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(Mother Nature Network)   If global warming is so real, then why did we see fewer tornadoes in America this year? "We are approaching a theoretical minimum in the annual tornado count for the modern era"   (mnn.com) divider line 110
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2012-11-21 08:52:03 AM
Are you trying to see a record tornado coont next year? Then don't say anything about the lack of tornadoes this year, you'll jinx it
 
2012-11-21 08:52:38 AM

Paris1127: Are you trying to see a record tornado coont next year? Then don't say anything about the lack of tornadoes this year, you'll jinx it


Well... that was an unfortunate typo...
 
2012-11-21 09:04:42 AM
Maybe after 2011 the weather decided to cut us a break here in the Midwest.
 
2012-11-21 09:07:33 AM
Tornadoes only form under certain conditions. They don't automatically form just because storms get stronger. You can have a hellacious thunderstorm with a 75000 foot cloud top, hurricane force winds and softball-size hail that doesn't form tornadoes. That's doesn't mean it won't completely kick the ass of anything underneath it.
 
2012-11-21 09:11:29 AM

Paris1127: Well... that was an unfortunate typo...


Great typo, or GREATEST typo?

"Tornado Coont" is now the name of my next band.
 
2012-11-21 09:32:07 AM
So Global Warming is the new Swiss Army Knife. It is whatever you need it to be!
 
2012-11-21 09:32:44 AM

Paris1127: Paris1127: Are you trying to see a record tornado coont next year? Then don't say anything about the lack of tornadoes this year, you'll jinx it

Well... that was an unfortunate typo...


I think I dated one of those in college.

But anywho, one thing that we do know is that Tornado Alley is growing in range.
 
2012-11-21 09:42:07 AM
The fact that "tornado alley" is almost all red states seems like God's telling you something.
 
2012-11-21 10:52:51 AM
Weather is not climate.
 
2012-11-21 10:53:01 AM

Somacandra: Paris1127: Well... that was an unfortunate typo...

Great typo, or GREATEST typo?

"Tornado Coont" is now the name of my next band.


Whereas Hurricane Twunt remains unused. Hmmm...
 
2012-11-21 10:54:14 AM
FTFA: The reason for the lack of tornadoes is the drought that gripped much of the country this summer and early fall, Henson said. Part of the reason for the drought - and hence the lack of tornado-producing storms - was the presence of a high-pressure "heat dome" over much of the country.

So, no rainstorms = no tornadoes? Who could have seen that coming?
 
2012-11-21 10:54:52 AM
Aren't tornadoes from when a mass of really warm air meets a mass of really cold air, they form a strong thunderstorm, and tornadoes spawn from that?

If the cold air was warmer, would there be as strong of thunderstorms when the still cold but now warmer air mass meets another warm air mass?

//Honest question actually, do thunderstorms form when a warm air mass meets a warmer air mass, what I've learned tells me no, but you might get some rain.
 
2012-11-21 10:56:05 AM

freewill: Somacandra: Paris1127: Well... that was an unfortunate typo...

Great typo, or GREATEST typo?

"Tornado Coont" is now the name of my next band.

Whereas Hurricane Twunt remains unused. Hmmm...



...as does "Cyclone Flaps".
 
2012-11-21 10:56:07 AM

Paris1127: Are you trying to see a record tornado coont CNV-79 next year? Then don't say anything about the lack of tornadoes this year, you'll jinx it

 
2012-11-21 10:57:36 AM
If the weather today is different then it was yesterday then the climate has changed. More funding please!
 
2012-11-21 10:57:53 AM
wouldnt the theoretical minimum be 0?
 
2012-11-21 10:57:58 AM

Somacandra: Paris1127: Well... that was an unfortunate typo...

Great typo, or GREATEST typo?

"Tornado Coont" is now the name of my next band.


What a tornado coont might look like...

Nahh...GIS that yourself. Results are way NSFW.
 
2012-11-21 10:58:25 AM

Flakeloaf: Weather is not climate.


Weather is a function of climate.
 
2012-11-21 10:59:28 AM
Maybe warming causes less tornadoes?
 
2012-11-21 10:59:31 AM
Calling all Fark Global Warming Experts...Attention all Fark Global Warming Experts. You are needed immediately in thread #7445143.

Remember to bring your insults, slander and graphs with you...

That is all.
 
2012-11-21 11:01:20 AM
Uh... weren't the largest recorded tornado outbreaks in history just last year?

April 14-16: 162
April 19-24: 100
April 25-28: 358
May 21-26: 242

Anything short of the apocalypse is gonna look downright weak compared to last year.
 
2012-11-21 11:02:24 AM
Yes, but several of the tornados we had this year were monsters, among the most powerful ever recorded.
 
2012-11-21 11:02:27 AM

Paris1127: Are you trying to see a record tornado coont next year? Then don't say anything about the lack of tornadoes this year, you'll jinx it


My CSB. Last year, my family and I were talking one night about how our town has been missing out on tornadoes for years, and how we were overdue. The next day, we had 9 tornadoes in our county, including the first one I had seen in my life.
 
2012-11-21 11:03:27 AM
I am grateful for the lack of tornadoes this past summer. For once, I didn't have to cower in my basement all season.
 
2012-11-21 11:03:37 AM
I saw Tornado Coont back in '84 during their "Breaking the Wind" tour. Shame they broke up.
 
2012-11-21 11:05:23 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: So Global Warming is the new Swiss Army Knife. It is whatever you need it to be!


Well, it sure as shiat is real. The question of "what is and isn't attributable to Global Warming?" should be moot. We SHOULD be asking "can we do anything to mitigate this?"

But we wouldn't want to accidentally leave the world in better shape for future generations.
 
2012-11-21 11:05:27 AM
This is consistent with global warming. Wind shear is necessary for tornado formation, and wind shear is predicted to decline as the planet warms.
 
2012-11-21 11:05:28 AM
No more winter or tornadoes? Global warming f*cking rules
 
2012-11-21 11:05:35 AM
Ignoring the fact that subby's an idiot and a troll for the moment, the stupid headline does sort of raise a question:

Does climate science in its current state-of-the-art make any predictions about global warming's effects on the expected number of tornadoes in the United States? Has it ever?

I don't remember seeing such a thing, but I'm just a layman. Educate me, somebody.
 
2012-11-21 11:06:10 AM

indarwinsshadow: Calling all Fark Global Warming Experts...Attention all Fark Global Warming Experts. You are needed immediately in thread #7445143.

Remember to bring your insults, slander and graphs with you...

That is all.


Climate Change is very real. We see the results of it over millions of years of Earth's history.

As for the tornadoes...it's entirely plausible we're going with a warning period, that Man has little impact on it, and the result will be fewer violent t-storms and drier conditions in the Midwest. One unfortunate side effect long term may be long, dry, hot summers similar to western Texas and places like Indiana become much less suitable for corn production.
 
2012-11-21 11:06:27 AM
It is real subby Al Gore said so!
i152.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-21 11:07:41 AM
I dated a tornado coont once.
 
2012-11-21 11:07:55 AM
Scientists have actually proven that global warming can cause both more tornadoes and fewer tornadoes. Additionally, global warming can occur and the number of tornadoes can actually remain unchanged, so it is silly to use tornado count to disprove global warming.

Try again, deniers.
 
2012-11-21 11:08:12 AM

LoneWolf343: Paris1127: Are you trying to see a record tornado coont next year? Then don't say anything about the lack of tornadoes this year, you'll jinx it

My CSB. Last year, my family and I were talking one night about how our town has been missing out on tornadoes for years, and how we were overdue. The next day, we had 9 tornadoes in our county, including the first one I had seen in my life.


Like, a tornado from your childhood came back to visit?
 
2012-11-21 11:08:16 AM

BeesNuts: The Stealth Hippopotamus: So Global Warming is the new Swiss Army Knife. It is whatever you need it to be!

Well, it sure as shiat is real. The question of "what is and isn't attributable to Global Warming?" should be moot. We SHOULD be asking "can we do anything to mitigate this?"

But we wouldn't want to accidentally leave the world in better shape for future generations.


fark em, they shoulda been here
 
2012-11-21 11:09:19 AM
Are you telling me the climate is changing or something?
 
2012-11-21 11:10:42 AM

hdhale: Somacandra: Paris1127: Well... that was an unfortunate typo...

Great typo, or GREATEST typo?

"Tornado Coont" is now the name of my next band.

What a tornado coont might look like...

Nahh...GIS that yourself. Results are way NSFW.


This one's SFW:
wonkette.com
 
2012-11-21 11:12:16 AM
At what point do I get to say 'fark it', and kick back with popcorn while waiting for the world to burn? I just want to see the looks on deniers' faces when the Armada Storms start marching across the planet.
 
2012-11-21 11:13:37 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: So Global Warming is the new Swiss Army Knife. It is whatever you need it to be!


Global warming is there anything it can't do?
Too hot=global warming. Too cold=Global warming. Too many tornados=Global warming. Not enough tornados=Global warming. We should throw more money at it, that should work
 
2012-11-21 11:14:54 AM
It's not the tornadoes, it's the damn flying cows doing all the damage!

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-21 11:17:48 AM

Paris1127: Are you trying to see a record tornado coont next year? Then don't say anything about the lack of tornadoes this year, you'll jinx it


Called it. Next year, record tornado's.
 
2012-11-21 11:20:29 AM

david_gaithersburg: If the weather today is different then it was yesterday then the climate has changed. More funding please!


1/10. Needs moar Gore.
 
2012-11-21 11:22:15 AM
IT WAS COLD THIS MORNING! GLOBAL WARMING IS A LIE FROM LYING LIE-BERALS!!1!
 
2012-11-21 11:24:30 AM

Somacandra: Paris1127: Well... that was an unfortunate typo...

Great typo, or GREATEST typo?

"Tornado Coont" is now the name of my next band.



That was my college girlfriend's nickname.
 
2012-11-21 11:24:56 AM
Yeah! And if evolution is real, why are there still monkeys?
 
2012-11-21 11:25:06 AM

indarwinsshadow: Calling all Fark Global Warming Experts...Attention all Fark Global Warming Experts. You are needed immediately in thread #7445143.

Remember to bring your insults, slander and graphs with you...

That is all.


I read that in the Civil Defense Van voice from Futurama: 

pool.theinfosphere.org 

/hot like 21st century atmo
 
2012-11-21 11:25:08 AM

PirateKing: At what point do I get to say 'fark it', and kick back with popcorn while waiting for the world to burn? I just want to see the looks on deniers' faces when the Armada Storms start marching across the planet.


Except you'll be long dead by then, even if it comes to pass. A few hundred years into the future, maybe?

That's just it, no one knows what significant amounts of extra CO2 will do to the climate, except that it's probably a bad idea on balance. The alarmists have done everything up to and including fudging numbers in order to get people to act now, while the deniers seize upon any gaffes or trends that show everything is ok as proof that the alarmist have it wrong.

Truth be told everyone is wrong. This planet has never had a perfectly circular orbit, the Sun has never put out an absolutely constant amount of light, radiation and heat, and there are additional outside influences like asteroids and comets slinging about that could raid the dice game at any moment. Simply put the thing deserves a lot more invested in study before we can safely conclude anything. But there are things we can do, like becoming more efficient with our use of fossil fuels and gradually weening ourselves off them that accomplish multiple goals (less pollution, less dependence on non-renewable resources) that we can move forward with regardless of the outcome on climate research.
 
2012-11-21 11:27:26 AM
You didn't get the memo did you?

Manbearpig has been slain, global warming is over
 
2012-11-21 11:29:06 AM

hdhale: indarwinsshadow: Calling all Fark Global Warming Experts...Attention all Fark Global Warming Experts. You are needed immediately in thread #7445143.

Remember to bring your insults, slander and graphs with you...

That is all.

Climate Change is very real. We see the results of it over millions of years of Earth's history.

As for the tornadoes...it's entirely plausible we're going with a warning period, that Man has little impact on it, and the result will be fewer violent t-storms and drier conditions in the Midwest. One unfortunate side effect long term may be long, dry, hot summers similar to western Texas and places like Indiana become much less suitable for corn production.


I believe that you believe it. Congratulations. Personally, I don't care what anyone believes. Global warming threads on fark are like gasoline and matches to pyromaniacs.

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And I packed away my deck chair for the season. Damn. Now I'll have to sit on the ground and watch...Hey out of curiousity. What's Black Friday? I see the ad's on television but I couldn't explain it to my son. - Canada
 
2012-11-21 11:35:19 AM
subby, subby, subby...

global warming is the McGyver, the swiss army knife cause of everything.

You see, we had a 100% perfect climate up until recently. So now,

if it is colder: climate change.
warmer: climate change.
more tornado: climate change
fewer tornadoes: climate change
more snow: climate change
less snow: climate change

of course, it is assumed that climate change is bad, since remember, it was absolutely perfect up until now.
 
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