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2012-11-22 08:19:03 PM

Bippal: Aar1012: The Beatles are overrated

I've never personally said I thought they are overrated, but I've never thought of them as highly as the rest of the world. It's always gotten me shiat. I like some of their stuff a lot, but I've never owned more than a few songs. Never used it as a point of cool or hipness. Just the truth. Everyone should be allowed to like what they like. The stones I do not like however


That's the thing. They are, by definition, overrated. They're good, yes, but for the huge regard that people have then they are overrated. I like about three songs by the Beatles....but they are overrated
 
2012-11-22 08:27:19 PM
Must suck to be the guy who passed up the Beatles in favor of signing The Tremeloes.
 
2012-11-22 08:30:54 PM

Aar1012: I like about three songs by the Beatles....but they are overrated


Your opinion of them is irrelevant. Their songwriting ability is most certainly not overrated, and their contribution and influence on all types of music since their arrival cannot be overstated. Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's just the way it is. I'm not all that wild about most of their stuff, but you need to be able to see beyond your own taste, and look at their abilities and resulting influence.
 
2012-11-22 08:44:59 PM
There have been gray-market releases, not just bootlegs.

In fact, "BSR-1111", as written on that sheet, is the catalog number for one of them, a 1982 release on Backstage Records called "Silver Beatles", which makes sense since that was no longer the name of the band by the time they auditioned for Decca.
 
2012-11-22 08:46:04 PM

Aar1012: Bippal: Aar1012: The Beatles are overrated

I've never personally said I thought they are overrated, but I've never thought of them as highly as the rest of the world. It's always gotten me shiat. I like some of their stuff a lot, but I've never owned more than a few songs. Never used it as a point of cool or hipness. Just the truth. Everyone should be allowed to like what they like. The stones I do not like however

That's the thing. They are, by definition, overrated. They're good, yes, but for the huge regard that people have then they are overrated. I like about three songs by the Beatles....but they are overrated


I don't get the whole overrated thing. I understand that people might not like the music, but how can a band who was hugely influential on other artists of their era and continue to be influential to a more or lesser degree today be considered overrated? They didn't invent rock music, but after their pop group phase, they did a lot to move rock music forward.

And trust me, I get annoyed at rabid Beatle fans too. This despite being a big Beatles fan myself.
 
2012-11-22 09:10:00 PM

jonohull: styckx: Serious question. It has always been said that magnetic tape has a relatively short life expectancy. Yet, here we have a roll of it and "and the sound quality on it is said to be pristine".. I just did some Google-Fu and while no official test has ever been done the general thought it 30 years is the very upper limit of the life expectancy of magnetic tape.

This isn't the first time I've ever read about old as shiat magnetic tape still being pristine and playable.. Are all the experts wrong or is something else missing from the equation here that this shiat seems to last a lot longer than anyone will actually tell you?

Tapes in the right humidity and temperature can last indefinitely. The tapes go bad because of the glue holding the magnetic material on. It degrades and the iron oxide flakes off.

Tapes in poor condition can be made to play one more time to get the information off by baking them in an oven right before playback. You just better have your tape deck calibrated correctly.


The particular tape material some companies used in the late 70s and early 80s has a habit of going "soft" which baking will also fix. I'd assume most masters from that era have been duped to protect them.

The Beatles masters and session tapes are all stored in a bomb-proof bunker in rural England, and it wouldn't surprise me if they're not kept in a nitrogen atmosphere to protect them. When Mark Lewisohn was researching his book on the Beatles recording session, he'd tell them what tapes he wanted to hear and the next day they were delivered to Abbey Road, so there were never more than a couple reels out of the vault at any one time.

/really recommend that book to any rock fan.
 
2012-11-22 09:16:06 PM

Some Bass Playing Guy: but how can a band who was hugely influential on other artists of their era and continue to be influential to a more or lesser degree today be considered overrated?


After Bubble Gum Pop Band #35, Non-Threatening Boy Band #62, Not-punk 'Punk' Grrrrl Band #7, and Teenage Idol #94, I think it's time for something that is actually new to come out. It's over played and overrated
 
2012-11-22 09:40:13 PM
Ringo: This Yoko Ono Biatch is such a ****.

George: You said it, man. Where does she get off? What a ****!

Paul: And trying to break up the greatest band in the world? Maybe we didn't have the greatest fundamentals but we were the ****ing best ****ing band in he world and then this **** comes along and busts our chops! What a total mingey ****!

John: Guys! Do you mind? She's right here in the studio?

Paul: Really? I didn't see the ****. Who let this **** into the studio?

Yoko Ono: Just for that I'm not going to let any company named Apple sell your music when John is dead.

George: Lord Thundering Jebus, man! You didn't give the **** your rights?

John: No, don't be stupid. But she is going to be my widow some day and she'll inherit my fortune until the kids are old enough to sue on their own behalf.

Ringo: What a stupid ****!

All: Ringo!

Ringo: Hey, I only got one line! Besides, face it. John IS a stupid ****.
 
2012-11-22 09:47:03 PM
Wait, I already saw this episode of The Single Guy. Same bought the tape at a garage sale and hilarity ensued.
 
2012-11-22 09:47:51 PM
Sam bought it, I meant.
 
2012-11-22 10:30:32 PM

Aar1012: Bippal: Aar1012: The Beatles are overrated

I've never personally said I thought they are overrated, but I've never thought of them as highly as the rest of the world. It's always gotten me shiat. I like some of their stuff a lot, but I've never owned more than a few songs. Never used it as a point of cool or hipness. Just the truth. Everyone should be allowed to like what they like. The stones I do not like however

That's the thing. They are, by definition, overrated. They're good, yes, but for the huge regard that people have then they are overrated. I like about three songs by the Beatles....but they are overrated


I agree with you. They ain't no Bieber, that's for sure.
 
2012-11-22 10:36:44 PM

styckx: Serious question. It has always been said that magnetic tape has a relatively short life expectancy. Yet, here we have a roll of it and "and the sound quality on it is said to be pristine".. I just did some Google-Fu and while no official test has ever been done the general thought it 30 years is the very upper limit of the life expectancy of magnetic tape.

This isn't the first time I've ever read about old as shiat magnetic tape still being pristine and playable.. Are all the experts wrong or is something else missing from the equation here that this shiat seems to last a lot longer than anyone will actually tell you?



1) depends on how/where stored. relatively humidity free environmnet, free from light and heat, they're probably good for awhile.

2) as noted above, baking the tapes can help "re-adhesiveize" the magnetic data to the substrate.

3) huge beatles fan....yeah, all the songs showed up elsewhere. But this is THE AUDITION. If it goes their way, who knows if they don't flame out in no time and are never heard from again or become, you know, Freedy Garrity and the Dreamers or whatever. a hugely pivotal moment, whatever warts may exist, for Western music.
 
2012-11-22 10:43:50 PM
Cool thing about the Beatles is the historical context. Western culture changed a lot during the sixties, and rather than continuing to put out the same kind of music for a decade, they changed up their sound. And did a good job. Sure, other bands have done it, and there's still some around that do, but now it's all accompanied by a flurry of so-called experts weighing in on how much this will alienate an artist's fanbase, then creaming themselves over the prospect of "a return to their classic sound".

Anyway, that's how you get all these people saying they just like a couple of their songs - some people don't like three-chords-meets-girl pop, psychedelic hard rock, piano ballads, eight-minute sitar songs, bluesy acoustics, snarky protest songs, and perky songs about sheepdogs or serial klllers or whatever Paul was into that week. That's all.
 
2012-11-22 10:44:42 PM

GungFu: styckx: Serious question. It has always been said that magnetic tape has a relatively short life expectancy. Yet, here we have a roll of it and "and the sound quality on it is said to be pristine".. I just did some Google-Fu and while no official test has ever been done the general thought it 30 years is the very upper limit of the life expectancy of magnetic tape.

This isn't the first time I've ever read about old as shiat magnetic tape still being pristine and playable.. Are all the experts wrong or is something else missing from the equation here that this shiat seems to last a lot longer than anyone will actually tell you?


Spotted your problem right there. Heard it was generally the opposite. Look after it well - cool, dark environment - and it'll last for several decades. I still have vhs tapes from the 80s that play as well as the last day I recorded shiat on it. 

I'd be more comfortable putting my precious materials on tape if possible. Dvds are always a disaster waiting to happen.


= ?
 
2012-11-22 11:09:46 PM

Staffist: GungFu: styckx: Serious question. It has always been said that magnetic tape has a relatively short life expectancy. Yet, here we have a roll of it and "and the sound quality on it is said to be pristine".. I just did some Google-Fu and while no official test has ever been done the general thought it 30 years is the very upper limit of the life expectancy of magnetic tape.

This isn't the first time I've ever read about old as shiat magnetic tape still being pristine and playable.. Are all the experts wrong or is something else missing from the equation here that this shiat seems to last a lot longer than anyone will actually tell you?


Spotted your problem right there. Heard it was generally the opposite. Look after it well - cool, dark environment - and it'll last for several decades. I still have vhs tapes from the 80s that play as well as the last day I recorded shiat on it. 

I'd be more comfortable putting my precious materials on tape if possible. Dvds are always a disaster waiting to happen.

= ?


yeah that cracked me up
 
2012-11-22 11:40:24 PM

styckx: Serious question. It has always been said that magnetic tape has a relatively short life expectancy. Yet, here we have a roll of it and "and the sound quality on it is said to be pristine".. I just did some Google-Fu and while no official test has ever been done the general thought it 30 years is the very upper limit of the life expectancy of magnetic tape.

This isn't the first time I've ever read about old as shiat magnetic tape still being pristine and playable.. Are all the experts wrong or is something else missing from the equation here that this shiat seems to last a lot longer than anyone will actually tell you?


The audio on magnetic tape is coded in iron oxide particles, which tend to re-arrange themselves slightly with every play through. The tape itself is also subject to decay over time if not properly taken care of. Recordings made on magnetic tape, in a normal setting, aren't going to last long... it'll either be played to death or come to some other kind of harm via exposure.
A demo that was played a half dozen times then locked in a drawer somewhere, never again to see the light of day, would stay in that condition indefinitely. Basically, magnetic tape doesn't naturally break down over time, but it is exceedingly fragile.
 
2012-11-23 12:53:57 AM

bearinews: This is probably a back up of the master. Ray Dolby invented dolby while working for ampex in 1965. So this is really an early bootleg. Good luck on that auction, oh yea about that buyer.....


^THIS^
 
2012-11-23 01:27:20 AM

Xyzzyka: Cool thing about the Beatles is the historical context. Western culture changed a lot during the sixties, and rather than continuing to put out the same kind of music for a decade, they changed up their sound. And did a good job. Sure, other bands have done it, and there's still some around that do, but now it's all accompanied by a flurry of so-called experts weighing in on how much this will alienate an artist's fanbase, then creaming themselves over the prospect of "a return to their classic sound".

Anyway, that's how you get all these people saying they just like a couple of their songs - some people don't like three-chords-meets-girl pop, psychedelic hard rock, piano ballads, eight-minute sitar songs, bluesy acoustics, snarky protest songs, and perky songs about sheepdogs or serial klllers or whatever Paul was into that week. That's all.


yeah the early beatles stuff reminds me of sunday car trips to church as a kid (breakfast with the beatles for any chicago area folks).

i have no strong feelings about their reputation either way, but i'll occasionally spin 'tomorrow never knows' if i'm high

admittedly, my perspective would be different if i had grown up during the height of their popularity.
 
2012-11-23 02:18:21 AM
I'd rather have Carnival of Light see official release. Sure it's probably a train wreck, but I'm still kinda interested.

I'm a huge Beatles fan, but I honestly think Frank Zappa, The Kinks, and The Kingsmen all had an equal impact on music. Frank Zappa especially. What sounded like Freak Out! in 1966?
 
2012-11-23 03:20:18 AM

midigod: Aar1012: I like about three songs by the Beatles....but they are overrated

... Their songwriting ability is most certainly not overrated, and their contribution and influence on all types of music since their arrival cannot be overstated...



"I got a problem solver, and it's name is Revolver."
 
2012-11-23 03:56:08 AM
If Paul McCartney wants to try boogie woogie, you got the piano on Lady Madonna.
If Paul McCartney wants to try 20s ballroom, you get Honey Pie.
If Paul McCartney just does nothing, Yesterday comes to him in five minutes and he has to ask his patent lawyer if it's original or if he's remembering someone else's work.
 
2012-11-23 04:03:29 AM

rhiannon: Aar1012: Bippal: Aar1012: The Beatles are overrated

I've never personally said I thought they are overrated, but I've never thought of them as highly as the rest of the world. It's always gotten me shiat. I like some of their stuff a lot, but I've never owned more than a few songs. Never used it as a point of cool or hipness. Just the truth. Everyone should be allowed to like what they like. The stones I do not like however

That's the thing. They are, by definition, overrated. They're good, yes, but for the huge regard that people have then they are overrated. I like about three songs by the Beatles....but they are overrated

I agree with you. They ain't no Bieber, that's for sure.


Beatles > Bieber!!!
 
2012-11-23 04:43:59 AM

DownDaRiver: Dear Beatles Fans

The Beatles suck


Realist


/You're welcome...
 
2012-11-23 07:08:29 AM
The Beatles never did anything of importance until Yoko came along and showed them how to make good music.
 
2012-11-23 08:11:29 AM

Kevin72: If Paul McCartney wants to try boogie woogie, you got the piano on Lady Madonna.
If Paul McCartney wants to try 20s ballroom, you get Honey Pie.
If Paul McCartney just does nothing, Yesterday comes to him in five minutes and he has to ask his patent lawyer if it's original or if he's remembering someone else's work.


I think of Lady Madonna as Paul trying to write a Fats Domino song (Fats did cover it), like how I'm Down is Paul writing a Little Richard song.
 
2012-11-23 08:20:28 AM
Its always enjoyable to read here how the Beatles suck/are overrated/old, therefore irrelevant from such notable, and respected authorities as Krispykritter, and ari1015 or whatever. You guys truly convey how the world SHOULD regard that band. Please keep up the good work. Your accomplishments, and opinions will someday most assuredly sway the thus far ignorant masses. How could it not? For you are krispykritter, and ari1055, or whatever, of the internet.
 
2012-11-23 08:36:35 AM

PowerSlacker: I thought all of the fans of the Beatles had died of old age by now.


Sorry for the error.


Dude, I'm 23 and the Beatles were the first band I really got into somewhere around middle school. I then went to U2, Johnny Cash and Ray Charles, among others, but the Beatles are always going to be one of my favorite bands to listen to.

People are going to make that same comment about Nickelback 20 years from now and we're gonna have some stupid little bastard think they're the greatest having discovered them when they were 12.

/shudder
 
2012-11-23 09:31:53 AM

Aar1012: After Bubble Gum Pop Band #35, Non-Threatening Boy Band #62, Not-punk 'Punk' Grrrrl Band #7, and Teenage Idol #94, I think it's time for something that is actually new to come out. It's over played and overrated


If that's all you hear of the Beatles' influence on modern music then you're frankly offering your position from a place of ignorance, and that pretty much renders it worth ignoring.

And I don't say that as a Beatles bullet-taker, either. It's just that you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
 
2012-11-23 10:17:31 AM

shoegaze99: Aar1012: After Bubble Gum Pop Band #35, Non-Threatening Boy Band #62, Not-punk 'Punk' Grrrrl Band #7, and Teenage Idol #94, I think it's time for something that is actually new to come out. It's over played and overrated

If that's all you hear of the Beatles' influence on modern music then you're frankly offering your position from a place of ignorance, and that pretty much renders it worth ignoring.

And I don't say that as a Beatles bullet-taker, either. It's just that you clearly don't know what you're talking about.


The amount of people who jumped at my statement proves that they're overrated. It's not that you can point out my flaw. It's that I'm automatically wrong because the Beatles are the best thing since sliced bread

They're not and for a large people to equate that when the truth is the opposite shows that they've been rated higher than what they are.

Again, they're good...but not the music messiahs that people make them out to be
 
2012-11-23 10:37:17 AM

DownDaRiver: PowerSlacker: I thought all of the fans of the Beatles had died of old age by now.


Sorry for the error.

I'm a Stones fan
Wanna start something?


I'm in as I'm both a Beatles AND Stones fan.

/more Beatles than Stones
//but both equally great
 
2012-11-23 10:38:29 AM

Aar1012: The Beatles are overrated


Must be fan of Nickleback...
 
2012-11-23 10:40:02 AM

Aar1012: Some Bass Playing Guy: but how can a band who was hugely influential on other artists of their era and continue to be influential to a more or lesser degree today be considered overrated?

After Bubble Gum Pop Band #35, Non-Threatening Boy Band #62, Not-punk 'Punk' Grrrrl Band #7, and Teenage Idol #94, I think it's time for something that is actually new to come out. It's over played and overrated


So you basically never heard anything after "Revolver" right?
 
2012-11-23 10:41:23 AM

RDixon: The Beatles never did anything of importance until Yoko came along and showed them how to make good music.


7/10; you made twitch with that one. Well done.
 
2012-11-23 10:52:48 AM

Aar1012: shoegaze99: Aar1012: After Bubble Gum Pop Band #35, Non-Threatening Boy Band #62, Not-punk 'Punk' Grrrrl Band #7, and Teenage Idol #94, I think it's time for something that is actually new to come out. It's over played and overrated

If that's all you hear of the Beatles' influence on modern music then you're frankly offering your position from a place of ignorance, and that pretty much renders it worth ignoring.

And I don't say that as a Beatles bullet-taker, either. It's just that you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The amount of people who jumped at my statement proves that they're overrated.


FYI: Your ignorance of what the Beatles' influence to music was summed up in the reference I put in bold. If you had heard their entire catalog and came up with that assessment, then I'd say "that your opinion" and walk away from it. Since you admitted your ignorance to what the Beatles' influence was in that prior statement, you deserve to be called ignorant.

Are the Beatles' overrated? Well, probably; it's one thing if you've heard the entire catalog and came away less than impressed. It's another when you cherry-pick and then come up with your assessment.
 
2012-11-23 10:54:28 AM

styckx: Serious question. It has always been said that magnetic tape has a relatively short life expectancy. Yet, here we have a roll of it and "and the sound quality on it is said to be pristine".. I just did some Google-Fu and while no official test has ever been done the general thought it 30 years is the very upper limit of the life expectancy of magnetic tape.

This isn't the first time I've ever read about old as shiat magnetic tape still being pristine and playable.. Are all the experts wrong or is something else missing from the equation here that this shiat seems to last a lot longer than anyone will actually tell you?


In 2000 my daughter found a 7" reel to reel officialy released copy of Sgt Pepper at a garage sale. Before 8 track and cassettes they would also release the album on reel tape. Album art and all.
And when played, it sounded like it was just recorded. Even my 40yr old recordings sound fresh. Nicest Christmas present ever.
Coincidently, today is her birthday.
Happy Birthday sweetheart!
Csb

/oh yeah, lifespan I guess is just speculation...
 
2012-11-23 11:02:18 AM

wiseolddude: If Decca had signed The Beatles, there would not have been George Martin. He was very instrumental in their sound. They would have sounded much different, so it is impossible to know how big they would have been.


And George Martin never would've had the opputunity to contribute to produce great albums or artists.
Off the top of my head, Jeff Beck-Blow by Blow.
 
2012-11-23 11:03:28 AM

Hoopy Frood: Kevin72: If Paul McCartney wants to try boogie woogie, you got the piano on Lady Madonna.
If Paul McCartney wants to try 20s ballroom, you get Honey Pie.
If Paul McCartney just does nothing, Yesterday comes to him in five minutes and he has to ask his patent lawyer if it's original or if he's remembering someone else's work.

I think of Lady Madonna as Paul trying to write a Fats Domino song (Fats did cover it), like how I'm Down is Paul writing a Little Richard song.


That is double awesome! When one's source of inspiration is inspired by you it goes full circle.

/off to check YouTube for the Fats Domino version.
 
2012-11-23 11:03:40 AM

Aar1012: It's not that you can point out my flaw.


Of course I can. And I can explain it in great detail. But here's the thing. Even if I thought it would be worthwhile to explain just why your very limited view is rooted in a great deal of musical ignorance -- and given the nature of your statement above I'm not sure it would be worthwhile, because it betrays an unwillingness to see past your own bias -- comments like this only underscore the idea that trying to talk to you about it would be a waste of time:

It's that I'm automatically wrong because the Beatles are the best thing since sliced bread

You're just a victim of Beatles fanaticism, a lone voice of reason screaming against the brainwashed masses, etc etc etc.

You don't have any interest in actually discussing the music. Not really. That is abundantly clear, and that's why no one wants to take the time to correct your ignorance in detail.

And again, I'm not saying that as a Beatles bullet-taker. I'm certainly not. What I am is someone who recognizes their importance in the musical landscape, even right to the current day, and who recognizes that "hur hur hur pop musik" is a silly, reductionist, and ignorant view. Ignorance can be corrected ... but you make very clear that you don't want your ignorance corrected. You just like being That Guy,

Cool. Enjoy being him.
 
2012-11-23 11:08:36 AM

shoegaze99: Cool. Enjoy being him.


They did leave an important mark....and now it's been used to the point that it's time for something new.
 
2012-11-23 11:13:02 AM

CZMisfitsFan: I'd rather have Carnival of Light see official release. Sure it's probably a train wreck, but I'm still kinda interested.

I'm a huge Beatles fan, but I honestly think Frank Zappa, The Kinks, and The Kingsmen all had an equal impact on music. Frank Zappa especially. What sounded like Freak Out! in 1966?


I enjoyed listening to it when released.
Heard some of it recently.
LSD is a helluva drug.
 
2012-11-23 11:13:29 AM

shoegaze99: Aar1012: It's not that you can point out my flaw.

Of course I can. And I can explain it in great detail. But here's the thing. Even if I thought it would be worthwhile to explain just why your very limited view is rooted in a great deal of musical ignorance -- and given the nature of your statement above I'm not sure it would be worthwhile, because it betrays an unwillingness to see past your own bias -- comments like this only underscore the idea that trying to talk to you about it would be a waste of time:

It's that I'm automatically wrong because the Beatles are the best thing since sliced bread

You're just a victim of Beatles fanaticism, a lone voice of reason screaming against the brainwashed masses, etc etc etc.

You don't have any interest in actually discussing the music. Not really. That is abundantly clear, and that's why no one wants to take the time to correct your ignorance in detail.

And again, I'm not saying that as a Beatles bullet-taker. I'm certainly not. What I am is someone who recognizes their importance in the musical landscape, even right to the current day, and who recognizes that "hur hur hur pop musik" is a silly, reductionist, and ignorant view. Ignorance can be corrected ... but you make very clear that you don't want your ignorance corrected. You just like being That Guy,

Cool. Enjoy being him.


Those who have come before me have often told me that the Beatles are responsible for rock albums being made the way they are. You know, bands that concentrate on the album as a whole more than producing hit singles. I believe them because they were around at the time. Now even if the Beatles music was/is terrible ( I don't think it is) this idea that they changed the way music was recorded/marketed seems like a pretty big thing and an accomplishment that would be very hard to over-rate in my estimation.
 
2012-11-23 11:21:03 AM
Reminds me of Catcher in the Rye. The younger you caught it, the more you loved it. If you don't catch it until college age you'll be all #!@&$. I was 8 when Beatlemania struck in 1964. The influence on youth culture is such that we 8 year olds stopped buying baseball cards and started collecting Beatles cards. Playtime was emulating the Beatles. When it was my turn to be Ringo, a friend said "use these to be the cymbals" I was all ???????? "What do we need symbols for"
 
2012-11-23 11:31:47 AM

Aar1012: Bippal: Aar1012: The Beatles are overrated

I've never personally said I thought they are overrated, but I've never thought of them as highly as the rest of the world. It's always gotten me shiat. I like some of their stuff a lot, but I've never owned more than a few songs. Never used it as a point of cool or hipness. Just the truth. Everyone should be allowed to like what they like. The stones I do not like however

That's the thing. They are, by definition, overrated. They're good, yes, but for the huge regard that people have then they are overrated. I like about three songs by the Beatles....but they are overrated


You sound like the 3rd grader who told me that he heard that the Japanese bombed the buildings in New York.
 
2012-11-23 12:19:36 PM
oblig for every Beatles/Boomers thread:

scoutmaster.typepad.com
 
2012-11-23 02:39:16 PM

CZMisfitsFan: I'd rather have Carnival of Light see official release. Sure it's probably a train wreck, but I'm still kinda interested.

I'm a huge Beatles fan, but I honestly think Frank Zappa, The Kinks, and The Kingsmen all had an equal impact on music. Frank Zappa especially. What sounded like Freak Out! in 1966?


Yeah I find it hard to believe Arthur came out the same year as Abbey Road
 
2012-11-23 02:40:19 PM

Bag of Hammers: oblig for every Beatles/Boomers thread:

[scoutmaster.typepad.com image 550x731]


I was 18 when I got into the Beatles and half of them were dead by then
 
2012-11-23 02:55:23 PM

moothemagiccow: I was 18 when I got into the Beatles and half of them were dead by then


Same. They were well before my time. Broke up before I was born. And when I was first exposed to them I didn't even like them, in part because I was tired of hearing about how good they were and thought it was "edgy" to be anti-Beatles.

When the music I listened to stopped being some sort of badge or identity and instead just became something I appreciated, I finally gave them a fair shake and realized how dumb I'd been by just dismissing them out of hand. I came to appreciate the Beatles after I learned to fully appreciate music rather than the other way around.
 
2012-11-23 03:14:03 PM
Heh- "SURE TO FAIL."

I've heard a lot of these before.
 
2012-11-23 03:25:02 PM
In other news, Ringo called Pete Best to laugh at him.
 
2012-11-23 08:05:01 PM

Aar1012: The Beatles are overrated


SERIOUSLY farking overrated. It's been 50 years, morans. Buy a new record already.

And you can shove your 'influence' argument up your ass. Without the farking Beatles,
there would still be pop music, and it wouldn't be appreciably different that what you're hearing in this timeline you hippie dipshiat boomer-fellating farks.
 
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