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(YouTube)   This song is called "Alice's Restaurant," and it's about Alice, and the restaurant, but "Alice's Restaurant" isn't the name of the restaurant, that's just the name of the song, and that's why I call this song "Alice's Restaurant"   (youtube.com) divider line 66
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2012-11-23 12:04:57 AM
7 votes:
An American classic, alas, so much of the humor is lost on those generations that, because so many "people walked in, sang a few bars of the Alice's Restaurant Massacre, and walked out," do not understand the convoluted reality that was the draft. G
2012-11-22 11:54:37 PM
5 votes:
This song is a thanksgiving day tradition in my household
2012-11-23 12:00:24 AM
4 votes:

LemSkroob: auditory garbage.

I would rather listen to bieber.


Well, that says a lot about you. Whether this is a legendary song or not, it's got more content than anything that little lesbian put out.
2012-11-23 01:31:26 AM
3 votes:

Leftwinger: An American classic, alas, so much of the humor is lost on those generations that, because so many "people walked in, sang a few bars of the Alice's Restaurant Massacre, and walked out," do not understand the convoluted reality that was the draft. 


Suppose people traveling for Thanksgiving all decided to opt out and sing a bar of Alice's Restaurant while being groped by the TSA.

Because friends, somewhere in Utah, enshrined in some little corner of a datacenter, is a study in ones and zeroes of this thread. And the only reason I'm postin' this post now is 'cause you may know somebody in a similar situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if you're in a situation like that, there's only one thing you can do, and that's walk into the airport wherever you are, just walk in say "I Opt Out, and you can get anything you want, at Alice's restaurant." And opt out.

If one person, just one person does it, they may think he's a 'terrist and disappear his ass. And if two people, two people do it - in harmony - they may think it's perfectly normal as long as the tickets indicate they're traveling to SFO. And three people do it, three, can you imagine three people optin' out of the scanner, singing a bar of Alice's Restaurant and optin' out? They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day walking in singing a bar of Alice's Restaurant and opting out? And friends, they may think it's a movement.

And that's what it is, the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Security-Theater Movement, and all you got to do to join is opt out of the security theater and force the TSA's goons to demean themselves by gropin' your balls the next time it come's around on the guitar.

You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant,
You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant,
Walk right in, it's around the back,
Half a mile from the VIPRs stakin' out Amtrak,
And you can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant.

That was horrible. If you want to end the War on Freedom you gotta sing loud. I've been hangin' out on Fark today for twenty hours. I could hang out here for another twenty hours. I'm not proud... or tired.
2012-11-23 12:40:44 AM
3 votes:

ImNotFatImFluffy: Can someone explain this to me? My wife tells me she has to listen to it every thanksgiving and apparently it is/was a family tradition to hear it. Every time i try to listen to it, my eyes glaze over. I'm not saying it's bad, i just have a horrible attention span and listening to some guy rambling on about whatever doesn't really hold my interest. Why is this song apparently such a huge thanksgiving song for people?


Well, it all started about two thanksgivings ago...
2012-11-23 12:34:26 AM
3 votes:
For the record, when you pull the turkey out of the oven, if you put this track on, it represents the ideal "resting time" before carving the turkey. I've used it for over 30 years (LP, then cassette, then CD, and now iTunes) and it never misses. And then, unless you have assholes at your Thanksgiving dinner, raise a glass, be silent, and put on William S. Burroughs' "A Thanksgiving Prayer" from his "Dead City Radio" spoken-word recording.

Trust me on this.
2012-11-23 12:15:31 AM
3 votes:
also according to Spotify the song is called Alice's Restaraunt Massacre.
2012-11-23 12:12:21 AM
3 votes:

Coelacanth: I remember when this first came out. Conservatives thought it was a battle cry for hippies to overthrow the establishment (again).


... it literally was...
2012-11-23 12:02:19 AM
3 votes:
This song has played on my local radio station for decades. Every year my dad and I listen to it on Thanksgiving. I'm 32 years old, and it's still a tg tradition for my dad and I to listen to this song and sing it together. Been doing it for as long as I can remember.
2012-11-22 11:54:25 PM
3 votes:
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down Of the big lake they called 'Gitche Gumee' The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead When the skies of November turn gloomy

With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty. That big ship and true was a bone to be chewed When the gales of November came early.

The ship was the pride of the American side Coming back from some mill in Wisconsin As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most With a crew and good captain well seasoned

Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms When they left fully loaded for Cleveland And later that night when the ship's bell rang Could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'?

The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound And a wave broke over the railing And every man knew, as the captain did too, T'was the witch of November come stealin'.

The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait When the Gales of November came slashin'. When afternoon came it was freezin' rain In the face of a hurricane west wind.

When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin'. Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya. At Seven P.M. a main hatchway caved in, he said (2010 lyric change by Gordon Lightfoot: At Seven P.M., it grew dark, it was then he said,) Fellas, it's been good t'know ya

The captain wired in he had water comin' in And the good ship and crew was in peril. And later that night when his lights went outta sight Came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Does any one know where the love of God goes When the waves turn the minutes to hours? The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay If they'd put fifteen more miles behind her.

They might have split up or they might have capsized; May have broke deep and took water. And all that remains is the faces and the names Of the wives and the sons and the daughters.

Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings In the rooms of her ice-water mansion. Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams; The islands and bays are for sportsmen.

And farther below Lake Ontario Takes in what Lake Erie can send her, And the iron boats go as the mariners all know With the Gales of November remembered.

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed, In the Maritime Sailors' Cathedral. The church bell chimed till it rang twenty-nine times For each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down Of the big lake they call 'Gitche Gumee'. Superior, they said, never gives up her dead When the gales of November come early!
2012-11-23 01:06:00 AM
2 votes:
jumped up and down yellin' "kill Kill Kill"
"I want blood and gore and veins in my teeth, I wanna Kill"
then we were both jumping up and down yelling "kill kill kill""
2012-11-23 01:02:44 AM
2 votes:

Curse of the Goth Kids: TheTurtle: "A Thanksgiving Prayer"

Now you're farking talking. Gimme a beat over a hippie any day.

/this post shiat out through wholesome American guts


That said, it wasn't Arlo's fault he was of a certain age in the 1960s. He had more folkie cred in the Village in the early 1960s than Dylan among a certain crowd. Remember, the Pete Seeger/Weavers/Phil Ochs crew loved and adored Woody, and adopted Arlo. Dylan was this guy from Hibbing who hung around and eventually learned to write his own shiat, and in so doing, transcended everything Seeger and the "old folkies" were doing. This led directly to Newport 1965, where they damn near booed him off the stage when he plugged in that solid-body. But he grew a big head.

Jump ahead 20 years. I saw Arlo, live, twice, two years in a row, Artpark, Lewiston, New York. First time, Arlo opened up for John Prine, but it was an Arlo audience, and after Arlo did "Alice's" (updated) and closed out his set, half the crowd went home. A year later, same venue, Pete Seeger opened up for Arlo, and did all his old 1950s union songs and "Little Boxes" and tried to get everybody to sing along like it was 1962. Everybody stuck around to see Arlo.

I'm glad Arlo didn't come down with Huntington's. I'd still rather sit and listen to him all night than listen to two Dylan songs.

Arlo would have been cool as shiat with that "Soy Bomb" dude. And you can understand Arlo when he sings.
2012-11-23 12:50:24 AM
2 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: I prefer "God's Own Drunk" by Jimmy Buffett, even though he stole it from Lord Buckley.


Lord Buckley was the shiat. His court case against the City of New York regarding the "cabaret card" regulations made Lenny Bruce possible, and thereby, George Carlin.
2012-11-23 12:26:03 AM
2 votes:

ImNotFatImFluffy: Can someone explain this to me? My wife tells me she has to listen to it every thanksgiving and apparently it is/was a family tradition to hear it. Every time i try to listen to it, my eyes glaze over. I'm not saying it's bad, i just have a horrible attention span and listening to some guy rambling on about whatever doesn't really hold my interest. Why is this song apparently such a huge thanksgiving song for people?


It's basically a protest song using exaggeration and humor to retell true events. I wasn't born for several years after it came out, but I definitely look at it as a very specific slice of the 60's peace movement. I guess people just get attached to songs for different reasons, but when I hear it, I just envision some dopey hippy kid trying to have a nice Thanksgiving with friends and it spirals into silliness.
2012-11-23 12:19:25 AM
2 votes:
I heard it every thanksgiving morning in omaha during the 80s. I thought it was a 'thing'?

beats the shiat outta christmas music

oh, comin' into los angeles....now that's a christmas song
2012-11-23 12:19:24 AM
2 votes:

moops: The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down Of the big lake they called 'Gitche Gumee' ...

And the old chiefs still smile and chuckle awhile, 'cause the white man is really quite screwy.
See they took a big boat and set her afloat, said boys let's cross this big water.
Load her up to the top with them rusty red rocks, and then she'll float like an otter.


The weather got rough but the men they were tough, no cellular phones they were dialin'
They looked al around for to run 'er aground but they couldn't find Gilligan's Island.

So they held their breath and they sank to their death and the priest re-wrote his liturgy.
About those dumb guys who gave up their young lives for the great cause of metallurgy.


The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down Of the big lake they called 'Gitche Gumee'

And the old chiefs still smile and chuckle awhile, 'cause the white man is really quite screwy
2012-11-23 12:18:31 AM
2 votes:

ImNotFatImFluffy: Can someone explain this to me? My wife tells me she has to listen to it every thanksgiving and apparently it is/was a family tradition to hear it. Every time i try to listen to it, my eyes glaze over. I'm not saying it's bad, i just have a horrible attention span and listening to some guy rambling on about whatever doesn't really hold my interest. Why is this song apparently such a huge thanksgiving song for people?


the story, or parable, occurs on thanksgiving. The rest is the irony of a guy busted for littering being considered possibly mentally unfit to "burn women houses and children." you can go on from there, or not...

hippie shiat, but real good hippie shiat.
2012-11-23 12:15:27 AM
2 votes:
Remember Alice?

It's a song about Alice.
2012-11-23 12:14:39 AM
2 votes:
Can someone explain this to me? My wife tells me she has to listen to it every thanksgiving and apparently it is/was a family tradition to hear it. Every time i try to listen to it, my eyes glaze over. I'm not saying it's bad, i just have a horrible attention span and listening to some guy rambling on about whatever doesn't really hold my interest. Why is this song apparently such a huge thanksgiving song for people?
2012-11-23 12:12:45 AM
2 votes:
I'm not proud.


/or tired.
2012-11-23 12:00:30 AM
2 votes:
best greenlight
2012-11-22 11:55:05 PM
2 votes:

syrynxx: . I'd rather hear "It's a Small World".


At any given moment, you are only a whim away from singing the refrain to The Lion Sleeps Tonight.

A whim away.

/a whim away
2012-11-22 11:52:43 PM
2 votes:

syrynxx: I hate this song. I'd rather hear "It's a Small World".

it's a world of laughter, a world or tears
its a world of hopes, its a world of fear
theres so much that we share
that its time we're aware
its a small world after all

CHORUS:
its a small world after all
its a small world after all
its a small world after all
its a small, small world

There is just one moon and one golden sun
And a smile means friendship to everyone.
Though the mountains divide
And the oceans are wide
It's a small small world

CHORUS:
its a small world after all
its a small world after all
its a small world after all
its a small, small world


over on the group w bench for you!
2012-11-23 06:11:30 AM
1 votes:

TheTurtle: theewhiterhino: TheTurtle: Curse of the Goth Kids: TheTurtle: "A Thanksgiving Prayer"

Now you're farking talking. Gimme a beat over a hippie any day.

...he told the same exact stories every time. Has done the same "new" version of Alice's" every time.
Love the guy. No real expectation for anything more, but that's what it's been.

Realistically, he doesn't have a lot of places to go with that song, or with his show, in the same sort of way as the Dead didn't... it was a big deal in the early 1980s when he modified "Alice's" because there wasn't no draft no more, and Whitehall Street was long gone, but people had to go down and register for the (nonexistent) draft at the Post Office. But he handled it.

Best analogy I can make is Don McLean. He's sick as shiat of singing "American Pie," too. If Harry Chapin had lived, he'd have gotten sick as shiat of singing "Taxi" the same way every night. I have no idea how The Stones handle it.


You can't please everyone so you got to please yourself.
2012-11-23 03:30:42 AM
1 votes:

bemused outsider: ...I just want to ride my motor-sickle.

/Wow. Lotta memories comin' back.


And I don't wanna die,
I just wanna ride on my motorcy

/cle
2012-11-23 03:27:12 AM
1 votes:
Also this:

1893. To Catch Rats
. Cover a common barrel with stiff, stout paper, tying the edge round the barrel; place a board so that the rats may have easy accessto the top; sprinkle cheese parings or other feed for the rats on the paper for several days, until they begin to think that they have a right to their daily rations from this source; then place in the bottom of the barrel a piece of rock about 6 or 7 inches high, filling with water until only enough of it projectsabove the water for one rat to lodge upon. Now replace the paper, first cutting a cross in the middle, and the first rat that comes on the barrel top goes through into the water, and climbs on the rock. The paper comes back to its original position, and the second rat follows the first. Then begins a fight for the possession of the dry place on the stone, the noise of which attracts the others, who share the same fate.

Read more: http://chestofbooks.com/reference/Encyclopedia-Of-Practical-Receipts-A nd-Processes/The-Extermination-of-Vermin.html#.UK8zB4dJNmM#ixzz2D24EwO jC
2012-11-23 02:56:16 AM
1 votes:

2 Replies: You know... As much as I'd look forward to reliving my youth through my children while watching them discover the world for the first time..
Having to relive mediocre songs when some random Internet users "discovers" something for the first time..
Not so much.


There's the door.

WHERE IS MY farkING SCOTCH???
2012-11-23 02:55:15 AM
1 votes:

2 Replies: You know... As much as I'd look forward to reliving my youth through my children while watching them discover the world for the first time..
Having to relive mediocre songs when some random Internet users "discovers" something for the first time.. Not so much.



Don't let yourself get old, or you'll have to listen to smart aleck kids shooting their mouths off about things they don't understand that happened before they were born.
2012-11-23 02:31:51 AM
1 votes:
i234.photobucket.com

Aforementioned asshat
2012-11-23 02:11:08 AM
1 votes:
Here are two John Prine anti-war classics. The first one raises a lot of dust, the second is comedy gold.

Sam Stone

Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore
2012-11-23 01:58:04 AM
1 votes:
I don't want a pickle.
2012-11-23 01:47:39 AM
1 votes:

jaktripper: That was terrible, made it to 5 mins and had enough.


That's great, kid. I bet you can find a nice Michael Bey film on Netflix.
2012-11-23 01:39:42 AM
1 votes:
Favorite part:

We walked in, sat down, Obie came in with the twenty seven eight-by-ten
colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back
of each one, sat down. Man came in said, "All rise." We all stood up,
and Obie stood up with the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy
pictures, and the judge walked in sat down with a seeing eye dog, and he
sat down, we sat down. Obie looked at the seeing eye dog, and then at the
twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows
and a paragraph on the back of each one, and looked at the seeing eye dog.
And then at twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles
and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one and began to cry,
'cause Obie came to the realization that it was a typical case of American
blind justice, and there wasn't nothing he could do about it, and the
judge wasn't going to look at the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy
pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each
one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us. And
we was fined $50 and had to pick up the garbage in the snow, but thats not
what I came to tell you about.
2012-11-23 01:35:01 AM
1 votes:

Twilight Farkle: Leftwinger: An American classic, alas, so much of the humor is lost on those generations that, because so many "people walked in, sang a few bars of the Alice's Restaurant Massacre, and walked out," do not understand the convoluted reality that was the draft. 

Suppose people traveling for Thanksgiving all decided to opt out and sing a bar of Alice's Restaurant while being groped by the TSA.

Because friends, somewhere in Utah, enshrined in some little corner of a datacenter, is a study in ones and zeroes of this thread. And the only reason I'm postin' this post now is 'cause you may know somebody in a similar situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if you're in a situation like that, there's only one thing you can do, and that's walk into the airport wherever you are, just walk in say "I Opt Out, and you can get anything you want, at Alice's restaurant." And opt out.

If one person, just one person does it, they may think he's a 'terrist and disappear his ass. And if two people, two people do it - in harmony - they may think it's perfectly normal as long as the tickets indicate they're traveling to SFO. And three people do it, three, can you imagine three people optin' out of the scanner, singing a bar of Alice's Restaurant and optin' out? They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day walking in singing a bar of Alice's Restaurant and opting out? And friends, they may think it's a movement.

And that's what it is, the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Security-Theater Movement, and all you got to do to join is opt out of the security theater and force the TSA's goons to demean themselves by gropin' your balls the next time it come's around on the guitar.

You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant,
You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant,
Walk right in, it's around the back,
Half a mile from the VIPRs stakin' out Amtrak,
And you can get anything you want, at Alice's Restau ...


////or tired! Love it.

All you have to do is sing it the next time it comes around on the guit-ar
2012-11-23 01:29:11 AM
1 votes:
As much as I agree, Arlo has such a frame of reference to draw from. Don't know from Don McLean's background, but look at Arlo's life. Woody, Bob, Pete. The man has stories out the wazoo.
But I'm not bitter or anything. I love him giving his kids a showcase, I love his sister, Sorry he just lost his wife. Hope they all stay Huntington's free. Got a lot of love from them, give it right back.

/Saw Harry Chapin a few times back in the day.
//Saw Jim Croce once.
///Yeah, I'm old as shiat.
2012-11-23 01:28:12 AM
1 votes:

TheTurtle: That said, it wasn't Arlo's fault he was of a certain age in the 1960s.


Yeah, I kind of regretted posting that after it was already in the can. The "boomers" are my parents' generation, and I actually hadn't heard this song in many years; it puts a very human face on a determinative moment in a long, weird trajectory which will probably begin reaching its conclusion within the next 10 to 20 years and which has immediately affected everything that's happened since that moment.

Also, listening to that recording and noting its date, 1967, I couldn't help but think about the stark contrast in timbre between it and what you'd hear out of, for example, two short years earlier in 1965.

Certainly, some things are not easily discounted.

/still like Burroughs better though :p
2012-11-23 01:25:30 AM
1 votes:
Does anyone else remember when Westinghouse's radio stations were networked as "Group W" -- KYW radio in Philadelphia, for example?
2012-11-23 01:21:45 AM
1 votes:

theewhiterhino: TheTurtle: Curse of the Goth Kids: TheTurtle: "A Thanksgiving Prayer"

Now you're farking talking. Gimme a beat over a hippie any day.

...he told the same exact stories every time. Has done the same "new" version of Alice's" every time.
Love the guy. No real expectation for anything more, but that's what it's been.


Realistically, he doesn't have a lot of places to go with that song, or with his show, in the same sort of way as the Dead didn't... it was a big deal in the early 1980s when he modified "Alice's" because there wasn't no draft no more, and Whitehall Street was long gone, but people had to go down and register for the (nonexistent) draft at the Post Office. But he handled it.

Best analogy I can make is Don McLean. He's sick as shiat of singing "American Pie," too. If Harry Chapin had lived, he'd have gotten sick as shiat of singing "Taxi" the same way every night. I have no idea how The Stones handle it.
2012-11-23 01:16:56 AM
1 votes:

TheTurtle: Curse of the Goth Kids: TheTurtle: "A Thanksgiving Prayer"

Now you're farking talking. Gimme a beat over a hippie any day.

/this post shiat out through wholesome American guts

That said, it wasn't Arlo's fault he was of a certain age in the 1960s. He had more folkie cred in the Village in the early 1960s than Dylan among a certain crowd. Remember, the Pete Seeger/Weavers/Phil Ochs crew loved and adored Woody, and adopted Arlo. Dylan was this guy from Hibbing who hung around and eventually learned to write his own shiat, and in so doing, transcended everything Seeger and the "old folkies" were doing. This led directly to Newport 1965, where they damn near booed him off the stage when he plugged in that solid-body. But he grew a big head.

I'm glad Arlo didn't come down with Huntington's. I'd still rather sit and listen to him all night than listen to two Dylan songs.

Arlo would have been cool as shiat with that "Soy Bomb" dude. And you can understand Arlo when he sings.


I doubt Arlo would have been cool with that soy bomb jackass, with whom I've exchanged unpleasantries on fark before. Arlo isn't all that great spontaneously. I've seen him umpteen times, at festivals and backstage. He'd pretty locked in. Not as able, or willing, to go off script.
In at least a half dozen opportunities as master of ceremonies at Furthur festival, and at just as many folk festivals, (Philly Folk Fest in particular) he told the same exact stories every time. Has done the same "new" version of Alice's" every time.
Love the guy. No real expectation for anything more, but that's what it's been.
2012-11-23 01:06:03 AM
1 votes:

Lizardking: Every Thanksgiving I watch the WKRP in Cincinatti episode "Turkeys Away" and I listen to this song in its entirety at least once. I will attempt to do so every Thanksgiving from now until I die. Thats just how I roll, man


It's an honorable tradition. And worthy.
2012-11-23 01:02:27 AM
1 votes:
Every Thanksgiving I watch the WKRP in Cincinatti episode "Turkeys Away" and I listen to this song in its entirety at least once. I will attempt to do so every Thanksgiving from now until I die. Thats just how I roll, man
2012-11-23 12:54:54 AM
1 votes:
it's a very importance piece. another work of the era is HAIR. highly recommend both. your grand parents were into some freaky shiat, kids. it was a freaky time.
2012-11-23 12:51:10 AM
1 votes:

bbfreak: A Thanksgiving tradition in my house too. Movie is alright but nothing special (the story works better via song), and don't agree with the song about the military being bad in general or its people to which the song sort of implies. Still a great song though, and great story.


Well, back when there was the draft, a lot of people didn't view the military as a whole as a great thing.
2012-11-23 12:47:42 AM
1 votes:

Gaambit: "You gotta sing out if you want the war to end" (or however it goes) always makes me laugh. More in the way he delivers it.



Now tha's horrible. You wanna end the war n stuff you gotta sing LOUD!
2012-11-23 12:46:01 AM
1 votes:
A Thanksgiving tradition in my house too. Movie is alright but nothing special (the story works better via song), and don't agree with the song about the military being bad in general or its people to which the song sort of implies. Still a great song though, and great story.
2012-11-23 12:44:29 AM
1 votes:

HotWingAgenda: KaiC: ImNotFatImFluffy: Can someone explain this to me? My wife tells me she has to listen to it every thanksgiving and apparently it is/was a family tradition to hear it. Every time i try to listen to it, my eyes glaze over. I'm not saying it's bad, i just have a horrible attention span and listening to some guy rambling on about whatever doesn't really hold my interest. Why is this song apparently such a huge thanksgiving song for people?

It's basically a protest song using exaggeration and humor to retell true events. I wasn't born for several years after it came out, but I definitely look at it as a very specific slice of the 60's peace movement. I guess people just get attached to songs for different reasons, but when I hear it, I just envision some dopey hippy kid trying to have a nice Thanksgiving with friends and it spirals into silliness.

How on earth does that translate to a traditional holiday song passed down for three generations? I'm seriously asking, because I've never heard of this phenomenon outside of Fark.


I never heard of this song before I heard it on WFBQ in Indianapolis, but now I listen to it a couple times every Thanksgiving even if I'm not home.

I introduced it to my co-driver today. He had thought it was funny but I had to explain a few of the references because he's not as much into history as I am. Today I heard for the first time the newer version where Jimmy Carter's son related finding a copy of his album in the White House library, presumably opened and listened to by Nixon. That part took a lot of explaining, since he wasn't really aware of either Nixon or Carter.
2012-11-23 12:42:06 AM
1 votes:

HotWingAgenda: KaiC: ImNotFatImFluffy: Can someone explain this to me? My wife tells me she has to listen to it every thanksgiving and apparently it is/was a family tradition to hear it. Every time i try to listen to it, my eyes glaze over. I'm not saying it's bad, i just have a horrible attention span and listening to some guy rambling on about whatever doesn't really hold my interest. Why is this song apparently such a huge thanksgiving song for people?

It's basically a protest song using exaggeration and humor to retell true events. I wasn't born for several years after it came out, but I definitely look at it as a very specific slice of the 60's peace movement. I guess people just get attached to songs for different reasons, but when I hear it, I just envision some dopey hippy kid trying to have a nice Thanksgiving with friends and it spirals into silliness.

How on earth does that translate to a traditional holiday song passed down for three generations? I'm seriously asking, because I've never heard of this phenomenon outside of Fark.


because it occurred on Thanksgiving. Second time I said it in this, the second thread of the day on this subject. It's a folkie/hippie song about the draft from the Woodstock era by an icon. Sorry if you're young, or have your head up your ass, but there it is. jeebus..
2012-11-23 12:37:01 AM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: catzies: also went to Woodstock

You banged my old lady in the mud pit.


Couldn't have. I was a girl-child of 7. Mom took my 5 year old brother and me in a VW bus up from Miami. Cheaper than a babysitter I guess. Acutally, she knew Michael Lang who pulled the whole thing off.

My memories are not of the music, but of mud, endless walking, and being bored and hungry and thinking grownups were stupid.
2012-11-23 12:35:55 AM
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moops: The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down Of the big lake they called 'Gitche Gumee' The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead When the skies of November turn gloomy


Insufficient rest time for the turkey, and "Alice's Restaurant" outranks it by at least eight years.
2012-11-23 12:32:48 AM
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KaiC: ImNotFatImFluffy: Can someone explain this to me? My wife tells me she has to listen to it every thanksgiving and apparently it is/was a family tradition to hear it. Every time i try to listen to it, my eyes glaze over. I'm not saying it's bad, i just have a horrible attention span and listening to some guy rambling on about whatever doesn't really hold my interest. Why is this song apparently such a huge thanksgiving song for people?

It's basically a protest song using exaggeration and humor to retell true events. I wasn't born for several years after it came out, but I definitely look at it as a very specific slice of the 60's peace movement. I guess people just get attached to songs for different reasons, but when I hear it, I just envision some dopey hippy kid trying to have a nice Thanksgiving with friends and it spirals into silliness.


How on earth does that translate to a traditional holiday song passed down for three generations? I'm seriously asking, because I've never heard of this phenomenon outside of Fark.
2012-11-23 12:28:23 AM
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catzies: ImNotFatImFluffy: also according to Spotify the song is called Alice's Restaraunt Massacre.

MassacreE. "Massacree."

/old enough to know from the first time around
//also went to Woodstock


I'm still mad at my mom for not taking her friend up on her offer to bring her. On the other hand, knowing what my mom was up to in the late 60's, it was probably best for her health that she didn't go. ;p
2012-11-23 12:26:54 AM
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ThighsofGlory: mgshamster: This song has played on my local radio station for decades. Every year my dad and I listen to it on Thanksgiving. I'm 32 years old, and it's still a tg tradition for my dad and I to listen to this song and sing it together. Been doing it for as long as I can remember.

The Boy heard it for the first time this afternoon. I had to tell him which war Arlo referenced.


And so the troubadour tradition lives on...
2012-11-23 12:24:15 AM
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ImNotFatImFluffy: also according to Spotify the song is called Alice's Restaraunt Massacre.


MassacreE. "Massacree."

/old enough to know from the first time around
//also went to Woodstock
2012-11-23 12:23:26 AM
1 votes:

mgshamster: This song has played on my local radio station for decades. Every year my dad and I listen to it on Thanksgiving. I'm 32 years old, and it's still a tg tradition for my dad and I to listen to this song and sing it together. Been doing it for as long as I can remember.


The Boy heard it for the first time this afternoon. I had to tell him which war Arlo referenced.
2012-11-23 12:22:19 AM
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2012-11-23 12:22:06 AM
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Omahawg: I heard it every thanksgiving morning in omaha during the 80s. I thought it was a 'thing'?

beats the shiat outta christmas music

oh, comin' into los angeles....now that's a christmas song


don't touch my bags if you please, mr. customs man.
2012-11-23 12:14:42 AM
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Yogimus: Coelacanth: I remember when this first came out. Conservatives thought it was a battle cry for hippies to overthrow the establishment (again).

... it literally was...


it literally was.
Much to our chagrin, it f a i l e d.
2012-11-23 12:14:27 AM
1 votes:
WTF's this hippy shiat?
2012-11-23 12:12:13 AM
1 votes:
There was an earler link, but hey.

As a Group W Bench dweller, I'm always ready for another.

Mother raper, Father stabbers. Father rapers.

kill. Kill. KILL.

www.mentalfloss.com

Link
2012-11-23 12:11:06 AM
1 votes:
my local radio stations have dropped the ball, not playing the song about Arlo wondering if he's moral enough to join the Army, burn women, kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug


:)
2012-11-23 12:09:36 AM
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("KID, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?")
2012-11-23 12:08:30 AM
1 votes:
I remember when this first came out. Conservatives thought it was a battle cry for hippies to overthrow the establishment (again).
2012-11-23 12:03:51 AM
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Alice? Who the fark is Alice?
2012-11-23 12:00:48 AM
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I love this tune. Nicely done subby.
2012-11-23 12:00:33 AM
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syrynxx: I hate this song. I'd rather hear "It's a Small World".


LemSkroob: auditory garbage.

I would rather listen to bieber.


Yeah, I'd expect that from Bieber fans. Hush, people with taste are talking.
2012-11-22 11:50:57 PM
1 votes:
I prefer Tom's Diner.
 
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