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(The Atlantic)   Won't sell your house? China doesn't give a fark, they'll build the road around it   (theatlantic.com ) divider line
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2012-11-23 06:05:28 AM  
3 votes:
Our house, it has a crowd.
There's always something happening,
And it's usually quite loud.

Our mum she's so house-proud.
Nothing ever slows her down,
And a mess is not allowed.

Our house, in the middle of our street.
2012-11-23 01:15:45 AM  
3 votes:

Dimensio: As a team, they could take turns lying down in front of the bulldozer, giving the Chinese government no choice.


And if the bulldozer crew would just like to take it as read that they're actually there, then they could slip off down to the pub for half an hour.
2012-11-23 01:23:25 PM  
2 votes:
Fark_Guy_Rob

2012-11-23 12:39:23 PM

It's pretty sad when China has more respect for their citizen's rights than the United States.

In the US - we wouldn't bother. We'd just take their land. Well, no. In the US we'd just take 'our' land - since we can't actually *own* land in any true sense of the word. You can lease land from your local government and hope no government body decides they have a use for it.


Nonsense. China has more respect for citizen rights than the US? Jeebus. Never been to China, eh? Or took that one week tour of Beijing and Shanghai - so you're an expert?

There is another story to this. Something fell through the grapevine. Developer fell out of favor or his connections sucked, bribes weren't paid to the right folks, central govt overruled the local govt official, the guy who owns the house was a Long March veteran. Something happened.

If anyone on this thread actually follows Chinese news closely in the past decade, you'd realize that literally hundreds of thousands of folks have been kicked off their land with minimal compensation (or sometimes none). There have been riots (which haven't been reported widely in the press) by angry peasants or poor folks who were pushed off by greedy developers who have bribed the local govt officials.

But hell, you dipshiats read one story about some hardluck person with their house on some highway... and its "China respects rights more than America." Right.
2012-11-23 06:19:13 AM  
2 votes:
Jaws_Victim:

Sounds like a society that operates entirely on the venture of making more money, like, capitalism. So what does that make the usa?

China isn't communist, it's an authoritarian crony capitalist state that uses the guise of socialism to maintain one-party rule. The US also has the benefit of not having gone through almost 100 years of total social destabilisation and the near-destruction of traditional culture in the last 40. the US is a mixed-economic, but compared to the Chinese we're fastidious where it comes to corruption in our officials- probably because we have a direct say in how we choose them. In China you almost have to be a corrupt, womanizing automaton to get ahead in government.

I guess it's ironic that Chinese students still take mandatory classes in Mao Zedong thought while their government engages in the same kind of totalitarian kleptocracy they decried in the Kuomintang. Socialism with Chinese Characteristics indeed.
2012-11-23 05:36:35 AM  
2 votes:
2012-11-23 01:54:02 AM  
2 votes:
china confuses me. a Communist country that welcomes companies that make the western worlds shiat, and people can own their own house.
2012-11-23 01:37:48 AM  
2 votes:

Relatively Obscure: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Dimensio: As a team, they could take turns lying down in front of the bulldozer, giving the Chinese government no choice.

Prefect!

Damn you.


You should be aware that H2G2 is not relatively obscure material.
2012-11-23 04:51:24 PM  
1 vote:
assets.flavorwire.com

Meanwhile, in Portland.

/hot
2012-11-23 11:23:48 AM  
1 vote:

KarmicDisaster: More like the land renter's rights. You can't own land in China, only rent it.


The lease lasts for the duration of your lifetime. In practice, there's no difference.

Semantically, yes, you could argue that there's a difference in the wording, but the end result is still the same: In both the U.S. and China, you only own your property until the government wants it. Once the government wants it, it's no longer yours.
2012-11-23 09:49:59 AM  
1 vote:
There is no "The Government". My understanding is the locals are sometimes corrupt and incompetent, but the country is so big that the middle tier government can't always keep tabs on what the crazy idiot locals are doing.
2012-11-23 08:31:30 AM  
1 vote:

some_beer_drinker: its not that simple. you cant own a house or property. Owning...mean leasing for 70 years.


You own a house there about as much as you own a house here in the U.S.

The Chinese government will renew that extremely long lease as long as they don't need the land. If they need the land, they'll take the house once the lease is up.

Here in the U.S., you own the house for as long as the government doesn't need the land. As soon as they need the land, you're out of the house immediately.

One can quibble semantics over a lease that lasts longer than the average person's lifespan versus a paper that states you own the house, but the effective end result, benefits, and rights afforded to ownership/lessee status in the U.S/China is approximately the same.
2012-11-23 07:47:24 AM  
1 vote:

Jaws_Victim: Day_Old_Dutchie: Kuroutesshin: Jaws_Victim:

Sounds like a society that operates entirely on the venture of making more money, like, capitalism. So what does that make the usa?

China isn't communist, it's an authoritarian crony capitalist state that uses the guise of socialism to maintain one-party rule. The US also has the benefit of not having gone through almost 100 years of total social destabilisation and the near-destruction of traditional culture in the last 40. the US is a mixed-economic, but compared to the Chinese we're fastidious where it comes to corruption in our officials- probably because we have a direct say in how we choose them. In China you almost have to be a corrupt, womanizing automaton to get ahead in government.

I guess it's ironic that Chinese students still take mandatory classes in Mao Zedong thought while their government engages in the same kind of totalitarian kleptocracy they decried in the Kuomintang. Socialism with Chinese Characteristics indeed.

Don't forget there's putting lead in toys, and melamine in pet food and baby milk. And they execute their citizens for tax evasion. What a utopia!

I forget how many peanut butter, tomato, and other such contaminations the us has. And dont forget the recent spinal injecting thing with those patients who died from that fungus. What a utopia!


Seriously?
2012-11-23 07:47:12 AM  
1 vote:

Hilary T. N. Seuss: Our house, it has a crowd.
There's always something happening,
And it's usually quite loud.

Our mum she's so house-proud.
Nothing ever slows her down,
And a mess is not allowed.

Our house, in the middle of our street.


1. Thanks for getting that song stuck in my head.
2. Game over man, game over
2012-11-23 07:21:03 AM  
1 vote:

Day_Old_Dutchie: Kuroutesshin: Jaws_Victim:

Sounds like a society that operates entirely on the venture of making more money, like, capitalism. So what does that make the usa?

China isn't communist, it's an authoritarian crony capitalist state that uses the guise of socialism to maintain one-party rule. The US also has the benefit of not having gone through almost 100 years of total social destabilisation and the near-destruction of traditional culture in the last 40. the US is a mixed-economic, but compared to the Chinese we're fastidious where it comes to corruption in our officials- probably because we have a direct say in how we choose them. In China you almost have to be a corrupt, womanizing automaton to get ahead in government.

I guess it's ironic that Chinese students still take mandatory classes in Mao Zedong thought while their government engages in the same kind of totalitarian kleptocracy they decried in the Kuomintang. Socialism with Chinese Characteristics indeed.

Don't forget there's putting lead in toys, and melamine in pet food and baby milk. And they execute their citizens for tax evasion. What a utopia!


assuming of course that the media isn't to blame for hyperderpery.
2012-11-23 07:18:53 AM  
1 vote:

Kuroutesshin: Jaws_Victim:

Sounds like a society that operates entirely on the venture of making more money, like, capitalism. So what does that make the usa?

China isn't communist, it's an authoritarian crony capitalist state that uses the guise of socialism to maintain one-party rule. The US also has the benefit of not having gone through almost 100 years of total social destabilisation and the near-destruction of traditional culture in the last 40. the US is a mixed-economic, but compared to the Chinese we're fastidious where it comes to corruption in our officials- probably because we have a direct say in how we choose them. In China you almost have to be a corrupt, womanizing automaton to get ahead in government.

I guess it's ironic that Chinese students still take mandatory classes in Mao Zedong thought while their government engages in the same kind of totalitarian kleptocracy they decried in the Kuomintang. Socialism with Chinese Characteristics indeed.


Wait.... we HAVE a culture? When did this happen?
2012-11-23 06:36:05 AM  
1 vote:

Hilary T. N. Seuss: Our house, it has a crowd.
There's always something happening,
And it's usually quite loud.

Our mum she's so house-proud.
Nothing ever slows her down,
And a mess is not allowed.

Our house, in the middle of our street.


This thread...
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2012-11-23 06:17:52 AM  
1 vote:

Day_Old_Dutchie: Hilary T. N. Seuss: Our house, it has a crowd.
There's always something happening,
And it's usually quite loud.

Our mum she's so house-proud.
Nothing ever slows her down,
And a mess is not allowed.

Our house, in the middle of our street.

Hey, Doc, what about the ZAX?


Damn it took a long time for someone to make that ref. Fark, I am disappoint.
2012-11-23 06:14:50 AM  
1 vote:

Hilary T. N. Seuss: Our house, it has a crowd.
There's always something happening,
And it's usually quite loud.

Our mum she's so house-proud.
Nothing ever slows her down,
And a mess is not allowed.

Our house, in the middle of our street.


Hey, Doc, what about the ZAX?
s7.postimage.org
2012-11-23 05:53:34 AM  
1 vote:
Heh. In the Land of the Free those people would have been forced to move out, manhandled by the cops and maybe even shot.
2012-11-23 05:22:36 AM  
1 vote:

Relatively Obscure: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Dimensio: As a team, they could take turns lying down in front of the bulldozer, giving the Chinese government no choice.

Prefect!

Damn you.


Nearly choked on my Ruffles.

/giggle fit
2012-11-23 05:18:25 AM  
1 vote:
Has anyone mentioned expressed surprise the government didn't squash em out.
2012-11-23 01:16:24 AM  
1 vote:

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Dimensio: As a team, they could take turns lying down in front of the bulldozer, giving the Chinese government no choice.

Prefect!


Damn you.
2012-11-23 01:13:11 AM  
1 vote:

Dimensio: As a team, they could take turns lying down in front of the bulldozer, giving the Chinese government no choice.


Prefect!
2012-11-23 01:04:27 AM  
1 vote:
As a team, they could take turns lying down in front of the bulldozer, giving the Chinese government no choice.
2012-11-23 12:34:36 AM  
1 vote:
I guess the Chinese haven't discovered Eminent Domain yet. Ha, savages.
2012-11-22 10:25:47 PM  
1 vote:
That's a pretty big house for an old couple.

I guess China has a different attitude towards eminent domain than the U. S. has.
 
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