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2012-11-21 08:11:39 AM  
That's an apology? If I were to "apologize" to my wife like that I'd be sleeping on the couch for a week
 
2012-11-21 08:20:24 AM  
Now apologize for murdering Lori Klausutis
 
2012-11-21 08:33:06 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Now apologize for murdering Lori Klausutis


If I were Gary Condit, I'd smash my TV in rage every time I see Scarborough on it.
 
2012-11-21 08:41:53 AM  
If you are blessed enough to be able to avoid political chatter on Twitter, you may not know that Silver became a sort of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for liberals seeking peace and serenity during the turbulent 2012 presidential campaign. Just as the Beatles had the Maharishi to guide them through the tough times after the death of their manager Brian Epstein, progressives had Silver's New York Times blog to comfort them after the first presidential debate. My liberal friends spent countless hours manically refreshing the "538" blog every three minutes or so throughout most of October seeking reassurance that President Obama would win. Water usage on the Upper West Side took a dip during that time when progressives realized that bathing regularly would keep them away from the site.

Got that far. What an unmistakable asswipe. Next time someone tells you MSNBC is JUST LIKE FOX AHUR, ask them "Which FOX liberal is an insufferable asshole who gets 3 hours of airtime a day?"

Now start growing your goddamn mustache, Uncle Scar.
 
2012-11-21 08:46:44 AM  
I had been through enough political campaigns to know that predicting the outcome of any election with numerical certainty was tricky business - especially in a presidential campaign that had been in flux since that first debate.


Certainty, probability, whatever.

Maths are hard, durr.
 
2012-11-21 09:21:13 AM  
Yes, the liberals were feverishly clinging on to a deranged prediction that just happened to come true
 
2012-11-21 09:30:43 AM  
During a Morning Joe discussion, I mocked both liberals and conservatives for cherry-picking polls to prove their candidate was all but assured victory.

This is pretty much the point. The problem being, is that Silver doesn't pad out the polls to give "his" candidate a boost. Therein lies the rub. His methodology doesn't favor one side or another, and rather, looks at the larger picture. In the case of this Presidential race, we had a media who REALLY wanted a close race, so that they could sell more ad time, as opposed to actually reporting the news, and actively tried to skew things to make it appear much closer. It was NEVER a close race. Much like it was NEVER a close race for the Primaries either. This has been a Silly Season full of narrative attempting to flummox math. Plain and simple.

Nate uses math. I realize that when you work FOX or Politico, that math is sometimes a difficult thing to admit has validity, especially when folks attempt to try to bolster their claims with faux math, and then point to more bogus math used by "the other side" whilst attempting to wipe the bullsh*t off your own, but at some point, we need to return to a media environment that at least attempts to report the news, as opposed to trying to actively make the news.
 
2012-11-21 09:36:14 AM  
"If you are blessed enough to be able to avoid political chatter on Twitter, you may not know that Silver became a sort of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for liberals seeking peace and serenity during the turbulent 2012 presidential campaign. Just as the Beatles had the Maharishi to guide them through the tough times after the death of their manager Brian Epstein, progressives had Silver's New York Times blog to comfort them after the first presidential debate."

No you dipshiat. If Obama had been losing most "liberals" who were going to 538 would have still been going to 538 and saying something like, "damn...he's losing." They wouldn't be like the vast swath of right-wingers who literally believed (or at least said as much) that Romney was going to win right up until 8pm or 9pm (CST) on election night. And a good portion of the "liberals" I knew were worried that Obama was going to lose because they were paying attention to the media "horse-race" blather or right-wing nutballery.
 
2012-11-21 09:39:29 AM  
If this apology isn't in the form of a suicide note I'm not really interested.
 
2012-11-21 09:40:39 AM  
Nate Silver had shown many months ago that the slice of independents was the smallest in decades and that even if Romney won them all, it probably wouldn't be enough for him to win the election. Given that most of those independents were Fark Independents, Romney had to chance to win.
 
2012-11-21 09:52:33 AM  
Every time someone like Nate Silver wins an argument over the shallow mean asswits of the world (oh hi, Joe!) an angel gets its wings.

Now about that dead staffer in your office. Strange there was never any DNA sample taken. Florida Justice for the white congressman.
 
2012-11-21 10:04:15 AM  
Scarborough is a puts.

He could have graciously said,

"you know, i like most americans just don't understand advanced math -- we can, it shouldn't be so advanced"

or

" hey, i called you an ideologue -- that was out of line and incorrect: sorry"

but neither of those appeared to have happened.
 
2012-11-21 10:14:24 AM  

PreMortem: I had been through enough political campaigns to know that predicting the outcome of any election with numerical certainty was tricky business - especially in a presidential campaign that had been in flux since that first debate.


Certainty, probability, whatever.

Maths are hard, durr.


Came to point this out. Silver doesn't predict anything, he calculated the probability. If Romney had won Silver would still have been correct.
 
2012-11-21 10:15:32 AM  
FTFA: I won't apologize to Mr. Silver for predicting an outcome that I had also been predicting for a year.

I won't apologize because I was right the whole time. Classy.
 
2012-11-21 10:17:25 AM  

keithgabryelski: Scarborough is a puts.

He could have graciously said,

"you know, i like most americans just don't understand advanced math -- we can, it shouldn't be so advanced"

or

" hey, i called you an ideologue -- that was out of line and incorrect: sorry"

but neither of those appeared to have happened.


Well, to be fair, he did kind of do the latter:

FTFA: I won't apologize to Mr. Silver for predicting an outcome that I had also been predicting for a year. But I do need to tell Nate I'm sorry for leaning in too hard and lumping him with pollsters whose methodology is as rigorous as the Simpsons' strip mall physician, Dr. Nick. For those sins (and a multitude of others that I'm sure I don't even know about), I am sorry.
 
2012-11-21 10:17:44 AM  
If you are blessed enough to be able to avoid political chatter on Twitter, you may not know that Silver became a sort of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for liberals seeking peace and serenity during the turbulent 2012 presidential campaign.

He's a statistician. How farking hard is it to understand that liberals have been listening to him because his numbers were right in the past and his methodology is solid?
 
2012-11-21 10:17:52 AM  
I love seeing all these MSNBC liberals proven wrong and have to grovel for forgiveness.
 
2012-11-21 10:18:36 AM  

HeartBurnKid: keithgabryelski: Scarborough is a puts.

He could have graciously said,

"you know, i like most americans just don't understand advanced math -- we can, it shouldn't be so advanced"

or

" hey, i called you an ideologue -- that was out of line and incorrect: sorry"

but neither of those appeared to have happened.

Well, to be fair, he did kind of do the latter:

FTFA: I won't apologize to Mr. Silver for predicting an outcome that I had also been predicting for a year. But I do need to tell Nate I'm sorry for leaning in too hard and lumping him with pollsters whose methodology is as rigorous as the Simpsons' strip mall physician, Dr. Nick. For those sins (and a multitude of others that I'm sure I don't even know about), I am sorry.


That's an apology issued through the loud gritting of teeth and shrugging of shoulders.
 
2012-11-21 10:20:24 AM  
My liberal friends spent countless hours manically refreshing the "538" blog every three minutes or so throughout most of October seeking reassurance that President Obama would win. Water usage on the Upper West Side took a dip during that time when progressives realized that bathing regularly would keep them away from the site.


Now there's the douchebag we all know and loathe
 
2012-11-21 10:20:57 AM  

for good or for awesome: I love seeing all these MSNBC liberals proven wrong and have to grovel for forgiveness.


Joe Scarborough was a Republican member of Congress.
 
2012-11-21 10:21:10 AM  

Bloody William: HeartBurnKid: keithgabryelski: Scarborough is a puts.

He could have graciously said,

"you know, i like most americans just don't understand advanced math -- we can, it shouldn't be so advanced"

or

" hey, i called you an ideologue -- that was out of line and incorrect: sorry"

but neither of those appeared to have happened.

Well, to be fair, he did kind of do the latter:

FTFA: I won't apologize to Mr. Silver for predicting an outcome that I had also been predicting for a year. But I do need to tell Nate I'm sorry for leaning in too hard and lumping him with pollsters whose methodology is as rigorous as the Simpsons' strip mall physician, Dr. Nick. For those sins (and a multitude of others that I'm sure I don't even know about), I am sorry.

That's an apology issued through the loud gritting of teeth and shrugging of shoulders.


I agree. It's the kind of apology you give after 5 minutes of your parents standing over your shoulder saying, "Like you mean it!" But at least it's not a non-apology, so this is a step up for a Republican.
 
2012-11-21 10:21:59 AM  

thornhill: for good or for awesome: I love seeing all these MSNBC liberals proven wrong and have to grovel for forgiveness.

Joe Scarborough was a Republican member of Congress.


That's the joke dot JPEG
 
2012-11-21 10:23:40 AM  
Well, Joe proves once again that he doesn't understand how math works. Why am I not surprised?
 
2012-11-21 10:23:53 AM  
This asswipe still doesn't get it. Mathematics doesn't take sides, you pinheaded motherfarker.
 
2012-11-21 10:25:10 AM  
If you are blessed enough to be able to avoid political chatter on Twitter, you may not know that Silver became a sort of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for liberals seeking peace and serenity

WTF is Joe smoking these days?
 
2012-11-21 10:25:43 AM  
My 4-year-old knows that wasn't an apology in any way, shape or form.
 
2012-11-21 10:27:01 AM  
My goodness, Scarborough is such a smarmy douche bag.

It makes the show unwatchable for me. He's condescending, dismissive, and arrogant with absolutely no valid reason to be... As he is usually wrong. About everything.


I like watching Mika make "My god, you're an idiot" faces at him, though.
 
2012-11-21 10:29:03 AM  
It's funny that he denigrates state polls, but Wang's extensive (that's right, extensive Wang) research has shown that using state polls and converting those results to EC totals has historically been extremely accurate. Add to the fact, in the modern world, polling company methodologies are becoming more robust.

It's going to get easier to assign a probability to a presidential election, not harder... as long as knowledgeable statisticians are doing the analysis.
 
2012-11-21 10:29:16 AM  
Hey look. Joe Scarborough still doesn't understand how percentages work.
 
2012-11-21 10:30:04 AM  
Did he offer him an internship?

DON'T DO IT, NATE!!!
 
2012-11-21 10:30:21 AM  

keylock71: It makes the show unwatchable for me. He's condescending, dismissive, and arrogant with absolutely no valid reason to be... As he is usually wrong. About everything.


Oh, I guess I forgot to introduce you to the modern GOP. GOP, this is keylock71. Key, this is the modern GOP. You guys have fun, i'm sure you have a lot to talk about.
 
2012-11-21 10:31:01 AM  

keylock71: I like watching Mika make "My god, you're an idiot" faces at him, though.


Imagine if Willie Geist were allowed to set his countenance of disappointment on Joe. I'm pretty sure it says in his contract that he's not allowed to, though.

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2012-11-21 10:32:36 AM  

keylock71: My goodness, Scarborough is such a smarmy douche bag.

It makes the show unwatchable for me. He's condescending, dismissive, and arrogant with absolutely no valid reason to be... As he is usually wrong. About everything.


I like watching Mika make "My god, you're an idiot" faces at him, though.


He's their token red state white male. Its like having to be nice to your 2nd cousin from the small town who you wish wasn't such a dumbass all of the time.
 
2012-11-21 10:34:51 AM  
the Simpsons' strip mall physician, Dr. Nick.

Sounds like Joe didn't go to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.
 
2012-11-21 10:37:03 AM  
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2012-11-21 10:38:26 AM  
He obviously doesn't understand what Silver is up to. Pundits like him don'T have any chance in the modern world.
 
2012-11-21 10:38:52 AM  

thornhill: for good or for awesome: I love seeing all these MSNBC liberals proven wrong and have to grovel for forgiveness.

Joe Scarborough was a Republican member of Congress.


Um, no. MSNBC is just like FOX news but for the Democrats. All they do is ape liberal talking points. How could it be possible they have a former Republican Congressman host a show that runs for 3 hours every morning?
 
2012-11-21 10:41:23 AM  
These critics conveniently forget that I consistently predicted an Obama win throughout the year and even said on Election Day that the president's stubborn lead in swing state polls would doom Romney.

But this started because you insisted it was an unpredictable horse race.
 
2012-11-21 10:41:35 AM  
I won't apologize to Mr. Silver for predicting an outcome that I had also been predicting for a year.

Ehem.

"Morning Joe" wraps up six-hour show with @joenbc: "We learned absolutely nothing. We have no idea who's going to win."

- Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) November 6, 2012
 
2012-11-21 10:48:05 AM  
My liberal friends spent countless hours manically refreshing the "538" blog every three minutes or so throughout most of October seeking reassurance that President Obama would win.



well that's a f*cking lie.
 
2012-11-21 10:50:06 AM  
farking douchenugget should be sodomized with a rusty turkey roasting pan
 
2012-11-21 10:51:10 AM  

for good or for awesome: thornhill: for good or for awesome: I love seeing all these MSNBC liberals proven wrong and have to grovel for forgiveness.

Joe Scarborough was a Republican member of Congress.

Um, no. MSNBC is just like FOX news but for the Democrats. All they do is ape liberal talking points. How could it be possible they have a former Republican Congressman host a show that runs for 3 hours every morning?


And they certainly don't have an early afternoon show co-hosted by S.E. Cupp.
 
2012-11-21 10:53:12 AM  
Joe is propagating the now familiar meme that has popped up in the con-o-sphere that "the left" only credits Silver because he somehow conjures figures favorable to democratic candidates. It's a perfect projection of their own love for the Dean Chambers of the world who really do conjure figures to produce numbers appealing to conservatives.
 
2012-11-21 10:54:04 AM  

Mentat: And they certainly don't have an early afternoon show co-hosted by S.E. Cupp.


Hold up. They gave Touré's punching bag a name?
 
2012-11-21 10:57:47 AM  
I saw a better apology from a freeper.
 
2012-11-21 10:59:45 AM  

Paul Baumer: Joe is propagating the now familiar meme that has popped up in the con-o-sphere that "the left" only credits Silver because he somehow conjures figures favorable to democratic candidates. It's a perfect projection of their own love for the Dean Chambers of the world who really do conjure figures to produce numbers appealing to conservatives.


Because no liberals were giving themselves ulcers over the summer over Nate Silver's projections about the Senate.
 
2012-11-21 11:00:41 AM  

Bloody William: Paul Baumer: Joe is propagating the now familiar meme that has popped up in the con-o-sphere that "the left" only credits Silver because he somehow conjures figures favorable to democratic candidates. It's a perfect projection of their own love for the Dean Chambers of the world who really do conjure figures to produce numbers appealing to conservatives.

Because no liberals were giving themselves ulcers over the summer over Nate Silver's projections about the Senate.


Or the steep drop after the first debate.
 
2012-11-21 11:02:39 AM  

Bloody William: Paul Baumer: Joe is propagating the now familiar meme that has popped up in the con-o-sphere that "the left" only credits Silver because he somehow conjures figures favorable to democratic candidates. It's a perfect projection of their own love for the Dean Chambers of the world who really do conjure figures to produce numbers appealing to conservatives.

Because no liberals were giving themselves ulcers over the summer over Nate Silver's projections about the Senate.


That's the point - 538 gives the numbers regardless of whom they favor, which is why it's popular with folks in the objective community. It doesn't exist to prop up a predetermined idea of who's going to win, as opposed to UnSkewed FatGuy, which is why the reality based community hates Silver.
 
2012-11-21 11:03:55 AM  

for good or for awesome: thornhill: for good or for awesome: I love seeing all these MSNBC liberals proven wrong and have to grovel for forgiveness.

Joe Scarborough was a Republican member of Congress.

Um, no. MSNBC is just like FOX news but for the Democrats. All they do is ape liberal talking points. How could it be possible they have a former Republican Congressman host a show that runs for 3 hours every morning?


1/10. Needs more exclamation points and 1's. Possibly a couple more spelling errors with caps.
 
2012-11-21 11:04:04 AM  
that pointed to mr. obama's doom

what happened to respecting the office if not the man?
 
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