If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Politico)   Joe Scarborough apologizes to Nate Silver...kinda   (politico.com) divider line 113
    More: Followup, Nate Silver, Joe Scarborough, nate, Brian Epstein, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, presidential campaign, Morning Joe, elections in 2012  
•       •       •

3925 clicks; posted to Politics » on 21 Nov 2012 at 10:09 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



113 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-11-21 02:00:29 PM  
Laugh.

Just look at him and Laugh.
 
2012-11-21 03:51:55 PM  

General Zang: That is incorrect. This is not 2012, not 1950.

Standard modern journalistic practice is to use the title and full name upon first mention, and the last name alone for subsequent mentions. Also, "Mister" is no longer used as a title.

So, it's either President Barack Obama, or Obama. Just using President Obama might also be acceptable, but Mr. Obama is not an acceptable designation.


The BBC still ubiquitously uses "Mr." in that fashion as well. It just sounds more cultured. So really, it's kind of funny that Scarborough was using it...
 
2012-11-21 03:53:56 PM  

BKITU: The New York Times still uses the "Mr. ____ on subsequent references" style to this day. It's not an uncommon journalistic style. The AP guide isn't an infallible style pope for all journalists.


BRB, creating new account
 
2012-11-21 04:06:48 PM  
I've got more respect for Silver after I found out about his mental handicap. Kudos for him and all for living, and doing well, despite his mental disability.

And I assume the NYT gets some kick back under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
 
2012-11-21 04:14:07 PM  
I have ignored those requests because as is usually the case for ideologues on Twitter, their rage is unfocused and based in ignorance.

Oh, Joe. Just replace "Twitter" with "Cable news shows" and you, sir, have described yourself perfectly.
 
2012-11-21 04:47:10 PM  

Hunter_Worthington: I've got more respect for Silver after I found out about his mental handicap. Kudos for him and all for living, and doing well, despite his mental disability.

And I assume the NYT gets some kick back under the Americans with Disabilities Act.


I can't find anything of what you are talking about.... care to elaborate?
 
2012-11-21 05:01:34 PM  

Anti_illuminati: for good or for awesome: thornhill: for good or for awesome: I love seeing all these MSNBC liberals proven wrong and have to grovel for forgiveness.

Joe Scarborough was a Republican member of Congress.

Um, no. MSNBC is just like FOX news but for the Democrats. All they do is ape liberal talking points. How could it be possible they have a former Republican Congressman host a show that runs for 3 hours every morning?

1/10. Needs more exclamation points and 1's. Possibly a couple more spelling errors with caps.


I wasn't really trying to troll. I just really hate when people compare MSNBC to FOX.
 
2012-11-21 05:59:56 PM  

UberDave: "If you are blessed enough to be able to avoid political chatter on Twitter, you may not know that Silver became a sort of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for liberals seeking peace and serenity during the turbulent 2012 presidential campaign. Just as the Beatles had the Maharishi to guide them through the tough times after the death of their manager Brian Epstein, progressives had Silver's New York Times blog to comfort them after the first presidential debate."

No you dipshiat. If Obama had been losing most "liberals" who were going to 538 would have still been going to 538 and saying something like, "damn...he's losing." They wouldn't be like the vast swath of right-wingers who literally believed (or at least said as much) that Romney was going to win right up until 8pm or 9pm (CST) on election night. And a good portion of the "liberals" I knew were worried that Obama was going to lose because they were paying attention to the media "horse-race" blather or right-wing nutballery.


That's the talking that pissed me off the most this season, the fact that Silver was somehow "comforting" liberals and blowing sweet reassurances in their ears. He's just reporting the REALITY, which happened to be liberally biased as is often the case these days. If the Republican candidate had a better chance of winning, and was leading in all of his models, people could make the equally dumb argument that he's just comforting conservatives.

The fact is that the media tried to keep the election a horse race, while unskewedpolls tried to paint it as a Romney landslide. Lost in all this is that NOBODY tried to twist the polls in a such way to make it appear like a 400-vote landslide in *Obama's* favor, yet everyone on the right was acting like all the polls and all the media had this huge liberal bias.
 
2012-11-21 06:05:53 PM  
FTFA: "But I do need to tell Nate I'm sorry for leaning in too hard and lumping him with pollsters whose methodology is as rigorous as the Simpsons' strip mall physician, Dr. Nick. For those sins (and a multitude of others that I'm sure I don't even know about), I am sorry."

Meh, not the best apology, but I'll take it.
 
2012-11-21 07:37:45 PM  

General Zang: cousin-merle: not5am: that pointed to mr. obama's doom

what happened to respecting the office if not the man?

Generally, you only refer to him as President Obama in first reference of article, which Joe did, then Mr. Obama for the rest. This is standard practice, not disrespect.

That is incorrect. This is not 2012, not 1950.

Standard modern journalistic practice is to use the title and full name upon first mention, and the last name alone for subsequent mentions. Also, "Mister" is no longer used as a title.

So, it's either President Barack Obama, or Obama. Just using President Obama might also be acceptable, but Mr. Obama is not an acceptable designation. 

Source: 2012 AP Style Guide


IIRC, from listening to NPR (who does it also) one afternoon, the Title then Mr./Mrs. thing is BBC style
 
2012-11-21 10:19:47 PM  

dletter: Hunter_Worthington: I've got more respect for Silver after I found out about his mental handicap. Kudos for him and all for living, and doing well, despite his mental disability.

And I assume the NYT gets some kick back under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

I can't find anything of what you are talking about.... care to elaborate?


really? Silver is pretty open about his mental handicap.
 
2012-11-21 10:47:22 PM  
I want to hire a wino to follow Scarborough around and vomit into his mouth every time he tries to speak.
 
2012-11-22 06:25:29 AM  

dletter: Hunter_Worthington: I've got more respect for Silver after I found out about his mental handicap. Kudos for him and all for living, and doing well, despite his mental disability.

And I assume the NYT gets some kick back under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

I can't find anything of what you are talking about.... care to elaborate?


Allow me... Hunter_Worthington is one of those pathetic individuals who like to post outrageous things anonymously on the internet so other people will respond to him.

Frankly, I don't see the appeal, but there you go...
 
Displayed 13 of 113 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
On Twitter





In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report