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(CNN)   Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-eal American) to Grover Norquist: You've had your 20-year run, asshat, now go the fark away   (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 181
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2012-11-23 08:56:20 AM
 
2012-11-23 08:56:48 AM
Chambliss is now like Tobias Fünke in Doubtfire drag. "When I'm feeling down, I smile and stab at Norqiist, smile and stab at Norquist..."
 
2012-11-23 08:57:31 AM

kregh99: Kinda shows you what the word "pledging" means to Republicans.

Contract with America
Read my lips
No taxes for any reason

etc.

Republicans: They all suck. Their policies suck. Their attitude sucks. They can't even keep a promise to themselves let alone anyone else.


Yeah. Why don't they understand that signing Grover's pledge is like a lifetime commitment, like wedding vows? It's not like situations ever change.
 
2012-11-23 08:58:15 AM
He might be a piece of shiat but isn't he the first actual Senator to actually say no to that prick Norquist after already signing it?
I hope that is the first piece missing on the house of cards that is Norquist's pledge. Now we just need a few more to follow before the GOP leadership pushes that card back in.
 
2012-11-23 08:59:06 AM
Who are these armies of voters at Grover Norquist's beck & call who will savagely devour any candidate that Grover angrily points his finger at? Do they know that they are being used as tools for the financial gain of a trust fund brat? Are they really so robotic that they let some neckbeardy sociopath make decisions for them?
 
2012-11-23 09:00:52 AM

SevenizGud: cut spending maybe? just a thought


We've gone past bone long ago and are now scooping out the marrow.
 
2012-11-23 09:02:45 AM

TV's Vinnie: Who are these armies of voters at Grover Norquist's beck & call who will savagely devour any candidate that Grover angrily points his finger at? Do they know that they are being used as tools for the financial gain of a trust fund brat? Are they really so robotic that they let some neckbeardy sociopath make decisions for them?


A) Morons
B) No
C) yes
 
2012-11-23 09:03:14 AM

TV's Vinnie: Who are these armies of voters at Grover Norquist's beck & call who will savagely devour any candidate that Grover angrily points his finger at? Do they know that they are being used as tools for the financial gain of a trust fund brat? Are they really so robotic that they let some neckbeardy sociopath make decisions for them?


Are... are you actually asking this question? You have watched the news in the last ix years or so, right? These people believe what they're told by Fox News, their preacher of choice (so long as it's about Jesus), and that's all.
 
2012-11-23 09:04:13 AM
That was supposed to be six years, not ix years. Don't know why auto correct didn't catch THAT.
 
Boe
2012-11-23 09:05:58 AM

enry: Bucky Katt: Chambliss is a chickenhawk so swift boated a real hero. F*ck him.

^^^ This


Double this. He's just accurately reading the political tea leaves and adjusting his position accordingly. if it was still politically expedient, he'd still be singing the praises of that waste of oxygen.
 
2012-11-23 09:08:44 AM

Bucky Katt: Chambliss is a chickenhawk so swift boated a real hero. F*ck him.


True, but dickheads like him hold sway in the party, so if he get's rid of grover, at least he's doing something right for once.
 
2012-11-23 09:19:08 AM
Bucky Katt: Chambliss is a chickenhawk so swift boated a real hero. F*ck him.

He does whatever it takes to take/retain power.
 
2012-11-23 09:20:31 AM
There is talk of Karen Handel going after Chambliss in the primary. When I'm actually rooting for him winning there is something wrong with the world. I'm aware we're going to elect a Republican senator and I'd rather it be Chabliss. Ugh, I just made myself sick.
 
2012-11-23 09:20:41 AM
Saxby? You mean the guy who said that Georgia would be safer if every Muslim was arrested? The guy who avoided going to Vietnam on an injury and then runs a political ad saying his opponent (who had served in Vietnam) was linked to terrorists?

Yeah, no, that guy isn't a hero, subs.
 
2012-11-23 09:22:42 AM

BlueSouth: There is talk of Karen Handel going after Chambliss in the primary. When I'm actually rooting for him winning there is something wrong with the world. I'm aware we're going to elect a Republican senator and I'd rather it be Chabliss. Ugh, I just made myself sick.


To be clear I'm voting for anyone else in the general, but might register Republican so I can vote against Handel in the primary.
 
2012-11-23 09:24:00 AM
It used to be that senators could get away with this. He is at least taking an unpopular position because it is the right thing. Ga. senators can do that from time to time.
 
2012-11-23 09:24:25 AM
max needs to run again....saxby is a true piece of chickenhawk trash
 
2012-11-23 09:26:04 AM

Shirley Ujest: What kind of name is " Saxby"?


Bert Saxby? Tell him he's fired!
 
2012-11-23 09:27:00 AM
At least Chambliss can admit to himself that the republican defeat was fatal to the republican platform.
Which means Norquist is a zombie.
 
2012-11-23 09:27:06 AM
oh also, from Wiki:

Cleland then served in the United States Army during the Vietnam War, attaining the rank of Captain. He was awarded the Silver Star and the Bronze Star for valorous action in combat, including during the Battle of Khe Sanh on April 4, 1968.
On April 8, 1968, Captain Cleland was the Battalion Signal Officer for the 2nd Battalion, 12th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division during the Battle of Khe Sanh.[3]


Fark Chambliss in the ass with a broken Coke bottle. And Fark Norquist too, I dont get why idiots listen to him, but they are idiots.
 
2012-11-23 09:31:19 AM
What the fark kind of name is Saxby?
 
2012-11-23 09:34:42 AM

mksmith: I don't what he might have done on any specific day, a loathsome creep like Chambliss should NEVER be given the "Hero" tag. Not Ever. Period.


What if he saved a bus full of nuns from a taliban re-education camp for homosexual terrorists?
 
2012-11-23 09:35:54 AM

Jaws_Victim: mksmith: I don't what he might have done on any specific day, a loathsome creep like Chambliss should NEVER be given the "Hero" tag. Not Ever. Period.

What if he saved a bus full of nuns from a taliban re-education camp for homosexual terrorists?


"Scumbag performs heroic act; details at 11!"
 
2012-11-23 09:36:48 AM

Dunnski: randomjsa: Now we just need GOP leadership to give him a severe talking to and threaten him.

You know, the way the Obama administration does to any Democrat going against the party line on anything at any time.

Citation needed. Actually, several needed, since it happens every time.


I can provide one off the top of my head - when they reigned in Corey Booker for having the audacity to suggest that maybe Bain Capital isnt evil.
 
2012-11-23 09:37:17 AM
This isn't going to change the fact that he'll fight any tax increases on the 1%.

He just doesn't want to be seen as taking orders from Norquist.
 
2012-11-23 09:39:16 AM
Maybe Grover and the Taxed Enough Already party can eliminate this fine senator in the primary with an extremist and a moderate progressive in independent's clothing can win the general.

Being Georgia, my cunning plan would backfire and the Senate would get another teatarded extremist .
 
2012-11-23 09:43:30 AM

Jjaro: Dunnski: randomjsa: Now we just need GOP leadership to give him a severe talking to and threaten him.

You know, the way the Obama administration does to any Democrat going against the party line on anything at any time.

Citation needed. Actually, several needed, since it happens every time.

I can provide one off the top of my head - when they reigned in Corey Booker for having the audacity to suggest that maybe Bain Capital isnt evil.



Citations require evidence, not your say-so.

Provide the link. A credible one.
 
2012-11-23 09:43:55 AM

hinten: Why voters allow their representatives to sign contracts/pledges that they disagree with is beyond anyone's understanding.


If voters allow people to do that, then a lot of basic things are beyond their understanding. Like magnets, for example.
 
2012-11-23 09:45:02 AM

nobodyUwannaknow: Being Georgia, my cunning plan would backfire and the Senate would get another teatarded extremist .


Whoever gets the (R) next to their name on the ballot is getting the seat. That's just the fact of the matter. You could put Barack Hussein Obama on the ballot as a Republican and he'd win handily. A primary challenge is the only reason for him to fear losing his seat... and if there's a challenge, it's gonna be a Norquist-approved tea-party turd.
 
2012-11-23 09:48:20 AM
The 'debt ceiling,' and Grover Norquist's pledge...two artificial constructs hamstringing America's recovery.

Might as well be leprechauns...they have the same basis in the real world.
 
2012-11-23 09:50:14 AM
fark him and his sleazy ass campaign he ran back in 2002 against Max Cleland. This man should never be considered a hero for anything.
 
2012-11-23 09:53:06 AM
The anti-tax crusader has said he predicts congressional Republicans will stand firm and negotiate a deal that excludes tax hikes.

Guess we'll fall off the fiscal cliff then. I notice that he still talks as though Republicans are running everything, and that Obama will lie down and "compromise" again.

Mr. Obama, the people who voted for you are asking you again--STOP farkING GIVING THEM EVERYTHING THEY WANT.
 
2012-11-23 09:56:14 AM

KWess: The 'debt ceiling,' and Grover Norquist's pledge...two artificial constructs hamstringing America's recovery.

Might as well be leprechauns...they have the same basis in the real world.


Not only are they artificial, they are also based on lies. The 'debt ceiling' is positioned as not increasing spending when it reality it is paying for stuff already spent. The tax pledge is based on the insane notion that higher taxes are bad for the economy.
 
2012-11-23 09:56:19 AM
Has Norquist ever done anything except come up with this mandatory tax pledge?

Like, held any political office? Headed some sort of organization? Been a high-level campaign advisor, even?

/too lazy to wikipedia
 
2012-11-23 10:01:30 AM

mrshowrules: KWess: The 'debt ceiling,' and Grover Norquist's pledge...two artificial constructs hamstringing America's recovery.

Might as well be leprechauns...they have the same basis in the real world.

Not only are they artificial, they are also based on lies. The 'debt ceiling' is positioned as not increasing spending when it reality it is paying for stuff already spent. The tax pledge is based on the insane notion that higher taxes are always bad for the economy.


FTFY. There are definitely situations where cutting taxes can be the right policy.
 
2012-11-23 10:02:29 AM

LiberalWeenie: Has Norquist ever done anything except come up with this mandatory tax pledge?

Like, held any political office? Headed some sort of organization? Been a high-level campaign advisor, even?

/too lazy to wikipedia


Early career

Early in his career, Norquist was executive director of both the National Taxpayers Union and the national College Republicans, holding both positions until 1983. Afterward, he served as Economist and Chief Speechwriter at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce from 1983 to 1984.[15]

Norquist traveled to several war zones to help support anti-Soviet guerrilla armies in the second half of the 1980s. He worked with a support network for Oliver North's efforts with the Nicaraguan Contras and other insurgencies, in addition to promoting U.S. support for groups including Mozambique's RENAMO and Jonas Savimbi's UNITA in Angola and helping to organize anti-Soviet forces in Laos.

Americans for Tax Reform

Norquist is best known for founding Americans for Tax Reform (ATR) in 1985, which he says was done at the request of then-President Ronald Reagan.[16] Referring to Norquist's activities as head of ATR, Steve Kroft, in a 60 Minutes episode that aired on November 20, 2011, claimed that "Norquist has been responsible, more than anyone else, for rewriting the dogma of the Republican Party."[17]

The primary policy goal of Americans for Tax Reform is to reduce government revenues as a percentage of the GDP.[18][19] ATR states that it "opposes all tax increases as a matter of principle."[20] Americans for Tax Reform has supported Taxpayer Bill of Rights (TABOR) legislation[21] and transparency initiatives,[22] while opposing cap-and-trade legislation[23] and Democratic efforts to overhaul health care.[24]

In 1993, Norquist launched his Wednesday Meetings series at ATR headquarters, initially to help fight President Clinton's healthcare plan and eventually becoming one of the most significant institutions in American conservative political organizing.[12] The meetings have been called "a must-attend event for Republican operatives fortunate enough to get an invitation", and "the Grand Central station of the conservative movement."[3]

As a nonprofit organization, Americans for Tax Reform is not required to disclose the identity of its contributors. Critics, such as Sen. Alan Simpson, have asked Norquist to disclose his contributors; he has declined but has said that ATR is financed by direct mail and other grassroots fundraising efforts. According to CBS News, "a significant portion appears to come from wealthy individuals, foundations and corporate interests."
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2012-11-23 10:03:28 AM

LiberalWeenie: Has Norquist ever done anything except come up with this mandatory tax pledge?

Like, held any political office? Headed some sort of organization? Been a high-level campaign advisor, even?

/too lazy to wikipedia


He heads Americans For Tax Reform, or at least he founded the group.

He's one of those Harvard-educated snobs. I also found this gem: "When I became 21, I decided that nobody learned anything about politics after the age of 21." This would explain a great deal.

I like this one, too: "He worked with a support network for Oliver North's efforts with the Nicaraguan Contras and other insurgencies"
 
2012-11-23 10:03:48 AM

LiberalWeenie: Has Norquist ever done anything except come up with this mandatory tax pledge?


Grover Glenn Norquist (born October 19, 1956) is an American lobbyist, conservative activist,[3] and founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

So... essentially, no.
 
2012-11-23 10:04:58 AM

LiberalWeenie: Has Norquist ever done anything except come up with this mandatory tax pledge?

Like, held any political office? Headed some sort of organization? Been a high-level campaign advisor, even?

/too lazy to wikipedia


He's an Ivy League graduate that has primarily been a lobbyist his whole life (i.e., he wouldn't know what a hard day's work would consist of). Also, he co-authored the "Contract with America" with Newt Ginrich.
 
2012-11-23 10:05:44 AM

Kittypie070: Can I drown Grover in a vat of ice cream awready?


KFC gravy would also be an acceptable subsititute.
/get the big containers
 
2012-11-23 10:06:49 AM
Sounds like somebody is facing re-election, lol.

Fark you Saxby.

RINO!

If Grover Norquist is bad for the GOP then I am a Grover Norquist fan.
 
2012-11-23 10:07:43 AM

LiberalWeenie: Has Norquist ever done anything except come up with this mandatory tax pledge?

Like, held any political office? Headed some sort of organization? Been a high-level campaign advisor, even?

/too lazy to wikipedia


Far as I understand it, he's a trust fund kid. His dad was VP of Polaroid, back when it was an actual company.

He went to college, volunteered with Nixon, and got heavy into various LIbertarian groups until he finally started his "American's for Tax Reform" lobbying group.

The rest is history. Stupid, stupid history.
 
2012-11-23 10:09:37 AM
Well, I guess my rough synopsis was unnecessary.
 
2012-11-23 10:10:22 AM

LiberalWeenie: Has Norquist ever done anything except come up with this mandatory tax pledge?

Like, held any political office? Headed some sort of organization? Been a high-level campaign advisor, even?

/too lazy to wikipedia


There are unconfirmed reports that he was class President in the sixth grade.
 
2012-11-23 10:10:53 AM

incendi: LiberalWeenie: Has Norquist ever done anything except come up with this mandatory tax pledge?

Grover Glenn Norquist (born October 19, 1956) is an American lobbyist, conservative activist,[3] and founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

So... essentially, no.


And they say "community organizer" is an unacceptable career move.
 
2012-11-23 10:11:17 AM
I still dislike Chambliss, but when someone decides to do the right thing, I'll give him his due.

Bravo, sir... on this particular issue.
 
2012-11-23 10:12:45 AM
Grover's tear catcher

ak1.ostkcdn.com
 
2012-11-23 10:13:34 AM

Loud_Mouth_Soup: Jjaro: Dunnski: randomjsa: Now we just need GOP leadership to give him a severe talking to and threaten him.

You know, the way the Obama administration does to any Democrat going against the party line on anything at any time.

Citation needed. Actually, several needed, since it happens every time.

I can provide one off the top of my head - when they reigned in Corey Booker for having the audacity to suggest that maybe Bain Capital isnt evil.


Citations require evidence, not your say-so.

Provide the link. A credible one.


It was a pretty big story during the election. So of course you attack me for your lack of awareness. Anyway...

Here's a thinkprogress link for you about the initial comments http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/05/20/487391/newark-mayor-cory- booker-defends-bain-capital-attacks-obama-campaign/?mobile=nc hope thats liberal enough for you.

And here are Washington Post and Huff Po articles about the aftermath

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/david-axelrod-scolds - cory-booker-on-bain-capital/2012/05/21/gIQAQbJwfU_blog.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/14/cory-booker-bain-capital_n_1 7 75427.html
 
2012-11-23 10:14:08 AM

roadkillontheweb: He might be a piece of shiat but isn't he the first actual Senator to actually say no to that prick Norquist after already signing it?
I hope that is the first piece missing on the house of cards that is Norquist's pledge. Now we just need a few more to follow before the GOP leadership pushes that card back in.


I think the GOP needs more than a few. Norquist has the funds to run a primary against one senator. Or three senators. Or 5-10 Congressmen. But if 30 or 40 decide to go against the "pledge" and vote for tax hikes? Let him bankrupt himself and his billionaire friends trying to fight them.

In fact, let them fight the dirtiest fights possible. It will only lead to that many more "undecideds" staying home or voting Democrat.
 
2012-11-23 10:14:16 AM

Shadowknight: volunteered with Nixon


When he was 12 years old.

From Wiki: Grover Glenn Norquist (born October 19, 1956)
Norquist became involved with politics at an early age when he volunteered for the 1968 Nixon campaign
 
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