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2012-11-22 12:16:09 AM  
That's Nevada City, California
 
2012-11-22 12:19:14 AM  
But I have a permit for not having a permit.
 
2012-11-22 12:19:25 AM  
How very christian of them.

>arresting you if you're homeless and don't have a permit

Because criminializing the homeless is going to make the problem go away. Right.
 
2012-11-22 12:19:34 AM  
bout time someone thought of this.
 
2012-11-22 12:19:59 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: That's Nevada City, California


What he said.
 
2012-11-22 12:20:25 AM  
img696.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-22 12:22:29 AM  
What an asshole
 
2012-11-22 12:22:34 AM  
So the homeless end up sleeping in the city jails instead of in the street. How is this a good deal for the town?
 
2012-11-22 12:22:39 AM  
The police chief is to give out about 6 to 10 permits initially, and will look to review the program in 6 months to check whether it is working. Wickham has identified at least 60 homeless people in the immediate community



They're gonna need a bigger jail.
 
2012-11-22 12:23:20 AM  
Wish we hadn't gone to war in Iraq a few years ago. We'd have a lot more money to tackle these social issues.
 
2012-11-22 12:24:38 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Wish we hadn't gone to war in Iraq a few years ago. We'd have a lot more money to tackle these social issues.


Why do you hate our troops?
 
2012-11-22 12:26:46 AM  
If only there were a shelter of some kind
 
2012-11-22 12:26:47 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: AverageAmericanGuy: Wish we hadn't gone to war in Iraq a few years ago. We'd have a lot more money to tackle these social issues.

Why do you hate our troops?


Because they're mostly dumbfarks who couldn't make it in the private sector and signed up to be professional welfare cases, but that's not the issue right now.
 
2012-11-22 12:27:52 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Wish we hadn't gone to war in Iraq a few years ago. We'd have a lot more money to tackle these social issues.


Also, more people coming home injured means more people relying on social programs. No one comes out ahead.
 
2012-11-22 12:28:30 AM  
bubo_sibiricus
How very christian of them.

>arresting you if you're homeless and don't have a permit

Because criminializing the homeless is going to make the problem go away. Right.


supply-side-jesus.jpg
 
2012-11-22 12:28:46 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

What?
 
2012-11-22 12:29:20 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Lionel Mandrake: AverageAmericanGuy: Wish we hadn't gone to war in Iraq a few years ago. We'd have a lot more money to tackle these social issues.

Why do you hate our troops?

Because they're mostly dumbfarks who couldn't make it in the private sector and signed up to be professional welfare cases, but that's not the issue right now.


I like your world. Beats the hell out of the one I live in where you have nearly a 100% high school diploma rate and most are college graduates who believe in something more than you could ever understand.
 
2012-11-22 12:29:28 AM  

trappedspirit: If only there were a shelter of some kind


Nevada City isn't the greatest town in the whole world; it's a piss-poor little armpit of a town (at least the only time I was there). They don't have a whole lot of money and you could probably fit their entire city revenue in a thimble and still have room to piss. Not that that makes this regulation any better, but I daresay they don't have lots of free cash to spend on a homeless shelter. If there are 60 homeless people in town, that's probably a good 10% of the local population.
 
2012-11-22 12:30:31 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: AverageAmericanGuy: Wish we hadn't gone to war in Iraq a few years ago. We'd have a lot more money to tackle these social issues.

Why do you hate our troops?


Also, the person you quoted is an idiot. If we hadn't had the war, Republicans would have insisted on more tax cuts to fix everything.
 
2012-11-22 12:30:55 AM  

Yogimus: AverageAmericanGuy: Lionel Mandrake: AverageAmericanGuy: Wish we hadn't gone to war in Iraq a few years ago. We'd have a lot more money to tackle these social issues.

Why do you hate our troops?

Because they're mostly dumbfarks who couldn't make it in the private sector and signed up to be professional welfare cases, but that's not the issue right now.

I like your world. Beats the hell out of the one I live in where you have nearly a 100% high school diploma rate and most are college graduates who believe in something more than you could ever understand.


I didn't say anything about them not being educated or having strong beliefs.

Hell, graduates from Bob Jones University have education and strong beliefs.
 
2012-11-22 12:31:59 AM  
Poverty is not a crime
 
2012-11-22 12:32:00 AM  
I guess you can't be a prospector in Nevada anymore.

/We don't need no stinkin' badges.
 
2012-11-22 12:32:16 AM  

bubo_sibiricus: Because criminializing the homeless is going to make the problem go away. Right.


It will... literally.

Although, I'd love to live somewhere that they can only find 60 homeless people. That's a drop in the bucket compared to my area. They could practically elect their own homeless congressman.
 
2012-11-22 12:32:46 AM  
What's so taboo about living in your car? Why is it illegal almost everywhere to sleep in it overnight?
 
2012-11-22 12:34:20 AM  
FTA: Any homeless person found sleeping in public without a permit will be arrested.


Genuise at work.
 
2012-11-22 12:34:46 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: That's Nevada City, California


I see this has been addressed.
 
2012-11-22 12:36:05 AM  

GAT_00: If we hadn't had the war, Republicans would have insisted on more tax cuts to fix everything.


That's a pretty defeatist attitude.
 
2012-11-22 12:36:32 AM  
And have them clogging up the jail system. Brilliant!
 
2012-11-22 12:37:30 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: GAT_00: If we hadn't had the war, Republicans would have insisted on more tax cuts to fix everything.

That's a pretty defeatist attitude.


Nah, defeatist would be assuming they'd actually manage to pass them. Assuming they'd ask for them is based on years of precedent.
 
2012-11-22 12:39:48 AM  

Gyrfalcon: trappedspirit: If only there were a shelter of some kind

Nevada City isn't the greatest town in the whole world; it's a piss-poor little armpit of a town (at least the only time I was there). They don't have a whole lot of money and you could probably fit their entire city revenue in a thimble and still have room to piss. Not that that makes this regulation any better, but I daresay they don't have lots of free cash to spend on a homeless shelter. If there are 60 homeless people in town, that's probably a good 10% of the local population.


When were you there last?

/there's 3-4,000 people in that city
 
2012-11-22 12:39:57 AM  
 
2012-11-22 12:41:24 AM  
And the meek shall inherit the nevermind
 
2012-11-22 12:43:16 AM  
Makes me wonder if the jail is run by a corporation, and the police chief wants some kick backs...

Frankly, I am not seeing any other reason to do this. What a waste of tax payer dollars. If I lived there, I would be very pissed.
 
2012-11-22 12:45:00 AM  

cyks: FTA: Any homeless person found sleeping in public without a permit will be arrested.


Genuise

at work.

*mustnotgrammarnazimustnotgrammarnazimustnotgrammarnazi*
 
2012-11-22 12:45:53 AM  

bubo_sibiricus: How very christian liberal of them.

>arresting you if you're homeless and don't have a permit

Because criminializing the homeless is going to make the problem go away. Right.


Oh my, we really do feel sorry for the homeless, just so they're not around here.
 
2012-11-22 12:45:56 AM  

Gyrfalcon: trappedspirit: If only there were a shelter of some kind

Nevada City isn't the greatest town in the whole world; it's a piss-poor little armpit of a town (at least the only time I was there). They don't have a whole lot of money and you could probably fit their entire city revenue in a thimble and still have room to piss. Not that that makes this regulation any better, but I daresay they don't have lots of free cash to spend on a homeless shelter. If there are 60 homeless people in town, that's probably a good 10% of the local population.


Actually, Nevada City looks pretty nice to me.
 
2012-11-22 12:47:09 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Lionel Mandrake: AverageAmericanGuy: Wish we hadn't gone to war in Iraq a few years ago. We'd have a lot more money to tackle these social issues.

Why do you hate our troops?

Because they're mostly dumbfarks who couldn't make it in the private sector and signed up to be professional welfare cases, but that's not the issue right now.


Citation, please. (BTW, you're full of shiat.)
 
2012-11-22 12:48:56 AM  

Yogimus: AverageAmericanGuy: Lionel Mandrake: AverageAmericanGuy: Wish we hadn't gone to war in Iraq a few years ago. We'd have a lot more money to tackle these social issues.

Why do you hate our troops?

Because they're mostly dumbfarks who couldn't make it in the private sector and signed up to be professional welfare cases, but that's not the issue right now.

I like your world. Beats the hell out of the one I live in where you have nearly a 100% high school diploma rate and most are college graduates who believe in something more than you could ever understand.


This.

And he never will understand.
 
2012-11-22 12:51:32 AM  

BummerDuck: Makes me wonder if the jail is run by a corporation, and the police chief wants some kick backs...

Frankly, I am not seeing any other reason to do this. What a waste of tax payer dollars. If I lived there, I would be very pissed.


Town's economy is based on tourism and video productions. Image is important.

I'm wondering how they decide who gets the limited number of permits.
 
2012-11-22 12:52:50 AM  

RanDomino: Stay for the video of the crazy lady, who has a care and a house, screaming at homeless people a couple of days ago in Madison.


i needed resolution! did the cops come or what?
 
2012-11-22 12:54:44 AM  
Happy Thanksgiving assholes.
 
2012-11-22 12:57:56 AM  
this is the down side of not having the benefits of religion in your life. many people learn of charity, kindness, benevolence and the importance of doing good acts in a house of worship. the increase of godless heathens in positions of power (political office, law enforcement) is giving rise to absolute evil being in control. feed a homeless person in the right park in FLA? that's an arrestin'. you're a homeless fellow in the right town in CA with no where to go? that's an arrestin'.

people that cannot handle what little power their position gives them need to quickly be removed from that job. meanwhile you haters keep on pissing on the bible and enjoy as America turns into a land of soulless suffering for those not blessed as you.
 
2012-11-22 12:57:57 AM  
Subby fail: Nevada City is not Nevada State. Even if it were in Nevada like California City is in California, it would still be just a city.
 
2012-11-22 12:58:24 AM  
FutureWars
What's so taboo about living in your car? Why is it illegal almost everywhere to sleep in it overnight?

It's not directed at the homeless people themselves. It's directed at working people, to attach as much terror as possible to the idea of poverty, to keep them working harder for less money under worse conditions. Homeless people are made an example of, as a warning.

Furthermore, for middle-class liberals, the existence of homeless people is the manifestation of a flaw in their supposedly perfect system which serves them so well. They want to have capitalism (because they owe their prosperity to it) while also getting to feel like it works for everyone, which is impossible. They reconcile the contradiction by either recognizing that capitalism is irrational and inhuman and become radicals, or lash out against the threat to either their sense of being a good person or their privilege by attempting to destroy the things that remind them that they can't have it both ways.
 
2012-11-22 12:58:50 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: AverageAmericanGuy: Lionel Mandrake: AverageAmericanGuy: Wish we hadn't gone to war in Iraq a few years ago. We'd have a lot more money to tackle these social issues.

Why do you hate our troops?

Because they're mostly dumbfarks who couldn't make it in the private sector and signed up to be professional welfare cases, but that's not the issue right now.

Citation, please. (BTW, you're full of shiat.)


As unemployment rises, military enlistment rises

Gang members join military to get training

Military veterans unfit for private sector jobs

Military as government welfare
 
2012-11-22 01:00:15 AM  

Gwyrddu: So the homeless end up sleeping in the city jails instead of in the street. How is this a good deal for the town?


Its like a homeless shelter, only you *have* to go (or leave the area). I can see the logic in it, if the city's only goal was to keep the sidewalks aesthetically pleasing for the other residents.
 
2012-11-22 01:02:18 AM  

RanDomino: Furthermore, for middle-class liberals, the existence of homeless people is the manifestation of a flaw in their supposedly perfect system which serves them so well. They want to have capitalism (because they owe their prosperity to it) while also getting to feel like it works for everyone, which is impossible. They reconcile the contradiction by either recognizing that capitalism is irrational and inhuman and become radicals, or lash out against the threat to either their sense of being a good person or their privilege by attempting to destroy the things that remind them that they can't have it both ways.


Is it strange that i read this in this guy's voice:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-22 01:06:11 AM  
Well now that's all I can see!

/Will somebody get rid of demented Santa?!
//that was probably obscure
 
2012-11-22 01:06:32 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Lionel Mandrake: AverageAmericanGuy: Wish we hadn't gone to war in Iraq a few years ago. We'd have a lot more money to tackle these social issues.

Why do you hate our troops?

Because they're mostly dumbfarks who couldn't make it in the private sector and signed up to be professional welfare cases, but that's not the issue right now.


Ooh ooh, what about military contractors who are ostensibly "private-sector" but function as giant military money sinks. Like or hate? Making it in the private sector or dumbfarks?

/Step 1, fan flames
//Step 2, run
 
2012-11-22 01:07:57 AM  
As a traveling contractor who is basically homeless in Nevada, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
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