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(Salon)   The Complete Idiot's Guide to Wal-Mart's Black Friday Showdown, which pits low-wage workers against greedy management and owners   (salon.com) divider line 370
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2012-11-20 10:10:31 PM  
I, for one, welcome our new underpaid Walmart worker overlords.
 
2012-11-20 10:12:52 PM  
Should start taking bets on how many get trampled/pepper-sprayed in what cities.
 
2012-11-20 10:27:52 PM  

gopher321: Should start taking bets on how many get trampled/pepper-sprayed in what cities.


Not many, it's the ones in the stores who will get trampled.

Link
 
2012-11-20 10:32:47 PM  
base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.
 
2012-11-20 10:34:44 PM  
someone please tell me what Fox News thinks I should think so I can have an independent opinion on this
 
2012-11-20 10:35:03 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.


Which I'm sure is a delight to the people at WalMart working poverty-level wages with no insurance coverage & forced and unpaid overtime. But hey, 5% of almost nothing!
 
2012-11-20 10:35:21 PM  

JosephFinn: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

Which I'm sure is a delight to the people at WalMart working poverty-level wages with no insurance coverage & forced and unpaid overtime. But hey, 5% of almost nothing!


Beggars can't be choosers.
 
2012-11-20 10:35:27 PM  
Go greedy management! Squeeze those workers! They thought they could just fark around in high school and get away with it? Hah.
 
2012-11-20 10:36:39 PM  

JosephFinn: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

Which I'm sure is a delight to the people at WalMart working poverty-level wages with no insurance coverage & forced and unpaid overtime. But hey, 5% of almost nothing!


Dont worry obamacare will save them!
 
2012-11-20 10:37:06 PM  
What's wrong with the executives earning 1% less if it means your lowest paid staff member earns a living wage?
 
2012-11-20 10:37:14 PM  
It is another Union trying to bleed poor unskilled workers of their union dues. Ask the Hostess how much their union has done for them.
 
2012-11-20 10:37:17 PM  
I was told they're striking because they just don't want to work holidays.

/I know it's because they want to form a union without Walmart quashing them
 
2012-11-20 10:37:43 PM  
I make it a tradition to get rip-roaring drunk after Thanksgiving and therefore remove all potential that I will be doing any Black Friday shopping.
 
2012-11-20 10:38:00 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's wrong with the executives earning 1% less if it means your lowest paid staff member earns a living wage?


Because it's socialism and we can't have that in our completely free market capitalism.
 
2012-11-20 10:39:03 PM  
 
2012-11-20 10:39:34 PM  

Trafficguy2000: JosephFinn: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

Which I'm sure is a delight to the people at WalMart working poverty-level wages with no insurance coverage & forced and unpaid overtime. But hey, 5% of almost nothing!

Dont worry obamacare will save them!


The insurance exchanges, to be sure, are a good start.
 
2012-11-20 10:39:45 PM  
This thread is going to suck.
 
2012-11-20 10:40:56 PM  
I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...
 
2012-11-20 10:41:11 PM  
Best advice: Shop local.
 
2012-11-20 10:41:15 PM  
FTA,
a Demos study that says that raising the salary of all full-time workers at large retailers to $25,000 per year would lift more than 700,000 people out of poverty, at a cost of only a 1 percent price increase for customers.

Instead of adding the price increase to the customers, why not take it out of the Walton family pay packet. You know who, those five of the top 10 richest Americans.
 
2012-11-20 10:41:48 PM  
Farking iPad autocomplete....
 
2012-11-20 10:43:07 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.


but, but, but that's not FAIR! Sure, I have no skills and can only stack boxes on a shelf - but I'm ENTITLED to have a 65" TV, a new car, a large house, every available cable channel, and a cell phone for my 6 year old. I DEMAND you pay me more!!!
 
2012-11-20 10:43:42 PM  

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...


While pay is part of the equation, just as much or more is about what is endured for such pay.

FTFA: Walmart employees across the country have a host of grievances including unsafe and unsanitary working conditions, sexual harassment, excessive hours, forced labor and low pay.

Wal-Mart is squeezing its workers for no other reason than it can.
 
2012-11-20 10:44:20 PM  
The one up the road from me has been targeted, and I fully expect to go to cheer the workers on, then go inside and buy something just to add to the workload.

LULZ will be had by all.

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...


Have you looked for a job lately?
 
2012-11-20 10:44:27 PM  

Too Pretty For Prison: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

but, but, but that's not FAIR! Sure, I have no skills and can only stack boxes on a shelf - but I'm ENTITLED to have a 65" TV, a new car, a large house, every available cable channel, and a cell phone for my 6 year old. I DEMAND you pay me more!!!


I mean, I've worked here for six whole weeks!
 
2012-11-20 10:44:29 PM  

sgnilward: This thread is going to suck.


You're goddam right.

Hickory-smoked: Best advice: Shop local.


Best advice: Don't shop on Thanksgiving.
 
2012-11-20 10:44:46 PM  

Summoner101: I was told they're striking because they just don't want to work holidays.

/I know it's because they want to form a union without Walmart quashing them


And it really would be a good idea for Walmart employees to unionize, if possible.

The types of worker hours policy shenanigans Walmart is trying to pull is little better than slave driving.
 
2012-11-20 10:44:59 PM  

Too Pretty For Prison: but, but, but that's not FAIR! Sure, I have no skills and can only stack boxes on a shelf - but I'm ENTITLED to have a 65" TV, a new car, a large house, every available cable channel, and a cell phone for my 6 year old. I DEMAND you pay me more!!!


You forgot refrigerator, you hyperbolic fark.
 
2012-11-20 10:45:30 PM  

MFAWG: Have you looked for a job lately?


I was told the job situation was fixed. Thanks Obama!
 
2012-11-20 10:45:47 PM  
good, good. I love war.

/May both sides lose.
 
2012-11-20 10:46:22 PM  

Too Pretty For Prison: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

but, but, but that's not FAIR! Sure, I have no skills and can only stack boxes on a shelf - but I'm ENTITLED to have a 65" TV, a new car, a large house, every available cable channel, and a cell phone for my 6 year old. I DEMAND you pay me more!!!


How about they get paid enough so they don't soak up welfare, SNAP, and Medicaid benefits?
 
2012-11-20 10:46:37 PM  
The average minimum wage in Australia/Europe/Japan is $16.50.
 
2012-11-20 10:46:49 PM  
Pretty sure management doesn't want to do it either, at least at the store level. But hey, the Walton family needs another sports team, you know?
 
2012-11-20 10:46:53 PM  

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...

Seriously!!! These dumbasses take these low paying jobs when there are plenty of high paying jobs just sitting there unfiiled! Man those poor sure are stupid!
 
2012-11-20 10:47:14 PM  

smitty04: Ask the Hostess how much their union has done for them.


Yes, ask them.
 
2012-11-20 10:47:47 PM  
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2012-11-20 10:48:32 PM  

drewsclues: sgnilward: This thread is going to suck.

You're goddam right.

Hickory-smoked: Best advice: Shop local.

Best advice: Don't shop on Thanksgiving.


Best advice is shop online and buy groceries at Meijer, Walmart or Kroger and curse all of them for putting the milk in the far back corner.
 
2012-11-20 10:48:39 PM  

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: MFAWG: Have you looked for a job lately?

I was told the job situation was fixed. Thanks Obama!


No, seriously: You stated that nobody forced these people to take these jobs. These people have mouths to feed. That's what forces them to take these jobs.

So, have you looked for a job, ever?
 
2012-11-20 10:48:53 PM  

Coelacanth: The average minimum wage in Australia/Europe/Japan is $16.50.


Edward Rooney Dean of Students: MFAWG: Have you looked for a job lately?

I was told the job situation was fixed. Thanks Obama!


The situation is as fixed as it ever was. The only difference is that this time the unemployed have gadgets and an internet to tell you how the situation is. I DON'T HAVE A farkING JOB! #noteventrying
 
2012-11-20 10:48:58 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...
Seriously!!! These dumbasses take these low paying jobs when there are plenty of high paying jobs just sitting there unfiiled! Man those poor sure are stupid!


Not the point at all. But taking a minimum wage job and expecting it to be something more than that is not exactly bright.
 
2012-11-20 10:49:08 PM  

Summoner101: Too Pretty For Prison: AverageAmericanGuy: base pay at Walmart's Sam's Place stores can be as low as $8 an hour, with wage increases in increments as low as 20 or 40 cents per hour.

To put it another way, the raises are between 2.5% and 5%, in line with most other industries.

but, but, but that's not FAIR! Sure, I have no skills and can only stack boxes on a shelf - but I'm ENTITLED to have a 65" TV, a new car, a large house, every available cable channel, and a cell phone for my 6 year old. I DEMAND you pay me more!!!

How about they get paid enough so they don't soak up welfare, SNAP, and Medicaid benefits?


Oh SNAP!
 
2012-11-20 10:49:18 PM  

Summoner101: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's wrong with the executives earning 1% less if it means your lowest paid staff member earns a living wage?

Because it's socialism and we can't have that in our completely free market capitalism.


It's not even socialism though. It's a net positive for society, even with a heavily capitalist mixed economy, to have a strong and thriving middle class.

Time and time again throughout history, it's clearly demonstrated that severe discrepancies in income (with 1 or 2% holding a supermajority of wealth) leads to wholesale financial collapse.

In the long-term, the rich would be better served by being a little less rich in the short-term in exchange for an economically secure labor force.
 
2012-11-20 10:49:20 PM  

LemSkroob: good, good. I love war.

/May both sides lose.


So you are against corporations AND labor. You just want to watch the world burn don't you?
 
2012-11-20 10:49:41 PM  

MFAWG: The one up the road from me has been targeted, and I fully expect to go to cheer the workers on, then go inside and buy something just to add to the workload.

LULZ will be had by all.

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm confused; nowhere in the article does it explain that these people were FORCED to take these jobs without knowing what the wage was. I men, that had to be case, right? Otherwise...

Have you looked for a job lately?


No. You gotta go fill up a cart with frozen and perishable groceries. Go wait in line, then decide the line is too long and leave empty handed.
 
2012-11-20 10:50:10 PM  
You forgot refrigerator, you hyperbolic fark.

I didn't forget - I just didn't want to appear to be a hyperbolic fark
 
2012-11-20 10:50:11 PM  
My niece works at Wal*Mart at the deli counter. She is 30 years old, unmarried, with a two year-old. Why yes, she is on food stamps and Medicaid - why do you ask?
 
2012-11-20 10:50:26 PM  

Coelacanth: The average minimum wage in Australia/Europe/Japan is $16.50.


BS
 
2012-11-20 10:50:36 PM  

gopher321: Should start taking bets on how many get trampled/pepper-sprayed in what cities.


upload.wikimedia.org
Pepper spray? What sort of pansy is running this company?
 
2012-11-20 10:50:45 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Summoner101: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's wrong with the executives earning 1% less if it means your lowest paid staff member earns a living wage?

Because it's socialism and we can't have that in our completely free market capitalism.

It's not even socialism though. It's a net positive for society, even with a heavily capitalist mixed economy, to have a strong and thriving middle class.

Time and time again throughout history, it's clearly demonstrated that severe discrepancies in income (with 1 or 2% holding a supermajority of wealth) leads to wholesale financial collapse.

In the long-term, the rich would be better served by being a little less rich in the short-term in exchange for an economically secure labor force.


Just to let you know, I was being facetious and I agree with you.
 
2012-11-20 10:50:50 PM  
I do my best to stay the hell out of WallyWorld as I can. I don't think that I have been inside one in 3 years.
 
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