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(The Sun)   Woman in labor for only 16 minutes with her 16th child, thinks she can shave some time off on number 17   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 87
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2012-11-23 11:59:53 AM

Bondith: Son of Thunder:

So, yes, I have a dislike of large families. There is no argument you can make to show that it's beneficial for anyone.


They could be useful donors for a rare blood type. Or a widespread and fantastic source of fresh organs for transplant later in your life. Or raise them as a small army of slaves. Who needs a TV remote when you have 16 children plus the inevitable grandchildren?

/in all seriousness I am 40 years old, never married, no kids and still shocked when I hear of grandparents younger than me such as in TFA. But they always look much older than I do, so there.
 
2012-11-23 12:00:15 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: ConConHead: I love how they emphasize the family is NOT on public support.

Not once but twice...And seeing as they are not, who the fark are any of us to criticize them?


Me. Way too many kids in an over populated world.
 
2012-11-23 12:01:07 PM

jtown: My first direct relative in the colonies had something like 14 kids. Apparently there wasn't a heck of a lot to do for entertainment back in the 1600s.



My several greats-grandfather had 17 kids. I think some families had a lot of kids due to infant and child mortality back then. One or two die, you had a few more on standby.

/joke was on Gramps, all 17 lived to adulthood
 
2012-11-23 12:05:02 PM
The mailman been busy
 
2012-11-23 12:05:19 PM
After six kids, most women don't need a midwife as much as someone with a catcher's mitt.
 
2012-11-23 12:12:16 PM
Meh, my daughter was born quciker. While checking her in, the nurse looked at her took her upstairs, I signed one thing while the rest was read, walk, hop on elevator, sign, finally get up to my wife's room, nurse walks in checks my wife, says she'll get the doc, I look, and my daughter's head is halfway out. Doc runs in, 3, 4 pushes later, snip, and I'm handing my daughter to my wife. Total time of labor from when we walked into ER to that moment is officially 7 minutes.

/CSB
//no longer married
///daughter is a beautiful young woman
 
2012-11-23 12:12:57 PM
Hey...we're not paying for them or taking care of them. So do not care. Let them have as many kids as they want.
 
2012-11-23 12:13:29 PM

Surpheon: aagrajag: At this point in history, any child after the second should require the parents to off themselves at 50.

Blah blah blah. Brainless Methusians are brainless. Empower women with equal rights, and lift populations out of poverty and overpopulation completely goes away. For each couple who chose to invest their time in a brood, there are three who take up travel/fancy cars/dancing horse/hipsterism/etc as their hobby. The US is now below replacement birthrate, which leaves the only first world nation actually breaking even on population growth France (I think, unless they've lagged recently). Populations that don't live in shiatholes naturally limit their population growth, that's documented fact. And it doesn't take any of your I-have-to-be-at-the-gym-in-26-minutes assholism to make happen.


Malthusian, and it doesn't even relate to what aagrajag is saying.

Also, know how I know you're talking out your asshole?
 
2012-11-23 12:28:08 PM
Personally, I would concede genetic superiority to anyone who can raise that big of a family off of welfare and stay sane. I think it's better when capable people reproduce,
 
2012-11-23 12:48:25 PM
By the seventeenth, I figure the kid will crawl out on its own.
 
2012-11-23 12:50:46 PM
In other local news, the village midwife has purchased a hockey net.
 
2012-11-23 12:52:00 PM
Are they on benefits?

/dnrtfa
 
2012-11-23 01:19:32 PM
I only counted 15. Did they sell one off for medical research?
 
2012-11-23 01:35:52 PM
The parents look like brother and sister. Yeesh.
 
2012-11-23 01:53:18 PM
Ok, hotdog in hallway, railway tunnel, mountainous cavern, wizard sleeve, clown car.

We`re done here. Let the rant commence.

Can I start by saying that people who have this many children are just disgusting. They must have some form of mental illness.
 
2012-11-23 02:00:10 PM

Professor Pickles: Surpheon: aagrajag: At this point in history, any child after the second should require the parents to off themselves at 50.

Blah blah blah. Brainless Methusians are brainless. Empower women with equal rights, and lift populations out of poverty and overpopulation completely goes away. For each couple who chose to invest their time in a brood, there are three who take up travel/fancy cars/dancing horse/hipsterism/etc as their hobby. The US is now below replacement birthrate, which leaves the only first world nation actually breaking even on population growth France (I think, unless they've lagged recently). Populations that don't live in shiatholes naturally limit their population growth, that's documented fact. And it doesn't take any of your I-have-to-be-at-the-gym-in-26-minutes assholism to make happen.

Malthusian, and it doesn't even relate to what aagrajag is saying.

Also, know how I know you're talking out your asshole?


From that link:

"2.06 children born/woman (2011 est.)"

Just below the 2.1 replacement birth rate. And somehow I don't think it went up this past year.
 
2012-11-23 03:05:48 PM

aagrajag: Dancin_In_Anson: ConConHead: I love how they emphasize the family is NOT on public support.

Not once but twice...And seeing as they are not, who the fark are any of us to criticize them?

One of seven billion people on a planet with dwindling natural resources and arable land?

At this point in history, any child after the second should require the parents to off themselves at 50. Make some room for those of us who don't reproduce like a virus.


You chose to give up your genetic inheiritance. Just think of all the hundreds of generations of stuggle, defeat and triumph stretching back to the dawn of human history, just so you could be born --- only for you to quit the game of the human race because you are too snooty to fulfill your natural biological destiny.

And you feel you are in the superiour position when it comes to judging the life decisions of others...
 
2012-11-23 03:07:48 PM

kvinesknows: Katchaa: kvinesknows

plus.. actually pretty awesome . and she is pretty hot for a lady that age.

Dude - she's 37. That ain't old.

I know. But she aint 20 either. and she is a pretty damn good looking 37 year old regular person


No, she isn't. She's not even 'British pretty'. Her face looks like it was sculpted out of a cube of silly putty.
 
2012-11-23 03:10:30 PM

ObscureNameHere: aagrajag: Dancin_In_Anson: ConConHead: I love how they emphasize the family is NOT on public support.

Not once but twice...And seeing as they are not, who the fark are any of us to criticize them?

One of seven billion people on a planet with dwindling natural resources and arable land?

At this point in history, any child after the second should require the parents to off themselves at 50. Make some room for those of us who don't reproduce like a virus.

You chose to give up your genetic inheiritance. Just think of all the hundreds of generations of stuggle, defeat and triumph stretching back to the dawn of human history, just so you could be born --- only for you to quit the game of the human race because you are too snooty to fulfill your natural biological destiny.

And you feel you are in the superiour position when it comes to judging the life decisions of others...


There's more to me than my gametes. I have much more to offer the world than a few mL of opaque white genetic material. I have other ways of leaving a legacy than offspring.
 
2012-11-23 03:17:39 PM

Bondith: ObscureNameHere: aagrajag: Dancin_In_Anson: ConConHead: I love how they emphasize the family is NOT on public support.

Not once but twice...And seeing as they are not, who the fark are any of us to criticize them?

One of seven billion people on a planet with dwindling natural resources and arable land?

At this point in history, any child after the second should require the parents to off themselves at 50. Make some room for those of us who don't reproduce like a virus.

You chose to give up your genetic inheiritance. Just think of all the hundreds of generations of stuggle, defeat and triumph stretching back to the dawn of human history, just so you could be born --- only for you to quit the game of the human race because you are too snooty to fulfill your natural biological destiny.

And you feel you are in the superiour position when it comes to judging the life decisions of others...

There's more to me than my gametes. I have much more to offer the world than a few mL of opaque white genetic material. I have other ways of leaving a legacy than offspring.


From a species point-of-view, you and those like you are quitters of the highest caliber.

You are deliberately squandering your genetic inheiritance because you have decided that you know better than the 2 million years of your ancestors that struggled and died to end up with the cell combination that became you. An amazing cellular odessy that will apparently -- after travelling so long a road -- end with your decision to not reproduce.

But hey, you will likely have a few more bucks to spend than us 'breeders', so I guess you are cool after all.
 
2012-11-23 03:29:08 PM
her feet must be huge too.
 
2012-11-23 03:31:16 PM

TheGreenMonkey: my daughter was born quciker

is there a foundation for quciker? sounds horrible!

 
2012-11-23 03:44:54 PM

ObscureNameHere: Bondith: ObscureNameHere: aagrajag: Dancin_In_Anson: ConConHead: I love how they emphasize the family is NOT on public support.

Not once but twice...And seeing as they are not, who the fark are any of us to criticize them?

One of seven billion people on a planet with dwindling natural resources and arable land?

At this point in history, any child after the second should require the parents to off themselves at 50. Make some room for those of us who don't reproduce like a virus.

You chose to give up your genetic inheiritance. Just think of all the hundreds of generations of stuggle, defeat and triumph stretching back to the dawn of human history, just so you could be born --- only for you to quit the game of the human race because you are too snooty to fulfill your natural biological destiny.

And you feel you are in the superiour position when it comes to judging the life decisions of others...

There's more to me than my gametes. I have much more to offer the world than a few mL of opaque white genetic material. I have other ways of leaving a legacy than offspring.

From a species point-of-view, you and those like you are quitters of the highest caliber.

You are deliberately squandering your genetic inheiritance because you have decided that you know better than the 2 million years of your ancestors that struggled and died to end up with the cell combination that became you. An amazing cellular odessy that will apparently -- after travelling so long a road -- end with your decision to not reproduce.

But hey, you will likely have a few more bucks to spend than us 'breeders', so I guess you are cool after all.


If you're really so obsessed with my life choices, I can swing by your house with a cup and a turkey baster, and you can squirt it in whichever uterus you feel would be the best receptable.
 
2012-11-23 03:54:55 PM

Bondith: If you're really so obsessed with my life choices, I can swing by your house with a cup and a turkey baster, and you can squirt it in whichever uterus you feel would be the best receptable.


I am not obsessed with your choices. You chose to quit the game of the human race. Bra-vo.

It is just disingenious that those of a similar temperment to yours get so outraged at the rest of the planet doing what -- literally-- comes naturally.

Since you have no true inclination to reproduce, species-wise we are better off without your genetic 'quitter' input.
 
2012-11-23 03:58:45 PM

ObscureNameHere: kvinesknows: Katchaa: kvinesknows

plus.. actually pretty awesome . and she is pretty hot for a lady that age.

Dude - she's 37. That ain't old.

I know. But she aint 20 either. and she is a pretty damn good looking 37 year old regular person

No, she isn't. She's not even 'British pretty'. Her face looks like it was sculpted out of a cube of silly putty.


you would prefer serious putty?
 
2012-11-23 04:02:48 PM

ObscureNameHere: Bondith: ObscureNameHere: aagrajag: Dancin_In_Anson: ConConHead: I love how they emphasize the family is NOT on public support.

Not once but twice...And seeing as they are not, who the fark are any of us to criticize them?

One of seven billion people on a planet with dwindling natural resources and arable land?

At this point in history, any child after the second should require the parents to off themselves at 50. Make some room for those of us who don't reproduce like a virus.

You chose to give up your genetic inheiritance. Just think of all the hundreds of generations of stuggle, defeat and triumph stretching back to the dawn of human history, just so you could be born --- only for you to quit the game of the human race because you are too snooty to fulfill your natural biological destiny.

And you feel you are in the superiour position when it comes to judging the life decisions of others...

There's more to me than my gametes. I have much more to offer the world than a few mL of opaque white genetic material. I have other ways of leaving a legacy than offspring.

From a species point-of-view, you and those like you are quitters of the highest caliber.

You are deliberately squandering your genetic inheiritance because you have decided that you know better than the 2 million years of your ancestors that struggled and died to end up with the cell combination that became you. An amazing cellular odessy that will apparently -- after travelling so long a road -- end with your decision to not reproduce.

But hey, you will likely have a few more bucks to spend than us 'breeders', so I guess you are cool after all.


How many kids do you have?

Considering I personally don't have the extra $13,000 per year (average) to raise a kid, I'll take sleeping in on weekends and enjoying my life over fulfilling some individualistic 'odessy' by adding another mouth to the 7+ billion out there.
 
2012-11-23 04:05:13 PM

ObscureNameHere: Bondith: If you're really so obsessed with my life choices, I can swing by your house with a cup and a turkey baster, and you can squirt it in whichever uterus you feel would be the best receptable.

I am not obsessed with your choices. You chose to quit the game of the human race. Bra-vo.

It is just disingenious that those of a similar temperment to yours get so outraged at the rest of the planet doing what -- literally-- comes naturally.

Since you have no true inclination to reproduce, species-wise we are better off without your genetic 'quitter' input.


Species don't go extinct because they don't reproduce, they go extinct because they fail to adapt. If we don't adapt to the realities of population pressures and finite resources, we will run smack into the natural consequences of that: diebacks, ecological damage, and possibly extinction in the extreme case.

Since we evolved these brains, why not use them to try and avoid those consequences, instead of "naturally" procreating. The "natural" solution isn't pretty.

And on a side note...

I'm reposting this from your profile, 'cause I thought it was cool.

Barakku 2008-11-23 05:50:24 PM
One final thing I love about fark-all but the hardest, most stubborn trolls argument opponents has their soft side. Even many called blatantly "trolls" to their face crack a joke or post stating that they likedd someone else's joke. People I'll yell at in one thread disagreeing with their stance on some stupid bullshiat I'll have a laugh with in another thread, because no matter how mean any one post may make us look, we're all human and most of us are here to have fun, and we do.

All that said...I love you guys.

/I think I have something in my eye
//DIAF while I get it out


/makes mental note not to hold this against you in other threads
 
2012-11-23 04:07:51 PM

Bondith: Son of Thunder: [Scans thread]
Yup. Called it.
Nothing brings out the haters 'round these parts like someone having lots of babies.

16 kids isn't a family, it's a litter. The only reason to have such a large brood is if you expect most of them to die before adulthood. This isn't the Middle Ages. In the Western world, modern medical care has brought the infant mortality rate way, way, way down. With 7 billion people on the planet, unfettered breeding is irresponsible and a waste of resources. You have to clothe and feed and educate all those kids. How much attention does each one get? I don't know if it's even possible for two people to care for so many offspring, which means the older kids have to shoulder the burdens of parenthood for their siblings.

So, yes, I have a dislike of large families. There is no argument you can make to show that it's beneficial for anyone.


Well, when daddy gets drunk and starts whooping asses he'll probably get tired before beating on them all...so with that many kids it would lessen the chance of getting a drunken daddy beating. I would consider that somewhat beneficial.
 
2012-11-23 04:13:49 PM

Mirrorz: Ohh, get that, would you, Deirdre?

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/closest pic i could find


Here ya go:

i759.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-23 04:55:29 PM
ObscureNameHere:

You seem really upset that people can choose to give up reproducing when you can't even lose your virginity in the first place.
 
2012-11-23 05:06:28 PM

Aikidogamer: At this point, isn't it more like a water slide and less like a vagina?


It's a superhighway!
 
2012-11-23 07:11:29 PM

Professor Pickles: Also, know how I know you're talking out your asshole?


Not really. Your cite entirely supports my assertions.
"The total fertility rate in the United States estimated for 2011 is 1.89 children per woman, which is below the replacement fertility rate of approximately 2.1.[10] "

France is also below replacement rate. So every first world nation on Earth has a shrinking domestic population. We need to improve the shiatholes so they can move to the same track.
 
2012-11-23 09:17:24 PM
A couple of those kids look like younger versions of Mr. Bean
 
2012-11-23 09:18:22 PM

Surpheon: Professor Pickles: Also, know how I know you're talking out your asshole?

Not really. Your cite entirely supports my assertions.
"The total fertility rate in the United States estimated for 2011 is 1.89 children per woman, which is below the replacement fertility rate of approximately 2.1.[10] "

France is also below replacement rate. So every first world nation on Earth has a shrinking domestic population. We need to improve the shiatholes so they can move to the same track.


Chalk it up to a misunderstanding on my part. Also I can't tell if you're for the population decreasing or not...
 
2012-11-23 10:49:32 PM
Honestly - if she is not dependent on welfare ... more power to her!
 
2012-11-23 11:17:22 PM

Professor Pickles: Also I can't tell if you're for the population decreasing or not...


I am for the population decreasing, but that can and is achieved while still allowing folks to have a half dozen kids if they want. If you empower women and move to a modern society (urbanization, national retirement safety net, and universal education primarily), the people who have a half dozen kids are more than balanced out by the folks who have none. There is no need to demonize large families, if anything they encourage even more folks to have zero kids at all.

I don't want a population crash. A simple leveling and slow glide down does just fine. And that's what the majority of first world countries are doing (a minority are indeed crashing and will pay for it unless they open up to massive immigration).
 
2012-11-26 08:42:04 PM

fluffy2097: ObscureNameHere:

You seem really upset that people can choose to give up reproducing when you can't even lose your virginity in the first place.


Really? I must inform my wife that despite two kids I am virgin. Thanks for the heads-up.
 
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