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(SFX (UK))   49 years ago today, a children's show debuted on the BBC at 5:15 PM starring a gray-haired old man as some kind of Doctor, his jailbait granddaughter, and their blue Police box. Of course, that show was The Basil Brush Show   (sfx.co.uk) divider line 94
    More: Spiffy, Patrick Troughton, William Hartnell, Jon Pertwee, Chris Chibnall, David Tennant  
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2012-11-23 12:57:02 PM
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25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-23 01:04:01 PM
I liked most of the actors, ranking Tom Baker as the best and Jon Pertwee as the least (to be fair, he had the lamest scripts).
 
2012-11-23 01:12:12 PM

simplicimus: I liked most of the actors, ranking Tom Baker as the best and Jon Pertwee as the least (to be fair, he had the lamest scripts).


Lame script wise goes to Colin Baker...who was the least loved of the Doctors.

Pertwee made the Doctor a man of action, instead of just the brains.
 
2012-11-23 01:14:55 PM

Darth_Lukecash: simplicimus: I liked most of the actors, ranking Tom Baker as the best and Jon Pertwee as the least (to be fair, he had the lamest scripts).

Lame script wise goes to Colin Baker...who was the least loved of the Doctors.

Pertwee made the Doctor a man of action, instead of just the brains.


And he did it all while looking like your grandmother.

2.bp.blogspot.com

/Colin Baker had the potential to be a great Doctor. Vengeance on Varos was a sampling of what his Doctor could do with a decent script. But too many things combined to make his run not that great.
 
2012-11-23 01:45:18 PM
I really don't blame Colin Baker too much. He had a producer who really didn't want to do the show, but no one wanted to replace him. C.Baker really tried to be different-but he does bear the responsibility of making the doctor too unlikeable.


But the main thing was the head of the BBC was a big throbbing wanker.
 
2012-11-23 01:55:00 PM

Darth_Lukecash: I really don't blame Colin Baker too much. He had a producer who really didn't want to do the show, but no one wanted to replace him. C.Baker really tried to be different-but he does bear the responsibility of making the doctor too unlikeable.


But the main thing was the head of the BBC was a big throbbing wanker.


C. Baker's idea was to start his Doctor off as a huge asshole, affected by the poisonous regeneration, and to eventually soften over time until he was more likeable.

Of course, he never had the chance.

Also, Baker 2 wanted to be the first Doctor in a black leather jacket, pre-dating Eccleston by 20 years but, well, Technicolor Dreamcoat.
 
2012-11-23 01:55:17 PM
Tennant blows them all away, but that's because he was the best actor and also given the most to work with. I hate 60's and 70's cheesy camp Sci-fi. It just deserves parody. Good stories, still, but the production and execution were really ugh.
 
2012-11-23 02:00:45 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Tennant blows them all away, but that's because he was the best actor and also given the most to work with. I hate 60's and 70's cheesy camp Sci-fi. It just deserves parody. Good stories, still, but the production and execution were really ugh.


Tennant gets knocked below Eccleston and on-par with Smith for the horrible whiny emo finale.

...and Smith still has time to do better.
 
2012-11-23 02:41:03 PM
Pierce Brosnan was a great Bond, he was handed scripts of successively lower quality, but he never phoned it in. While the plots were sometimes lackluster, his Bond was always Bond.
 
2012-11-23 02:43:02 PM

BronyMedic: [Cue Dramatic Music]


Go away.
 
2012-11-23 02:43:20 PM
I saw no pics of "jailbait granddaughter" in that article. I haz a disappoint.
 
2012-11-23 02:45:35 PM
Mmmmm Susan...
 
2012-11-23 02:46:25 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Pierce Brosnan was a great Bond, he was handed scripts of successively lower quality, but he never phoned it in. While the plots were sometimes lackluster, his Bond was always Bond.


I see what you did there.
 
2012-11-23 02:46:52 PM
And now their fans won't shut up about it.

Yes, I know you're a fan. You don't need to bring it up at every opportunity.
 
2012-11-23 02:47:39 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Darth_Lukecash: I really don't blame Colin Baker too much. He had a producer who really didn't want to do the show, but no one wanted to replace him. C.Baker really tried to be different-but he does bear the responsibility of making the doctor too unlikeable.


But the main thing was the head of the BBC was a big throbbing wanker.

C. Baker's idea was to start his Doctor off as a huge asshole, affected by the poisonous regeneration, and to eventually soften over time until he was more likeable.

Of course, he never had the chance.

Also, Baker 2 wanted to be the first Doctor in a black leather jacket, pre-dating Eccleston by 20 years but, well, Technicolor Dreamcoat.


Yeah, pretty much. Colin's idea had merit, sadly there was nothing he could do about everything around him at the time.
 
2012-11-23 02:53:23 PM

Grither: I saw no pics of "jailbait granddaughter" in that article. I haz a disappoint.


25.media.tumblr.com

www.bbc.co.uk

24.media.tumblr.com 

/happy now?
 
2012-11-23 02:54:00 PM
C Baker has some great moments in Trial of a Timelord but it's just such a letdown when it gets to the end. A total cop-out ending and some of the more annoying companions. (except for Sabalom Glitz). And his coat makes it so hard to take him seriously. It's a beautiful beautiful pattern from a costumer's standpoint if you can get past the f'd up fabric.
 
2012-11-23 02:54:18 PM
I'll start:

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www.rassi.com


Katy Manning NSFW

s3.amazonaws.com

currentlyhot.com

media.celebrity-pictures.ca 

/hot
 
2012-11-23 02:55:55 PM

FirstNationalBastard: PC LOAD LETTER: Tennant blows them all away, but that's because he was the best actor and also given the most to work with. I hate 60's and 70's cheesy camp Sci-fi. It just deserves parody. Good stories, still, but the production and execution were really ugh.

Tennant gets knocked below Eccleston and on-par with Smith for the horrible whiny emo finale.

...and Smith still has time to do better.


Smith, IMHO, is far better in Tennant in one big way: he plays the doctor as an old man child alien. He dosent look at a young 19 year old girl and think..I gotta get me a piece of that. Tennant was stuck on romance far too much.

Colin Bakers approach was a lot like Hatnels original run...in the first story, the doctor was a arrogant, mean bastard... willing to murder in cold blood.

I know a lot of people have trouble with the earlier "campy" version of the Doctor Who- but at the time, BBC really didn't have a lot of money nor the reasources to pull off Hollywood style show.

Tom Baker mentioned in the Keys of Time DVD- Star Wars really upped the SFX expectations of the audience...and later shows like Star Trek TNG really made Doctor Who look like crap.

Part of the camp aspect lies in the person playing the doctor-Smith/T. Baker/McCoy/Troughton and the writers...Douglas Adams who were writing Satire.
 
2012-11-23 03:02:30 PM

OtherLittleGuy: I'll start:

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[www.rassi.com image 240x326]


Katy Manning NSFW

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[media.celebrity-pictures.ca image 850x637] 

/hot


netflowers.files.wordpress.com

scyfilove.com

Yes. Jack too. I'm straight and I'd do him.
 
2012-11-23 03:04:15 PM
I see I'm the first to give Mister Brush some appreciation.

www.belgische-herdershond.com

/so British, he sh*ts the Queen.
 
2012-11-23 03:06:27 PM
Welcome to the new squeeze.

www.musingsofamuse.com
 
2012-11-23 03:12:13 PM

OtherLittleGuy: I'll start:

[img137.imageshack.us image 628x414]

[www.rassi.com image 240x326]


Katy Manning NSFW

[s3.amazonaws.com image 454x777]

[currentlyhot.com image 682x450]

[media.celebrity-pictures.ca image 850x637] 

/hot


no neked billie from secret diaries of a call girl ??
 
2012-11-23 03:12:19 PM
In a competition featuring the original Outer Limits, the original (only) Twilight Zone, The Invaders, etc., and a robot armed witha toilet plunger, why would any kid have preferred the latter?

/never watched it
 
2012-11-23 03:22:39 PM

barefoot in the head: In a competition featuring the original Outer Limits, the original (only) Twilight Zone, The Invaders, etc., and a robot armed witha toilet plunger, why would any kid have preferred the latter?

/never watched it


The 1980s Twilight Zone was quite good, in part due to Harlan Ellison being one of the script editors. Of course, the producers then screwed him over on the screenplay he did about an evil Santa Clause.
 
2012-11-23 03:25:01 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: barefoot in the head: In a competition featuring the original Outer Limits, the original (only) Twilight Zone, The Invaders, etc., and a robot armed witha toilet plunger, why would any kid have preferred the latter?

/never watched it

The 1980s Twilight Zone was quite good, in part due to Harlan Ellison being one of the script editors. Of course, the producers then screwed him over on the screenplay he did about an evil Santa Clause.


JMS did some decent episodes amid the sea of mediocrity in season 3.
 
2012-11-23 03:44:29 PM
I like British TV.
I like sci-fi.
I like most of the pop culture stuff that Farkers like.

I can't stand Dr. Who.

What's wrong with me?
 
2012-11-23 04:09:49 PM

FirstNationalBastard: PC LOAD LETTER: Tennant blows them all away, but that's because he was the best actor and also given the most to work with. I hate 60's and 70's cheesy camp Sci-fi. It just deserves parody. Good stories, still, but the production and execution were really ugh.

Tennant gets knocked below Eccleston and on-par with Smith for the horrible whiny emo finale.

...and Smith still has time to do better.


Eccleston sucked.
Tennant rocked.
Smith is perfectly fine so far.
 
2012-11-23 04:17:13 PM
FirstNationalBastard And he did it all while looking like your grandmother.

I can not watch Pertwee's stuff because of this. He looks like my mother's first boss: this old Italian lady who had too many facelifts, too much snowbird Florida sun, and too many boys she paid for.
 
2012-11-23 04:17:22 PM

Bleyo: I like British TV.
I like sci-fi.
I like most of the pop culture stuff that Farkers like.

I can't stand Dr. Who.

What's wrong with me?


The answer is in the question.
 
2012-11-23 04:25:37 PM
Eccleston is the best 'un.
 
2012-11-23 04:28:11 PM

KawaiiNot: FirstNationalBastard: PC LOAD LETTER: Tennant blows them all away, but that's because he was the best actor and also given the most to work with. I hate 60's and 70's cheesy camp Sci-fi. It just deserves parody. Good stories, still, but the production and execution were really ugh.

Tennant gets knocked below Eccleston and on-par with Smith for the horrible whiny emo finale.

...and Smith still has time to do better.

EcclestonSmith sucked.
Tennant rocked.
SmithEccleston was perfectly fine.


FTFY

Smith's Doctor just has no character. He's milk powder on white canvas hung from a white wall in a museum carved from limestone. Utterly forgettable, even while actively watching the show. There's no "there" there.
 
2012-11-23 04:54:30 PM

Duck_of_Doom: FirstNationalBastard And he did it all while looking like your grandmother.

I can not watch Pertwee's stuff because of this. He looks like my mother's first boss: this old Italian lady who had too many facelifts, too much snowbird Florida sun, and too many boys she paid for.


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So what does he remind you in this one then?

/Pertwee fan from way back.
//Top three Doctors ever, he's in it.
 
2012-11-23 04:58:21 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
Boom Boom!
 
2012-11-23 05:08:08 PM
never watched it before T.Baker
haven't watched it again since T.Baker

/jelly baby?
 
2012-11-23 05:29:37 PM

Jackpot777: I see I'm the first to give Mister Brush some appreciation.

[www.belgische-herdershond.com image 300x422]

/so British, he sh*ts the Queen.


Why did you post a picture of Bruce Forsyth?

/nice to see you
//to see you, nice
 
2012-11-23 05:39:19 PM
Remember when the Doctor painted a portrait of Jack Lemmon? Best episode ever.

thomas-stewart-baker.com
 
2012-11-23 05:42:38 PM

LordOfThePings: Remember when the Doctor painted a portrait of Jack Lemmon? Best episode ever.

[thomas-stewart-baker.com image 683x560]


Needs happy trees
 
2012-11-23 05:53:03 PM
Remember when the Doctor painted a portrait of Jack Lemmon? Best episode ever.

that's Tom Jones
 
2012-11-23 05:57:21 PM

Jackpot777: Welcome to the new squeeze.

[www.musingsofamuse.com image 460x460]


I'd like to squeeze into her box
 
2012-11-23 05:58:42 PM

Public Call Box: Duck_of_Doom: FirstNationalBastard And he did it all while looking like your grandmother.

I can not watch Pertwee's stuff because of this. He looks like my mother's first boss: this old Italian lady who had too many facelifts, too much snowbird Florida sun, and too many boys she paid for.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 611x474]

So what does he remind you in this one then?

/Pertwee fan from way back.
//Top three Doctors ever, he's in it.


This is your idea of a Lord of Time? That picture is absolutely obscene. I can't believe he's holding that... that... you know what, I can't even say it. And is that a sponge? Seriously? Gross! I don't want to think about what that implies regarding the elderly blue-blood's intentions towards the fenestral pane behind him. Honestly, how is this SFW?!

/Humans sure are weird.
//And Perverts!
 
2012-11-23 06:05:52 PM
In before LORD UP IN OF THIS TIME biatch
 
2012-11-23 06:10:28 PM

Heron: Public Call Box: Duck_of_Doom: FirstNationalBastard And he did it all while looking like your grandmother.

I can not watch Pertwee's stuff because of this. He looks like my mother's first boss: this old Italian lady who had too many facelifts, too much snowbird Florida sun, and too many boys she paid for.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 611x474]

So what does he remind you in this one then?

/Pertwee fan from way back.
//Top three Doctors ever, he's in it.

This is your idea of a Lord of Time? That picture is absolutely obscene. I can't believe he's holding that... that... you know what, I can't even say it. And is that a sponge? Seriously? Gross! I don't want to think about what that implies regarding the elderly blue-blood's intentions towards the fenestral pane behind him. Honestly, how is this SFW?!

/Humans sure are weird.
//And Perverts!


Well if a still picture had that kind of reaction, I can't wait to see what this film clip will do!

Pertwee as a Washerwoman

/Of course, I feel like doctor Clayton Forrester at this point.
//DEEP HURTING
 
2012-11-23 06:12:41 PM
Let's try that again.

Pertwee in Drag

/Seriously, this shouldn't be that hard
//That's what Richard Franklin said!
///Oo-er!
 
2012-11-23 06:59:35 PM
Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-11-23 07:36:24 PM

JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]


I'm sorry, but you're wrong. That honor goes to Jack.
 
2012-11-23 07:40:43 PM

BronyMedic: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. That honor goes to Jack.


Not a full ongoing companion to me. Otherwise, we'd have to consider this little shiat for worst Companion and that would be awful:

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-11-23 07:43:36 PM

JosephFinn: Not a full ongoing companion to me. Otherwise, we'd have to consider this little shiat for worst Companion and that would be awful:


Still. This scene made me squee.

www.eyeofhorus.org.uk

Jack's just bad-assed, period.

blog.ohinternet.com
 
2012-11-23 07:46:17 PM

BronyMedic: JosephFinn: Not a full ongoing companion to me. Otherwise, we'd have to consider this little shiat for worst Companion and that would be awful:

Still. This scene made me squee.

[www.eyeofhorus.org.uk image 693x426]

Jack's just bad-assed, period.

[blog.ohinternet.com image 750x600]


Yes. Yes, he fraking is. And we all would.
 
2012-11-23 08:07:02 PM

JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]


Why is she a popular companion?
 
2012-11-23 08:07:28 PM

JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]


i137.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-23 08:09:24 PM

StopLurkListen: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]

Why is she a popular companion?


Good question. I thought she was overwrought and whiny
 
2012-11-23 08:10:06 PM
I heard somewhere that the first Doctor is always your favorite.
That's why I'll always love Eccelston over all of them.

"EVERYBODY LIVES!"

/first scene from Dr. Who I teared up on
 
2012-11-23 08:11:41 PM

LargeCanine: StopLurkListen: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]

Why is she a popular companion?

Good question. I thought she was overwrought and whiny


Because she wasn't there to look good and bat her eyes.
She didn't take any crap and held her own.
She wasn't a "yes man" so to speak.
 
2012-11-23 08:21:27 PM

Zombie DJ: LargeCanine: StopLurkListen: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]

Why is she a popular companion?

Good question. I thought she was overwrought and whiny

Because she wasn't there to look good and bat her eyes.
She didn't take any crap and held her own.
She wasn't a "yes man" so to speak.


That was not my impression of the charactor, but I respect the PoV.
 
2012-11-23 08:41:06 PM

Zombie DJ: I heard somewhere that the first Doctor is always your favorite.
That's why I'll always love Eccelston over all of them.

"EVERYBODY LIVES!"

/first scene from Dr. Who I teared up on


Yeah, that was probably of the coolest eps. in his run. The ghosts of his recent past get shed for that one moment and you cheer for him, loudly.
 
2012-11-23 08:50:45 PM

Kuroshin: KawaiiNot: FirstNationalBastard: PC LOAD LETTER: Tennant blows them all away, but that's because he was the best actor and also given the most to work with. I hate 60's and 70's cheesy camp Sci-fi. It just deserves parody. Good stories, still, but the production and execution were really ugh.

Tennant gets knocked below Eccleston and on-par with Smith for the horrible whiny emo finale.

...and Smith still has time to do better.

EcclestonSmith sucked.
Tennant rocked.
SmithEccleston was perfectly fine.

FTFY

Smith's Doctor just has no character. He's milk powder on white canvas hung from a white wall in a museum carved from limestone. Utterly forgettable, even while actively watching the show. There's no "there" there.


Smith sorta comes off like he's trying to copy Tennant but throwing in a pinch of prudish grandma judgement. STILL easier to watch then Eccleston.
 
2012-11-23 09:11:20 PM
I like them all, but Sylvester McCoy was hands down the best Doctor.

imageshack.us
 
2012-11-23 09:16:05 PM

Zombie DJ: I heard somewhere that the first Doctor is always your favorite.


Not for me. I started with Pertwee, but Baker's my favorite.

/Sarah Jane is my favorite companion, though.
//Haven't seen the new series.
 
2012-11-23 09:24:29 PM
Peter Cushing was the best Doctor.

/too obvious?
 
2012-11-23 09:52:26 PM

Zombie DJ: LargeCanine: StopLurkListen: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]

Why is she a popular companion?

Good question. I thought she was overwrought and whiny

Because she wasn't there to look good and bat her eyes.
She didn't take any crap and held her own.
She wasn't a "yes man" so to speak.


Damn straight.
 
2012-11-23 09:56:12 PM

JosephFinn: Zombie DJ: LargeCanine: StopLurkListen: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]

Why is she a popular companion?

Good question. I thought she was overwrought and whiny

Because she wasn't there to look good and bat her eyes.
She didn't take any crap and held her own.
She wasn't a "yes man" so to speak.

Damn straight.


Yeah, this. The chemistry between her and David was great.

Hope to see that pairing for the 50th Anniversary episode.
 
2012-11-23 10:14:03 PM

OtherLittleGuy: I'll start:

[img137.imageshack.us image 628x414]

[www.rassi.com image 240x326]


Katy Manning NSFW

[s3.amazonaws.com image 454x777]

[currentlyhot.com image 682x450]

currentlyhot.com

/hot


If it weren't for the panties and the hair, I wouldn't even know there was a woman in that photo. It's all just flat white planks.
 
2012-11-23 10:24:46 PM

KawaiiNot: Eccleston sucked.


It's tragic when it happens to someone you know.

I'll grant this for Tennant: he brought consistency to inconsistent script-writing. Of course, it was consistently hammy, but it was consistent. Tennant's rage-face was also consistently funny, which probably wasn't appropriate, but there it was.

While overall, I prefer the Smith era, I will grant that the script quality has mostly declined. Smith has yet to get a "Blink" or "Girl in the Fireplace", which goes to show: RTD was a terrible writer, but a great producer. Moffat was a great writer, not so great when he's also producing.
 
2012-11-23 10:29:01 PM

LordJiro: Peter Cushing was the best Doctor.

/too obvious?


I liked the guy who played his companion Tom. They should bring him into the new series.
 
2012-11-23 10:30:41 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-23 10:57:20 PM
For some reason, I never took a liking to Dr. Who, it was always too campy for me.

Which is funny because I've watched and enjoyed a lot of other Brit comedies.
 
2012-11-23 10:59:26 PM

JosephFinn: we'd have to consider this little shiat for worst Companion and that would be awful:


Sorry, but there's no comparison. The King still retains his throne
1.bp.blogspot.com 

I miss you, Sarah Jane :(
 
2012-11-23 11:12:30 PM
I started watching Dr. Who during the Tom Baker period. He really is "my doctor". Even though it's
sort of like a cliche' to say he's your favorite. Initially I didn't like Peter Davidson.But I came
to like him more as time went on, and after seeing repeats. I also really enjoyed the way too short
time of Sylvester McCoy. I also wasn't disappointed with the episodes I've seen of David Tennant.
But it's been hard for me to really love the newer shows.The campy older shows with bad special
effects were endearing to me. After going back and seeing the old episodes from the first Doctor,
I still kind of want that cheese. The new shows are almost too produced and polished..
 
2012-11-24 12:00:04 AM

LargeCanine: StopLurkListen: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]

Why is she a popular companion?

Good question. I thought she was overwrought and whiny


Overwrought and Whiny? Donna?

You've got the wrong redhead for "overwrought and whiny". I believe you were thinking of this one...

25.media.tumblr.com


KawaiiNot: Smith sorta comes off like he's trying to copy Tennant but throwing in a pinch of prudish grandma judgement. STILL easier to watch then Eccleston.


As I've said before, Smith hasn't really been given much to work with, since he's been starring in The Amy Pond Show for the last two seasons, and all his character has been tasked to do is FIND AMY HELP AMY LOVE AMY MISS AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY. Now that his stretch on that show is over with, and he's back to starring on Doctor Who, maybe we'll see what his Doctor can really be like.
 
2012-11-24 12:04:40 AM
I can't get in to Doctor Who in large part because I knew a guy in college who was active in fandom on a national, possibly international scale. The guy would find a way to turn absolutely any conversation in to a Doctor Who-related topic. He actually slept in a bed shaped like a Dalek. After meeting that guy, I know what the step below furries is on the Sci-fi Fandom Pecking order must be.

I did kind of run through the newer series since I know a lot of other people are fans. It's mostly a lot of silliness, but it's decidedly better than it was. I did like the meaner and grouchier guy played by Eccleston. The current guys have all been a big step up from the post-Colin Baker era.
 
2012-11-24 12:13:12 AM

Zombie DJ: LargeCanine: StopLurkListen: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]

Why is she a popular companion?

Good question. I thought she was overwrought and whiny

Because she wasn't there to look good and bat her eyes.
She didn't take any crap and held her own.
She wasn't a "yes man" so to speak.


tvwriter.net
 
2012-11-24 12:26:05 AM

likefunbutnot: I can't get in to Doctor Who in large part because I knew a guy in college who was active in fandom on a national, possibly international scale.


My mother won't use Linux because she knew a guy who used it and he was arrested for child abuse.
 
2012-11-24 01:07:32 AM

LargeCanine: Zombie DJ: LargeCanine: StopLurkListen: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]

Why is she a popular companion?

Good question. I thought she was overwrought and whiny

Because she wasn't there to look good and bat her eyes.
She didn't take any crap and held her own.
She wasn't a "yes man" so to speak.

That was not my impression of the charactor, but I respect the PoV.


Her story arc was the most tragic, actually. When she was introduced-she was a selfish, ignorant, boisterous woman. By the end of her arc, she had become selfless, learned and softened a bit. She also had the joy of becoming as smart as the Doctor...and felt like she could be his pal and be a true partner in their endeavors....

When the doctor had to remove all memory of their trips to save her life, she was begging him not to take everything she gained away. Doctor Donna would have honestly died at the top, than reduced back being that small, ignorant woman again.
 
2012-11-24 01:33:25 AM

t3knomanser: KawaiiNot: Eccleston sucked.

It's tragic when it happens to someone you know.

I'll grant this for Tennant: he brought consistency to inconsistent script-writing. Of course, it was consistently hammy, but it was consistent. Tennant's rage-face was also consistently funny, which probably wasn't appropriate, but there it was.

While overall, I prefer the Smith era, I will grant that the script quality has mostly declined. Smith has yet to get a "Blink" or "Girl in the Fireplace", which goes to show: RTD was a terrible writer, but a great producer. Moffat was a great writer, not so great when he's also producing.


Eccleston was my favourite, followed by McCoy, however Matt Smith's Van Gogh episode was immaculate.
 
2012-11-24 01:40:44 AM

dyhchong: t3knomanser: KawaiiNot: Eccleston sucked.

It's tragic when it happens to someone you know.

I'll grant this for Tennant: he brought consistency to inconsistent script-writing. Of course, it was consistently hammy, but it was consistent. Tennant's rage-face was also consistently funny, which probably wasn't appropriate, but there it was.

While overall, I prefer the Smith era, I will grant that the script quality has mostly declined. Smith has yet to get a "Blink" or "Girl in the Fireplace", which goes to show: RTD was a terrible writer, but a great producer. Moffat was a great writer, not so great when he's also producing.

Eccleston was my favourite, followed by McCoy, however Matt Smith's Van Gogh episode was immaculate.


McCoy's run was one third great, one third passable, and one third crap.

In fact, you can split it easily among seasons. Season 24 was crap. Between still having Mel around, and stories that might have been fun (Delta and the Bannermen) having a whole episode's worth of material cut from them until they made almost no sense, season 24 sucked. Dragonfire was better than the average story that season, though. And it got rid of Mel!

Season 25 was the passable season. Ace was being developed, the stories were better than the previous season, but the show still had a ways to go.

Season 26 was damn good. They finally seemed like they had something to write about, McCoy was firing on all cylinders as The Doctor, they introduced, or at least played up, the manipulative angry old man aspect of the character that would work so well for post-reboot Doctors, and Ace became the first modern companion by not only doing something more than screaming, but by being given something to do in the shows and being given a backstory and characterization.
 
2012-11-24 01:42:54 AM

FirstNationalBastard: LargeCanine: StopLurkListen: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

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Why is she a popular companion?

Good question. I thought she was overwrought and whiny

Overwrought and Whiny? Donna?

You've got the wrong redhead for "overwrought and whiny". I believe you were thinking of this one...

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KawaiiNot: Smith sorta comes off like he's trying to copy Tennant but throwing in a pinch of prudish grandma judgement. STILL easier to watch then Eccleston.

As I've said before, Smith hasn't really been given much to work with, since he's been starring in The Amy Pond Show for the last two seasons, and all his character has been tasked to do is FIND AMY HELP AMY LOVE AMY MISS AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY. Now that his stretch on that show is over with, and he's back to starring on Doctor Who, maybe we'll see what his Doctor can really be like.


Why the hell are you getting Rose mixed up with Amy.?

Tennant was nothing but Rose this, and Rose that!

In fact Davies admitted that his Doctor was all about relationships: Rose was the love who healed the Doctor but ended up with a "better" version of him. Martha was the love who should have been treated better. Donna was all about the friendship.

Amy actually is a lot like Donna-she was always was a great friend. Rory, Amy and Matt Smith Doctor was always the Three Amigos. The whole point of "Amy's Choice" was to make the viewers know that Amy and Rory were in love with each other...and was't going to be like the Rose/Martha and who ever else was co-staring with Tennant at the time....
 
2012-11-24 01:47:56 AM

Darth_Lukecash: LargeCanine: Zombie DJ: LargeCanine: StopLurkListen: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

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Why is she a popular companion?

Good question. I thought she was overwrought and whiny

Because she wasn't there to look good and bat her eyes.
She didn't take any crap and held her own.
She wasn't a "yes man" so to speak.

That was not my impression of the charactor, but I respect the PoV.

Her story arc was the most tragic, actually. When she was introduced-she was a selfish, ignorant, boisterous woman. By the end of her arc, she had become selfless, learned and softened a bit. She also had the joy of becoming as smart as the Doctor...and felt like she could be his pal and be a true partner in their endeavors....

When the doctor had to remove all memory of their trips to save her life, she was begging him not to take everything she gained away. Doctor Donna would have honestly died at the top, than reduced back being that small, ignorant woman again.


Hmmm.... interesting. I don't watch Dr Who consistantly. Its likely the Donna I know is the earlier version you describe.
 
2012-11-24 01:50:34 AM

StopLurkListen: Zombie DJ: LargeCanine: StopLurkListen: JosephFinn: Seriously, folks, we're forgetting the best Companion?

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 729x530]

Why is she a popular companion?

Good question. I thought she was overwrought and whiny

Because she wasn't there to look good and bat her eyes.
She didn't take any crap and held her own.
She wasn't a "yes man" so to speak.

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That entire speech is awesome.
 
2012-11-24 01:56:49 AM

LargeCanine: Hmmm.... interesting. I don't watch Dr Who consistantly. Its likely the Donna I know is the earlier version you describe.


It's not like the old days- Doctor Who has story arcs and actual character growth. One thing I will hand to Davies, was that his stories could stand alone, and generally did lead up to a big End Of Season story...Which he really screwed up 99% of the time with "God In The Machine" style scripting.

Moffat really had paid attention to the time aspect and story arcs. In the first two seasons, you missed an episode-you missed an important story element. This season, Moffat is going through more single story episodes. But knowing him, he's laying down groundwork for the 50th anniversary next year.
 
2012-11-24 02:14:15 AM

LargeCanine: Hmmm.... interesting. I don't watch Dr Who consistantly. Its likely the Donna I know is the earlier version you describe.


Yeah, odds are, you saw the Christmas episode between season 2 and 3 where Donna was the "runaway bride" who appeared in the TARDIS. And she was a total harpie shrew biatch.

Of course, her one outing with the Doctor changed her, so that by the time we met up with her again in S4, she was a bit more humble, and wanting to get back what she had in her one TARDIS trip.

...and then the rest of the character growth in season 4 followed.

/Oh, and speaking of S4... BEST. MONSTERS. EVER

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2012-11-24 02:33:02 AM

KawaiiNot:
Eccleston sucked.


Eccleston, or at least his run as doctor, doesn't get enough credit. There's the talking points about how the show coming back hinged on him, but one of my favorite episodes of the series (granted I've only seen new Who) is The Empty Child. Captain Jack makes his first appearance, and it also was a surprisingly terrifying episode.
 
2012-11-24 03:35:41 AM

Oysterman: KawaiiNot:
Eccleston sucked.

Eccleston, or at least his run as doctor, doesn't get enough credit. There's the talking points about how the show coming back hinged on him, but one of my favorite episodes of the series (granted I've only seen new Who) is The Empty Child. Captain Jack makes his first appearance, and it also was a surprisingly terrifying episode.


The Empty Child raised the bar for everyone and set the tone for the rest of the series.

The last time I saw something that genuinely scared me on TV was The Pigeons From Hell episode from the old Thriller Series.
 
2012-11-24 03:54:46 AM
speaking as someone who's watched Dr. Who since the 80s thanks to PBS, but not consistently(as in, if i clicked on the channel and it was playing, I'd watch), I've loved the last three seasons.

I mean, I've seen the series get better with each season since the reboot, but the last two or three I've absolutely loved. Probably the best part for me is how you can watch each episode as a pretty much stand alone episode(with a couple of "wonder what that was about moments), or as part of the series as a whole. but whatever way you watch it, it's still a blast.
 
2012-11-24 03:59:33 AM

log_jammin: speaking as someone who's watched Dr. Who since the 80s thanks to PBS, but not consistently(as in, if i clicked on the channel and it was playing, I'd watch), I've loved the last three seasons.

I mean, I've seen the series get better with each season since the reboot, but the last two or three I've absolutely loved. Probably the best part for me is how you can watch each episode as a pretty much stand alone episode(with a couple of "wonder what that was about moments), or as part of the series as a whole. but whatever way you watch it, it's still a blast.


oh my god. after rereading that, I completely sound like a basement dweller.
 
2012-11-24 07:18:28 AM

FirstNationalBastard: As I've said before, Smith hasn't really been given much to work with, since he's been starring in The Amy Pond Show for the last two seasons, and all his character has been tasked to do is FIND AMY HELP AMY LOVE AMY MISS AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY. Now that his stretch on that show is over with, and he's back to starring on Doctor Who, maybe we'll see what his Doctor can really be like.


So much THIS.

I cheered when I saw the gravestone with her name on it. No more badly acted angry scottish redhead. Can`t wait for the smart brunette to join. Hopefully there will be more story than `amy loves rory` in the next season...
 
2012-11-24 08:38:25 AM

Jackpot777: I see I'm the first to give Mister Brush some appreciation.

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/so British, he sh*ts the Queen.


Boom boom!
 
2012-11-24 10:16:15 AM
My 14 year old son has discovered Dr. Who via net flix. He loooooooves it. I have yet to ever see an episode.
 
2012-11-24 07:53:58 PM

Shirley Ujest: My 14 year old son has discovered Dr. Who via net flix. He loooooooves it. I have yet to ever see an episode.


Start with the episode "Blink".
 
2012-11-24 08:31:24 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Ace became the first modern companion by not only doing something more than screaming, but by being given something to do in the shows and being given a backstory and characterization.


That is kind of funny, I just watched 100,000 BC (the only First Doctor serial I have seen), where for the most part it is the Doctor being the whiny one while the companions generally took charge.
 
2012-11-24 08:33:52 PM

Coelacanth: Shirley Ujest: My 14 year old son has discovered Dr. Who via net flix. He loooooooves it. I have yet to ever see an episode.

Start with the episode "Blink".


No. Don't. That is the worst advice you can give to an aspiring Whovian. Start with Rose and jump to Dalek. Then The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances. Still interested? Bad Wolf and The Parting of the Ways. Then do The Christmas Invasion and follow in order.
 
2012-11-24 09:44:37 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Vengeance on Varos was a sampling of what his Doctor could do with a decent script.


This is the second time I've seen Varos mentioned on Fark. So I managed to, erm, find a copy. Really terrific, and the effects aren't even that horrendously cheesy either.
 
2012-11-25 12:20:24 PM

jonnyh: FirstNationalBastard: Vengeance on Varos was a sampling of what his Doctor could do with a decent script.

This is the second time I've seen Varos mentioned on Fark. So I managed to, erm, find a copy. Really terrific, and the effects aren't even that horrendously cheesy either.


The sad part is, that was the episode that pretty much killed Colin Baker's run as the Doctor.

The complaints about the violence in the episode gave Dickhead BBC Controller the ammo to cancel the full length original season 23, put the show he already hated "on hiatus" for 18 months, cut the episode order when it did return, and eventually fire Colin Baker.
 
2012-11-25 02:00:14 PM
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I'll just leave this here.

/Baker is still my favorite.
 
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