. The so-called "cancer problem" must be at the bottom.

impaler: "SCIENTISTS put a man on the moon. Are you a scientest? No? Then STFU about the cancer!"

Not just scientists, but film producers, directors, cameramen, etc. It tool a lot of know-how to fake those lunar landings.

/this troll and subsequent flame-war in honor of those in the northeast who are suffering through a winter storm. Stay warm!

DslainteC ,
I think you're correct that is why we are going to try to be the chinese to the moon.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/12/04/us.moon/index.html

The best box cutters I have EVER found was on an NWA flight...

Yep...those running jokes never ever get old. Never.


Ever.

We were delayed in O'Hare airport for four entire hours last year. Every time a lightning bolt hit the ground within eyesight, the sissy tarmac workers would run inside like chickens with their heads cut off and hide for fifteen minutes. This happened again and again. Then it hailed. Guess who left our bags out in the rain to be ruined? Yep, the "retreat like a Frenchman" tarmac workers! Not only were we cramped inside a 747 on the ground for four hours, our luggage was nicely soaked when we picked it up after arrival.

And O'Hare is built in such a way that the distance between any two gates is never less than two miles. Add one more mile if you have less than fifteen minutes to reach the gate of your connecting flight. I am never going through O'Hare again. Even without delays it is a Hellish experience. Whoever built that place needs to be kneecapped and chased through the halls by a pack of hungry wolves.

Axoplasm: For God's sake, man, not every scientist in the world is studying cancer.

Yes, but they should be.
Hence the cliche ;P

When I was flying home last Sunday night I had to change planes at Chicago, O'hare. United Airlines was thoughtful enough to not have any planes available to make the flight, and it was overbooked so they were begging people to stay over and fly the next morning. We ended up leaving Chicago around two hours behind schedule. First and last time I ever flew United.

banal_spex:
Airplanes do create "contrails" at altitude if the conditions are right. But, since they are up so high (between 27,000 and 40,000 feet or so) the "clouds" they create are too high and too minute to create any weather.

That's not to say exhaust doesn't pollute the air; jets do emit particulate matter into the atmosphere, and these pollutants could allow clouds to form. There is much debate as to whether this is causing problems or not; I couldn't tell ya if it's as harmful as some say; not enough research done yet.

Yeah! I knew I did that research paper for something. It's fun to sound smart every now and then.

What's interesting is that the companies producing the cancer treatment drugs also rank among the highest in the country for carcinogen emmissions into the environment each year.

Since most of my flights are for business, and since I get paid by the hour, late flights mean more money in my pocket.

Dr. Rumack I just wanted to wish you good luck and let you know we are all counting on you.

Dr. Mel Anoma Gee thanks!!

The flights that aren't delayed by weather are delayed by general asshattery.

I tend to side with Lordargent,

Why are we allocating some of our best and brightest to watching planes and the Weather channel when we have perfectly good idiots that could do that for minimum wage?

I think we need to rethink how we allocate money for "studies" because I think the money would be better spent trying new things to fight Leukemia than predicting the migratory pattern changes in a rare type of Heron during El Nino years.

Man, in 10,000 years when aliens find Earth, they are going to think American's were really "weird."

I can only think of three reasons for any flight to be delayed:
weather
mechanical
runway traffic

So what is so mind-boggling about the result?

Grav8e: That's where "still no cure for cancer" comes in. Scientists researching things that are completely obvious to the layman are wasting time and money that could be spent on other, more important things, like curing cancer.

I never thought I'd have to explain that...

flight delays have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HUB AND SPOKE SYSTEM. surely not. it's the most efficient and resilient model for profitable flight delays.

If plains don't get enough rain you'll end up in a dust bowl.

Flying out of El Paso in the early 1990s eas a trip. Folks from Juarez were always trying to bring chickens and large, heavy car parts on the plane.

They've already established cancer won't/can't be cured for another 20 to 40 years.

Skinnk,

I'm sure "hassling grandma's so Islamic fundamentalist won't feel like we are unfairly targeting them" will replace bad weather as the numbr one cause of flight delays......but only if we decide to go with this weird "politically correct police state" thing.

Looks like y'all may need a new cliche in the near future;

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104730,00.html

Well, one can only hope.

Headline should be:

Exhaustive study determines most flight delays are due to bad weather. Still no cure for weather.

I suspect a fair number of "weather delays" are like the one my girlfriend experienced on Christmas day of last year.

She was flying out of Jackson, MS to Chattanooga, TN, but had to change plans in Atlanta. Well, the first flight from Atlanta to Chattanooga was cancelled due to weather. That's strange, because planes are still taking off from Atlanta as well as landing in Chattanooga. You can make the drive from one to the other in 2 hours, so it's not like they're in two completely different weather systems. It was slightly rainy, but temperatures were a good 10 degrees above where they'd have to be for ice to even begin to appear.

Oh, but there were only a few people scheduled to be on that first flight. So those people got bumped because of "weather" and had to fly on the next plane. Farking airlines.

This "exhaustive study" consisted of the government asking airlines how many of the past years' flight delays were their fault. I'm not surprised that they consistently blamed the weather.

Funny story: Last winter I was in a long line of Toronto-bound passengers at the Air Canada counter in Calgary, trying to find out why our departure had been delayed two hours. The "customer service" droid announced that there was no point leaving on time because Toronto airport was closed due to a blizzard. Out come 50 cellphones, to call friends and relatives in Toronto and discover that, in fact, there was NO blizzard. After 30 minutes or so of heated discussion, we were all put on a different flight, and we proceded to sunny Toronto without further incident. Got free drinks too. W00t!

Dewars,

How awesome would it be for the researchers if that thing worked?

What's their stock symbol by the way?

;)

GobyWan
Grav8e: That's where "still no cure for cancer" comes in. Scientists researching things that are completely obvious to the layman are wasting time and money that could be spent on other, more important things, like curing cancer.

'Still no cure for cancer' is moderatley funny when actual scientists publish actual results of an actual study that has questionable scientific merit.

This was some yutz at USA today using Excel to summarize data published by the Government. Said yutz is about as likely to contibute to a cure for cancer as my fridge.

diskop
They've already established cancer won't/can't be cured for another 20 to 40 years.

Yeah, but who are 'They' and why should we trust them?

dewars-rocks
Looks like y'all may need a new cliche in the near future;
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104730,00.html
Well, one can only hope.

My dad underwent this procedure shortly before he died - sort of a last ditch effort. Didn't work for him, but apparently it has sent some terminal patients into remission.

dogfather_jr

They are cancer researchers and specialists.

Anything's impossible, Impaler....anything.

In other news, JAMA is publishing an article that is retracting almost everything they said years ago about casual drinking being good for you just like they always do.

Anyone ever suspect that "scientists" is really just a word for a guy in his basement with a lucky coin?

"Tails! Looks like eggs are bad this year. Now we spin the wheel of organs......yup, kidneys......and the wheel of detremental condition.....necrosis...."

Eggs will make your kidneys slowly die if eaten in large amounts!

End of study

diskop
They are cancer researchers and specialists.

Aha. Just curious - when did they say this? I don't remember hearing about it.

Impaler: A geologist? What did I miss here?

Anyone who flies regularly can come up with "Planes are rarely delayed for other reasons than bad weather" just by looking at the flight schedule and then out the window. Same with studies saying "College students binge drink" and whatnot - shiat that we already know that they've decided to scientifically prove.

dogfather_jr: It's not so much funny in a purely funny sense as it is sarcastic and slighty frustrated. I admit that article submitters can and do misuse the cliche, but when it's used in its appropriate context, it's more of an eye-roll than anything.