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(Huffington Post)   Jim Schwartz: I knew the rule, I threw the challenge flag anyways   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 12
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2012-11-23 01:09:18 PM  
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kukukupo: This is asking your wife "Hey did you cheat on me?" and having her say "You aren't allowed to ask that right now, so I get to cheat on you now no matter what".


Isn't that what women do? "You already think I'm cheating on you so I might as well just do it."
2012-11-23 09:11:34 PM  
1 votes:
The word is discipline.

You can't be a championship team without it. The Lions players don't have it. They won't ever get it because the coach doesn't have it. They won't ever get a coach that has it because Ford can not abide coaches who teach it. The Lions will never be championship contenders while a Ford owns the team. The end.

You know who I feel bad for? I feel bad for N'donkeyKong Suh. Tremendously talented kid who had the potential to become the best defensive player in history. But instead of putting him under a proven championship caliber coach to maximize his potential, they send him to Detroit. He has now developed all the worst habits imagineable, habits that will take years of intense coaching by someone who actually knows what they are doing to break. And that just isn't going to happen. Like the Lions do with so many other really talented football players, he has been effectively ruined. He will never be in a Superbowl. He will never hold an NFL record. He won't even be a footnote. It is a shame.
2012-11-23 06:04:31 PM  
1 votes:
Although I think this rule is asinine, and there is no way the right call should not be allowed to be made, people need to stop saying the refs blew this call. The RULE blew the call. The refs got it right in regards to the rule book, its just an unfortunate rule. Review the play, charge the coach with a time out and some yardage and call it a farking day.
2012-11-23 02:28:38 PM  
1 votes:
Here's how you fix it:

If a coach throws an otherwise legal challenge flag on a play subject to official review, the review proceeds as requested, but the coach's team is charged as though they had lost the challenge even if the ruling on the field is overturned. The bad call is corrected, fans point and laugh at the stupid coach for wasting a challenge and a timeout, everyone wins.
2012-11-23 01:23:08 PM  
1 votes:

jaylectricity: Shadow Blasko: Wow. Thats just... Weird.

It wasn't wrong when he did it, but it was wrong before the play ended, thus wrong.

This is why I don't bet on sports. That just makes no sense to me.

I suppose when taken in the context of "A play is a play, from snap to whistle" then it makes sense, but since the challenge seemed to me to be "Hey! There should have been a whistle here, WAY back here!" then the technicalities of the ruling prevent the challenge from being an effective tool.

Maybe you should try grasping the sport of football before you try tackling the intricacies of the challenge rules.


See this?

This is why people don't ask questions. Even legitimate ones.
2012-11-23 12:41:18 PM  
1 votes:
Jim Schwartz is a hotheaded butthead and his players' actions on and off the field reflect that.

Look at his record since the team got off to a 5-0 start last year. It's as shiatty as he is.
2012-11-23 12:28:52 PM  
1 votes:
Also, if you're the ball carrier, why wouldn't you just run it into the end zone every play? Just keep going, even if tackled, get up and run into the end zone. Apparently there are refs out there stupid enough to reward you.
2012-11-23 12:07:51 PM  
1 votes:

Ed_Severson: Here's the unintended stupid side of that rule: if, instead of Detroit, it had been Houston that threw the challenge flag -- for no reason, admittedly -- the review would have been negated, and hey, free touchdown.

At some point, this will happen.


Nothing you just said is true.
2012-11-23 12:05:28 PM  
1 votes:

Ed_Severson: Here's the unintended stupid side of that rule: if, instead of Detroit, it had been Houston that threw the challenge flag -- for no reason, admittedly -- the review would have been negated, and hey, free touchdown.


Wrong. The Texans could not benefit from a review. They already had a touchdown ruled in their favor. Therefore, them throwing the flag would not have invoked this rule.
2012-11-23 11:59:06 AM  
1 votes:

VvonderJesus: Take out the part where the play can't be challenged, but add in the coach loses that challenge (if that isn't already in the rules)


Let's try that again. The play can still be reviewed after an inappropriate challenge flag, but the coach loses a challenge for the game even if the play is overturned. The 15 yard penalty remains.
2012-11-23 11:57:40 AM  
1 votes:
Take out the part where the play can't be challenged, but add in the coach loses that challenge (if that isn't already in the rules)
2012-11-23 11:35:33 AM  
1 votes:

jaylectricity: I thought he manned up pretty well. Just said he was fired up, didn't even wait for the play to be over before he pulled the challenge flag out.

A lot of people in the Fark football thread were complaining (and a lot of them got the interpretation of the rule completely wrong) but essentially the rule is to keep coaches from being jackasses. It's like saying, "Listen, this is going to be automatically reviewed, so shut your yap and let the process begin. Stop trying to be an attention whore."

If you can't follow that simple rule, you'll lose your right to due process.


I understand why the rule was put into place, but I do believe the no review part is pretty harsh. I'd like to see that part changed. Keep the penalty yards, though. That should be enough of a deterrent.
 
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