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2012-11-21 08:09:29 PM
3 votes:

Rufus Lee King: SpeedingLunatic: I'm paying $800/month for insurance (with a 10k deductible no less), why should your irresponsible ass get any help?

Gangbangers shooting each other over drug deals get free (paid for by me, in other words) treatment in emergency rooms, hospital stays, et cetera. Where's my relief?


You do know that Whites are the biggest recipients of public aid, right? Also gangbangers aren't getting free care. They just don't give a fark about paying their bills.
2012-11-21 08:47:18 PM
2 votes:

Rufus Lee King: Recovering from a heart attack, here. Less than a month ago: no insurance. Bills stacking up already. It was either get carted off in an ambulance or die.

Anyone gonna help me?

Nope; I'm the wrong color.


Oh, you're black or brown. I thought you wuz a honkey.
2012-11-21 07:55:29 PM
2 votes:
if you wanna perform surgery on your own body, suture self.
2012-11-21 07:53:09 PM
2 votes:
I removed a cyst with a deep core on my inner thigh. If it weren't for the small scar I wouldn't even know where it was.

Here's another interesting operation I did on myself:

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I religiously put duct tape on this thing for 3 months. Changed it every day. Every week I would debride it with a ceramic knife until I got it down to the bottom most layer of the dermis. Once the rough tissue was all gone I let it grow back without the tape. I would cut grooves into my finger to synthesize knuckles and prevent the formation of contractures. 

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2012-11-21 07:50:46 PM
2 votes:

BronyMedic: AbiNormal: I don't know how much pain you have to be in to stab yourself in the perineum(taint) and I don't want to know.

You should come see someone get a large peri-rectal abcess drained.

The smell is akin to fermented feta cheese in a freshly opened septic tank. And the pus is under pressure, so it's common to note that it takes off across the room.


Loving the visual! The imagined smell... not so much.

Reminds me of my first 2 week training session with my old Guard unit. We would have this huge steak fry/kegger on the last full day. I was just about to turn 19, and had a rather low tolerance, still. I get my cup, and proceed to drink myself into the standard Farker stupor. Prayed a few times to the porcelain Goddess. The last run to the Head, I didn't make it, and horked all over myself. My squad turned on every shower head, threw me in the middle and told me to throw those clothes into a trash bag. Smehow I managed to do that, dry off and get into clean clothes. One of my buddies then drags me to the medics to hook me to an IV. I lay down on the bed and watch him stick me. My blood shot all the way to the foot of the bed. Over the course of the next hour, I squeezed 3 bags into my system.

I tell you, there's nothing like ice-cold saline driving into your veins to give you that sober feeling.

/worst hangover I've ever had.
//then had to wake up and cook breakfast...
2012-11-21 07:22:27 PM
2 votes:
Usually you can survive minor surgery on yourself, assuming you don't go too deep and sever an artery.

What kills you is the gangrene and sepsis afterward because the knife was contaminated or you didn't suture the wound properly and you got dirt into the bloodstream. Or because you sterilized your KNIFE but forgot you also need to sterilize the suture material and nothing introduces bacteria into an incision like dirty sutures.

And of course anything where you open up your abdominal cavity will kill you, either from severing an artery or more likely post-operative infection or shock. But don't let that stop you.
2012-11-21 04:20:17 PM
2 votes:
newspaper.li
"Hey guys, what's goin on in this thread?"
2012-11-21 04:10:17 PM
2 votes:
I just got back from the dentist where I got a cleaning and a crown fixed. Thank goodness I have good dental insurance. Dental work isn't cheap.

I guess I could have waited and gone the old "whiskey and pliers" route.
2012-11-22 11:28:16 AM
1 votes:
If you're going to do self surgery, you'd better have a very high tolerance to pain. Kind of like those guys who, every Friday night, go out, get drunk and get into fist fights for fun.

Ages ago, while considering a career in medicine, I obtained a book which was essentially a documentary of a surgeon in the 1700's. I recall his commenting that the military hospital ward he worked in was pretty good, since, in winter, water in patient jugs only froze around dawn.

He removed a bladder stone the size of a hens egg from a land owner with no anesthetic, slicing through his groin as assistants held the man down, reaching in with his bare hand, fishing out the stone and sewing him up.

Survivability back then was helped if you had an immune system able to bend steel bars and a tolerance for pain that could kill a cow.

Dental work was a nightmare, often done by barbers with basic tools. Forget about fillings, the tooth was yanked with pliers, sometimes after being loosened by being struck with a metal bar and a small hammer. If you've ever seen a dissected human skull, where they've removed the layer of bone covering the dental processes, you'll note that your teeth have roots usually twice as long as the exposed part, some reaching far up into the skull.

The physician of the book carried a huge, black cigar in his Gladstone Bag, along with his medical supplies. Made from very strong tobacco, it was not smoked. Rather, prior to some operations, it was shoved up the rectum of some patients and left there for a bit so they could absorb the nicotine which would help relax their muscles.

Afterwards, the cigar was removed, wiped off, shoved back into the bag, ready for the next patient.

Since no one knew about germs, the survival rate tended to be low, but not low enough to stop the doctors from performing major surgeries.

The 'Cult of Trepanation' -- drilling a hole in your head -- has been around for centuries with followers doing it to themselves and, surprisingly, many surviving. Aside from deep brain surgery, there are very few reasons to use this procedure, yet determined followers claim it cures many ills and expands the consciousness.

Penetrating the dura -- the membrane covering the brain itself under the skull -- is asking for trouble, especially if it gets infected. The Dura also helps retain the cerebral fluid the brain needs to float in. Contaminate that and a host of nasty things can happen -- including death.

Strong booze eventually was used as an anesthetic and a sterilizing agent -- but imagine waking up with a hideous hangover and being in hideous pain from a surgical procedure.

Pain, back then, was a normal part of people's lives. Things like broken bones tended to be considered minor annoyances. Exposed to germs with no antibiotics, only the strong survived. However, they tended to die of 'old age' in their 40's and 50's.
Things like open heart surgery did not exist. No one knew how to crack open the chest and keep a person breathing as they worked on the heart. Many a serious bone break, where one end protruded from the skin, developed ostiomylitus (SP) an infection of the bone that basically could rot it out or periodically reappear as a suppurating ulcer.

Even today, the condition is extremely difficult to treat.

Surgeons during wars tended to amputate a lot of limbs, depending on speed since the patient was often awake and loudly protesting. Many a surgical assistant lost fingers assisting the Dr if they got in the way.

BTW, cauterizing or slapping red hot iron on a bleeding wound was more painful than you could imagine. Plus, patients often spent days in agony after surgery, with nearly nothing to ease their suffering, which might explain the rather grim attitudes forefathers had about many things.

When you grow up in a world where pain is common and often lots of it, your empathy tends to be low.

Major pain, BTW, can severely injure you and shorten your lifespan. Your heart rate soars, along with blood pressure, and can cause damage ranging from strokes to heart attacks. Sitting in an ER for two hours trying to pass a kidney stone before being seen by the staff can cause you unbelievable agony and can do more damage than the stone itself.

However, thanks to new laws, physicians can't just dope you up anymore unless they want to risk jail. So, you get to suffer.
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2012-11-22 09:39:59 AM
1 votes:
When I was in my 20's I accidentally shot myself in the right ankle with a .22 pistol. I took off my boot and could see the bullet between the skin and bone. My ankle was numb at that moment so I took it out myself. I realized I probably needed a tetanus shot and it really started to hurt so I went to the hospital not knowing if the bone fractured. Of course and the hospital called the police. The ER nurse wheeled me towards the door then turned me around and said I have to know, how did it happen? I explained the details of the accident and the doctor looked passed me and said "is that good officer?". I turned to see a cop standing behind me.

Years later a friend stabbed me in the left thigh while playing with a Buck knife. It was deep wound so I went to the same ER and got stitched up. As the nurse wheeled me towards the door he turned me around and said so tell me how it happened? I immediately turned around and said, Hello officer to the cop standing behind me.

I've decided that the next time I'm in that situation, I'm going to tell a wild story about a homosexual affair with the chief of police and how he injured me in a rage. It's not a false statement to an officer since the officer hasn't made his presence known at that point.
2012-11-22 12:26:08 AM
1 votes:
ObamaCare is about bleeding working America in order to pay for more voters for the Democrat Mafia. That and institutionalizing the bureaucracy that will make your life hell.
2012-11-22 12:24:17 AM
1 votes:

Dumski: Ha ha.....I live in Canada, so I'm getting a real kick out of these......

/seriously, you yanks are getting hosed. So what if I have to wait 2 years for my hip replacement? $100/mo per couple for unlimited coverage, and, my employer pays for that and medications etc. to boot.
No wonder Americans are forced to perform their own surgeries. Jeez.


well two years is obviously unacceptable. my dad tried to go just a year without a hip replacement because he had contractual commitments to fulfill in a personal services contract and so f*cked out his back trying to compensate that he almost made himself an invalid.

but anyway, that just means you all have smart policy overall, but are extreme tightasses to the point of absurdity with the details.

no where is it written that with universal healthcare you must be retarded about waiting times to scrimp and save money at a massive loss of quality of life.
the long waiting times/universal healthcare or/vs doctors whenever you want them argument is a false choice.
and you shouldn't put up with it if that is the load of shiat your government is trying to sell you.
2012-11-21 11:26:41 PM
1 votes:

ADHD Librarian: relcec: Rufus Lee King: SpeedingLunatic: I'm paying $800/month for insurance (with a 10k deductible no less), why should your irresponsible ass get any help?

Gangbangers shooting each other over drug deals get free (paid for by me, in other words) treatment in emergency rooms, hospital stays, et cetera. Where's my relief?

thiink of it this way.
it is free if you don't pay for it.
so maybe don't pay for it.
do you own a home? what state? do they allow medical liens? do you plan on moving any time soon? do you have ethics and principles that might be affected?
alternativly, you should at least talk to their contracting department and get them to give you the discount they give to decent sized insurers.

At this point in all these health care threads I stand up and say a prayer of thanks.

"Australia, Australia, Australia, we love you. Amen"
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Seriously, on a household income of about 155,000 we pay about $A160 a month for the 5 of us with no deductible. Now, obviously this is the evil of socialism and as such is much less efficient than a market driven system. Or, is it that I should be paying less but I am subsidising all those who earn less than me or who chose not to work at all? I get so confused sometimes and start believing crazy things (like $A160 being somehow less than $US800. Or a $A0 deductible being better than a $US10000 one).


there the government is on your side. here they are in cahoots with the industry. we just got a mandate to buy a private product with no price controls whatsoever.
in 1997 congress cut subsidies to residency education IN ORDER TO INCREASE DOCTORS SALARIES from the highest in the world, to several times higher than anywhere else inthe world.
it's a f*cking racket.
2012-11-21 11:26:04 PM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon:
Yeah, pretty much. Like I only half-jokingly said above, it's the infection afterward that will kill you from these minor surgeries.

But if you do that, and you start seeing red streaks going up your arm from the site of the wound, get to a doctor INSTANTLY. That's sepsis, and it will kill you, sooner rather than later. Had a friend who did something similar and waited almost too long. After a week in the hospital and lots of antibiotics, the doctors told him another 24 hours would have meant amputation and still might have meant death due to gangrene.


Yep, I hear ya. Pain will stop stop most people from doing any real damage. Nobody is going to try and remove a mole and, woopsies, cut an artery. But infections... Had a friend get a cat scratch that had text book lymph infection with beautiful runners spiraling up his arm. I sent in to the ER about 30 secs after seeing that. He started losing his vision about 5 mins after checking in with the triage nurse.

I'm cutting a blocked salivary gland out of my lip though so I don't get those nice warnings, but I'll take precautions.
2012-11-21 11:11:32 PM
1 votes:

relcec: Rufus Lee King: SpeedingLunatic: I'm paying $800/month for insurance (with a 10k deductible no less), why should your irresponsible ass get any help?

Gangbangers shooting each other over drug deals get free (paid for by me, in other words) treatment in emergency rooms, hospital stays, et cetera. Where's my relief?

thiink of it this way.
it is free if you don't pay for it.
so maybe don't pay for it.
do you own a home? what state? do they allow medical liens? do you plan on moving any time soon? do you have ethics and principles that might be affected?
alternativly, you should at least talk to their contracting department and get them to give you the discount they give to decent sized insurers.


At this point in all these health care threads I stand up and say a prayer of thanks.

"Australia, Australia, Australia, we love you. Amen"
a248.e.akamai.net

Seriously, on a household income of about 155,000 we pay about $A160 a month for the 5 of us with no deductible. Now, obviously this is the evil of socialism and as such is much less efficient than a market driven system. Or, is it that I should be paying less but I am subsidising all those who earn less than me or who chose not to work at all? I get so confused sometimes and start believing crazy things (like $A160 being somehow less than $US800. Or a $A0 deductible being better than a $US10000 one).
2012-11-21 10:42:57 PM
1 votes:

BigLuca: Eddie Ate Dynamite: As someone considering performing self-surgery, I'm getting a real kick out of this thread!

Not entirely sure you'd call it surgery, but I've got a nice little chunk of wood in my little finger. A large jagged piece of wood caught me in the hand and went pretty deep. Most of the wood stayed on the board but apparently a piece of the tip broke off. By the time the swelling went down it was completely healed up, and now I've got this lump in there.

Doesn't really bother me except when I hit it just right on something and it pushes into the muscle underneath. I'm tempted to just leave it there and see what my body does with it, if anything. Also tempted to razor blade and tweezers that shiat out.


That was an epic rant. Concerning your chunk of wood: try some Ammonium bituminosulfonate, commonly called ichthammol or "drawing salve." Stay away from anything that says "homeopathic." Put a small SMALL dab of that on your trouble area and cover it with a band-aid. Do that everyday for a week or so and your body should push it out, or far enough for you to get a grip on it and pull it out the rest of the way.


Yeah, pretty much. Like I only half-jokingly said above, it's the infection afterward that will kill you from these minor surgeries.

But if you do that, and you start seeing red streaks going up your arm from the site of the wound, get to a doctor INSTANTLY. That's sepsis, and it will kill you, sooner rather than later. Had a friend who did something similar and waited almost too long. After a week in the hospital and lots of antibiotics, the doctors told him another 24 hours would have meant amputation and still might have meant death due to gangrene.
2012-11-21 10:00:40 PM
1 votes:
Heh. I have a tendency for ingrown toenails, made worse due to my apparent affinity to get my toes smashed on a regular basis. After walking around in pain for a week while waiting for the appointment, I finally just lopped it off.

Not the toe, heh.

Just about 1/3 of an inch of the left side of the toenail. Tried a dremmel cutter, but it was too hot - actually got a burn, had to saw through it slowly with an actual medical scapel. Also had to remove all the overhanging flesh, which was not the hard part. The hard part was cutting/pulling it loose from the back.

Had my foot appointment, and my podiatrist said that while I did a reasonable job, it was not what he'd consider a professional one. Also, because I didn't use any acid or heat to cauterize the growth palate, it'd come right back. Then he thought about what he said, narrowed his eyes me and said that was not him giving me free license to perform my own foot surgery and that I should not consider cauterizing my own wounds or brushing acid on my feet.

Then he used a frickin' laser to cauterize it, and wouldn't let me look, because apparently ~some~ people get woozy at the sight of blood, or something. I think we both chuckled at that.
2012-11-21 09:52:40 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Podna: I drained my knee when it was filled from puss from a staph staff infecion

FTFY

/pet peeve


Your pet peeve is seeing staph, short for staphylococcus, spelled correctly, yet you have no issue with someone leaving the "t" out of infection? I am bemused.
2012-11-21 09:33:12 PM
1 votes:

croesius: BigLuca: I just ordered some some reverse cutting 3/8inch circular needles and #4 silk thread on Amazon, and some fish antibiotics from a vet supply store about 4 hours ago, so I am really getting a kick etc etc. Not even kidding.

Already have the lidocaine, scalpels and syringes.

Wait...what?

Now I'm intrigued.


Antibiotics for fish. Some are packets of flakes, don't use those, they are really hard to dose. Others are tables with directions like, "use one tablet per gallon of water" and somewhere on the package it will say how many miligrams are per tablet. Those come from the same factory as the human drugs.

Of course: Not for human consumption. See your doctor for all medical needs. Only use medication from American pharmacies. Fish antibiotics do not have the same storage or safety requirements as human antibiotics. Void where prohibited by law.
2012-11-21 08:47:32 PM
1 votes:

SpeedingLunatic: Three Crooked Squirrels: The wife has her own policy and pays $1,200 per quarter, and she's had cancer. Regence BC/BS in Utah has tried everything they can do to get her off

Seems to me that should be your job...


It is our job. Once every three months. Can you pay your health insurance bill online? My wife can't. Why? The only reason I can possibly imagine is that they hope at the end of the month, she forgot to send her bill, tries to pay online, can't and mails it in late. Termination of coverage. Are you allowed to pay monthly? My wife isn't. Why? I can only imagine that they realize most people can come up with $400 at the end of the month, but hope we didn't budget properly for a $1,200 bill quarterly. Termination. We make a lot of money, we are very fortunate that way, but there are certainly people who don't budget properly and can't write four $1,200 checks a year. Has your cable bill ever failed to arrive? Ours arrives 12 time per year. Her quarterly healthcare bill arrives, like clockwork, 3 times a year. Coincidence? Maybe. Hoping for a missed payment? Maybe. Bill arriving on the 27th or so of the month dated on the first of the month, and postmarked on the 25th of the month? Happens regularly.

Bottom line is that we do treat it as our job. It's come to the point that we send every bill in certified/return receipt requested. They are stuck with her, and we'll make sure they don't wriggle out. 

ANNNNDDDD . . . as I preview my post, I see what you did there. fark. Well, I'm posting anyways, because fark BC/BS.
2012-11-21 08:32:22 PM
1 votes:

AbiNormal: I don't know how much pain you have to be in to stab yourself in the perineum(taint) and I don't want to know.


On the order of childbirth, but of course, with childbirth you're rewarded with a baby and passing a kidney stone results in a little rock in the toilet and blood in your piss.

I can picture the screw removal guy opening himself up and going, "Oh fark, allen screws? You have got to be farking kidding me!"
2012-11-21 08:29:06 PM
1 votes:

dopirt: Three Crooked Squirrels: Then that's almost certainly not what your insurance costs, douche.

No need for name-calling here. I am a 49 year old non-smoker whole lives in Dallas Texas. I pay $380/mo. for a $5000 deductible health insurance plan. My employer has nothing to do with this policy. It's only me.


I was responding to Silly Jesus, who apparently believes that what he pays for health insurance is what it costs, but doesn't know what his employer contributes.

I pay $258/mo for myself. Never had any significant health issues, so I have no idea what my deductible is. The wife has her own policy and pays $1,200 per quarter, and she's had cancer. Regence BC/BS in Utah has tried everything they can do to get her off, because she had cancer 11 years ago, but failed. I'm not sure what that has to add to the conversation, other than the fact that Silly Jesus believes that if the bill doesn't arrive in his mailbox, no one is paying for it.
2012-11-21 08:16:46 PM
1 votes:
that head surgery video is farken broodle

I'm so glad i never opted to become a surgeon
2012-11-21 08:09:55 PM
1 votes:
On the plus side, it looks like the insurance co has decided to pay for the $2600 'out of network' ambulance ride, after I appealed their denial.

/yes, a 1-day-old with a collapsed lung is an emergency, you idiots
2012-11-21 08:09:30 PM
1 votes:

make me some tea: I've removed skin tags from my armpits. While drunk, no less. Intentionally.

I sterilized a pair of scissors with alcohol, snipped, immediately put a paper towel with peroxide on it and held for about 5mins. Those suckers bleed a lot at first. Hurts like a biatch for about a day or two, then it's over.

I went to the doc to have him do the rest, he pretty much did the same thing I did and billed my insurance company $300. Hurt just as much too.


You're doing it wrong. The thing to do is twist the tags around as many times as you can, stopping just when it starts to hurt. Then put some tape over them to keep them from untwisting. The blood flow to them will stop and they'll dry up in a day or so, then fall off. (Either that, or something horrible will happen that I didn't think of when I tried it, resulting in pain, medical intervention, disfigurement and/or death. I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice.)
2012-11-21 08:02:59 PM
1 votes:
I tied my skin tags off tightly with thread and left them for a few days to fall off on their own. Painless.
2012-11-21 07:42:50 PM
1 votes:

AbiNormal: I don't know how much pain you have to be in to stab yourself in the perineum(taint) and I don't want to know.


I had a tiny (4mm) kidney stone. The pain was so comically surreal that I still barely believe the crap I did to survive it. If it had been as big as the one in TFA, I'd have happily stabbed myself anywhere, as long as it led to a quick death.
2012-11-21 07:39:37 PM
1 votes:

Rufus Lee King: Recovering from a heart attack, here. Less than a month ago: no insurance. Bills stacking up already. It was either get carted off in an ambulance or die.

Anyone gonna help me?

Nope; I'm the wrong color.


I'm paying $800/month for insurance (with a 10k deductible no less), why should your irresponsible ass get any help?
2012-11-21 07:37:23 PM
1 votes:

Seasons I'v Withered: self castration??? I bet that took some balls>

Zing


When I was training to be an EMT someone (I think it was the county medical examiner) brought in some pictures, and one was a guy who had been turned down for a sex change. He cut off the frank and the beans, and brought them with him to the hospital in a sandwich bag.
2012-11-21 07:37:01 PM
1 votes:
Try to find an anti-fog mirror

www.causticsodapodcast.com
2012-11-21 07:34:58 PM
1 votes:
Ouch ouch ouch
2012-11-21 07:31:43 PM
1 votes:

AbiNormal: I don't know how much pain you have to be in to stab yourself in the perineum(taint) and I don't want to know.


You should come see someone get a large peri-rectal abcess drained.

The smell is akin to fermented feta cheese in a freshly opened septic tank. And the pus is under pressure, so it's common to note that it takes off across the room.
2012-11-21 07:30:32 PM
1 votes:
I don't know how much pain you have to be in to stab yourself in the perineum(taint) and I don't want to know.
2012-11-21 07:25:11 PM
1 votes:

make me some tea: I've removed skin tags from my armpits. While drunk, no less. Intentionally.

I sterilized a pair of scissors with alcohol, snipped, immediately put a paper towel with peroxide on it and held for about 5mins. Those suckers bleed a lot at first. Hurts like a biatch for about a day or two, then it's over.

I went to the doc to have him do the rest, he pretty much did the same thing I did and billed my insurance company $300. Hurt just as much too.


I went to a derm with a pilar cyst and said, "Oh, by the way..." He did pretty much what you did (different disinfectant) and did not charge me. Always go to the derm with multiple things. They'll bill insurance for the justifiable thing and take care of the little things if they just involve a scissor or the frosty-freezy treatment.
2012-11-21 07:24:37 PM
1 votes:

Qwertyette: I once removed a large mole near my belly button by freezing it off with an Air Duster can turned upside down.

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How did that turn out? pics?
2012-11-21 07:22:48 PM
1 votes:
This bootstrap strawman meme is kinda stupid.
2012-11-21 07:16:33 PM
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: I once cut pea size ball of waxy puss out of my arm with an X-acto knife that I sterilized in vodak. I got only a tiny scar out of it which disappoints me. I wanted a cool, jagged scar.


I did the same, only it was my foot and closer to the size of a golf ball. (I had stepped on a sharp rock that ended up in my foot.)

I don't plan on doing that again. It was quite a mess.
2012-11-21 07:13:55 PM
1 votes:
I worked with a Russian ex-pat who defected in the late 80's, and had served in Afghanistan. He claims there was a guy in his unit who removed his own appendix with a pocket knife and vodka because the company doctor had such a poor record losing patients for even routine things.

He also claims they used to drink cheap Romanian aftershave when the vodka ran out by filtering it through a loaf of french bread, I.E. chop off an end like a cigar, pour the aftershave in and let it drain down to the bottom.

/CSB
2012-11-21 07:10:08 PM
1 votes:
Bad teeth? Just pull'em. Got a pliers or a C-clamp? Screwdriver? Hell, a needle-nose pliers will do it nicely.
2012-11-21 07:09:48 PM
1 votes:
I once cut pea size ball of waxy puss out of my arm with an X-acto knife that I sterilized in vodak. I got only a tiny scar out of it which disappoints me. I wanted a cool, jagged scar.
2012-11-21 07:02:39 PM
1 votes:
First thing I thought of was the Prometheus automated operating table.

2.bp.blogspot.com
2012-11-21 04:17:04 PM
1 votes:
I've removed skin tags from my armpits. While drunk, no less. Intentionally.

I sterilized a pair of scissors with alcohol, snipped, immediately put a paper towel with peroxide on it and held for about 5mins. Those suckers bleed a lot at first. Hurts like a biatch for about a day or two, then it's over.

I went to the doc to have him do the rest, he pretty much did the same thing I did and billed my insurance company $300. Hurt just as much too.
2012-11-21 02:59:33 PM
1 votes:
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Bootstraps' bootstraps
2012-11-21 02:38:20 PM
1 votes:
I once removed a large mole near my belly button by freezing it off with an Air Duster can turned upside down.

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