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2012-11-21 09:48:47 AM  
Keep thinning the herd. Just don't take the rest of us with you.
 
2012-11-21 10:24:35 AM  
FTA: In other words, drivers admit that they have a problem, but they lack the self-control to address it.

The author of this article clearly hasn't seen people bragging about their ability to "multitask"...

...despite numerous studies suggesting that the existence of this concept as far as the inner workings of our brains is concerned is largely mythical.

I'd say the "in other words" statement here needs to be:

"Drivers admit that distracted driving is a problem, but not when they're doing it- because, well, they're more awesome than all those other schlubs and can totally handle it."
 
2012-11-21 10:26:12 AM  
YOLO
 
2012-11-21 10:29:08 AM  
It's interesting. However how many of these people are doing these things manually vs the number who have their phone sat doing 'something' and background tasks are running?

For example, my partner will use her phone as a satnav, it pulls traffic updates down via the data connection (i.e. 'accesses the web'), often on long trips the podcast player will automatically download new items and we may of bolted it to the cars audio system to stream some music. It's perfectly possible that is she gave a damn about Facebook that it's app would also be using the GPS system and randomly update her status with where she is/what she's doing.

But at no point has the phone been manually told to do any of this by her whilst she is driving. So whilst it's fascinating the questions as posed in the article could be quite misleading when dealing with modern smartphones.
 
2012-11-21 10:32:00 AM  

SkunkWerks: FTA: In other words, drivers admit that they have a problem, but they lack the self-control to address it.

The author of this article clearly hasn't seen people bragging about their ability to "multitask"...

...despite numerous studies suggesting that the existence of this concept as far as the inner workings of our brains is concerned is largely mythical.

I'd say the "in other words" statement here needs to be:

"Drivers admit that distracted driving is a problem, but not when they're doing it- because, well, they're more awesome than all those other schlubs and can totally handle it."


I would disagree that I'm necessarily better at multitasking when driving than anyone else, it's just that surfing the net is the only thing keeping me awake when I'm driving that drunk.
 
2012-11-21 10:50:03 AM  
I once watched a guy in the lane next to me spend a good 2 or 3 miles in heavy traffic with his face buried in his phone with only the occasional glance up. We got to an area with a lot of heavy truck traffic and he wasn't paying attention to the enormous farking double trailer truck that pulled into the road at half the speed of the rest of the traffic and wound up driving off the lane into the onramp and then off the onramp onto the berm where he got hung up on the lip of a shallow drainage ditch.

He brought traffic in the right two lanes to a sudden stop in the vicinity so I can only imagine the enormous wave he created for miles behind us. I was hoping he'd smash into a bridge abutment and die, but I guess having to pay a tow truck a hundred bucks to get him out hours later was good comeuppance to.
 
2012-11-21 10:55:04 AM  
I ride a motorcycle, and idiots like this nearly kill me from time to time.

One gal was merging into rush-hour traffic while texting with both hands on the phone (steering with her wrists). At 60 miles per hour. Into my lane.  I managed to dodge into the lane-split and get ahead of her, but she never looked up...
 
2012-11-21 11:40:04 AM  
texting or emailing while driving should result in an instant 90 day license suspension if caught. If you have extenuating circumstances let a judge decide if it was worth risking everyone around you.
 
2012-11-21 11:43:58 AM  

Carth: texting or emailing while driving should result in an instant 90 day license suspension if caught. If you have extenuating circumstances let a judge decide if it was worth risking everyone around you.


No way, I can totally handle it. What do you think I am, a moran?
 
2012-11-21 11:50:19 AM  
It's three miles and nine traffic lights to my gym. AND EVERY ONE OF THEM IS RED. So forgive me if I check my email at one of the red lights.

/Stop telling me "Why don't you just run three miles?"
//You can't lift three miles.
 
2012-11-21 12:38:56 PM  
The article doesnt say if this counts things like using internet radio or navigation. If I were asked if I used the web while driving then I would say yes based on those two criteria. And while any distraction is unsafe I wouldnt call either more dangerous than using their non-cellphone versions
 
2012-11-21 01:01:34 PM  

cirby: I ride a motorcycle, and idiots like this nearly kill me from time to time.


I'm sure the fact that you choose to drive an unusually small and hard to see vehicle has nothing to do with it.
 
2012-11-21 01:09:14 PM  

wildcardjack: It's three miles and nine traffic lights to my gym. AND EVERY ONE OF THEM IS RED. So forgive me if I check my email at one of the red lights.

/Stop telling me "Why don't you just run three miles?"
//You can't lift three miles.


Do you have to be there in 26 minutes?
 
2012-11-21 01:25:26 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: cirby: I ride a motorcycle, and idiots like this nearly kill me from time to time.

I'm sure the fact that you choose to drive an unusually small and hard to see vehicle has nothing to do with it.


When I'm six to eight feet away in the adjacent lane, I'm not that hard to see. If you can't see a motorcycle at that range, you shouldn't be allowed to drive.

Note my example. I was almost close enough to TOUCH her car. At that distance, the only sight issue is blocking her view of any large trucks on my other side...
 
kab
2012-11-21 01:26:14 PM  
As long as they don't hit anyone else, zero farks given.
 
2012-11-21 01:28:16 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: cirby: I ride a motorcycle, and idiots like this nearly kill me from time to time.

I'm sure the fact that you choose to drive an unusually small and hard to see vehicle has nothing to do with it.


I'm sure that the fact that there exist small and hard-to-see vehicles on the road with you at any given time isn't a great reason to refrain from adding unneeded distractions to your driving habits.
 
2012-11-21 01:36:46 PM  

cirby: Note my example. I was almost close enough to TOUCH her car. At that distance, the only sight issue is blocking her view of any large trucks on my other side...


I'm not saying you deserve to get run over or that it would be your fault if you did, I'm just saying that you have to accept the fact that if you choose to ride a motorcycle in rush hour traffic you're also choosing to make it that much easier for these dipshiats to run you over.

/ I just really hate those stupid "watch for motorcycles" placards....
// no, YOU chose to ride a rocking horse with wheels on the road, YOU pay extra attention
 
Zel
2012-11-21 01:45:59 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: / I just really hate those stupid "watch for motorcycles" placards....
// no, YOU chose to ride a rocking horse with wheels on the road, YOU pay extra attention


disagree..
all drivers should watch the road space for all obstacles.

I drive a small car, and have had large SUV's not see me. There's a hummer imprint on the hood cause my ceiling was below her rear view mirror. Her bumper was about a foot above mine and took out the frame over my headlight.

/still safer than a motorcycle, the hummer would have taken out my ribcage
 
2012-11-21 01:50:52 PM  

Bukharin: YOLO


You Obviously Like Owls?

Anyway....

Here in my commute, it's never quite stop and go, but every friggin morning I see at least 3 (my record was 8) asshats driving with a tablet propped on the steering wheel and they read (actually they're probably watching a movie or a show, stupid people don't read much) while moving forward. These idiots end up weaving in and out of their lanes, holding up traffic because they stay at 20-30 kph while every one else speeds up to normal speeds and whatever.

Put away your f'n toys and DRIVE asshats!
 
2012-11-21 02:01:31 PM  
Vegan Meat Popsicle:
I'm just saying that you have to accept the fact that if you choose to ride a motorcycle in rush hour traffic you're also choosing to make it that much easier for these dipshiats to run you over.

Whenever someone uses the "motorcycles are hard to see" argument, the actual truth is almost always "I didn't look." When you're both on the highway, traveling at about the same speed, at single-lane-width distances, the response is "you shouldn't be driving if you can't see me from ten feet away." If I'm close enough to be able to see what kind of phone you're texting on, "hard to see your motorcycle" is a flat out lie.
 
2012-11-21 02:13:38 PM  
Hey, it's not my fault driving is more boring than YouTube.
 
2012-11-21 02:25:36 PM  
Wow, and yet our highways are still not a Mad Max-esque landscape littered with corpses as far as the eye can see?

21% of how many million drivers?

NOT.
THAT.
DANGEROUS.
 
2012-11-21 02:32:21 PM  
They need to start a group called "MATADORES" (Mothers Against Texting Asshole Drivers and Other Retarded Egocentric shiats).
Because I've read that texting drivers are twice as likely to cause an accident than a drunk driver and obviously there are a lot more texting assholes than there are drunk drivers at any given time.

Plus, they should start handing down the extravagant sentences to these guys, just like they do with first time DUI's. Even more harsh, actually, since they are even more likely to cause an accident.

That is all.
 
2012-11-21 02:34:18 PM  
My phone is in my purse under the driver's seat. I've made it abundantly clear to my more wired friends that I refuse to answer it when I am driving. A couple offered me headsets, but I am not going to sit at the steering wheel yelling, "WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU! CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN?"

I'm too busy yelling at the other drivers, anyway. "GET OFF THE PHONE! PAY ATTENTION! WTF DUDE!"
 
2012-11-21 02:43:39 PM  

wildcardjack: It's three miles and nine traffic lights to my gym. AND EVERY ONE OF THEM IS RED. So forgive me if I check my email at one of the red lights.

/Stop telling me "Why don't you just run three miles?"
//You can't lift three miles.


So you're one of the dipshiats who sits there when it turns green?

/bring hand weights and run the three miles while lifting, duh
 
2012-11-21 02:56:06 PM  
IVe told my work about a 100 times I wil not answer my phone on the road. They tell me to pull over, most of my trip is on highways, fark you work its not that important!! LAst month a lady buried in her phone almost hit me a 4 other people, including an 18 wheeler while she was drifting over several times. I think the truck horn finally scared the shiat out of her to make her.

/got hit by a distracted driver in september.
 
2012-11-21 03:06:35 PM  

Carth: texting or emailing while driving should result in an instant 90 day license suspension if caught. If you have extenuating circumstances let a judge decide if it was worth risking everyone around you.


I disagree. Capital punishment is preferable.
 
2012-11-21 03:22:16 PM  

elchupacabra: NOT.
THAT.
DANGEROUS.


The top mortality rate in this country is still held by car accidents. There's 21% less reasons to have them.
 
2012-11-21 03:27:26 PM  

Thelyphthoric: /bring hand weights and run the three miles while lifting, duh


Save time, take the bike.
 
2012-11-21 03:28:22 PM  
Sorry, but I need to play my SongPop.
 
2012-11-21 03:32:24 PM  

you have pee hands: Thelyphthoric: /bring hand weights and run the three miles while lifting, duh

Save time, take the bike.


Holy frijoles! That's perfect.

You'll note though, even THAT guy isn't dumb enough to text while doin' that.
 
2012-11-21 03:45:48 PM  

Contents Under Pressure: My phone is in my purse under the driver's seat. I've made it abundantly clear to my more wired friends that I refuse to answer it when I am driving. A couple offered me headsets, but I am not going to sit at the steering wheel yelling, "WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU! CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN?"

I'm too busy yelling at the other drivers, anyway. "GET OFF THE PHONE! PAY ATTENTION! WTF DUDE!"


Apparently there's some evidence that a headset isn't all that safe anyway. Having a conversation with someone who isn't there is less safe than a conversation with someone next to you, which is pretty fascinating in my opinion.

Someone I know suggested that, with a phone conversation, part of your brain is occupied "imagining" the other person, which distracts you from driving.

Brains are weird.
 
2012-11-21 03:57:33 PM  

Generation_D: Keep thinning the herd. Just don't take the rest of us with you.


I really suck at multitasking. When I drive, I have to focus on the act of driving. No talking on my cell phone, texting, or web surfing for me while the car is in motion...


/ wish so many other people didn't fool themselves about their true ability to drive an automobile.
 
2012-11-21 03:57:49 PM  

SkunkWerks: elchupacabra: NOT.
THAT.
DANGEROUS.

The top mortality rate in this country is still held by car accidents. There's 21% less reasons to have them.


And yet vehicle mortality rates are declining, when cell phone use is increasing -- just a quick GIS shows that. And we still try to justify increasing penalties for something that's NOT THAT DANGEROUS. Congratulations on fattening our police budget.
 
2012-11-21 04:03:37 PM  

elchupacabra: SkunkWerks: elchupacabra: NOT.
THAT.
DANGEROUS.
The top mortality rate in this country is still held by car accidents. There's 21% less reasons to have them.
And yet vehicle mortality rates are declining, when cell phone use is increasing -- just a quick GIS shows that. And we still try to justify increasing penalties for something that's NOT THAT DANGEROUS. Congratulations on fattening our police budget.


I don't give a fark if it's that dangerous or not. Hang up and drive. None of you are so important that you can't unplug for the length of time it takes to drive to most places.
 
kab
2012-11-21 04:07:26 PM  

elchupacabra: And yet vehicle mortality rates are declining, when cell phone use is increasing -- just a quick GIS shows that. And we still try to justify increasing penalties for something that's NOT THAT DANGEROUS. Congratulations on fattening our police budget.


May want to rethink that position.

Or ignore it, and continue being a shiatty driver.
 
2012-11-21 04:30:00 PM  

kab: elchupacabra: And yet vehicle mortality rates are declining, when cell phone use is increasing -- just a quick GIS shows that. And we still try to justify increasing penalties for something that's NOT THAT DANGEROUS. Congratulations on fattening our police budget.

May want to rethink that position.

Or ignore it, and continue being a shiatty driver. person

 
2012-11-21 04:37:23 PM  
elchupacabra:
And yet vehicle mortality rates are declining, when cell phone use is increasing

As kab points out above, that's not true.

Think how awful it would be if most people did the whole "talking on the phone/texting" thing, instead of the small minority who do. 

Accident/death rates were declining, due to better crash technology - up until people started driving like they had their heads in buckets.
 
2012-11-21 04:38:27 PM  

kab: elchupacabra: And yet vehicle mortality rates are declining, when cell phone use is increasing -- just a quick GIS shows that. And we still try to justify increasing penalties for something that's NOT THAT DANGEROUS. Congratulations on fattening our police budget.

May want to rethink that position.

Or ignore it, and continue being a shiatty driver.


Ah, a single quarter has a surge? Ah, so that's proof that the highways are becoming deathtraps.

Nothing to do with the fact that we give drivers licenses for life.
Nothing to do with the fact that we still have 1950s attitudes towards driving education
Nothing to do with the fact that there are people utterly unqualified to drive out there

Let's get cracking on those EVIL cell phone users!

/makes me want to drink
 
2012-11-21 05:19:12 PM  

elchupacabra: And yet vehicle mortality rates are declining, when cell phone use is increasing


Does your "not that dangerous" opinion have a control group to account for the fact that cars are also becoming much safer?
 
2012-11-21 06:08:00 PM  
So I'm endangering everyone around me by changing the the internet radio station or downloading a podcast or reading a web comic while I'm stopped at a red light huh?
 
2012-11-21 06:21:13 PM  
Saw someone reading a newspaper in heavy stop and go traffic once. Not even folded up, completely spread out over the steering wheel. She had kids in the car as well.

/reported them to the state police. Hope someone picked that biatch up.
 
2012-11-21 06:38:06 PM  

Carth: texting or emailing while driving should result in an instant 90 day license suspension if caught. If you have extenuating circumstances let a judge decide if it was worth risking everyone around you.


newsletter, more of the same, etcetera.

neuroflare: So I'm endangering everyone around me by changing the the internet radio station or downloading a podcast or reading a web comic while I'm stopped at a red light huh?


while stopped at a red light? obviously you're retarded, so yes, you are an endangerment.
 
2012-11-21 07:49:15 PM  
neuroflare:
So I'm endangering everyone around me by changing the the internet radio station or downloading a podcast or reading a web comic while I'm stopped at a red light huh?

It's the twenty seconds before and after the red light, when you're either thinking about all of the things you're going to do while stopped, or still fiddling with the gadgets while you're accelerating with the other cars. There's also the "mode shift" issue, when you're trying to change between two unrelated - and mutually exclusive - tasks.

It's funny how often "I only do this when I'm stopped" is "I use these gadgets all of the time, and have the excuse ready for after the accident." One guy I work with always - ALWAYS - claims he doesn't use his phone while driving. Oddly enough, he tends to send texts to me or calls me ten minutes before arriving at work. He lives a half hour away - do the math.
 
2012-11-21 09:47:21 PM  
This thread made me want to post. I'm on the beltway doing 90. Right now. H8rs h8.
 
2012-11-22 12:42:13 AM  
I find it funny that even with the problem of drivers being distracted, new cars have been coming out with more and more interactive features directly in the driver's line of sight. Cell phones bad, interactive features somehow good.
 
2012-11-22 01:02:18 AM  
so what about changing the radio station, finding a radio station, or switching the a/c or heater (i've seen people text in less time than i have seen others do those things)? should we take every distraction out of the cars?

i admit that is stupidly extreme, but so is the other way. if you have a phone that you can text "thanks!" on with out looking, it isn't in the same ball park as watching a long video on your ipad while driving at 60 miles on the surface streets.

i would love a multitasking part in getting a drivers license, and how high you score would allow you certain benefits while driving. won't happen because people that fail certain parts will complain because they think they were robbed...
 
2012-11-22 08:57:28 AM  
Blood is coming out.
 
2012-11-22 09:02:08 AM  
Now with 13% less than 21% more death!

Catch a ride!
 
2012-11-22 11:33:15 AM  

cannonman1863: I find it funny that even with the problem of drivers being distracted, new cars have been coming out with more and more interactive features directly in the driver's line of sight. Cell phones bad, interactive features somehow good.


lol this. and they are huge too - just big attention grabbing things in the middle of your dashboard. I can see the dashboard screens of cars in front of me better than I can read my motorcycle's speedometer.
 
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