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(The Sun)   Woman forced to live like rat in cage because of electromagnetic allergy, despite all her rage   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 107
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2012-11-22 08:15:01 AM  
i2.listal.comwww.zap2it.comimages.hitfix.com
 
2012-11-22 08:50:48 AM  
Hey, I know! Let's play a fun game. It's called "double blind testing". You go first!
 
2012-11-22 09:00:58 AM  
Hypochondriac psycho biatch.

/calling bullshiat
 
2012-11-22 09:06:14 AM  
she needs the hat
 
2012-11-22 09:11:44 AM  
img84.imageshack.us 
 
2012-11-22 09:25:56 AM  
Well done, subby
 
2012-11-22 10:03:25 AM  

kroonermanblack: Ya...there is more EM radiation from solar and cosmic sources than we have put in the atmosphere.

Plus how the fark does a magic scarf block EM?


Magic. Duh!
 
2012-11-22 10:04:17 AM  
Woman forced to live like rat in cage because of electromagnetic "allergy", despite all her rage

FTFSubby
 
2012-11-22 10:06:12 AM  
electromagnetic hypersensitivity syndrome

/What a load of crap. She's crazy, and wears a tin foil hat when she goes outside and sleeps in a bubble. I'm calling bullshiat.
 
2012-11-22 10:06:13 AM  
oi48.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-22 10:07:46 AM  
Her GP should have ordered two tests when she was begging for them. First, a visit to a psychologist to screen her for mental illness and second, a test where she's put in a reasonably EM free room (like a decent basement office or something) and she has to identify whether or not there's an active cell phone in the room with her.
 
2012-11-22 10:10:27 AM  
electromagnetic hypersensitivity syndrome

I remember when we used to call this 'being crazy'.
 
2012-11-22 10:10:42 AM  
It's a mental disorder. Worked with a woman who claimed she was getting radiation burns from the monitor. They actually had some state agency come in and TEST all our monitors and computers because she claimed she was experiencing burns. (Her face looked sunburned, but it didn't look like an actual burn, it looked like someone had been scrubbing her face raw.) Some people/luddites were still paranoid enough about computers to wonder if there could be some truth to it.

The tests showed nothing. It went on for awhile. They made accomidations for her, including hours spent playing musical monitors. Eventually she complained less and less, but then started coughing.

Then she switched to mold issues and started putting plastic bags on everything.

I left about the time she had stopped using all cleaning products (because that was now what was making her sick), INCLUDING SOAP AND LAUNDRY SOAP. There was more drama after that, but I'm not trying to mock the sick. She was ill, it was just a mental illness. Unfortunately AFAIK she never accepted help for that.

It seems real to them. I don't think she was doing it for attention, I think she really believed everything she said. And it IS an actual illness, just not one that's going to be resolved with makeshift faraday cages, and plastic bag forts.
 
2012-11-22 10:16:10 AM  

kroonermanblack: Ya...there is more EM radiation from solar and cosmic sources than we have put in the atmosphere.

Plus how the fark does a magic scarf block EM?


I believe it involves Jelly Babies...

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-22 10:18:05 AM  

t3knomanser: Hey, I know! Let's play a fun game. It's called "double blind testing". You go first!


That has already been done. They never found a single person that could correctly identify when EM exposure was present - or in other words - this woman is full of shiat. Or has a mental disorder - same thing I guess.
 
2012-11-22 10:22:30 AM  
My god the comments are depressing.

Why is it that medicine seems the take the lions share of hucksters, conspiracies, and unfounded bullshiat? Yeah sure there are tons of people convince that Tesla had a device that made free energy and who try to build one, but between homeopathy, chiropractors, ancient Asian remedies, crystals, and god knows what else medicine seems to be the most affected.
 
2012-11-22 10:27:42 AM  
Wait till she gets the Black Shakes.

i.ytimg.com
 
2012-11-22 10:32:56 AM  

t3knomanser: Hey, I know! Let's play a fun game. It's called "double blind testing". You go first!


This needs to be done, then people still claiming this crap need to be locked away in a mental hospital.
 
2012-11-22 10:36:33 AM  
Mental Illness...I should probably have more sympathy but I can't muster it.
 
2012-11-22 10:39:21 AM  
You get crap like this because the state gets to pay for everything for her "disability".

I mean why not move to the countryside? Why stay in south London?
 
2012-11-22 10:39:59 AM  

kroonermanblack: Ya...there is more EM radiation from solar and cosmic sources than we have put in the atmosphere.

Plus how the fark does a magic scarf block EM?


Because crazy biatch syndrome.
 
2012-11-22 10:43:23 AM  
 
2012-11-22 10:44:35 AM  

PIP_the_TROLL: Wait till she gets the Black Shakes.

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


I love you
 
2012-11-22 10:46:29 AM  

madgonad: t3knomanser: Hey, I know! Let's play a fun game. It's called "double blind testing". You go first!

That has already been done. They never found a single person that could correctly identify when EM exposure was present - or in other words - this woman is full of shiat. Or has a mental disorder - same thing I guess.


A big problem is the stigma attached to mental health issues. People would much rather attribute their symptoms to a disease caused by some external factor rather than acknowledge that they have a mental disorder. As a result, they seek treatment for a nonexistent physical ailment while neglecting the root cause.

Of course when it comes right down to it, mental illnesses are just as "real" as any other physical illnesses. Equating "full of shiat" with mental disorders does nothing help get rid of the stigma, however.
 
2012-11-22 10:49:59 AM  

Egoy3k: Why is it that medicine seems the take the lions share of hucksters, conspiracies, and unfounded bullshiat?


Because the easiest people to con are the desperate.
 
2012-11-22 10:51:18 AM  
"The last gig I went to was Radiohead. I knew I was getting worse and wouldn't be able to go to any more so I wanted to make it a good one."

She failed.
 
2012-11-22 10:54:22 AM  
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"

"I think so Brain, but don't you think it's rude to tell this lady she really needs to get laid?"
 
2012-11-22 10:54:39 AM  
 
2012-11-22 10:58:11 AM  

threedingers: A big problem is the stigma attached to mental health issues. People would much rather attribute their symptoms to a disease caused by some external factor rather than acknowledge that they have a mental disorder.


It's not simply the stigma, it's the diagnosis problem. A mental problem is an internal problem, making it very hard for someone to know they have it. The only tool you have to diagnose yourself is your brain, and if it's not working properly, you can't rely on the results you get.
 
2012-11-22 11:08:06 AM  
believing in nonsense can have terrible consequences.
 
2012-11-22 11:10:09 AM  

relcec: believing in nonsense can have terrible consequences.


Not according to the GOP.
 
2012-11-22 11:11:04 AM  
I was talking to a woman on the bus who claimed to have something like this. EM fields made her sick or something. It turned out she worked in a computer store. I wanted to slap her.
 
2012-11-22 11:11:22 AM  
She claims metal fibres in the netting reflect the electro-magnetic waves and stop her from suffering EMS symptoms.

So, not actually a Faraday cage. More a walk-in tinfoil hat.
 
2012-11-22 11:18:52 AM  

Lady Indica: It's a mental disorder.


there are many people who believe in this hocus pocus who aren't sick.
the vast majority of them probably.
pyramid power, the power of magnet therapy, rf causing cancer and making you sick, ufos, ancient aliens, hauntings, colon cleansing, esp, roswell, the ark in the Himalayas, giants, chem trails, truthers, big foot, lock ness, aids as a government weapon...
basically, everything on the History Chanel now a days.
you don't have to be sick to believe it, or even to take it to absurd levels (though your coworker sounded deranged).
 
2012-11-22 11:21:56 AM  

FlashHarry: Electromagnetic hypersensitivity is not currently an accepted diagnosis. At present there are no accepted research criteria other than 'self-reported symptoms', and for clinicians there is no case definition or clinical practice guideline.


So you are saying that the medical establishment is covering this up then?
 
2012-11-22 11:23:22 AM  

L'mours: PIP_the_TROLL: Wait till she gets the Black Shakes.

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I love you


Me too. Let's have a threesome.
 
2012-11-22 11:24:01 AM  
In my world we call it a Faraday cage.
 
2012-11-22 11:25:45 AM  

Insatiable Jesus: In my world we call it a Faraday cage.


a blanket draped over two chairs is a faraday cage?
 
2012-11-22 11:30:07 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-22 11:34:32 AM  

nekom: [img84.imageshack.us image 640x359]


i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-22 11:39:46 AM  

relcec: Lady Indica: It's a mental disorder.

there are many people who believe in this hocus pocus who aren't sick.
the vast majority of them probably.
pyramid power, the power of magnet therapy, rf causing cancer and making you sick, ufos, ancient aliens, hauntings, colon cleansing, esp, roswell, the ark in the Himalayas, giants, chem trails, truthers, big foot, lock ness, aids as a government weapon...
basically, everything on the History Chanel now a days.
you don't have to be sick to believe it, or even to take it to absurd levels (though your coworker sounded deranged).


Some of us are trying to fix that.

Science Isn't Scary
 
2012-11-22 12:00:32 PM  
Oh poor lady, she might be mentally ill or has some actual medical condition unrelated to EMF that her doctors couldn't figure out so she got taken in by WooWoo.
 
2012-11-22 12:06:07 PM  
Jerry Seinfeld: He's a bubble-boy!

George Costanza: A bubble-boy?

Jerry Seinfeld: Yes, a bubble-boy.

Susan Biddle Ross: What's a bubble-boy?

Jerry Seinfeld: He lives in a bubble.

George Costanza: Boy!

www.netbrawl.com
 
2012-11-22 12:15:47 PM  

threedingers: madgonad: t3knomanser: Hey, I know! Let's play a fun game. It's called "double blind testing". You go first!

That has already been done. They never found a single person that could correctly identify when EM exposure was present - or in other words - this woman is full of shiat. Or has a mental disorder - same thing I guess.

A big problem is the stigma attached to mental health issues. People would much rather attribute their symptoms to a disease caused by some external factor rather than acknowledge that they have a mental disorder. As a result, they seek treatment for a nonexistent physical ailment while neglecting the root cause.

Of course when it comes right down to it, mental illnesses are just as "real" as any other physical illnesses. Equating "full of shiat" with mental disorders does nothing help get rid of the stigma, however.


It's also because it's generally really hard to tell that you have a mental illness from the inside.

The closest most people will get, fortunately, to understanding what it's like to be delusional is being drunk/high, or a very realistic dream. Think about the last weird dream you had that seemed perfectly reasonable while you were inside it regardless of illogical and irrational events.
 
2012-11-22 12:16:26 PM  
She's allergic to everything but a paper book with all dust and glue and chemicals is just fine?
 
2012-11-22 12:19:01 PM  

shortymac: Oh poor lady, she might be mentally ill or has some actual medical condition unrelated to EMF


Unbelievable.
 
2012-11-22 12:22:20 PM  

Egoy3k: Why is it that medicine seems the take the lions share of hucksters, conspiracies, and unfounded bullshiat?


Partly because the human body (including the brain) is such a complex system that there is still plenty of room for uncertainty, shadows where the hucksters can hide. Symptoms may be vague, conditions may be complex and have multiple causes, some diseases can go into spontaneous remission... Unlike almost anything else in the modern world, it leaves wiggle room for unscience to claim credit for success and to avoid blame for failure.

What's telling, of course, is that none of the so-called alternative therapies have ever cured a demonstrably physical symptom (much like prayers have never cured an amputee).
 
2012-11-22 12:34:14 PM  
Yada yada, story about complaints about cell towers causing illness and better cell coverage before they're turned on, so on and so forth.

Can we get an "oh look, that thread again"
 
2012-11-22 12:35:44 PM  
FTFA: As a teenager Velma suffered a shock when she touched the switch of an electric fire in her bathroom.

Seems like she had it coming. When I was a teenager my dad would get really angry if I touched the switch on the electric fire or the thermostat.
 
2012-11-22 12:42:27 PM  
As a teenager Velma suffered a shock when she touched the switch of an electric fire in her bathroom.

Jinkies! Clearly your allergy is actually Old Man Peterson in a mask. Quick, get your pothead Great Dane on the case!
 
2012-11-22 12:43:18 PM  

czetie: Egoy3k: Why is it that medicine seems the take the lions share of hucksters, conspiracies, and unfounded bullshiat?

Partly because the human body (including the brain) is such a complex system that there is still plenty of room for uncertainty, shadows where the hucksters can hide. Symptoms may be vague, conditions may be complex and have multiple causes, some diseases can go into spontaneous remission... Unlike almost anything else in the modern world, it leaves wiggle room for unscience to claim credit for success and to avoid blame for failure.

What's telling, of course, is that none of the so-called alternative therapies have ever cured a demonstrably physical symptom (much like prayers have never cured an amputee).


I know right.. Idiots know answers and miracles come in a handy plastic package.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-22 12:47:30 PM  

shortymac: Oh poor lady, she might be mentally ill or has some actual medical condition unrelated to EMF that her doctors couldn't figure out so she got taken in by WooWoo.


If only she would acknowledge that possibility and seek treatment.

There are some people who do have legitimate mental health issues that refuse to acknowledge that they're mentally ill. Instead they play it off as something stupid like EHS, or the government putting things in their body. At the end of the day the result is the same, an individual who is mentally ill and unable to function in society thereby requiring government assistance.

Sometimes the best treatment is playing to someone's fantasy in order to keep them stable and healthy.
 
2012-11-22 12:55:11 PM  
I have disorder. Where my money???
 
2012-11-22 12:55:59 PM  

WhippingBoy: I have disorder. Where my money???


Have a physician document your disorder on the appropriate forms and submit it to the appropriate government agency for review.

Dipshiat.
 
2012-11-22 12:56:43 PM  
I spend 10-12 hours in a faraday cage each day and my social life sucks too. I'm not a hypochondriac hippy though.. just a software engineer.
 
2012-11-22 01:15:53 PM  

styckx: czetie: Egoy3k: Why is it that medicine seems the take the lions share of hucksters, conspiracies, and unfounded bullshiat?

Partly because the human body (including the brain) is such a complex system that there is still plenty of room for uncertainty, shadows where the hucksters can hide. Symptoms may be vague, conditions may be complex and have multiple causes, some diseases can go into spontaneous remission... Unlike almost anything else in the modern world, it leaves wiggle room for unscience to claim credit for success and to avoid blame for failure.

What's telling, of course, is that none of the so-called alternative therapies have ever cured a demonstrably physical symptom (much like prayers have never cured an amputee).

I know right.. Idiots know answers and miracles come in a handy plastic package.

[i.imgur.com image 500x375]


What is the nature of the thing I am seeing here.
 
2012-11-22 01:20:01 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: I spend 10-12 hours in a faraday cage each day and my social life sucks too. I'm not a hypochondriac hippy though.. just a software engineer.


Why would a software engineer work in a faraday cage?
 
2012-11-22 01:24:34 PM  

styckx: czetie: Egoy3k: Why is it that medicine seems the take the lions share of hucksters, conspiracies, and unfounded bullshiat?

Partly because the human body (including the brain) is such a complex system that there is still plenty of room for uncertainty, shadows where the hucksters can hide. Symptoms may be vague, conditions may be complex and have multiple causes, some diseases can go into spontaneous remission... Unlike almost anything else in the modern world, it leaves wiggle room for unscience to claim credit for success and to avoid blame for failure.

What's telling, of course, is that none of the so-called alternative therapies have ever cured a demonstrably physical symptom (much like prayers have never cured an amputee).

I know right.. Idiots know answers and miracles come in a handy plastic package.

[i.imgur.com image 500x375]


y'know the funny thing about "miracle" spring water is that clean water wasn't highly available in the USA like it is now. People actually were cured of certain diseases by simply not drinking water contaminated with their own feces.

/the more you know
 
2012-11-22 01:24:51 PM  

Humorous-Name: styckx: czetie: Egoy3k: Why is it that medicine seems the take the lions share of hucksters, conspiracies, and unfounded bullshiat?

Partly because the human body (including the brain) is such a complex system that there is still plenty of room for uncertainty, shadows where the hucksters can hide. Symptoms may be vague, conditions may be complex and have multiple causes, some diseases can go into spontaneous remission... Unlike almost anything else in the modern world, it leaves wiggle room for unscience to claim credit for success and to avoid blame for failure.

What's telling, of course, is that none of the so-called alternative therapies have ever cured a demonstrably physical symptom (much like prayers have never cured an amputee).

I know right.. Idiots know answers and miracles come in a handy plastic package.

[i.imgur.com image 500x375]

What is the nature of the thing I am seeing here.


He was a televangelist a long time ago and lost everything after it was revealed he used plants in the audience and an ear piece to act like he knew information from strangers, but now hes coming back, it appears people are extremely stupid.
 
2012-11-22 01:26:10 PM  

MarkEC: Microwave Auditory Effect


Oh, so that's what that is. I always had this uncanny ability to hear a CRT TV somewhere nearby being turned on, and could never figure out why. I'd ask my parents and they'd tell me I'm imagining stuff.
 
2012-11-22 01:27:44 PM  
There's already a "white zone," lady. It's called Antarctica. Head on down; let me know when you're sane.
 
2012-11-22 01:31:56 PM  
Sh*t should have checked first, he has a wiki page

That farker is making a shiat ton of money again, god dammit people are stupid. Its why I hate religion even though being immersed in it from a young age, dont tell me I have to give you my hard earned money to be in gods good graces. I got into an argument with my mothers old preacher when I asked him how he could live with himself after taking money from people who couldnt afford to give it? He simply said its in the bible to offer up to go that which is his, so I asked him again, why does that mean they have to make these people believe they have to give it to him? Offering it up to god could mean numerous things such as helping homeless shelters, or even donating your time to help people.....he stared blankly and then started babbling about what they do to help the community and thats when I brought up him trying to shut down a comic book store because it had magic items sold, after that he just walked away. You use their BS against them and they crumble.
 
2012-11-22 01:33:17 PM  
I have the reverse problem, electromagnetic fields are sensitive to me. Can't tell you how many times I've been biatched at by a co-worker for walking by their office and then their cellphone/printer/computer craps ou
 
2012-11-22 01:35:33 PM  
A lot of our mentally are truly sad cases of humans who were just wired poorly and/or suffered severe trauma and just couldn't cope with it, and as a consequence they have to live a miserable existence making other people miserable.

But then there are mentally ill people who need to be forcibly dumped on a deserted island with a 20 MW short wave transmitter and told that if they don't get over their "migranes" and catch some fish they'll starve to death. Freedom for the people is generally a good thing but there are drawbacks.
 
2012-11-22 01:36:12 PM  

czetie: The closest most people will get, fortunately, to understanding what it's like to be delusional is being drunk/high


I've been drunk and high many times, none of them made me feel crazy. But I did try mushrooms once, and I distinctly remember at one point thinking to myself "this must be what it's like to be insane". It would have been very worrying if I didn't occasionally remind myself that it was only temporary. Of course temporary isn't an easy concept to grasp when your sense of time has been vastly distorted.
 
2012-11-22 01:38:59 PM  
FTA:

Now Velma has agonising head and nerve pain, memory loss, tinnitus, heart palpitations, vertigo and aching joints if she gets near technology.

Yeah, that list of symptoms removes any lingering doubt whether she has a legitimate allergy or not. Some people have some strange allergies, but allergies symptoms tend to be pretty typical, and these are not allergy symptoms. In fact they are more like placebo effect symptoms.
 
2012-11-22 01:40:47 PM  

skinink: "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"

"I think so Brain, but don't you think it's rude to tell this lady she really needs to get laid?"


Are you volunteering to violate the cardinal rule of sex and mental health?
 
2012-11-22 01:42:06 PM  

ThreadSinger: I have the reverse problem, electromagnetic fields are sensitive to me. Can't tell you how many times I've been biatched at by a co-worker for walking by their office and then their cellphone/printer/computer craps ou


Stop shuffling along the walls and tripping over the cords.
 
2012-11-22 01:43:31 PM  

Nintenfreak: MarkEC: Microwave Auditory Effect

Oh, so that's what that is. I always had this uncanny ability to hear a CRT TV somewhere nearby being turned on, and could never figure out why. I'd ask my parents and they'd tell me I'm imagining stuff.


No, that's the whine from the flyback transformer in it. It's very high pitched, so aging makes it harder and harder to hear as you lose those high frequencies.
 
2012-11-22 01:43:57 PM  

Gwyrddu: Yeah, that list of symptoms removes any lingering doubt whether she has a legitimate allergy or not. Some people have some strange allergies, but allergies symptoms tend to be pretty typical, and these are not allergy symptoms. In fact they are more like placebo effect symptoms.


One line from the article made it pretty clear that she's been conned by someone:
"Independent experts say in five years' time 50 per cent of the population could be affected at current exposure levels."

I presume whoever the "independent experts" are, they are probably the same ones that convinced her she has this in the first place.
 
2012-11-22 01:44:29 PM  

t3knomanser: Hey, I know! Let's play a fun game. It's called "double blind testing". You go first!


If a Sat Nav (being a passive device with no radio transmitter or transformer) affects her then I call bullshiat.

Gordon Bennett: She claims metal fibres in the netting reflect the electro-magnetic waves and stop her from suffering EMS symptoms.

So, not actually a Faraday cage. More a walk-in tinfoil hat.


So not only does she not understand which devices emit electromagnetic fields, she fails in understanding how to deal with them as well...
 
2012-11-22 01:46:26 PM  

Nintenfreak: I always had this uncanny ability to hear a CRT TV somewhere nearby being turned on, and could never figure out why. I'd ask my parents and they'd tell me I'm imagining stuff.


I'm not sure if it's the same thing as in the article (I've never heard anything resembling a clicking noise), but I've always been able to hear that from CRT TVs too. It's a constant high pitch noise, just barely on the edge of being audible. It annoys the bejesus out of me. I keep hoping I won't be able to hear it when I get older and lose the ability to hear high pitch noises, but I'm not old enough yet for that apparently.
 
2012-11-22 01:47:24 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: skinink: "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"

"I think so Brain, but don't you think it's rude to tell this lady she really needs to get laid?"

Are you volunteering to violate the cardinal rule of sex and mental health?


Don't stick your dick in crazy?
 
2012-11-22 01:47:47 PM  

adenosine: Nintenfreak: MarkEC: Microwave Auditory Effect

Oh, so that's what that is. I always had this uncanny ability to hear a CRT TV somewhere nearby being turned on, and could never figure out why. I'd ask my parents and they'd tell me I'm imagining stuff.

No, that's the whine from the flyback transformer in it. It's very high pitched, so aging makes it harder and harder to hear as you lose those high frequencies.


That's what that was. Back in the days before computers were omnipresent in every classroom, I could tell that my class had a computer that day because I could hear a high pitched whine even before I'd gone up the stairs to the portable. I heard that whine every time the TV was turned on too. I haven't noticed that sound in ages. Stupid clapped-out ears (and an increasing lack of CRT monitors in favour of plasma, I would guess as well).
 
2012-11-22 01:50:10 PM  

Kotecks: Tr0mBoNe: I spend 10-12 hours in a faraday cage each day and my social life sucks too. I'm not a hypochondriac hippy though.. just a software engineer.

Why would a software engineer work in a faraday cage?


Yeah, you can`t just say stuff like that and then leave it! Do you work inbetween two tesla coils? You know, just for shiats and giggles...
 
2012-11-22 01:50:11 PM  

ThreadSinger: I have the reverse problem, electromagnetic fields are sensitive to me. Can't tell you how many times I've been biatched at by a co-worker for walking by their office and then their cellphone/printer/computer craps ou


I swear, it's like you project some sort of goddamned FIELD.
 
2012-11-22 01:53:48 PM  

Gordon Bennett: She claims metal fibres in the netting reflect the electro-magnetic waves and stop her from suffering EMS symptoms.

So, not actually a Faraday cage. More a walk-in tinfoil hat.


She has the "walk out the door" tinfoil hat covered: "I always wear a shielded scarf round my head when I leave the house to protect myself from radiation signals."
 
2012-11-22 02:04:44 PM  

Bondith: adenosine: Nintenfreak: MarkEC: Microwave Auditory Effect

Oh, so that's what that is. I always had this uncanny ability to hear a CRT TV somewhere nearby being turned on, and could never figure out why. I'd ask my parents and they'd tell me I'm imagining stuff.

No, that's the whine from the flyback transformer in it. It's very high pitched, so aging makes it harder and harder to hear as you lose those high frequencies.

That's what that was. Back in the days before computers were omnipresent in every classroom, I could tell that my class had a computer that day because I could hear a high pitched whine even before I'd gone up the stairs to the portable. I heard that whine every time the TV was turned on too. I haven't noticed that sound in ages. Stupid clapped-out ears (and an increasing lack of CRT monitors in favour of plasma, I would guess as well).


At 25fps with 625 lines that`s 15.6Khz (UK) at 30fps and 525 lines it`s 15.7Khz (US), well within the hearing range for most people and quite high pitched and in the range of hearing you lose when you get older. No need for fancy government equipment aiming messages at your head, just a loose soldered connection in the tube...

Now that we don`t use tubes, the sound is gone. Also 50fps at 1080 lines is 54Khz, well outside anybodies hearing.

/can`t wait for 2k and 4k to get pushed to mass market so I can get a better monitor...
 
2012-11-22 02:06:07 PM  
I wonder what particular form this mental illness took before electricity was discovered. Witches? Religious delusions?
 
2012-11-22 02:35:43 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: ThreadSinger: I have the reverse problem, electromagnetic fields are sensitive to me. Can't tell you how many times I've been biatched at by a co-worker for walking by their office and then their cellphone/printer/computer craps ou

Stop shuffling along the walls and tripping over the cords.


Well, that would explain the frequent changes in elevation I experience about the office...

Ishidan: ThreadSinger: I have the reverse problem, electromagnetic fields are sensitive to me. Can't tell you how many times I've been biatched at by a co-worker for walking by their office and then their cellphone/printer/computer craps ou

I swear, it's like you project some sort of goddamned FIELD.


Someone at the office gave me a small poster of
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/9/03 (language, potentially NSFW).

I now use that excuse as justification of the effect. When the machines come, you'll be grateful.
 
2012-11-22 02:37:30 PM  

Inquisitive Inquisitor: WhippingBoy: I have disorder. Where my money???

Have a physician document your disorder on the appropriate forms and submit it to the appropriate government agency for review.

Dipshiat.


No. Gimme money now.
 
2012-11-22 03:50:35 PM  
img.thesun.co.uk

Yeah, I bet it's electromagnetism that's causing all your problems, not all the crap you fill your body with...
 
2012-11-22 04:08:46 PM  

Humorous-Name: styckx: czetie: Egoy3k: Why is it that medicine seems the take the lions share of hucksters, conspiracies, and unfounded bullshiat?

Partly because the human body (including the brain) is such a complex system that there is still plenty of room for uncertainty, shadows where the hucksters can hide. Symptoms may be vague, conditions may be complex and have multiple causes, some diseases can go into spontaneous remission... Unlike almost anything else in the modern world, it leaves wiggle room for unscience to claim credit for success and to avoid blame for failure.

What's telling, of course, is that none of the so-called alternative therapies have ever cured a demonstrably physical symptom (much like prayers have never cured an amputee).

I know right.. Idiots know answers and miracles come in a handy plastic package.

[i.imgur.com image 500x375]

What is the nature of the thing I am seeing here.


Glad you asked.. Enjoy your lol's: Link
 
2012-11-22 04:26:27 PM  
She's welcome to stay at my house. I can't get a cell signal to save my life. I'm 200 meters from a cell tower and I have to take my calls standing on the back steps.
 
2012-11-22 04:30:45 PM  
great, now I hear a f*cking high pitched whine I haven't heard since I was standing in a department store in a mall as a small child in 1986.
 
2012-11-22 05:06:46 PM  
She's crazy.

I'm betting the alleviated symptoms inside the Faraday cage are simply a placebo effect.
 
2012-11-22 05:42:43 PM  
there is never a lack of arrogant know it all's on Fark. mankind tinkering with electricity has mucked with our natural flow of electrons from first exposure. think of the electrical power and transmissions that have been added over time. the list is now extensive. and you good folks that know damn well how corporations will gladly hide or hinder the truths of how detrimental their wares are (pollution from motor vehicles, danger of microwave ovens for example) are so quick to pretend you know everything. didn't you have one single school teacher that taught you to question things or to think for yourself?

maybe they have you all fooled but they haven't pulled the wool over my eyes. i'm not so ignorant that i cannot do a little research and find out for myself that all sorts of damage is being done to people and animals. don't play the fool my friends. 15 minutes worth of research will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up from fright.

one example: you've seen paths of high power wires going from tower to tower that supply and feed the grid? that land is owned by the power cos. where population is nearby deer caught on that they could graze this land without fear of being shot by hunters. it didn't take too long and it was noticed the deer population ceased grazing this land in so many areas. it was because the exposure from the power lines, the deer became sterile and ceased to have little ones so in time the adults died off or were killed and left no legacy behind.
 
2012-11-22 05:53:23 PM  

smadge1: [img.thesun.co.uk image 300x405]

Yeah, I bet it's electromagnetism that's causing all your problems, not all the crap you fill your body with...


Yeah that all that looks like homeopathic garbage and I don't believe she has an electromagnetic allergy. I can believe though she has some kind of anxiety disorder and a delusional disorder.
 
2012-11-22 06:05:23 PM  

adenosine: Nintenfreak: MarkEC: Microwave Auditory Effect

Oh, so that's what that is. I always had this uncanny ability to hear a CRT TV somewhere nearby being turned on, and could never figure out why. I'd ask my parents and they'd tell me I'm imagining stuff.

No, that's the whine from the flyback transformer in it. It's very high pitched, so aging makes it harder and harder to hear as you lose those high frequencies.


I once got a massive jolt from said transformer when I worked my fingers under the rubber cup on the back of the glass. Now I am sexually attracted to flyback transformers... It is a vicious and downright shocking loop.

Also the woman in TFA is pretty damn crazy.
 
2012-11-22 06:06:00 PM  

KrispyKritter: there is never a lack of arrogant know it all's on Fark. mankind tinkering with electricity has mucked with our natural flow of electrons from first exposure.


You lost any chance of me taking you seriously right there.
 
2012-11-22 06:10:42 PM  

KrispyKritter: there is never a lack of arrogant know it all's on Fark. mankind tinkering with electricity has mucked with our natural flow of electrons from first exposure. think of the electrical power and transmissions that have been added over time. the list is now extensive. and you good folks that know damn well how corporations will gladly hide or hinder the truths of how detrimental their wares are (pollution from motor vehicles, danger of microwave ovens for example) are so quick to pretend you know everything. didn't you have one single school teacher that taught you to question things or to think for yourself?

maybe they have you all fooled but they haven't pulled the wool over my eyes. i'm not so ignorant that i cannot do a little research and find out for myself that all sorts of damage is being done to people and animals. don't play the fool my friends. 15 minutes worth of research will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up from fright.

one example: you've seen paths of high power wires going from tower to tower that supply and feed the grid? that land is owned by the power cos. where population is nearby deer caught on that they could graze this land without fear of being shot by hunters. it didn't take too long and it was noticed the deer population ceased grazing this land in so many areas. it was because the exposure from the power lines, the deer became sterile and ceased to have little ones so in time the adults died off or were killed and left no legacy behind.


Your example is awful..
 
2012-11-22 06:18:26 PM  

offmymeds: Jerry Seinfeld: He's a bubble-boy!

George Costanza: A bubble-boy?

Jerry Seinfeld: Yes, a bubble-boy.

Susan Biddle Ross: What's a bubble-boy?

Jerry Seinfeld: He lives in a bubble.

George Costanza: Boy!


As i read this npr brought up the moops!
 
2012-11-22 07:11:55 PM  
Anyone else find it ironic the last concert she went to was Radiohead?
 
2012-11-22 09:09:52 PM  

relcec: Lady Indica: It's a mental disorder.

there are many people who believe in this hocus pocus who aren't sick.
the vast majority of them probably.
pyramid power, the power of magnet therapy, rf causing cancer and making you sick, ufos, ancient aliens, hauntings, colon cleansing, esp, roswell, the ark in the Himalayas, giants, chem trails, truthers, big foot, lock ness, aids as a government weapon...
basically, everything on the History Chanel now a days.
you don't have to be sick to believe it, or even to take it to absurd levels (though your coworker sounded deranged).


My cousin believed in pretty much all this shiat for the longest time. Me and another buddy managed to get him pretty well straightened out, then he moved away. Within a year he came back to me telling me about how some guy had discovered the cure for cancer and Big Pharm was keeping it hidden, everybody is allergic to gluten, cooking your food and eating meat causes the body to attack it, it's a myth that you can overdose on vitamins, etc.

I tried explaining to him how to use wikipedia and how to have a working bullshiat detector and whatnot, even linked him the toxicity section on vitamin A and he was like yeah, well...pasteurizing milk kills the enzymes so your body can't uptake the calcium. I implored him to not farking die listening to conspiracy theorists.

Talked to him on the phone yesterday in fact, and sort of out of nowhere he's like "I'm not dead yet!", as if that means all his crazy shiat is right and my warnings were just fear-mongering.

It's weird, but I think everybody has to buy into some sort of bullshiat. He's the conspiracy theorist, pretty much everybody else I know buys into various political delusions I won't bring up here. I wonder what sort of crazy I believe. Or if I'm just naturally crazy enough to not have to search new crazy out.
 
2012-11-22 10:29:59 PM  
"Dr Erica Mallery-Blythe said: "The symptoms of EHS can cover a broad range of systems, often start subtly and can be mistaken for other medical conditions."

Other conditions; like being an attention whoring disability sponge. There are people with severed limbs being denied charity assistance because this woman can't go to work. The evil cell phones prevent her from being able to perform her secretarial duties...
 
2012-11-22 10:39:19 PM  

LoneVVolf: "Dr Erica Mallery-Blythe said: "The symptoms of EHS can cover a broad range of systems, often start subtly and can be mistaken for other medical conditions."

Other conditions; like being an attention whoring disability sponge. There are people without severed limbs being denied charity assistance because this woman can't go to work. The evil cell phones prevent her from being able to perform her secretarial duties...


Fixed that for snark.
 
2012-11-22 10:47:14 PM  
Notice one of her treatments is a tincture? No amount of science is going to cure her.

Well, unless maybe you slip her some klonopin.

LoneVVolf: "Dr Erica Mallery-Blythe said: "The symptoms of EHS can cover a broad range of systems, often start subtly and can be mistaken for other medical conditions."

Other conditions; like being an attention whoring disability sponge. There are people with severed limbs being denied charity assistance because this woman can't go to work. The evil cell phones prevent her from being able to perform her secretarial duties...


It's quite possible, probably even probable, that she believes this and her crazy is preventing her from working. What is sad is that instead of treating her for delusions she is treating herself for an imaginary illness with fake medication. The doctors supporting her should be the focus of our anger.
 
2012-11-22 11:01:36 PM  

Ishidan: ThreadSinger: I have the reverse problem, electromagnetic fields are sensitive to me. Can't tell you how many times I've been biatched at by a co-worker for walking by their office and then their cellphone/printer/computer craps ou

I swear, it's like you project some sort of goddamned FIELD.


Someone get this guy an abacus, stat.
 
2012-11-22 11:06:31 PM  
Bull.

shiate.

Nothing more than a case of "let's make up a malady that the doctors can't diagnose, claim disability and clean up."

"Specially-designed laptop" my furry butt.

Put her in a closed box. Randomly subject her to EMF varying both in amplitude and duration. Correlate any response.
 
2012-11-23 12:07:49 AM  

smadge1: [img.thesun.co.uk image 300x405]

Yeah, I bet it's electromagnetism that's causing all your problems, not all the crap you fill your body with...


This is the key to her wellness:

i47.tinypic.com

i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-23 01:58:57 AM  

Nintenfreak: MarkEC: Microwave Auditory Effect

Oh, so that's what that is. I always had this uncanny ability to hear a CRT TV somewhere nearby being turned on, and could never figure out why. I'd ask my parents and they'd tell me I'm imagining stuff.


Actually, that's just because CRT TVs produce a high-pitched ringing noise.
 
2012-11-23 07:48:10 AM  

vrax: smadge1: [img.thesun.co.uk image 300x405]

Yeah, I bet it's electromagnetism that's causing all your problems, not all the crap you fill your body with...

This is the key to her wellness:


Makes perfect sense. Do they make one that can go on my schlong?
 
2012-11-23 08:27:57 AM  

Kotecks: Tr0mBoNe: I spend 10-12 hours in a faraday cage each day and my social life sucks too. I'm not a hypochondriac hippy though.. just a software engineer.

Why would a software engineer work in a faraday cage?


Sorry, had to go back in the cage.

Security.
 
2012-11-23 09:12:24 AM  

ur14me: Bull.

shiate.

Nothing more than a case of "let's make up a malady that the doctors can't diagnose, claim disability and clean up."

"Specially-designed laptop" my furry butt.

Put her in a closed box. Randomly subject her to EMF varying both in amplitude and duration. Correlate any response.


Sounds like an actual plan.

Normally allergies actually do things that have provable, repeated effects with exposure. I know when I get near berillium hives will run from the point of contact and I'll get hives.
 
2012-11-23 09:47:09 AM  

A Terrible Human: smadge1: [img.thesun.co.uk image 300x405]

Yeah, I bet it's electromagnetism that's causing all your problems, not all the crap you fill your body with...

Yeah that all that looks like homeopathic garbage and I don't believe she has an electromagnetic allergy. I can believe though she has some kind of anxiety disorder and a delusional disorder.


The basic concept of a Faraday cage is actually scientifically sound. The problem is that the object being shielded has to be completely inside the cage. A "Faraday scarf" around your head doesn't make any meaningful difference, because your body isn't shielded: likewise with the more infamous tinfoil hat. If you made something like a burqa from this kind of fabric, and paired it with shoes designed along similar lines, that might actually work, but just try suggesting this to people. Go on; I dare you.

This is not to say that she's necessarily crazy; I'm not qualified to make that diagnosis. But if the scarf alleviates her symptoms, then whatever she has, be it physical or mental, is most definitely not caused by EMF: the proof is in the simple fact that she can walk around immersed in the stuff and feel fine. She needs to be looking at other possibilities.
 
2012-11-23 01:55:15 PM  

KrispyKritter: there is never a lack of arrogant know it all's on Fark. mankind tinkering with electricity has mucked with our natural flow of electrons from first exposure. think of the electrical power and transmissions that have been added over time. the list is now extensive. and you good folks that know damn well how corporations will gladly hide or hinder the truths of how detrimental their wares are (pollution from motor vehicles, danger of microwave ovens for example) are so quick to pretend you know everything. didn't you have one single school teacher that taught you to question things or to think for yourself?

maybe they have you all fooled but they haven't pulled the wool over my eyes. i'm not so ignorant that i cannot do a little research and find out for myself that all sorts of damage is being done to people and animals. don't play the fool my friends. 15 minutes worth of research will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up from fright.

one example: you've seen paths of high power wires going from tower to tower that supply and feed the grid? that land is owned by the power cos. where population is nearby deer caught on that they could graze this land without fear of being shot by hunters. it didn't take too long and it was noticed the deer population ceased grazing this land in so many areas. it was because the exposure from the power lines, the deer became sterile and ceased to have little ones so in time the adults died off or were killed and left no legacy behind.


t.qkme.me
 
2012-11-24 03:52:31 PM  
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