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(Slate)   Just in case you get all your science knowledge from episodes of CSI, here's an article explaining that some items in SkyMall may not work like they claim   (slate.com) divider line 53
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2012-11-23 05:54:04 PM
There's a reason why I stick to NCIS.
 
2012-11-23 05:59:37 PM
Why bother with Skymall? I go to the source. I need to harass Design Tuscano again so I get their catalogs full of overpriced artwork and objects d'art like a hooker-legs coffee table.

Fragile?
 
2012-11-23 06:00:32 PM
Oooh. Or the alien butler free-standing tray table. More stupid shiat
 
2012-11-23 06:03:56 PM
I'm surprised vets haven't gotten in on the DNA testing for breed scam yet. Maybe it's because they'd have more to lose each time they're proven wrong.

The great thing about ultrasonic pest repellers and deer whistles is you can't hear them not working.
 
2012-11-23 06:07:18 PM

ConConHead: Oooh. Or the alien butler free-standing tray table. More stupid shiat


Thanks, I clicked your link
now Tuscano is in all my sidebars
 
2012-11-23 06:10:29 PM

tinyarena: ConConHead: Oooh. Or the alien butler free-standing tray table. More stupid shiat

Thanks, I clicked your link
now Tuscano is in all my sidebars


Is this good or bad? Because knowing Tuscano it can go either way.
 
2012-11-23 06:19:40 PM

ConConHead: tinyarena: ConConHead: Oooh. Or the alien butler free-standing tray table. More stupid shiat

Thanks, I clicked your link
now Tuscano is in all my sidebars

Is this good or bad? Because knowing Tuscano it can go either way.


img59.imageshack.us
Aliens and scarecrows?
For the love of God
.MAKE.IT.STOP.
 
2012-11-23 06:34:11 PM
OTOH, I *did* get a kick out of her game.
 
2012-11-23 07:06:02 PM
Thundershirt does seem to work to some degree on a relative's dog. It used to cower under the bed or tables during a storm and whimper, but now it sits calmly during a storm.
 
2012-11-23 07:19:27 PM
It's comforting to know I'm not the only one who plays that game with catalogs - what little I read of them, anyway.
 
2012-11-23 07:26:48 PM

Glitchwerks: Thundershirt does seem to work to some degree on a relative's dog. It used to cower under the bed or tables during a storm and whimper, but now it sits calmly during a storm.


Weird. My head just replaced the 'its' with 'I'.
 
2012-11-23 07:31:10 PM
The message I get from CSI is that every staff member can do every job, from collecting evidence, to identifying the provenance of 1875 Hungarian handwriting samples, to running facial recognition on hamsters, to repairing the Mass Spectrometer. Cross training at its finest.
 
2012-11-23 07:48:25 PM
Synchronicity! (Synchronicity is also pseudoscientific, but....)

About 20 minutes ago, I came across this description of Rebecca Watson (author of this piece at Slate) at the website of Rebecca Bradley, a Canadian fantasy writer with a Ph.D in archaeology.

... since I did not find Elevatorgate very interesting while the crisis was on, I either skipped or skimmed any discussion of it. Just another overblown internet flap, I thought. Anyway, I remembered Rebecca Watson from her pre-banning days on JREF, and considered her a lightweight then, a kind of frat-girl given to not terribly witty jokes. My skimming, though, left me with the vague impression that Watson had morphed into a brave martyr for women's rights, that the lovely Richard Dawkins had blotted his copybook, and that an evil troll blog-nymmed ERV was flapping her leathery wings around the edge of the lighted space, along with legions of her slimy minions. It appears I was wrong on all counts. 

Apparently Rebecca the frat-girl given to not terribly witty jokes has found a home at Slate.
 
2012-11-23 07:51:02 PM
Hmm, nothing about how judgement gets a little fuzzy when you're quickly moved from sea level to 10k feet.

I know that from a family trip to Colorado that included a ride on the Durango-Silverton railroad and buying stupid shiat at altitude.
 
2012-11-23 07:53:59 PM
Why does Skymall allow that sort of thing? You would think they have a vested interest in ensuring their product is only used to sell stuff that actually does what it says. I mean, I know the truth doesn't sell product, but on the other hand being well-known as the laughingstock of catalogs isn't doing much for their clients either.
 
2012-11-23 07:57:12 PM

RoyBatty: Apparently Rebecca the frat-girl given to not terribly witty jokes has found a home at Slate.


Small sample size, but Watson comes off a lot wittier than Bradley. Also, who the hell blogs about their forum exploits?
 
2012-11-23 07:59:59 PM
I always thought Skymall was The Sharper Image's version of Valhalla; once TSI died here on Earth, it was mercifully allowed to ascend and lives on at 15,000 feet. Continuing the tradition of selling useless schmaltz.
 
2012-11-23 08:20:14 PM
I don't get it. Sharper Image took a major hit for selling those fake air purifiers.

Why do other companies get away with selling expensive electronic placebos? Are they just flying (pun intended) under the radar of Consumer Reports?
 
2012-11-23 08:25:58 PM

swahnhennessy: RoyBatty: Apparently Rebecca the frat-girl given to not terribly witty jokes has found a home at Slate.

Small sample size, but Watson comes off a lot wittier than Bradley. Also, who the hell blogs about their forum exploits?

about their forum exploits


... meet the Internet 2012 where poutraged people of all types blog about their daily forum victories and humiliations. 

Also Bradley is writing as woman, scientist, and atheist about her reaction to Watson's Elevator Gate, her reactions to what she has seen has the coarsening of discourse amongst atheists, and as to the unjustified reactions and name calling of a friend of hers.
 
2012-11-23 08:27:30 PM
This is a good one a 8GB USB thumb drive for $60 bucks Link You can get these for under ten dollars now anywhere else
 
2012-11-23 08:42:19 PM

nytmare: I'm surprised vets haven't gotten in on the DNA testing for breed scam yet. Maybe it's because they'd have more to lose each time they're proven wrong.

The great thing about ultrasonic pest repellers and deer whistles is you can't hear them not working.


I think they have. Wheaton (I think) had a tweet the other day saying they got one of his dogs DNA tested to prove it wasn't a full pit bull, as having one wouldn't have been covered under their homeowners insurance or something like that.
 
2012-11-23 08:51:20 PM

jayhawk88: nytmare: I'm surprised vets haven't gotten in on the DNA testing for breed scam yet. Maybe it's because they'd have more to lose each time they're proven wrong.

The great thing about ultrasonic pest repellers and deer whistles is you can't hear them not working.

I think they have. Wheaton (I think) had a tweet the other day saying they got one of his dogs DNA tested to prove it wasn't a full pit bull, as having one wouldn't have been covered under their homeowners insurance or something like that.


I've seen some legitimate research for DNA on dog breeds, but this was more for testing fur for forensic identification (you might be surprised how often pet fur is used to help link a person to a crime). This was a few years ago, though, and it was a colleague's work, so I haven't kept up on it to see how it's going.
 
2012-11-23 09:02:27 PM

jjorsett: The message I get from CSI is that every staff member can do every job, from collecting evidence, to identifying the provenance of 1875 Hungarian handwriting samples, to running facial recognition on hamsters, to repairing the Mass Spectrometer. Cross training at its finest.


Don't forget suspect interrogation and leading raids on the perps' lair.
 
2012-11-23 09:29:06 PM
Thunder shirt© seems to have (minor, but noticed) calmed skittish dog during storms/4th of July. However, not sure if he's more calm, or just afraid to move because he feels constricted. Pretty much got the same response when I put a walking harness on him. Just sits there and whines...
 
2012-11-23 09:37:54 PM

BolloxReader: There's a reason why I stick to NCIS.


Let me guess: Abby?
 
2012-11-23 09:38:56 PM

phamwaa: jjorsett: The message I get from CSI is that every staff member can do every job, from collecting evidence, to identifying the provenance of 1875 Hungarian handwriting samples, to running facial recognition on hamsters, to repairing the Mass Spectrometer. Cross training at its finest.

Don't forget suspect interrogation and leading raids on the perps' lair.


And creating an IP address scanner written in Visual Basic.NET.
 
2012-11-23 09:40:22 PM

swahnhennessy: RoyBatty: Apparently Rebecca the frat-girl given to not terribly witty jokes has found a home at Slate.

Small sample size, but Watson comes off a lot wittier than Bradley. Also, who the hell blogs about their forum exploits?


I know both of them. Watson's a lot of fun to hang with and fairly smart, but I think the frat-girl comment isn't totally off the mark.

Bradley's brilliantly smart. Spending time with her and her husband made me feel stupid, in a good way. I was out of my league and in awe.
 
2012-11-23 09:41:41 PM

Znuh: I always thought Skymall was The Sharper Image's version of Valhalla; once TSI died here on Earth, it was mercifully allowed to ascend and lives on at 15,000 feet. Continuing the tradition of selling useless schmaltz.


That's the greatest use of the Norse afterlife since I compared Second Life to Furry Valhalla.

I Approve
+1
+1
 
2012-11-23 10:14:38 PM
 
2012-11-23 10:29:37 PM

DysphoricMania: Thunder shirt© seems to have (minor, but noticed) calmed skittish dog during storms/4th of July. However, not sure if he's more calm, or just afraid to move because he feels constricted. Pretty much got the same response when I put a walking harness on him. Just sits there and whines...


Mine's just learned to run (well, trot) to my Jeep and stand by its door when he gets harnessed (never had a harness before this).
 
2012-11-23 10:40:12 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: This is a good one a 8GB USB thumb drive for $60 bucks Link You can get these for under ten dollars now anywhere else


Yeah, but the one you linked isn't archival quality.
 
2012-11-23 10:52:43 PM

rustypouch: swahnhennessy: RoyBatty: Apparently Rebecca the frat-girl given to not terribly witty jokes has found a home at Slate.

Small sample size, but Watson comes off a lot wittier than Bradley. Also, who the hell blogs about their forum exploits?

I know both of them. Watson's a lot of fun to hang with and fairly smart, but I think the frat-girl comment isn't totally off the mark.

Bradley's brilliantly smart. Spending time with her and her husband made me feel stupid, in a good way. I was out of my league and in awe.


Maybe, but the catty dissing of the distressingly few females regularly writing on skeptic topics is not endearing.
 
2012-11-23 10:55:18 PM
Who would buy this?

ii-prod-rw.marketlive.com

Yes they are doing exactly what you think...
 
2012-11-23 11:05:59 PM

revrendjim: Maybe, but the catty dissing of the distressingly few females regularly writing on skeptic topics is not endearing.


Well "catty" is a very sexist way to describe how one woman dismissed another woman and it runs headlong into your very sexist way to complain that it is unfair or wrong to critique a writer if that writer is a female that writes about an interest of yours.

Third, there was no cheap or easy dismissal, she describes how she went back and read all the various posts before coming up with her conclusion.

Fourth, what the fark did Rebecca Watson write about in Slate? Some important piece about Atheism? Skepticism? A humor piece? Did it make you laugh?

What the fark did she write?

"Some products on Skymall may be claiming scientific support they do not have."

Seems like light weight shiat to me and of no news value and little value to Skepticism whatsoever.

Who used to write the atheist angle for Slate? Christopher, oh I forget his last name, now that Rebecca Watson seems to be covering it so well.
 
2012-11-23 11:06:26 PM
I always thought that skymall was the grown-up version of this:

www.collectorsweekly.com
 
2012-11-23 11:09:47 PM
www.collectorsweekly.com
 
2012-11-23 11:28:22 PM
Great SkyMall product reviews:

http://www.somethingawful.com/series/78.php
 
2012-11-23 11:37:37 PM

RoyBatty: Well "catty" is a very sexist way to describe how one woman dismissed another woman and it runs headlong into your very sexist way to complain that it is unfair or wrong to critique a writer if that writer is a female that writes about an interest of yours.


I know. I used that word on purpose because I thought it was funny. Or maybe ironic.

RoyBatty: What the fark did she write?


I'm talking about her work since the beginning of Skepchick, not this particular article. I also think ERV was mentioned.

RoyBatty: Who used to write the atheist angle for Slate? Christopher, oh I forget his last name,


Yes, he is irreplaceable. Or or you stepping up to the plate?
 
2012-11-23 11:57:03 PM
Axel_Gear: Yes they are doing exactly what you think...

It looks like one of them is trying to slam the other into the ground head first, and the other one is willing to fight dirty.
 
2012-11-23 11:58:44 PM

revrendjim: RoyBatty: Well "catty" is a very sexist way to describe how one woman dismissed another woman and it runs headlong into your very sexist way to complain that it is unfair or wrong to critique a writer if that writer is a female that writes about an interest of yours.

I know. I used that word on purpose because I thought it was funny. Or maybe ironic.

RoyBatty: What the fark did she write?

I'm talking about her work since the beginning of Skepchick, not this particular article. I also think ERV was mentioned.

RoyBatty: Who used to write the atheist angle for Slate? Christopher, oh I forget his last name,

Yes, he is irreplaceable. Or or you stepping up to the plate?


"are"
 
Skr
2012-11-24 12:47:10 AM
Hammacher Schlemmer has a lot of weird f-ing shiat too. Same company?
 
2012-11-24 12:57:33 AM

IrieTom: I always thought that skymall was the grown-up version of this:

[www.collectorsweekly.com image 600x375]


Yup. Had this image in my clipboard ready to paste:

www.zrot.com
 
2012-11-24 01:32:31 AM

Skr: Hammacher Schlemmer has a lot of weird f-ing shiat too. Same company?


Same shiat even found the USB stick from the other one on that site
 
2012-11-24 01:44:58 AM

Axel_Gear: Who would buy this?



Yes they are doing exactly what you think...


Fixing the cable?
 
2012-11-24 01:53:19 AM

Skr: Hammacher Schlemmer has a lot of weird f-ing shiat too. Same company?


Yup, they're one of the brands sold by SkyMall.
 
2012-11-24 02:59:34 AM
SkyMall is a "must read" for me when I fly. So much funny in one catalog.
 
2012-11-24 03:13:09 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Axel_Gear: Who would buy this?



Yes they are doing exactly what you think...

Fixing the cable?


Don't be fatuous.
 
2012-11-24 03:40:55 AM

Glitchwerks: Thundershirt does seem to work to some degree on a relative's dog. It used to cower under the bed or tables during a storm and whimper, but now it sits calmly during a storm.


Yeah, well if you read the "expose" part there, they actually say that there has been some research done in this area. Kind of like how the cat toilet training system can actually work as well. Jesus, this article was like watching Mythbusters, they'll find something that seems to at least be plausible by their tests(Or even work, but not with the exact 100% specs from the "myth"), but then they'll call it "Busted" because that's what they wanted to do all along.

IMHO, this article sucks because only 2 seem to officially not work, the others are either an excuse to say something "clever", or just to fill space, apparently.
 
2012-11-24 03:43:08 AM
www.skymall.com

I heard this one can't even slay dragons
 
2012-11-24 04:12:03 AM
Next thing you know, they'll be saying that shooting a propane tank with a .45 won't cause it to blow up, you have to use a minigun with incendiary rounds.
 
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