Badgers: Dwight_Yeast: ShawnDoc: Now get Tom Baker back and you've got something to be excited about.

The problem with Tom Baker now isn't that he wouldn't do it (I suspect he would) but that he looks more like the Doctor's Grandfather than the guy who regenerated in the early 1980s.

Former Time Lord Tom Baker will return to 'Doctor Who' to mark the show's 50th anniversary.


My God... It's full of awesome!

Surool: Or... subby could have linked the article from Bleeding Cool that Den of Geek was summarizing.


This is Fark afterall, linking to a blog referencing another blog, neither of which have any references to anything but rumors are exactly the "not news" this place is famous for.

i'm not sure how i feel about some Doctors wearing crocs.

They should have Tennant play the Master in disguise.

Is it me, or maybe Tom Baker should play Jon Pertwee's doctor. Okay the voice might be a problem, but that TARDIS is always having accidents.

For Tom Baker, you could always have his character pulled out of time during the events of The Leisure Hive. Unfortunately, that would mean you'd be stuck with the boring burgundy outfit and scarf.

I really don't want to see the older Who actors (even Davison and McCoy) trotting around in their old Who costumes. The New Who actors (and McGann), still have their "look." There is no amount of makeup on the planet that can bring Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy back to their prior appearance.

I think just having them cameo in other roles or just have a documentary/interview special with them would be just fine. Have a show that brings about how McGann regenerated.

/there is a new emphasis on bringing McGann back on BigFinish and his turn to wearing/acting like Ecceleston's doctor more...bridge?

I will add that a plot could work: an enemy has managed to trap several Doctors through time and prevent them from regenerating, just forcing them to grow old over the centuries in a sort of never ending cycle. As a result, the current Doctor's incarnation weakens severely, enough that this enemy somewhat takes over. It becomes up to the 11th Doctor to free his past selves, forcing them to regenerate and send the energy back to him so he can deal with the threat.

/meh. Still prefer documentary

Eccleston won't do it because it would require acting in a production people might actually watch.

I will be surprised if it's actually good... this season has been ass all around.. but the time amy and rory left i was PRAYING for them to be gone finally...

But will Craig Ferguson be in it?

BattleFrenchie28: But will Craig Ferguson be in it?

Blimey. It looks like something off of Doctor Who.

Thanks Dad.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I really don't want to see the older Who actors (even Davison and McCoy) trotting around in their old Who costumes. The New Who actors (and McGann), still have their "look." There is no amount of makeup on the planet that can bring Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy back to their prior appearance.

I think just having them cameo in other roles or just have a documentary/interview special with them would be just fine. Have a show that brings about how McGann regenerated.

/there is a new emphasis on bringing McGann back on BigFinish and his turn to wearing/acting like Ecceleston's doctor more...bridge?

Was just coming in to talk about Big Finish.

For those who haven't heard any of BF's Doctor Who range, you're in for a treat. All of the surviving classic era Doctors (including Tom Baker as of this past year) acting in full audio adventures. You'll find a long list of former companions (Leela, Romana I and II, Ace, Peri, Nyssa and a whole bunch of others) as well.

For McGann fans, he stars in a ton of his own stories. They don't cover actual Time War material (BF isn't licensed to cover any material introduced in the new BBC series, unfortunately), but you get a sense that his adventures are leading up to that.

In fact, some of the folks working for Big Finish also do work for the current TV series as well. Nick Briggs, for example, does a ton of voicework and production for BF as well as voicing the Daleks in the new series.

The other thing that BF does is to explore new territory. While they do have the classic enemies for the Doctor to face, they introduce new ones. He also has new companions that are unique to the Big Finish line. They aren't afraid to take us to new places and meet new folks along the way.

BF also has made some spinoffs from the DW line. The Jago & Litefoot (based on the classic characters from Talons of Weng Chiang) series is brilliant. Gallifrey focuses on President Romana and the Gallifreyan society thrust into turmoil. Dalek Empire was fun.

Link to BF.

Also, I'll chuck in my support for the return of Paul McGann for the 50th. Guy deserves a second chance on the TV.

No Eric Roberts though, I beg you.

/there's a david tennant's teeth tumblr

adammpower: i'm not sure how i feel about some Doctors wearing crocs.

Time Lords should NEVER wear Crocs. Only toddlers should, if ever.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I really don't want to see the older Who actors (even Davison and McCoy) trotting around in their old Who costumes. The New Who actors (and McGann), still have their "look." There is no amount of makeup on the planet that can bring Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy back to their prior appearance.

I think just having them cameo in other roles or just have a documentary/interview special with them would be just fine. Have a show that brings about how McGann regenerated.

Agreed. I always felt like McGann was a good actor/doctor and got the short end of the stick. I'd like to see an official flashback explaining his part of the timewar.

Rwa2play: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I will add that a plot could work: an enemy has managed to trap several Doctors through time and prevent them from regenerating, just forcing them to grow old over the centuries in a sort of never ending cycle. As a result, the current Doctor's incarnation weakens severely, enough that this enemy somewhat takes over. It becomes up to the 11th Doctor to free his past selves, forcing them to regenerate and send the energy back to him so he can deal with the threat.

/meh. Still prefer documentary

Can I add to that:

-- EVERYBODY comes back for this one including River, his "daughter" and...Captain Jack.
-- Sadly Lalla Ward passed away IIRC...part of my idea was River knowing about the Time War and telling Romana so that when she entered that period she would figure out a way to end the Time War. Something that would be dealt with at the end of the 50th Anniversary season. (Since there's no way you accurately represent the Time War itself, might as well give it a proper ending)
-- River regenerates at the end of the story (the how I'm still thinking about).

Lalla is still very much alive. Elisabeth Sladen passed recently as did the Brig. :(

Walt_Jizzney: adammpower: i'm not sure how i feel about some Doctors wearing crocs.

Time Lords should NEVER wear Crocs. Only toddlers should, if ever.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I really don't want to see the older Who actors (even Davison and McCoy) trotting around in their old Who costumes. The New Who actors (and McGann), still have their "look." There is no amount of makeup on the planet that can bring Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy back to their prior appearance.

I think just having them cameo in other roles or just have a documentary/interview special with them would be just fine. Have a show that brings about how McGann regenerated.

Agreed. I always felt like McGann was a good actor/doctor and got the short end of the stick. I'd like to see an official flashback explaining his part of the timewar.

I always pictured he was fighting during the Time War and was "killed." Regenerating into the 9th Doctor, making sense that the 9th Doctor was war born and had did not mind killing people. Seeing that the Doctor was the one that ended the Time War by using "The Moment" and committing genocide of two races.

adammpower:

Apparently only one TARDIS had Grecian 2000

Rwa2play: yves0010: I always pictured he was fighting during the Time War and was "killed." Regenerating into the 9th Doctor, making sense that the 9th Doctor was war born and had did not mind killing people. Seeing that the Doctor was the one that ended the Time War by using "The Moment" and committing genocide of two races.

According to the Wikipedia entry on the Time War, it stated that the Time Lords involved in the War were given a new set of regenerations. So I'm not too sure about your theory; then again, when a Time Lord is given a new set of regenerations, do they have to willingly regenerate in order to restart the cycle? Or does the cycle start when they are going to die?

My theory can still hold ground because he is still war born. Even if he was forced to regenerate like the 2nd Doctor. He would have regenerated because of the war. He was a solder and fought in the war. And we know it was he who had control of "the moment" due to The End of Time part 1 and 2 where we are given that information. He also talked about him being the one that killed all the Time Lords seen multiple times in the New Who series, notably the Fear me talk in The Doctor's Wife.

I'd like to add another "Matt Smith sucks" to this conversation.

That is all. Carry on...

The Doctor bringing in his other incarnations to fight the Time War would be epic, but that would require 8 & 9 primarily - unless it's about 11 going back to try to mitigate the damages done and releasing the 'good' timelords. He's made it very clear he's lonely for his own kind and is seeking anyone who may have gotten out of the time-lock like the Daleks did.

Or: The Valeyard. That is all.

Mr_Juche: They could get all of the Doctors through Tupac-style shenanigans



Or R. Kelly shenanigans

/there's enough space for everyone

905: Rwa2play: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I will add that a plot could work: an enemy has managed to trap several Doctors through time and prevent them from regenerating, just forcing them to grow old over the centuries in a sort of never ending cycle. As a result, the current Doctor's incarnation weakens severely, enough that this enemy somewhat takes over. It becomes up to the 11th Doctor to free his past selves, forcing them to regenerate and send the energy back to him so he can deal with the threat.

/meh. Still prefer documentary

Can I add to that:

-- EVERYBODY comes back for this one including River, his "daughter" and...Captain Jack.
-- Sadly Lalla Ward passed away IIRC...part of my idea was River knowing about the Time War and telling Romana so that when she entered that period she would figure out a way to end the Time War. Something that would be dealt with at the end of the 50th Anniversary season. (Since there's no way you accurately represent the Time War itself, might as well give it a proper ending)
-- River regenerates at the end of the story (the how I'm still thinking about).

Lalla is still very much alive. Elisabeth Sladen passed recently as did the Brig. :(

And the original Romana. I think that was where he got confused. She passed away earlier this year.

Rwa2play: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I will add that a plot could work: an enemy has managed to trap several Doctors through time and prevent them from regenerating, just forcing them to grow old over the centuries in a sort of never ending cycle. As a result, the current Doctor's incarnation weakens severely, enough that this enemy somewhat takes over. It becomes up to the 11th Doctor to free his past selves, forcing them to regenerate and send the energy back to him so he can deal with the threat.

/meh. Still prefer documentary

Can I add to that:

-- EVERYBODY comes back for this one including River, his "daughter" and...Captain Jack.
-- Sadly Lalla Ward passed away IIRC...part of my idea was River knowing about the Time War and telling Romana so that when she entered that period she would figure out a way to end the Time War. Something that would be dealt with at the end of the 50th Anniversary season. (Since there's no way you accurately represent the Time War itself, might as well give it a proper ending)
-- River regenerates at the end of the story (the how I'm still thinking about).

She got better

Richard_The_Clown: 905: Rwa2play: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I will add that a plot could work: an enemy has managed to trap several Doctors through time and prevent them from regenerating, just forcing them to grow old over the centuries in a sort of never ending cycle. As a result, the current Doctor's incarnation weakens severely, enough that this enemy somewhat takes over. It becomes up to the 11th Doctor to free his past selves, forcing them to regenerate and send the energy back to him so he can deal with the threat.

/meh. Still prefer documentary

Can I add to that:

-- EVERYBODY comes back for this one including River, his "daughter" and...Captain Jack.
-- Sadly Lalla Ward passed away IIRC...part of my idea was River knowing about the Time War and telling Romana so that when she entered that period she would figure out a way to end the Time War. Something that would be dealt with at the end of the 50th Anniversary season. (Since there's no way you accurately represent the Time War itself, might as well give it a proper ending)
-- River regenerates at the end of the story (the how I'm still thinking about).

Lalla is still very much alive. Elisabeth Sladen passed recently as did the Brig. :(

And the original Romana. I think that was where he got confused. She passed away earlier this year.

Yes, Mary Tamm, who remains poorly represented on the "hottest companion" lists.

/same with Janet Fielding

I'm sorry. I am so sorry.

Richard_The_Clown: 905: Rwa2play: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I will add that a plot could work: an enemy has managed to trap several Doctors through time and prevent them from regenerating, just forcing them to grow old over the centuries in a sort of never ending cycle. As a result, the current Doctor's incarnation weakens severely, enough that this enemy somewhat takes over. It becomes up to the 11th Doctor to free his past selves, forcing them to regenerate and send the energy back to him so he can deal with the threat.

/meh. Still prefer documentary

Can I add to that:

-- EVERYBODY comes back for this one including River, his "daughter" and...Captain Jack.
-- Sadly Lalla Ward passed away IIRC...part of my idea was River knowing about the Time War and telling Romana so that when she entered that period she would figure out a way to end the Time War. Something that would be dealt with at the end of the 50th Anniversary season. (Since there's no way you accurately represent the Time War itself, might as well give it a proper ending)
-- River regenerates at the end of the story (the how I'm still thinking about).

Lalla is still very much alive. Elisabeth Sladen passed recently as did the Brig. :(

And the original Romana. I think that was where he got confused. She passed away earlier this year.

Oh, you're absolutely right! Forgot Mary Tamm had passed away during this past summer.

FirstNationalBastard: Maybe now we'll get a chance to see just what kind of a Doctor Matt Smith can be.

He does the 'Old man in youthful body' SO very well. You look at him when nobody else is around and he looks ancient somehow.

adammpower: i'm not sure how i feel about some Doctors wearing crocs.

Time Lords wear crocs now. Crocs are cool.

I've got your next Doctor and companion right here.

It would be great to see Leela again. Has she aged well? Perhaps she has finally merged the Svr Team and the Tech?

Walt_Jizzney: It would be great to see Leela again. Has she aged well? Perhaps she has finally merged the Svr Team and the Tech?

No. Louise Jameson was the "special guest" on Doc Martin last year. Add about 70 to 80 pounds.

yves0010: Rwa2play: yves0010: I always pictured he was fighting during the Time War and was "killed." Regenerating into the 9th Doctor, making sense that the 9th Doctor was war born and had did not mind killing people. Seeing that the Doctor was the one that ended the Time War by using "The Moment" and committing genocide of two races.

According to the Wikipedia entry on the Time War, it stated that the Time Lords involved in the War were given a new set of regenerations. So I'm not too sure about your theory; then again, when a Time Lord is given a new set of regenerations, do they have to willingly regenerate in order to restart the cycle? Or does the cycle start when they are going to die?

My theory can still hold ground because he is still war born. Even if he was forced to regenerate like the 2nd Doctor. He would have regenerated because of the war. He was a solder and fought in the war. And we know it was he who had control of "the moment" due to The End of Time part 1 and 2 where we are given that information. He also talked about him being the one that killed all the Time Lords seen multiple times in the New Who series, notably the Fear me talk in The Doctor's Wife.

I'll nerd out here for a moment and join your conversation. Since we know that he regenerated into 9 either at or near the end of the Time War since he got his first look at himself during the episode,"Rose." We know that Time Lords are more or less indestructible when regenerating as well so one could assume that 8 used this fact as his ace in the hole. He could have mortally wounded himself prior to using The Moment so he could simultaneously regenerate himself right back into existence while everybody else perished.

I'm speculating of course but that's what one does while they're in the toilet.

there4igraham: yves0010: Rwa2play: yves0010: I always pictured he was fighting during the Time War and was "killed." Regenerating into the 9th Doctor, making sense that the 9th Doctor was war born and had did not mind killing people. Seeing that the Doctor was the one that ended the Time War by using "The Moment" and committing genocide of two races.

According to the Wikipedia entry on the Time War, it stated that the Time Lords involved in the War were given a new set of regenerations. So I'm not too sure about your theory; then again, when a Time Lord is given a new set of regenerations, do they have to willingly regenerate in order to restart the cycle? Or does the cycle start when they are going to die?

My theory can still hold ground because he is still war born. Even if he was forced to regenerate like the 2nd Doctor. He would have regenerated because of the war. He was a solder and fought in the war. And we know it was he who had control of "the moment" due to The End of Time part 1 and 2 where we are given that information. He also talked about him being the one that killed all the Time Lords seen multiple times in the New Who series, notably the Fear me talk in The Doctor's Wife.

I'll nerd out here for a moment and join your conversation. Since we know that he regenerated into 9 either at or near the end of the Time War since he got his first look at himself during the episode,"Rose." We know that Time Lords are more or less indestructible when regenerating as well so one could assume that 8 used this fact as his ace in the hole. He could have mortally wounded himself prior to using The Moment so he could simultaneously regenerate himself right back into existence while everybody else perished.

I'm speculating of course but that's what one does while they're in the toilet.

It's been pretty well established that the opposite is true: if you interrupt a Time Lord's regeneration, it finishes them off. I think this concept came about in the switch from Baker to Davison.

whizbangthedirtfarmer:
It's been pretty well established that the opposite is true: if you interrupt a Time Lord's regeneration, it finishes them off. I think this concept came about in the switch from B ...

Sorry. I meant to say post-regeneration. If you cut their hand off they essentially grow a new one.

there4igraham: whizbangthedirtfarmer:
It's been pretty well established that the opposite is true: if you interrupt a Time Lord's regeneration, it finishes them off. I think this concept came about in the switch from B ...

Sorry. I meant to say post-regeneration. If you cut their hand off they essentially grow a new one.

True, but I'm not sure if the writers want to go into the "invincible" thing. The Tennant hand was cute, but was due from the excess energy (probably) he had absorbed from the TARDIS. It seemed to me a one-and-done deal.

whizbangthedirtfarmer:

True, but I'm not sure if the writers want to go into the "invincible" thing. The Tennant hand was cute, but was due from the excess energy (probably) he had absorbed from the TARDIS. It seemed to me a one-and-done deal.

Except in Let's Kill Hitler, when River absorbed and blasted back out several rounds of ammo shot from the germans.....

DeathLemur: AdolfOliverPanties: Kind of expected that.

If they can get Eccleston or Pertwee, then they will have accomplished something.


If they got Pertwee, that really would be an accomplishment, seeing he's been dead for 16 years...

MadSkillz: ShawnDoc: Badgers: Dwight_Yeast: ShawnDoc: Now get Tom Baker back and you've got something to be excited about.

The problem with Tom Baker now isn't that he wouldn't do it (I suspect he would) but that he looks more like the Doctor's Grandfather than the guy who regenerated in the early 1980s.

Former Time Lord Tom Baker will return to 'Doctor Who' to mark the show's 50th anniversary.

I'm hard.

And any easy way to explaining the aging of the previous Doctors:
A) Ignore it, like they did on all the other X Doctor's episodes
B) Pull the past incarnations from alternate timelines where that version of the Doctor was never forced to regenerate and continued to age.

Not even that. Could just be fake versions of their selves, collected by some insane person who collects Doctors, like some sort of clone or something. Then they could interact and i wouldn't even feel guilty if Sylvester McCoy then dies repeatedly (his Doctor was like watching a shiatty actor imitate Gene Wilder playing Willy Wonka).

I never liked McCoy as the Doctor except for "The Curse of Fenric."

/always thought Colin Baker got the shaft