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2012-11-22 07:17:16 PM
Nine year olds use Pirate Bay?

Huh.
 
2012-11-22 07:24:52 PM
"apologid"? That seems to be the main thrust of that sentence, and spell check didn't catch it?
 
2012-11-22 07:25:09 PM
every single time with these farks... ok there are... like... millions of pirates in the world. let's find the most innocent one we can - maybe an old lady or a 9 year old or something and go raid their house. that'll show em. that'll show em all!!!
 
2012-11-22 07:30:42 PM
I like the dad's explanation:

"We have not done anything wrong with my daughter. If adults do not always know how to use a computer and the web, how can you assume that children or the elderly - or a 9-year-old girl - knows what they are doing at any given time online?"

Enforcing this kinda law...its almost flimsy as those red light camera tickets.
 
2012-11-22 07:34:33 PM
apologizid to the family? are you high? in teh USA a SWAT team would have kicked in the door of the innocent neighbors across the street, shot their 9yr old grand-daughter, her puppy and took a Tazer to Grandma's silly ass while Grandpa was beat to death because they through he was a threat while he was having a seizure. Johnny Law don't apologizid, biatch.

/everyone would be cleared of any wrongdoing after careful scrutiny by an internal blue ribbon panel.
//those involved would get 2 weeks off with pay
 
2012-11-22 07:38:32 PM
If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.
 
2012-11-22 08:05:20 PM
www.acmefilmworks.com
 
2012-11-22 08:08:54 PM
seriously? a swat team for that ? a little time spent on surveillance would had shown it totally unnecessary. as for the infringement issue no comment. seriously though over 2 songs?
 
2012-11-22 08:09:58 PM
Finnish police are all bluster.
 
2012-11-22 08:29:53 PM
If only there was some game hungry youngsters could play...winner take all variety...to settle these minor disputes.
 
2012-11-22 08:40:08 PM
Under 18, washes clean.

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-22 08:49:18 PM

styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.


Having a private tracker is also a great protection against that.
 
2012-11-22 08:55:48 PM
I'm personally kind of glad for this girl. If there are nine year old girls torrenting pop music from their PoohTops, well, the record industry has already lost. In another generation, no one will take this swat team crap anymore.
 
2012-11-22 09:00:53 PM
Finnish music thread?

userserve-ak.last.fm

userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2012-11-22 09:01:43 PM
So.....would you say....the girl lost her Pooh?

/fail, I know
 
2012-11-22 09:08:47 PM
I know the police aren't all that busy solving murders or catching drug dealers and what not... But couldn't they find a less expensive way to kill the time on shift?
 
2012-11-22 09:15:37 PM

styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.


Overkill. They go after soft targets and people who fall for honeypot trackers. Enabling encryption should only take a minute or so and do the trick. Of course a seedbox does take care of the fact that most people have a pitiful amount of upstream bandwidth.
 
2012-11-22 09:28:33 PM

7th Son of a 7th Son: So.....would you say....the girl lost her Pooh?

/fail, I know


"I guess you could say... *sunglasses* She lost her shiat... *YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!*

/That's how it's done folks.
//gotta have wordplay in that joke. everyone knows pooh and shiat are synonymous, and that's what makes the joke work.
 
2012-11-22 09:40:08 PM

Girion47: styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.

Having a private tracker is also a great protection against that.


Agreed, but also 99% of private trackers are a pita to get on.. I have my iptorrents account which I only grabbed cause I donated and it suites my needs. The seedbox easily let me amass a massive ratio and saves me bandwidth and keeps Comcast off my asshole. I don't have time nor the patience to sit and be interviewed and send in my torrent client resume to hopefully get an invite to some other bullshiat private tracker.
 
2012-11-22 09:47:23 PM

styckx: Girion47: styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.

Having a private tracker is also a great protection against that.

Agreed, but also 99% of private trackers are a pita to get on.. I have my iptorrents account which I only grabbed cause I donated and it suites my needs. The seedbox easily let me amass a massive ratio and saves me bandwidth and keeps Comcast off my asshole. I don't have time nor the patience to sit and be interviewed and send in my torrent client resume to hopefully get an invite to some other bullshiat private tracker.


You sound like you don't have many friends with invites.

Also, Private does not mean "pay for access."
 
2012-11-22 10:12:52 PM
I thought it was common knowledge that Pirate Bay is heavily monitored, and probably infiltrated by the RIAA.
 
2012-11-22 10:35:38 PM
I'm sorry, but you have to be a cheap ass bastard to pirate music these days. I've been able to get just about every new release I've wanted lately for $4 at Amazon MP3, to the point that I almost don't have time to listen to all the new stuff I buy. When a new album is less than a drink at Starbuck's you really can't complain about music being too expensive anymore.
 
2012-11-22 10:38:36 PM

Hacker_X: styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.

Overkill. They go after soft targets and people who fall for honeypot trackers. Enabling encryption should only take a minute or so and do the trick. Of course a seedbox does take care of the fact that most people have a pitiful amount of upstream bandwidth.


You think encryption protects you from that? All it does is block ISP throttling.
 
2012-11-22 10:46:52 PM

Mad_Radhu: I'm sorry, but you have to be a cheap ass bastard to pirate music these days. I've been able to get just about every new release I've wanted lately for $4 at Amazon MP3, to the point that I almost don't have time to listen to all the new stuff I buy. When a new album is less than a drink at Starbuck's you really can't complain about music being too expensive anymore.


I use torrenting to timeshift TV in a usable manner, no commercials and I can stream it to my Xbox.
 
2012-11-22 10:48:32 PM

styckx: Girion47: styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.

Having a private tracker is also a great protection against that.

Agreed, but also 99% of private trackers are a pita to get on.. I have my iptorrents account which I only grabbed cause I donated and it suites my needs. The seedbox easily let me amass a massive ratio and saves me bandwidth and keeps Comcast off my asshole. I don't have time nor the patience to sit and be interviewed and send in my torrent client resume to hopefully get an invite to some other bullshiat private tracker.


Do you want an invite to the tracker I'm on? All they require is a 1:1 ratio at minimum. You can donate for bandwidth, but that's the only cost and it's optional.
 
2012-11-22 11:15:25 PM

Girion47: Mad_Radhu: I'm sorry, but you have to be a cheap ass bastard to pirate music these days. I've been able to get just about every new release I've wanted lately for $4 at Amazon MP3, to the point that I almost don't have time to listen to all the new stuff I buy. When a new album is less than a drink at Starbuck's you really can't complain about music being too expensive anymore.

I use torrenting to timeshift TV in a usable manner, no commercials and I can stream it to my Xbox.


That actually makes sense to me, since services like Hulu are still really spotty about having all the shows available. With music, however, there are just so many cheap ways to get it these days that it just doesn't seem like it is even worth the effort to try to pirate it. Back in the day I used to rationalize it by saying that I was "sampling" the music, but these days there is Spotify, so even that excuse is a cop out.
 
2012-11-22 11:32:00 PM

kim jong-un: Hacker_X: styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.

Overkill. They go after soft targets and people who fall for honeypot trackers. Enabling encryption should only take a minute or so and do the trick. Of course a seedbox does take care of the fact that most people have a pitiful amount of upstream bandwidth.

You think encryption protects you from that? All it does is block ISP throttling.


Somehow when I was typing I left off the "and a blocklist" after encryption and before should. Yeah, it isn't perfect, but like I said. They go after what they can grab easy.

A lot of people illegally grab stuff they can't afford to buy (or can't afford to buy all of) so paying for a VPN service or a seed box every month isn't going to be an option. You can run torrents through TOR for free but it is frowned on because of all the extra load it puts on the nodes.
 
2012-11-22 11:55:32 PM
Nice one subs....+1 Pots O' Honey
 
2012-11-23 12:06:24 AM
Rules are rules, of course, but taking away a child's laptop over a couple of failed torrents seems a little draconian. So far nobody's apologid to the family-do you think they should?
Well considering that if they are FAILED torrents, there is a good chance that there is not a complete song on the entire computer, therefore not actual copyright infringement, just intent, I'd say yeah, someone should have "apologid". Not actually sure if this has even been covered yet. Think of it, it's not copyright infringement if you don't have the actual copyrighted material, and half the song isn't 'the song'...

This loophole will probably be closed by tomorrow, but I wonder how many other people have been busted when they don't have the file in question. Especially if it happens to be an album in a compressed singe-file format, meaning that if they don't have the entire successful download, then none of the songs are salvageable...
 
2012-11-23 12:12:29 AM
What a Finnish SWAT team and vehicles may look like.

i211.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-23 12:13:11 AM

styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.


OK, I've been through it all over the years with different downloading methods, started out in '99 or so, and was using the warez sites, moved on to ftp shares, Limewire, all of that. I don't d/l much anymore, and I make sure to kill it as soon as it's completed, so I've only gotten 2 or 3 notices in 13 years. Never heard of the seedbox idea, or the VPN idea. I've heard of people using proxy servers and stuff, but the seedbox thing raises a few questions. The biggest one is how this would work, since you're still using the same IP to connect with your ISP. I also don't see how you could use it at work(As one tutorial suggests) if they choose to block P2P stuff. I'm not looking to use it at work, I'm just curious exactly what it does to more or less anonymize you. The things i'm finding are for you setting up and doing it on yur regular home network, as opposed to buying some kind of server space, am I reading this right?
 
2012-11-23 12:15:18 AM

Girion47: styckx: Girion47: styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.

Having a private tracker is also a great protection against that.

Agreed, but also 99% of private trackers are a pita to get on.. I have my iptorrents account which I only grabbed cause I donated and it suites my needs. The seedbox easily let me amass a massive ratio and saves me bandwidth and keeps Comcast off my asshole. I don't have time nor the patience to sit and be interviewed and send in my torrent client resume to hopefully get an invite to some other bullshiat private tracker.

Do you want an invite to the tracker I'm on? All they require is a 1:1 ratio at minimum. You can donate for bandwidth, but that's the only cost and it's optional.


Anyone who sets a minimum ratio of 1:1 fails basic math. That's not sustainable, especially since many people try to pad their ratios and get over 2:1.
 
2012-11-23 12:20:03 AM

HotWingAgenda: I thought it was common knowledge that Pirate Bay is heavily monitored, and probably infiltrated by the RIAA.


Not sure why that would matter, the torrents on there aren't exclusive to TPB. Many times, when I've had a particular download stopped, and tried to go elsewhere, even if the torrent is a slightly different name, it will be the same torrent as TPB, but might have more trackers. So either TPB is just linking to the same torrents, which would mean that monitoring wouldn't do anything that monitoring any other site would, or all of the other sites are just re-linking TPB, which means that going elsewhere wouldn't have saved her any headache.
 
2012-11-23 12:40:29 AM

Bisu: Girion47: styckx: Girion47: styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.

Having a private tracker is also a great protection against that.

Agreed, but also 99% of private trackers are a pita to get on.. I have my iptorrents account which I only grabbed cause I donated and it suites my needs. The seedbox easily let me amass a massive ratio and saves me bandwidth and keeps Comcast off my asshole. I don't have time nor the patience to sit and be interviewed and send in my torrent client resume to hopefully get an invite to some other bullshiat private tracker.

Do you want an invite to the tracker I'm on? All they require is a 1:1 ratio at minimum. You can donate for bandwidth, but that's the only cost and it's optional.

Anyone who sets a minimum ratio of 1:1 fails basic math. That's not sustainable, especially since many people try to pad their ratios and get over 2:1.


It's worked for 7 years so far.
 
Esn
2012-11-23 12:41:18 AM
Exhibit A in why you should have somebody on staff who understands public relations.
 
2012-11-23 01:42:27 AM
"What's it going to be, Daddy? Buy me that $10 album or pay $600?"
 
2012-11-23 03:07:19 AM

Mikey1969: styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.

OK, I've been through it all over the years with different downloading methods, started out in '99 or so, and was using the warez sites, moved on to ftp shares, Limewire, all of that. I don't d/l much anymore, and I make sure to kill it as soon as it's completed, so I've only gotten 2 or 3 notices in 13 years. Never heard of the seedbox idea, or the VPN idea. I've heard of people using proxy servers and stuff, but the seedbox thing raises a few questions. The biggest one is how this would work, since you're still using the same IP to connect with your ISP. I also don't see how you could use it at work(As one tutorial suggests) if they choose to block P2P stuff. I'm not looking to use it at work, I'm just curious exactly what it does to more or less anonymize you. The things i'm finding are for you setting up and doing it on yur regular home network, as opposed to buying some kind of server space, am I reading this right?


Seedbox is a massive server sitting somewhere overseas running rtorrent that you access via your web browser.. So what you do is go to your favorite site and just download the .torrent file itself or copy the link url to the .torrent file of your favorite software.. Then you go to your seedbox rtorrent client and upload the torrent file to the client or paste the torrent url.. Pick your poison.. That server overseas now does all the dirty work of actually downloading it and seeding (at massive un-metered speeds). Once done you simply connect to that same server via a TLS Encrypted FTP connection and grab your file the good old fashion way without your PC connecting to a single seed or peer.. And you can just let your torrents sit there and seed for as long as you want.



i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-23 03:14:16 AM

Girion47: styckx: Girion47: styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.

Having a private tracker is also a great protection against that.

Agreed, but also 99% of private trackers are a pita to get on.. I have my iptorrents account which I only grabbed cause I donated and it suites my needs. The seedbox easily let me amass a massive ratio and saves me bandwidth and keeps Comcast off my asshole. I don't have time nor the patience to sit and be interviewed and send in my torrent client resume to hopefully get an invite to some other bullshiat private tracker.

Do you want an invite to the tracker I'm on? All they require is a 1:1 ratio at minimum. You can donate for bandwidth, but that's the only cost and it's optional.


my name at gmail.. That would be great thanks!
 
2012-11-23 03:16:37 AM

Esn: Exhibit A in why you should have somebody on staff who understands public relations.


I expect the police do have someone who understands.
 
2012-11-23 06:30:27 AM
I love how trusting everyone is being. How many of you are working for the RIAA, MPAA or police, I wonder?
 
2012-11-23 08:35:12 AM
Locking up ideas a s property is just as much a form of censorship as suppressing them. Copyright is a bad idea incompatible with free expression whose time has passed.
 
2012-11-23 11:28:24 AM
FTA: "they instead purchased a CD from a local store"

If they purchased a hard-copy, an electronic 'back-up' copy is entirely legal, in the EU anyway. For some reason methinks there's more to this story...
 
2012-11-23 11:30:10 AM

styckx: Mikey1969: styckx: If you're torrenting and don't use a seedbox or VPN at this point.. Well.. Yeah I don't feel sorry for you if you get caught or your inbox fills up with 300 unread stearnly written letters from your ISP.

OK, I've been through it all over the years with different downloading methods, started out in '99 or so, and was using the warez sites, moved on to ftp shares, Limewire, all of that. I don't d/l much anymore, and I make sure to kill it as soon as it's completed, so I've only gotten 2 or 3 notices in 13 years. Never heard of the seedbox idea, or the VPN idea. I've heard of people using proxy servers and stuff, but the seedbox thing raises a few questions. The biggest one is how this would work, since you're still using the same IP to connect with your ISP. I also don't see how you could use it at work(As one tutorial suggests) if they choose to block P2P stuff. I'm not looking to use it at work, I'm just curious exactly what it does to more or less anonymize you. The things i'm finding are for you setting up and doing it on yur regular home network, as opposed to buying some kind of server space, am I reading this right?

Seedbox is a massive server sitting somewhere overseas running rtorrent that you access via your web browser.. So what you do is go to your favorite site and just download the .torrent file itself or copy the link url to the .torrent file of your favorite software.. Then you go to your seedbox rtorrent client and upload the torrent file to the client or paste the torrent url.. Pick your poison.. That server overseas now does all the dirty work of actually downloading it and seeding (at massive un-metered speeds). Once done you simply connect to that same server via a TLS Encrypted FTP connection and grab your file the good old fashion way without your PC connecting to a single seed or peer.. And you can just let your torrents sit there and seed for as long as you want.



[i.imgur.com image 457x130]


I'm so totally not taking notes and asking you for your newsletter.
 
2012-11-23 12:08:52 PM

jaspyrnyte: I love how trusting everyone is being. How many of you are working for the RIAA, MPAA or police, I wonder?


Trusting? Hardly any information about shiat was given out here. Go to reddit or any other place that dedicates a forum specifically to torrenting and the discussion here will look like a bunch of men talking about our favorite cake recipe.
 
2012-11-23 01:51:18 PM

groovykindahate: FTA: "they instead purchased a CD from a local store"

If they purchased a hard-copy, an electronic 'back-up' copy is entirely legal, in the EU anyway. For some reason methinks there's more to this story...


True, although the format-shifting-by-proxy argument has never been tested in court. Nonetheless, that wouldn't help them - they were also uploading. The right to make a backup copy doesn't include the right to distribute that back up copy to others.
 
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