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(Slate)   Facebook to stop being a democracy and start being a dictatorship. In other news, Facebook is taken way too seriously by people   (mobile.slate.com) divider line 42
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2012-11-22 01:05:34 PM
It is now a public service a kin to the telephone and the postal service.
 
2012-11-22 01:28:30 PM
The big issue is the one Mark Cuban and others are raising a stink about, which is the having to pay to send out messages to people who have "liked" you (or, at least to be able to reach all of them).

The issue I see with that is not really from the company side, but from the consumer side... Facebook has basically sold a set of goods that if you decide to "like" a business, that you'll be able to see the things they want to communicate to you. Now, you'll only get them if the company wants to pay to get it to you, otherwise, its a crapshoot.

I guess that had to be coming... otherwise, Facebook is just an always free version of "Constant Contact" type services.
 
2012-11-22 02:20:18 PM
I hate when people seriously use terms like "oppression", "dictatorship", and even "fascism" to talk about computers.

"It's oppression that can only get apps for an iPhone from Apple!" Yeah, I bet people in North Korean labor camps wish the worst oppression in their lives was no choice on where to get apps for their smartphones.

Something about taking about technology causes people to lose all sense of perspective. I think it's because, in the end, it's a fairly meaningless topic: really, what does it matter if you have an iPhone or an Android phone, a PC or a Mac. Who cares. And, like sports, it's one of those meaningless topics that, because of its lack of actual stakes, we feel free to get really passionate about.
 
2012-11-22 03:30:19 PM
In other news, Myspace, the once great nation that sank into the sea.
 
2012-11-22 03:33:36 PM
I'd be happy if they'd use ISO standards for dating posts so the sort function worked.
 
2012-11-22 03:38:35 PM
Considering that everyone you know including yourself (probably) is there, sharing some info or the other, it should be taken seriously.
 
2012-11-22 03:39:47 PM
"we found that the voting mechanism, which is triggered by a specific number of comments, actually resulted in a system that incentivized the quantity of comments over their quality. "

No one at Facebook paid any attention to their high school government classes.
 
2012-11-22 03:44:37 PM
reclaim their Facebook voting rights

Oh for f*ck's sake. It's a private company, not a constitutional republic. Hyperbole much?
 
2012-11-22 03:45:10 PM
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2012-11-22 03:45:28 PM
i'm just thrilled knowing many are going to inform us they have never had a FB account, they deactivated their FB account or something else about their not liking/using FB. wheeee!
 
2012-11-22 03:49:01 PM

KrispyKritter: i'm just thrilled knowing many are going to inform us they have never had a FB account, they deactivated their FB account or something else about their not liking/using FB. wheeee!


But... if you know it's going to happen and don't care for it, why are you here waiting for it to happen? =/
 
2012-11-22 03:50:33 PM
I lol'ed when I got the email from Facebook pointing me to pages upon pages of lawyer speak I should "review". Like seriously, who read any of that?
 
2012-11-22 03:54:12 PM

jake_lex: I hate when people seriously use terms like "oppression", "dictatorship", and even "fascism" to talk about computers.


For the record, the only person in the thread so far, or TFA, to use any of those words besides you was the submitter, who doesn't sound all that bothered by the prospect of a Facebook "dictatorship."

I mean, I know what you mean. And yet, things like Facebook get implicated in actual oppression all the time. If you don't believe me, zip on over to a Chinese internet cafe and see what you can learn about Falun Gong.

Does it matter what internet service is more or less likely to fork over my user data to the feds, when they come knocking without a warrant? Or to the P.I. my estranged spouse hires? Or to anyone willing to pay 0.006 cents for it, bundled together with a million other people's data-leavings? Sure it does. Not in the sense of getting sentenced to a North Korean labor camp, but these things can and do matter. Individually, they're not trivial. Collectively, they're EXTREMELY not trivial.

So by all means keep a sense of perspective. But where the internet is concerned, that sometimes means using exactly those words, or similar ones.
 
2012-11-22 03:54:19 PM
Facebook was holding elections before this? I was not aware.
 
2012-11-22 03:54:40 PM
Facebook was never a democracy.
 
2012-11-22 03:56:38 PM

KrispyKritter: i'm just thrilled knowing many are going to inform us they have never had a FB account, they deactivated their FB account or something else about their not liking/using FB. wheeee!


This. And then go on about how great Google's latest social network attempt is, and how Google respects privacy (despite the fact that Google recently started housing RIAA employees within it's HQ).

/Still loves Gmail and Google Maps.
//Not dumb enough to even consider storing an MP3 on Google Music that might have the same md5 as a copy available via torrents.
 
2012-11-22 04:04:07 PM

dletter: The big issue is the one Mark Cuban and others are raising a stink about, which is the having to pay to send out messages to people who have "liked" you (or, at least to be able to reach all of them).


You know that "free" thing? It's actually quite often a "Faust" thing. You invest in something that's free, then someone comes and collects, at which point, you're hooked in.

It's why I've avoided any connection with my business to Facebook. I'm not building something up that someone else controls.
 
2012-11-22 04:13:06 PM
Facebook is a friggin' loser magnet.
 
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2012-11-22 04:14:17 PM

KrispyKritter: i'm just thrilled knowing many are going to inform us they have never had a FB account, they deactivated their FB account or something else about their not liking/using FB. wheeee!


Sorry that others feel that your favorite social networking site is lacking worthiness.
 
2012-11-22 04:19:49 PM

digistil: KrispyKritter:
//Not dumb enough to even consider storing an MP3 on Google Music that might have the same md5 as a copy available via torrents.


^^ This.. I have 70GB of mp3s (all albums, no singles) and not a single one of them has ever graced Google Musics cloud.. It's the biggest obvious trap I've ever seen.
 
2012-11-22 04:20:10 PM
Stop it.
Just farking stop it.
 
2012-11-22 04:21:33 PM
Approves:
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2012-11-22 04:22:15 PM

Jake Havechek: Facebook is a friggin' loser magnet.


This comment doesn't explain your Fark account.
 
2012-11-22 04:32:25 PM
If you don't like it, no one is forcing to use it. There are many other sites out there that do the same thing better, so ditch Facebook just like everyone did to MySpace.
 
2012-11-22 04:40:17 PM

Jake Havechek: Facebook is a friggin' loser magnet.


Yep, the billion people on Facebook are all losers.

You and the few other people that proudly and loudly don't sue Facebook stand as the true hipsters, too cool and successful to use a website.
 
2012-11-22 04:41:13 PM

Karne: You and the few other people that proudly and loudly don't USE Facebook stand as the true hipsters, too cool and successful to use a website.


/fixed
 
2012-11-22 05:00:07 PM

Jake Havechek: Facebook is a friggin' loser magnet.


Everyone in the world is stupid but me.
 
2012-11-22 05:08:22 PM

Karne: Karne: You and the few other people that proudly and loudly don't USE Facebook stand as the true hipsters, too cool and successful to use a website.

/fixed


Or...y'know...don't feel comfortable being part of a system that utilizes facial recognition technology/data mining/etc. and would rather supplant it with email/phone/face to face conversations. Keep throwing that word around though, maybe it'll eventually stick.
 
2012-11-22 05:10:48 PM
Meh. Narcissistic people problems.
 
2012-11-22 05:13:40 PM

Tr0mBoNe: It is now a public service a kin to the telephone and the postal service.


More like the old fashioned party line where all the neighbors would listen in on your conversation.
 
2012-11-22 05:15:39 PM
BTW facebook is now using some algorithm that decides which of your friends stuff you get to see. So you can have a friend post a bunch of stuff and you won't see it, unless you happen to go to their page or something else triggers for it to show up for you.
 
2012-11-22 05:16:33 PM

Karne: Jake Havechek: Facebook is a friggin' loser magnet.

Yep, the billion people on Facebook are all losers.

You and the few other people that proudly and loudly don't sue Facebook stand as the true hipsters, too cool and successful to use a website.


You know how I know you suck at math?
 
2012-11-22 05:30:24 PM

styckx: digistil: KrispyKritter:
//Not dumb enough to even consider storing an MP3 on Google Music that might have the same md5 as a copy available via torrents.

^^ This.. I have 70GB of mp3s (all albums, no singles) and not a single one of them has ever graced Google Musics cloud.. It's the biggest obvious trap I've ever seen.


B-but....but......TO THE CLOUD!
 
2012-11-22 05:33:58 PM
It would be difficult for me to use FaceBook any less than I do now. Basically use it to arrange a poker-game twice a month and that's it.
 
2012-11-22 05:34:02 PM
God I wish Facebook would find a way to Jonestown their subscribers.
 
2012-11-22 05:42:14 PM
LouDobbsAwaaaay: It would be difficult for me to use FaceBook any less than I do now. Basically use it to arrange a poker-game twice a month and that's it.


Until they report you for illegal gambling 
 
2012-11-22 05:50:20 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: It would be difficult for me to use FaceBook any less than I do now. Basically use it to arrange a poker-game twice a month and that's it.


I was part of the initial test group of college freshmen at 2 or 3 East coast colleges that got special invites to join this experimental freshmanfacebook website. Almost ten years later, the only people on my friends list are my former college classmates from that year, and a half handful of family and coworkers. And I don't really use the site to talk to any of them, we email or call each other.

I really stopped using facebook when they lifted the restrictions and allowed people who were not college students to join up. That's when it started getting filled with children, old people, pedophiles, marketers, and weird combinations thereof.
 
2012-11-22 05:57:54 PM

Phil Moskowitz: God I wish Facebook would find a way to Jonestown their subscribers.


For some reason, talking about Facebook turns douche bags into raging douche bags.
 
2012-11-22 08:40:20 PM
Well, their Android app did dictate that I had to let them constantly check my location so I had to assassinate it.
 
2012-11-22 09:17:00 PM

HotWingAgenda: LouDobbsAwaaaay: It would be difficult for me to use FaceBook any less than I do now. Basically use it to arrange a poker-game twice a month and that's it.

I was part of the initial test group of college freshmen at 2 or 3 East coast colleges that got special invites to join this experimental freshmanfacebook website. Almost ten years later, the only people on my friends list are my former college classmates from that year, and a half handful of family and coworkers. And I don't really use the site to talk to any of them, we email or call each other.

I really stopped using facebook when they lifted the restrictions and allowed people who were not college students to join up. That's when it started getting filled with children, old people, pedophiles, marketers, and weird combinations thereof.


Sooo...what you're saying is that you liked Facebook before Facebook was cool.

www.pumpispumping.com
 
2012-11-22 09:24:31 PM

KrispyKritter: i'm just thrilled knowing many are going to inform us they have never had a FB account, they deactivated their FB account or something else about their not liking/using FB. wheeee!


I've never had a facebook account since I deactivated my facebook account. Also, I don't like facebook, and I don't use it anyway.

Honestly though, I have a lot more respect for people that say they don't use facebook than I have for people who claim they don't watch TV, but watch TV programs online. Not having a TV might have been remotely interesting or daring before the advent of online video, but you don't get to say that if you're watching 5 episodes of 'Friends' every day on your macbook, you farking asshole.
 
2012-11-23 12:46:44 PM
I'm getting a kick out of this, since earlier this week I deleted an abusive comment that a friend posted on my page and the friend accused me of "censorship" which is "the worst form of abuse there is."

I've often been the defender against the people who dismiss Facebook as not being "real life" (it's digital, but still populated by real people), but they are taking this way too far. Rein that shiat in, Slate.
 
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