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(Talking Points Memo)   Intent on losing his job as Speaker, Boehner goes to the well one last time: Obamacare must go as part of any fiscal cliff deal   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 325
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2012-11-21 01:50:05 PM

tallguywithglasseson: I inferred the opposite. "Got into office" by beating Bush, stayed in office by beating Dole.


We just inadvertently demostrated how sectarian religious wars start.
 
2012-11-21 02:06:07 PM
Thanks to gerrymandering these no talent ass clowns still have the House and are intent on not doing anything whatsoever to improve the country. Awesome. Although I'm sure there will be plenty of fetus & vajayjay legislation
 
2012-11-21 02:06:41 PM
Then counter that the healthcare bill is as good as gone as long as the Speaker will go on record supporting a 100% ban of all firearms.

/Two can play politics
 
2012-11-21 02:08:05 PM

kronicfeld: We just inadvertently demostrated how sectarian religious wars start.


lol
 
2012-11-21 02:08:33 PM

MrBallou: [i47.tinypic.com image 425x260]


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2012-11-21 02:09:41 PM
There are those who learn by deduction.
There are those that learn from observation.
There are those that have to piss on the electric fence for themselves.
And then there is the house GOP.
 
2012-11-21 02:09:46 PM
Shaka, when the walls fell.
 
2012-11-21 02:10:04 PM
So basically the GOP's plan to fix the budget is tax cuts for the 1%? Didn't see that coming.
 
2012-11-21 02:10:51 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Obama is using his reelection to say that people want Obamacare. Boehner is just using the fact that Republicans kept the House as proof that they dont.


Except that Boehner isn't dumb enough to actually believe that. Not sure about you, though.
 
2012-11-21 02:11:25 PM
With opposition to ObamaCare at 33% and falling, this is the perfect time for the GOP to once again be on the wrong side of a clear demographic trend.
 
2012-11-21 02:11:54 PM
i48.photobucket.com

Surprised there's not fake tanning spray smeared all over them.
 
2012-11-21 02:12:09 PM
Didn't he say not a month ago that the GOP had to give up on repealing ACA?
 
2012-11-21 02:12:15 PM
Even when these guys get that portal into reality from the bubble, they still believe the bubble is the truth.

This is like those painful accidental-time-travel movies where the main character takes forever to realize he's not in his own time.
 
2012-11-21 02:13:45 PM
Dear GOP: You start with a high bid, and aim for a bit lower by making small concessions.

You don't increase your demands. Holy shiat.
 
2012-11-21 02:14:06 PM
Hey, the super rich will still be able to afford health care without Obamacare, so what's the big deal?
 
2012-11-21 02:14:55 PM
These farktards DO realize that most Americans will blame THEM, not Obama, if we go over the fiscal cliff, right?
 
2012-11-21 02:15:00 PM

elchip: Shaka, when the walls fell.


Boehner, his cheeks stained with tears, his bottle stained with tanner.
 
2012-11-21 02:15:29 PM

tallguywithglasseson: It's a Republican fantasy that's been around since, oh, about 1992 or so that a fairly unpopular Bush would have somehow defeated a rising Clinton in a one-on-one fight, if not for that meddling Perot!


They say it as if it were a completely random occurrence that a third party candidate did very well that year relative to other modern elections. Had nothing to do with the major party candidates and political environment.
 
2012-11-21 02:15:34 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Obama is using his reelection to say that people want Obamacare. Boehner is just using the fact that Republicans kept the House as proof that they dont.


THE REPUBLICANS LOST SEATS.
 
2012-11-21 02:15:35 PM
Does anyone need anymore evidence that these swine have no intention of compromising with this president in an honest manner?
 
2012-11-21 02:16:37 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The voters hit the GOP on their noses with a newspaper, but I guess that didn't work as well as they thought it did. Maybe it's time to rub their noses in their own derp piles.


Tell me when we get to the "Get the shotgun and take them back behind the barn" step.
 
2012-11-21 02:17:36 PM

LordJiro: These farktards DO realize that most Americans will blame THEM, not Obama, if we go over the fiscal cliff, right?


Probably not. Chances are their unskewed polling tells them that should the shiat hit the fan, the public will blame Obama and not them. Also, the same polling tells them that the nation opposes the ACA, so they will only shine as winners if they continue to oppose it.
 
2012-11-21 02:17:39 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Obama is using his reelection to say that people want Obamacare. Boehner is just using the fact that Republicans kept the House as proof that they dont.


And Obama's electoral landslide and the Democrats making a measurable gain in the house and keeping the Senate is proof that they do want it.
 
2012-11-21 02:19:49 PM
i745.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-21 02:20:36 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: elchip: Shaka, when the walls fell.

Boehner, his cheeks stained with tears, his bottle stained with tanner.

 

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2012-11-21 02:20:59 PM
media.screened.com

Alright, new plan. Give me twenty dollars and I'll return my toe.
 
2012-11-21 02:21:09 PM
Dissolve Congress
 
2012-11-21 02:21:27 PM
And this is where Obama says that the public option is back on the table to save money and point out the savings for medicare. This is a negotiation people, get rough!
 
2012-11-21 02:21:57 PM
You have to make the Tea Tards happy.
 
2012-11-21 02:22:34 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Obama is using his reelection to say that people want Obamacare. Boehner is just using the fact that Republicans kept the House as proof that they dont.


The Republicans only kept the house due to gerrymandering. FFS, they lost seats in the Senate, despite the fact that most of the seats in play were held by Dems. That should tell them (and you) something.
 
2012-11-21 02:22:36 PM
Now, I need to understand this.

If we go over the cliff, what does that entail exactly?

Return to Clinton era tax rates and Defense Sequestration?

If that's all, I may be ok with that.
 
2012-11-21 02:22:45 PM
"So, we lost the election by a 332 - 206 margin, despite our candidate running for the office for 6 solid years. And we lost even more seats in the Senate. What do we do now?!?"

Issue our demands for their immediate surrender! We have them just where we want them!


There is no such thing as a reasonable Republican. Not anymore, there's not.
 
2012-11-21 02:23:28 PM

GAT_00: And this is where Obama should walk away from the table until Boehner withdraws this.


Pull out his car keys and walk out of the show room.
 
2012-11-21 02:23:51 PM

Virtual Pariah: Now, I need to understand this.

If we go over the cliff, what does that entail exactly?

Return to Clinton era tax rates and Defense Sequestration?

If that's all, I may be ok with that.


And deep cuts to medicare/medicaid
 
2012-11-21 02:23:53 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: sammyk: Really? I thought it was just more of the same obstructionism.

When you are the party out of power that's all you got.


HAHA

Your tears are awesome. Cry moar Republicans.
 
2012-11-21 02:24:11 PM
Go for it, Johnny! Obama will just let sequestration happen, and then y'all will be stuck.
 
2012-11-21 02:24:40 PM
Fine, Democrats should then insist on single payer as part of any fiscal cliff negotiations.
 
2012-11-21 02:24:47 PM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 850x584] 

/Q&D
//Keynote and Preview only


That's so Q&D that I think it gave me herpes
 
2012-11-21 02:26:08 PM
They are desperate to stop Obamacare before its big provisions go into effect. After that, it will be so popular that the GOP will be farked for a generation.
 
2012-11-21 02:26:23 PM
Were stuck with it for at least a decade dude. Lay off the chicken, you'll chafe.
 
2012-11-21 02:26:25 PM
www.people-press.org

Republicans are economic terrorists.
 
2012-11-21 02:26:42 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Didn't he say not a month ago that the GOP had to give up on repealing ACA?


Yeah, but then his owners reminded him who really makes the decisions, and put him back in his place as an obedient lapdog.

fuhfuhfuh: LordJiro: These farktards DO realize that most Americans will blame THEM, not Obama, if we go over the fiscal cliff, right?

Probably not. Chances are their unskewed polling tells them that should the shiat hit the fan, the public will blame Obama and not them. Also, the same polling tells them that the nation opposes the ACA, so they will only shine as winners if they continue to oppose it.


Remember, they still talk about a "silent majority" that supports them 100%, I hear lots of derp at work and on FB about how supposedly the election was rigged because Black Panthers were at polling places intimidating voters, or UN election observers tampered with the election, or Obama flipped a magic switch somewhere that made lots of votes his, or something. They just can't accept that people have rejected their agenda. Can't.

Well, the ones who can accept it are the ones talking about secession.
 
2012-11-21 02:27:20 PM

oldweevil: Fine, Democrats should then insist on single payer as part of any fiscal cliff negotiations.


I wish, but they are corporate whores as well.
 
2012-11-21 02:27:37 PM

CynicalLA: You have to make the Tea Tards happy.


Give them Mississippi if you want them happy. They can all move there. Texas gets a reprieve because of A) Austin B) maybe turning purple in 2016/2020
 
2012-11-21 02:27:54 PM

Somacandra: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Obama is using his reelection to say that people want Obamacare. Boehner is just using the fact that Republicans kept the House as proof that they dont.

Obama got reelected with a mandate in the same way as FDR and Clinton did. Boehner lost seats in the House including some Teabagger diehards. False equivalence is false.


Not only that, Republicans lost the popular vote. Only gerrymandering let them keep the seats they managed to hold. If they decide to take the economy over the cliff, they will be held responsible. Remember, Obama has offered to sign a Senate-sponsored bill that keeps the tax cuts in place for up to the first $250,000 everyone earns. If the Republicans refuse to approve that bill, then they are responsible for more than just raising taxes on just the poor and the middle class. They are refusing to lower taxes for the wealthy, too. If I made a half-a-million dollars a year, I would prefer that taxes be lower on half my income than raised on my entire income.
 
2012-11-21 02:28:06 PM
Obama won in 2008 on the idea of reforming healthcare. Obama won in 2012 with his reforms in place. Obviously, the people have given the GOP a mandate to gut those reforms. This is what oompa loompas actually believe.
 
2012-11-21 02:28:44 PM
static3.businessinsider.com

Miss me yet?
 
2012-11-21 02:29:58 PM
 
2012-11-21 02:30:20 PM
But I am told that some 95% of Americans want Obamacare to be fully repealed, Obama to be impeached and his entire presidency declared null and void.
 
2012-11-21 02:31:03 PM
www.darrenspruyt.com
 
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