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2012-11-22 07:43:40 AM
Australia has the largest tropical landmass among developed nations and JCU vice chancellor Sandra Harding said a citizen of the country's tropical north typically died two-and-a-half years earlier than one in the south.

I found that interesting. I would think that people living in Hawaii or tropical parts of Japan (like these folks) for instance would enjoy a long life.
 
2012-11-22 07:46:50 AM
The Tropics are universally recognized as having the shiattiest living standards and poorest development on the planet. I'm surprised that the difference in life expectancy isn't greater, frankly.
 
2012-11-22 07:55:49 AM
Left all but unsaid in FTA was the observation that life expectancy in the tropics hinges largely on external factors (nutrition, violence, political oppression, and infectious disease) as opposed to intenal factors such as genetics and personal food choice.

Hmmm...
 
2012-11-22 07:59:49 AM
Could it be because most countries in the tropics are third-world hellholes wracked by tribal war?
 
2012-11-22 08:00:17 AM
Poor people have shorter lives. More at eleven.
 
2012-11-22 08:09:34 AM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Could it be because most countries in the tropics are third-world hellholes wracked by tribal war?


Well, I'm sure that certainly doesn't help.
 
2012-11-22 08:09:50 AM
Even in Australia, most of the Aboriginal population live in the tropics and as a group, their average life expectancy is the worst in the world outside of war zones in the tropics.
 
2012-11-22 08:15:07 AM

dervish16108: Australia has the largest tropical landmass among developed nations and JCU vice chancellor Sandra Harding said a citizen of the country's tropical north typically died two-and-a-half years earlier than one in the south.

I found that interesting. I would think that people living in Hawaii or tropical parts of Japan (like these folks) for instance would enjoy a long life.


Northern Australia is almost entirely rural, has many small remote settlements, which generally means shorter life spans, and has a much higher proportion of Aboriginals, who sadly have a much shorter life expectancy than the Australian average for a whole raft of reasons.

The reason that it's far less developed in general is because the Tropics in Australia suck to live in. I have family living in Darwin and in Townsville, and both areas are horribly hot and humid almost all year around, you can't go swimming because of the crocs, and there are always mosquitoes. Darwin, in particular, has a couple of months they call "The Buildup", which is period just before the monsoons, when it's hot and humid, but it refuses to rain. It drives people mad (quite literally: there's a significant rise in psychosis around that time).

The Tropics aren't all fun and games, which is why I'm not surprised at all that world wide, there's a big difference in life expectancy.
 
2012-11-22 08:18:00 AM

maddermaxx: dervish16108: Australia has the largest tropical landmass among developed nations and JCU vice chancellor Sandra Harding said a citizen of the country's tropical north typically died two-and-a-half years earlier than one in the south.

I found that interesting. I would think that people living in Hawaii or tropical parts of Japan (like these folks) for instance would enjoy a long life.

Northern Australia is almost entirely rural, has many small remote settlements, which generally means shorter life spans, and has a much higher proportion of Aboriginals, who sadly have a much shorter life expectancy than the Australian average for a whole raft of reasons.

The reason that it's far less developed in general is because the Tropics in Australia suck to live in. I have family living in Darwin and in Townsville, and both areas are horribly hot and humid almost all year around, you can't go swimming because of the crocs, and there are always mosquitoes. Darwin, in particular, has a couple of months they call "The Buildup", which is period just before the monsoons, when it's hot and humid, but it refuses to rain. It drives people mad (quite literally: there's a significant rise in psychosis around that time).

The Tropics aren't all fun and games, which is why I'm not surprised at all that world wide, there's a big difference in life expectancy.


Very interesting, thanks! I had assumed tropical Australia was some kind of paradise.
 
2012-11-22 08:24:33 AM

Scythed: The Tropics are universally recognized as having the shiattiest living standards and poorest development on the planet. I'm surprised that the difference in life expectancy isn't greater, frankly.


And what do you know, Wikipedia lists Singapore (right along the equator), as having the 7th longest life expectancy on the planet.
 
2012-11-22 08:33:00 AM
As a guy who grew up in the tropics, I can hardly wait to kick
 
2012-11-22 08:40:15 AM

dprathbun: As a guy who grew up in the tropics, I can hardly wait to kick


I'm still in the tropics so...

/I'd imagine the lack of proper health care adds a lot to this problem.
/on St. Croix we've got one hospital, no backup. Anything serious means flying half an hour to Puerto Rico.
/and this is US turf. Go down island and it gets far worse.
 
2012-11-22 08:40:30 AM

dervish16108: maddermaxx: dervish16108: Australia has the largest tropical landmass among developed nations and JCU vice chancellor Sandra Harding said a citizen of the country's tropical north typically died two-and-a-half years earlier than one in the south.

I found that interesting. I would think that people living in Hawaii or tropical parts of Japan (like these folks) for instance would enjoy a long life.

Northern Australia is almost entirely rural, has many small remote settlements, which generally means shorter life spans, and has a much higher proportion of Aboriginals, who sadly have a much shorter life expectancy than the Australian average for a whole raft of reasons.

The reason that it's far less developed in general is because the Tropics in Australia suck to live in. I have family living in Darwin and in Townsville, and both areas are horribly hot and humid almost all year around, you can't go swimming because of the crocs, and there are always mosquitoes. Darwin, in particular, has a couple of months they call "The Buildup", which is period just before the monsoons, when it's hot and humid, but it refuses to rain. It drives people mad (quite literally: there's a significant rise in psychosis around that time).

The Tropics aren't all fun and games, which is why I'm not surprised at all that world wide, there's a big difference in life expectancy.

Very interesting, thanks! I had assumed tropical Australia was some kind of paradise.


There are some absolutely beautiful islands off our cost - Whitsundays in particular are amazing, and definitely feel a bit like paradise to visit, but I think they're technically sub-tropical. A bit further up the coast there are beautiful areas, and it's a great place to visit, but (as I mentioned), not that great to live in long term.
 
2012-11-22 09:06:43 AM
You don't outswim a hurricane. You climb half-way up a mid-growth palm tree and tie yourself to it, facing away from it. You'll get wet, but you'll survive.
 
2012-11-22 09:31:47 AM

way south: dprathbun: As a guy who grew up in the tropics, I can hardly wait to kick

I'm still in the tropics so...

/I'd imagine the lack of proper health care adds a lot to this problem.
/on St. Croix we've got one hospital, no backup. Anything serious means flying half an hour to Puerto Rico.
/and this is US turf. Go down island and it gets far worse.


Ah, Santa Cruz. My home island (1964-1968, 1974-1975)! When I was a kid, we had swim (CaribAir) to San Juan for decompression. Up hill. Both ways.

/Now, get the f*ck off my beach!
 
2012-11-22 09:50:04 AM
hmm.. 70 years living in the tropics or 77 years living in Winnipeg. Decisions Decisions.
 
2012-11-22 10:26:28 AM

naughtyrev: You don't outswim a hurricane. You climb half-way up a mid-growth palm tree and tie yourself to it, facing away from it. You'll get wet, but you'll survive.


Perhaps. People have survived in trees. Although as Ron (Tater Salad) White pointed out, it's not *that* the wind is blowing; it's *what* the wind is blowing.
 
2012-11-22 10:34:30 AM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: the tropics are third-world hellholes wracked by tribal war?



That's a pretty good description of Florida.
 
2012-11-22 10:37:58 AM

dprathbun: way south: dprathbun: As a guy who grew up in the tropics, I can hardly wait to kick

I'm still in the tropics so...

/I'd imagine the lack of proper health care adds a lot to this problem.
/on St. Croix we've got one hospital, no backup. Anything serious means flying half an hour to Puerto Rico.
/and this is US turf. Go down island and it gets far worse.

Ah, Santa Cruz. My home island (1964-1968, 1974-1975)! When I was a kid, we had swim (CaribAir) to San Juan for decompression. Up hill. Both ways.

/Now, get the f*ck off my beach!


You'd hardly recognize the place now.
A bunch of chucklefarks got into power and drove the electricity rate to 50 cents a kwh, Hess/Hovensa closed, and the average murder rate is over fifty people a year.

/Your beach looks like d-day just happened on it.
/but no hurricanes this year, so it's not all bad.
/send canned goods, ammunition.
 
2012-11-22 11:03:02 AM

KerwoodDerby: Left all but unsaid in FTA was the observation that life expectancy in the tropics hinges largely on external factors (nutrition, violence, political oppression, and infectious disease) as opposed to intenal factors such as genetics and personal food choice.

Hmmm...


From TFA:

Overall mortality in the region was affected by disease, conflict, poverty and food insecurity, the study said. Investment in social services, such as health and education, as well as access to water, sanitation and medical technology, were also important factors.
 
2012-11-22 11:19:12 AM

way south: dprathbun: way south: dprathbun: As a guy who grew up in the tropics, I can hardly wait to kick

I'm still in the tropics so...

/I'd imagine the lack of proper health care adds a lot to this problem.
/on St. Croix we've got one hospital, no backup. Anything serious means flying half an hour to Puerto Rico.
/and this is US turf. Go down island and it gets far worse.

Ah, Santa Cruz. My home island (1964-1968, 1974-1975)! When I was a kid, we had swim (CaribAir) to San Juan for decompression. Up hill. Both ways.

/Now, get the f*ck off my beach!

You'd hardly recognize the place now.
A bunch of chucklefarks got into power and drove the electricity rate to 50 cents a kwh, Hess/Hovensa closed, and the average murder rate is over fifty people a year.

/Your beach looks like d-day just happened on it.
/but no hurricanes this year, so it's not all bad.
/send canned goods, ammunition.


Yeah, the change between '68 & '74 was pretty horrific for me. Unfortunately, I can imagine what an additional three and a half decades have wrought.

/Not to be confused with South Park 16-11 Link
//eip
 
2012-11-22 11:28:18 AM
Well duh - the cold preserves and fire consumes.
 
2012-11-22 11:38:20 AM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Could it be because most countries in the tropics are third-world hellholes wracked by tribal war?


Presidente, the people are revolting!

Despite all I do for them on the island.
 
2012-11-22 11:39:49 AM
Well, lots of those tropical banana republics are always being subverted by lefty guerrillas, and everyone knows left handers die 7 years sooner, so it all makes sense.
 
2012-11-22 12:46:45 PM
I live on and off in colombia and despite the farc they great healthcare and a ton of old people and hot women.
 
2012-11-22 02:06:50 PM
The "State of the Tropics" study, run by 13 institutions across 12 countries, reported that people living in the world's tropical zones in 2010 had an average life expectancy of 64.4 years.

Southeast Asia saw the biggest improvements in life expectancy in the 60 years to 2010, adding 26.7 years to the average lifespan,


So in 1950, the life expectancy of someone in Southeast Asia was 37.7? And that isn't counting infant mortality? Holy Crap! I though numbers that bad were limited to the 1800s and before! Though I suppose many places in the tropics are still living at 1800s level technology and health care levels.
 
2012-11-22 03:55:32 PM

KerwoodDerby: Left all but unsaid in FTA was the observation that life expectancy in the tropics hinges largely on external factors (nutrition, violence, political oppression, and infectious disease) as opposed to intenal factors such as genetics and personal food choice.

Hmmm...


There are a lot of factors, but the biggest one is chronic malaria. That shiat wears you down.
 
2012-11-22 03:59:12 PM

dervish16108: maddermaxx: dervish16108: Australia has the largest tropical landmass among developed nations and JCU vice chancellor Sandra Harding said a citizen of the country's tropical north typically died two-and-a-half years earlier than one in the south.

I found that interesting. I would think that people living in Hawaii or tropical parts of Japan (like these folks) for instance would enjoy a long life.

Northern Australia is almost entirely rural, has many small remote settlements, which generally means shorter life spans, and has a much higher proportion of Aboriginals, who sadly have a much shorter life expectancy than the Australian average for a whole raft of reasons.

The reason that it's far less developed in general is because the Tropics in Australia suck to live in. I have family living in Darwin and in Townsville, and both areas are horribly hot and humid almost all year around, you can't go swimming because of the crocs, and there are always mosquitoes. Darwin, in particular, has a couple of months they call "The Buildup", which is period just before the monsoons, when it's hot and humid, but it refuses to rain. It drives people mad (quite literally: there's a significant rise in psychosis around that time).

The Tropics aren't all fun and games, which is why I'm not surprised at all that world wide, there's a big difference in life expectancy.

Very interesting, thanks! I had assumed tropical Australia was some kind of paradise.


Look up "gympie gympie".
 
2012-11-22 06:51:05 PM

Dull Cow Eyes: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: the tropics are third-world hellholes wracked by tribal war?


That's a pretty good description of Florida.


From what I hear on the internets, there are twelve tribes that have recently moved into the area that have caused some consternation amongst the native wait staff, and also among native Christmas light owners.
 
2012-11-25 02:25:27 AM

dervish16108: I found that interesting. I would think that people living in Hawaii or tropical parts of Japan (like these folks) for instance would enjoy a long life.


They do. The average is dragged down by all the third-world tropical places with their Malaria, Dengue, and everything else.
 
2012-11-25 01:00:13 PM
way south,

What is it like living on a Caribbean island? Do people get "island fever"? Other than tourism, what types of industry / job growth is there?

/ would love to live somewhere like that and help plants, animals, water, etc
// hates shiatty people who crowd nice places
 
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