Omahawg: Pocket Ninja: I was actually thinking about buying a Kindle Paperwhite until I logged on and saw that it wouldn't ship until December 21st. December 21st? What the fark is that? Jesus, I thought online shopping was supposed to be efficient. Christ, give me a chance to stand in line for 10 hours and knife some schmuck in the back to get it by the weekend. Way to fail, Amazon.man, those e-books don't pay nothing for royalties. seriously. it ain't even worth anyone's time. it doesn't even average out a penny a word anymore.that's what the downfall of civilization will be. when it don't even pay to tell folks about anything anymore.fark those e-books. fark them all day and all night long.
MadCat221: The opening on *thursday* crap has shown that Black Friday has jumped the shark. Retail corps have now sunk to new sociopathic lows defying the entire purpose of Thanksgiving, requiring their employees to forgo it to show up at a mandatory all-hands-on-deck event.
My Bologna Has A Maiden Name: Even shorter guide: buy nothing. By all means, go out and about early and often and waste all the salespeople's time you can, but buy nothing. Take whatever free samples you can but buy nothing. Make it so expensive a proposition for them to ram a distant shame-driven waste fest down our throats that they are forced to cease the year 'round bombardment of christmas advertising. Force some reason upon society. Buy nothing.
ThatGuyFromTheInternet: NannyStatePark: ExperianScaresCthulhu: NannyStatePark: KrispyKritter: ladyfortuna: MadCat221: The opening on *thursday* crap has shown that Black Friday has...Regarding your response to that wall of text, as an hourly employee I always knew at least a week in advance when I would be working. One's milage may vary, however, I would hesitate to equate the lack of traditional hours to a lack of stability. How are you screwed for making appointments when you are going to have a weekday off when otherwise you would have to miss work enirely? These whims of which you speak violate every employee arrangement I've ever had. Never have I been threatened with termination for refusing to cover a shift I wasn't properly scheduled for in any of my multiple hourly minimum wage jobs. I've worked for corporations and proprietorships in an at-will state in clerical, food service, retail and shipping. I'm also a mother of a teenager who actually knows a few things about stability in families as well.It is possible to need to schedule one's life, *more* than one week ahead.
ladyfortuna: it's really bullshiat compared to a lot of other companies and holiday pay.
Vaneshi: ladyfortuna:You're saying that the retail workers in America HAVE to work on a public holiday? For regular shift pay? Fark that, time to get a dose of the squits.
Butterflew: My bf wanted one of these. I reminded him that he already had a kindle paperweight at home.
KrispyKritter: ladyfortuna: MadCat221:reading this it seems like a combo sour grapes / the pot calling the kettle black. if i worked in retail six years i too would be bitter about it. but it would be self-directed animosity, not outward directed. reminds me of how some veterans love to think their personal decision to play G.I. Joe is a license to mouth loud at everyone about what a hero they are and how they did it for us. it is not customers who are unlocking that door in the morning. that door is being unlocked as per corporate, and they only give damn about bottom line, not your holiday. myself, i'll have nothing to do with thurs or fri sales. when i shop its online. the more people that shop online, the fewer employment opportunities will exist for brick & mortar retail. maybe in a few years all those unemployed retail workers will be happily home for every holiday and every other day of the week while everyone shops online.
Dansker: Mikey1969: Omahawg: meh. i get a couple checks a year so what of it? i'm a notorious luddite though who has never owned a cell phone so i'm likely prejudiced but, damn, the royalties from e-book downloads are truly less than a pittance. i'm talking charles dickens orphans scrounging for alms and gruel in the gutter with the offal level of payment.Which is stupid, considering that the prices for the books are almost the same as the prices for new hardcovers. It's a ripoff, and they have all kinds of things to justify the cots, but they're all bullshiat, they're just ripping you off. I love my nook, but I refuse to pay $15 for a book that cost them nothing to produce.You obviously have a point; they save on printing and distribution. But sparring, editing, corrections, typesetting and marketing has a kind of cost. In extreme cases, the editor spends more time on the book than the author.Writers already submit books in electronic formats, and all the publisher really has to foot the bill for is storage space.Seriously, authors rarely submit manuscripts that are ready to print. They're as bad at spelling, punctuation and grammar as everybody else. And as bad at editing their own writing.I'd like to hear how they justify ripping the authors off on top of it all...I could be wrong, but I have noticed that novels I bought from Amazon seem to change price, depending on how far up the bestseller list they are: Low price to boost sales when nobody's buying, high when it's being ripped off the virtual shelves. If authors are getting percentages, only the ones nobody wants to read are being "ripped off".
Omahawg: then you have a better agent than me.
Mad_Radhu: ladyfortuna: Mad_Radhu: eFor the love of god, just stop.Sorry, didn't realize I was personally pissing in your Cheerios this morning.
ladyfortuna: Mad_Radhu: eFor the love of god, just stop.
Omahawg: meh. i get a couple checks a year so what of it? i'm a notorious luddite though who has never owned a cell phone so i'm likely prejudiced but, damn, the royalties from e-book downloads are truly less than a pittance. i'm talking charles dickens orphans scrounging for alms and gruel in the gutter with the offal level of payment.
RedPhoenix122: Bucky Katt: Bah humbug. I'm going to give money to the Indians tomorrow ... at their casino.You should do that, then take it back.
Bucky Katt: Bah humbug. I'm going to give money to the Indians tomorrow ... at their casino.
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