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(Talking Points Memo)   Intent on losing his job as Speaker, Boehner goes to the well one last time: Obamacare must go as part of any fiscal cliff deal   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 324
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2012-11-21 02:32:17 PM

Virtual Pariah: Now, I need to understand this.

If we go over the cliff, what does that entail exactly?

Return to Clinton era tax rates and Defense Sequestration?

If that's all, I may be ok with that.


clinton era tax rates return
2% payroll tax cuts eliminated
unemployment benefit extensions eliminated
AMT revises back to 2000 levels
$110 billion in annual spending cuts, split between defense and non-defense, plus 25% decline in Medicare disbursements.
Pell grants farked
 
2012-11-21 02:32:45 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Didn't he say not a month ago that the GOP had to give up on repealing ACA?


This is exactly what I was coming here to ask!

Do they realize that we can, I don't know, look up stuff that they have said?

The tin-foil hat wearer in me thinks he must have gotten his ears boxed by the Koch brothers over that statement.
 
2012-11-21 02:35:16 PM

Mr_Fabulous: Issue our demands for their immediate surrender! We have them just where we want them!


www.rumproast.com
 
2012-11-21 02:36:38 PM
REPUBLICANS HAVE WASTED 50 MILLION DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY TRYING TO REPEAL A BILL THAT IS PAID FOR AND GIVES AMERICANS HEALTHCARE

Domestic terrorists the lot of them.
 
2012-11-21 02:37:06 PM

mrshowrules: What is their goal?


chzemokid.files.wordpress.com

Hell if I know.
 
2012-11-21 02:37:55 PM

dumbobruni: Virtual Pariah: Now, I need to understand this.

If we go over the cliff, what does that entail exactly?

Return to Clinton era tax rates and Defense Sequestration?

If that's all, I may be ok with that.

clinton era tax rates return
2% payroll tax cuts eliminated
unemployment benefit extensions eliminated
AMT revises back to 2000 levels
$110 billion in annual spending cuts, split between defense and non-defense, plus 25% decline in Medicare disbursements.
Pell grants farked


I(t'll get fixed with the next Congress. I'm not too worried about it. Of course there's always a chance that the lame-duck Congress will put country before party and fix it.
 
2012-11-21 02:42:33 PM
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"...My final offer is this: nothing. Not even the fee for the gaming license, which I would appreciate if you would put up personally."
 
2012-11-21 02:42:47 PM
This is Obama's fault. He gave Boehner that bottle of wine for his birthday.
 
2012-11-21 02:42:54 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Obama is using his reelection to say that people want Obamacare. Boehner is just using the fact that Republicans kept the House as proof that they dont.


That is a weak, flailing attempt to grasp a bit of silver lining out of the disaster for the GOP that was and is 2012.

Sweet, sweet tears. They just keep coming.
 
2012-11-21 02:43:26 PM
Boehner's holding the ACA hostage...but he REALLY sucks at it.

i48.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-21 02:44:18 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: elchip: Shaka, when the walls fell.

Boehner, his cheeks stained with tears, his bottle stained with tanner.


Ryan, when his butt hurt
 
2012-11-21 02:45:03 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: By 2016 at the latest GOP incumbents will be running campaign ads bragging about delivering access to affordable health care.


At which point I hope voters will sneak up quietly behind them, put their mouths close to the candidate's ear, and then scream

IT'S CALLED OBAMACARE

just to see how high they jump. 
Not that I disagree with you. I also fully expect to see a bumper crop of republicans in 2016 to swear they had always supported health care reform.
 
2012-11-21 02:46:25 PM
He's still owned by the tea party group from the 2010 election.

Although I am sure not much will change when the new one is seated in January.
 
2012-11-21 02:47:46 PM

Notabunny: Fluorescent Testicle: elchip: Shaka, when the walls fell.

Boehner, his cheeks stained with tears, his bottle stained with tanner.

Ryan, when his butt hurt


Mitt at the gas station, his shirt wrinkled, his hair disheveled
 
2012-11-21 02:49:15 PM
At what point does the health care industry open their mouths and tell the GOP to STFU?
 
2012-11-21 02:50:31 PM

GAT_00: And this is where Obama should walk away from the table until Boehner withdraws this.


No, he's doing exactly what he should. Present deals the public find acceptable but the GOP can't swallow. When they refuse and we go over the cliff, they get the blame. If Obama walks away, the GOP has a narrative to make going ober the cliff his fault.
 
2012-11-21 02:50:42 PM

Raharu: Notabunny: Fluorescent Testicle: elchip: Shaka, when the walls fell.

Boehner, his cheeks stained with tears, his bottle stained with tanner.

Ryan, when his butt hurt

Mitt at the gas station, his shirt wrinkled, his hair disheveled


+10 to all of you! :D

/Darmok
 
2012-11-21 02:50:49 PM
Cold, crisp, refreshing tears from 1992? It must be the holidays.
 
2012-11-21 02:50:55 PM
CPennypacker:REPUBLICANS HAVE WASTED 50 MILLION DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY TRYING TO REPEAL A BILL THAT IS PAID FOR AND GIVES MANDATES AMERICANS BUY MORE EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE.
 
2012-11-21 02:52:21 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: CPennypacker:REPUBLICANS HAVE WASTED 50 MILLION DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY TRYING TO REPEAL A BILL THAT IS PAID FOR AND GIVES MANDATES AMERICANS BUY MORE EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE.


So now we've spent twice as much? Great jorb dere Hamstray?
 
2012-11-21 02:52:30 PM
 
2012-11-21 02:52:45 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: CPennypacker:REPUBLICANS HAVE WASTED 50 MILLION DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY TRYING TO REPEAL A BILL THAT IS PAID FOR AND GIVES MANDATES AMERICANS BUY MORE EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE.


so you agree they are wasting our money?
 
2012-11-21 02:55:41 PM

Nadie_AZ: He's still owned by the tea party group from the 2010 election.


Yup, the Teahadists have won the GOP civil war. Congrats, farkers. You've made your bed...now sleep in it.
 
2012-11-21 02:55:48 PM

CPennypacker: Holocaust Agnostic: CPennypacker:REPUBLICANS HAVE WASTED 50 MILLION DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY TRYING TO REPEAL A BILL THAT IS PAID FOR AND GIVES MANDATES AMERICANS BUY MORE EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE.

so you agree they are wasting our money?


Yes, the bill is not overturnable nor likely to become so soon.
 
2012-11-21 02:55:57 PM
It's not his fault. It's recently been discovered that when tears fueled by butthurt mix with tanning solution, it creates a toxic chemical that slowly rots the brain. This is why Jersey Shore was really cancelled: the CDC had to quarantine the cast and euthanize them before it got out of hand.
 
2012-11-21 02:56:04 PM
But, repealing Obamacare makes the debt and deficit problem worse...
 
2012-11-21 02:56:52 PM

serpent_sky: Sybarite: hubiestubert: Hey, if you know you're going down, at least you can go swinging...

I think Boehner may actually have a loaded God complex.


and it's about time for him to cock it and pull it?


I think he already did in an earlier round. Hopefully he can handle the inevitable fallout. Boy would I like to be a fly on the wall at that meeting.
 
2012-11-21 02:57:37 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: CPennypacker: Holocaust Agnostic: CPennypacker:REPUBLICANS HAVE WASTED 50 MILLION DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY TRYING TO REPEAL A BILL THAT IS PAID FOR AND GIVES MANDATES AMERICANS BUY MORE EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE.

so you agree they are wasting our money?

Yes, the bill is not overturnable nor likely to become so soon.


Every day it doesn't get overturned is a day people get to experience and understand more of what the bill actually does. Every day the prospects of overturn get worse. Its as overturnable now as it will ever be.
 
2012-11-21 03:00:41 PM

GAT_00: And this is where Obama should walk away from the table until Boehner withdraws this.


THIS.

"I'm not up for re-election in two years. Why don't you guys think about that and get back to me when you're serious?"
 
2012-11-21 03:01:14 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Clinton needed a strong third party to get into office.


Perot's largest impact was in red states that weren't going to Clinton anyways. The analyses I've seen shown Bush Sr would've closed the gap marginally but Clinton would have still won the election.
 
2012-11-21 03:02:45 PM

FlashHarry: the republicans kept the house purely thanks to gerrymandering. they actually got fewer votes than the dems. but they've mistaken this "victory" (and completely ignored their drubbing in the presidential and senatorial elections) as a mandate for more derpbaggery. they are sorely misinformed.


Liberals 2010: Hey, I have an idea! Let's teach Obama a lesson by sitting out a midterm election in a census year! What could possibly go wrong?
 
2012-11-21 03:03:17 PM
you failed your only goal of a one term president, try setting a new goal and actually accomplishing something or enjoy being in the history books as Speaker Boner the most useless fark in Congressional history
 
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2012-11-21 03:04:40 PM

Weaver95: do these guys understand that they LOST the election? and not by a tiny margin either - they got a major blow out on almost all fronts. people who lose that badly shouldn't be acting as if they're running the show.


They are trying to present to the public that having control of the House shows the citizens want the House in control of the budget, hoping that no one notices the gerrymandering that made it possible to not have a majority of votes (assuming however (in)correctly that individuals voted at local levels like they did for their presidential candidate) and still retain a majority of seats in the House.

If they spin it loudly and often enough, plus keep using the standard talking points their base wants to hear, the fact that they lost the White House, lost seats in the Senate, and lost seats in the House will be forgotten.

Of course, when they won seats in 2010, THAT was a mandate from the people. Now? Uh.. nothing to see here.. damn Obamacare Fiscal Cliff!
 
2012-11-21 03:05:34 PM

falcon176: you failed your only goal of a one term president, try setting a new goal and actually accomplishing something


Impeachment is a goal, right?

/impeach Fraudbongo!
 
2012-11-21 03:06:50 PM

falcon176: you failed your only goal of a one term president, try setting a new goal and actually accomplishing something or enjoy being in the history books as Speaker Boner the most useless fark in Congressional history


I don't know, he's got some tough competition, both current and past. Bachmann, West, King, Akin, Grayson, and Paul all come to mind.

Hell, Tom DeLay almost wins by default.
 
2012-11-21 03:09:13 PM

CPennypacker: Holocaust Agnostic: CPennypacker: Holocaust Agnostic: CPennypacker:REPUBLICANS HAVE WASTED 50 MILLION DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY TRYING TO REPEAL A BILL THAT IS PAID FOR AND GIVES MANDATES AMERICANS BUY MORE EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE.

so you agree they are wasting our money?

Yes, the bill is not overturnable nor likely to become so soon.

Every day it doesn't get overturned is a day people get to experience and understand more of what the bill actually does. Every day the prospects of overturn get worse. Its as overturnable now as it will ever be.


Improbable. Short term gains stemming from adding more people to the pool and limiting overhead will gradually be overshadowed by upward price pressures eventually taking healthcare back to a slow boiling crisis and forcing the .gov to take another crack at doing something sensible about the issue.

Though I suppose I would agree that it is unlikely to ever be "repealed" per-se. Simply rendered irrelevant by further legislation.
 
2012-11-21 03:10:02 PM

Snapper Carr: "I'm not up for re-election in two years EVER AGAIN. Why don't you guys think about that and get back to me when you're serious?"


I hope Ohio keeps electing Boehner. He isn't good enough to actually get shiat done. Everything he has been able to do is because of the GOP majority, not his leadership skills. Any one of us here could have the same 'success' he has as speaker so far.

Remember Ohio, a vote for Boehner is a vote for the other guys.
 
2012-11-21 03:13:03 PM

Holocaust Agnostic: CPennypacker: Holocaust Agnostic: CPennypacker: Holocaust Agnostic: CPennypacker:REPUBLICANS HAVE WASTED 50 MILLION DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY TRYING TO REPEAL A BILL THAT IS PAID FOR AND GIVES MANDATES AMERICANS BUY MORE EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE.

so you agree they are wasting our money?

Yes, the bill is not overturnable nor likely to become so soon.

Every day it doesn't get overturned is a day people get to experience and understand more of what the bill actually does. Every day the prospects of overturn get worse. Its as overturnable now as it will ever be.

Improbable. Short term gains stemming from adding more people to the pool and limiting overhead will gradually be overshadowed by upward price pressures eventually taking healthcare back to a slow boiling crisis and forcing the .gov to take another crack at doing something sensible about the issue.

Though I suppose I would agree that it is unlikely to ever be "repealed" per-se. Simply rendered irrelevant by further legislation.


I'd agree to this. I'm pretty sure single payer will replace is eventually. At this point we're hanging on the precpice of progress basically waiting for enough of the people holding us back to die.
 
2012-11-21 03:13:21 PM
I almost want the GOP to get their wish. Then when health insurance premiums don't drop (because all my republican friends firmly believe that is why premiums went up) hopefully they will see the error in their ways. Who am I kidding no they won't.
 
2012-11-21 03:13:22 PM

PreMortem: Functioning alcoholic. Only explanation.


you say "functioning alcoholic" as if that's a bad thing
 
2012-11-21 03:17:52 PM
Ever notice that Republicans never propose any solutions, they just waste time trying in vain to undo existing laws?

Unless you call "forcing the whores rape victims to have children" a new solution.
 
2012-11-21 03:18:50 PM
The Republicans remind of the valiant, all-mighty General Custer who saved us from the godless heathen Indians.
 
2012-11-21 03:20:09 PM

CorporatePerson: Ever notice that Republicans never propose any solutions, they just waste time trying in vain to undo existing laws?

Unless you call "forcing the whores rape victims to have children" a new solution.


The Final Solution (tm) was also a solution. Doesn't mean its a good one.
 
2012-11-21 03:20:40 PM
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2012-11-21 03:21:29 PM
What a disgusting excuse for a human being. The good thing is he will be hounded by his worthless legacy to his dying days.
 
2012-11-21 03:23:32 PM
ITT: We pretend to not know how politics works.

Health care reform is a big ticket item that Democrats desperately need and the Republicans want gone.
So the right stonewalls until the left trades things of equal or greater value.

/This is where a politicians skill in cutting deals comes in.
/and also why the budget is out of control.
/Every senator on the opposing team has a wish list and its farking Christmas.
 
2012-11-21 03:24:52 PM
Way to prove you're not serious about trying to reach a deal.
 
2012-11-21 03:25:09 PM

way south: /Every senator on the opposing team has a wish list and its farking Christmas.


They also have an answer, and it's always "no".
 
2012-11-21 03:25:31 PM

FlashHarry: the republicans kept the house purely thanks to gerrymandering. they actually got fewer votes than the dems. but they've mistaken this "victory" (and completely ignored their drubbing in the presidential and senatorial elections) as a mandate for more derpbaggery. they are sorely misinformed.


I'm not debating this point, but can I get a (credible) citation for this? I've looked multiple times over and can't find one for the life of me, and it would be nice to back up my arguments in further discussions.
 
2012-11-21 03:27:12 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Somacandra: Clinton did

Clinton needed a strong third party to get into office.


Not even close to true. But you already knew that.
 
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