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2012-11-20 04:11:21 PM
It's hard to say who is more hilariously overrated - Joe Namath or Tim Tebow. I mean, I think Tebow has him beat on just overall total knob-slobbing, but Namath is in the Hall of Fame with some of the worst QB numbers I've ever seen.

That being said, Namath looks like he had a pretty kick-ass time in the media spotlight, so good for him.
 
2012-11-20 04:22:33 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-20 04:23:12 PM
Remember what I told you... Just one thing... My car broke down... I'm Joe Namath... My car broke down... It was just vapor lock... vapor lock...
 
2012-11-20 04:23:53 PM
I wanna kiss you.
 
2012-11-20 04:25:58 PM
Every Oklahoma Football Player from 1987 called and wants their fur coat, Trans Am, & Diamond ear ring back.
 
2012-11-20 04:26:01 PM
Is anyone surprised a site named "Kissing Suzy Kolber" would be kissing Broadway Joe's ass?
 
2012-11-20 04:29:16 PM

Treygreen13: It's hard to say who is more hilariously overrated - Joe Namath or Tim Tebow. I mean, I think Tebow has him beat on just overall total knob-slobbing, but Namath is in the Hall of Fame with some of the worst QB numbers I've ever seen.

That being said, Namath looks like he had a pretty kick-ass time in the media spotlight, so good for him.


Here's an argument that he belongs on the merits.

Link

Not saying I agree, but his numbers look better in context than at first glance. Anyway, the NFL Hall of Fame is much more about big games and impact than overall numbers. That's why Namath is in and Kenny Anderson isn't.

Anderson

Namath
 
2012-11-20 04:46:43 PM

keypusher: Anyway, the NFL Hall of Fame is much more about big games and impact than overall numbers.


And, of course, media love.

I've seen the Namath numbers and they don't impress me at all. Even with some significant number fluffing his best case scenario is that he was above average for couple of seasons.
 
2012-11-20 04:49:51 PM
Sports was much cooler before a host of statistic slobbering geeks forced their forensic analysis of games on us all.
 
2012-11-20 04:54:06 PM

doubled99: Sports was much cooler before a host of statistic slobbering geeks forced their forensic analysis of games on us all.


Ah yes, the glory days of when a QB could throw more INTs than TDs and lose half their games and be lauded for being the best. Truly the Golden Age of sport.
 
2012-11-20 04:56:26 PM
Trent Dilfer is about equally qualified to be in the HoF. As is Mark Rypen. Actually I think Ken O'Bryan had better #s than Namath. He just never went along for the ride to the SB.
 
2012-11-20 04:59:15 PM

keypusher: Not saying I agree, but his numbers look better in context than at first glance. Anyway, the NFL Hall of Fame is much more about big games and impact than overall numbers. That's why Namath is in and Kenny Anderson isn't.


Joe Namath is in the HOF because he ran his mouth and engineered the upset of the Colts in Super Bowl III. If you want to make a case that one event is significant enough in NFL history to warrant admission to the Hall of Fame, I'm right there with you.

Aside from that, he took a team to the playoffs only twice, and even in that extremely friendly statistical breakdown the author dismisses a year when Namath only played 5 games yet relies on two in which he played a total of 10 in his "above average" category. It's an incredible reach to make a statistical case for him.
 
2012-11-20 05:07:15 PM
Broadway Joe was a PIMP.
 
2012-11-20 05:12:35 PM

lakrfool: Broadway Joe was a PIMP.


He was. If Tebow was living the lifestyle that Joe was... Fark would have 9 threads a day about how awesome he was and the rest of the country would be booing him at every opportunity. It would be bizarro-NFL.
 
2012-11-20 05:15:32 PM

Treygreen13: It's hard to say who is more hilariously overrated - Joe Namath or Tim Tebow. I mean, I think Tebow has him beat on just overall total knob-slobbing, but Namath is in the Hall of Fame with some of the worst QB numbers I've ever seen.

That being said, Namath looks like he had a pretty kick-ass time in the media spotlight, so good for him.


So would you say his reputation as a player is stru-ggle-ling?
 
2012-11-20 05:18:02 PM

Orgasmatron138: Treygreen13: It's hard to say who is more hilariously overrated - Joe Namath or Tim Tebow. I mean, I think Tebow has him beat on just overall total knob-slobbing, but Namath is in the Hall of Fame with some of the worst QB numbers I've ever seen.

That being said, Namath looks like he had a pretty kick-ass time in the media spotlight, so good for him.

So would you say his reputation as a player is stru-ggle-ling?


s3.guyism.com

Apparently Joe tweets.
 
2012-11-20 05:26:45 PM
Namath, while not a great quarterback in terms of numbers, DID put the Jets on the National Radar.
Once he left the Jets became, once again, the distant second "other team" in New York.

Comparing them as media figures; Namath was EVERYWHERE in the 1970's.
Tebow has a fawning coterie of fans but he is nowhere near the figure in any way that Namath was.
 
2012-11-20 05:27:59 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: [cdn.ksk.uproxx.com image 511x650]

How could he not have the hugest boner?


That happened after Cindy moved into the middle
 
2012-11-20 05:32:15 PM

muck4doo: Because People in power are Stupid: [cdn.ksk.uproxx.com image 511x650]

How could he not have the hugest boner?

That happened after Cindy moved into the middle


[pedobear.jpg]
 
2012-11-20 05:35:19 PM
Phil Simms belong in the HOF. I hated and feared him as the Giants' QB.

I've seen the argument for Anderson getting in before, but am generally unfamiliar with his work.
 
2012-11-20 05:44:03 PM

Treygreen13: It's hard to say who is more hilariously overrated - Joe Namath or Tim Tebow. I mean, I think Tebow has him beat on just overall total knob-slobbing, but Namath is in the Hall of Fame with some of the worst QB numbers I've ever seen.

That being said, Namath looks like he had a pretty kick-ass time in the media spotlight, so good for him.


Namath actually got his knob LITERALLY slobbered, while Tebow is abstinent.

Advantage: Namath.
 
2012-11-20 05:51:16 PM

Rhypskallion: Phil Simms belong in the HOF. I hated and feared him as the Giants' QB.


All those blows to the head have finally caught up with him.

"If I didn't know, I'd say the Colts let them score because the game is close." (when NE was up by 4 TDs)

"It's a NEW position in the NFL, the slot receiver, it's only come about in the last 6, 7, 8 years."

"It just tries to explains, Tom Brady still likes throwing to receivers."

"When you have to kick it hard, you give up some ackcracy, you really give up some ackcracy."

"If they run by you, they can... but.. guy... by... they can run... one guy by you."

"Looks at the QB's eyes, he stops, looks, stop, and stops the pass."

"Peyton Manning said last week my protection was awesome! Well I'm not sure if he said awesome."

"A word I never use in my life unabated or inconclusive".

"His name is Eugene if you're wondering what T.Y. stands for."

"What little I know about being a receiver, keep your arms in, makes you fast."

"Roethlisberger makes the detigtion."

"You gotta chase a guy across the whole field, just doin' him."

"Nothing bad can happen when you throw the ball down the field."

"Didn't see it, I was too busy talking."

"Look at these feet, BING, BOG. It's like a video game."

"He can find the football, good footwork, he can just play sports."

"It's harder to buy time against the Giants defense because you can fool them."

"Only one problem to wearing gloves is it can wobble and go off line. That's just a minor problem."

"Giants love to throw the ball vertically and that means down the field."

"That football, it's amazing." 
 
2012-11-20 05:54:36 PM

Treygreen13: keypusher: Anyway, the NFL Hall of Fame is much more about big games and impact than overall numbers.

And, of course, media love.

I've seen the Namath numbers and they don't impress me at all. Even with some significant number fluffing his best case scenario is that he was above average for couple of seasons.


Bart Starr is in the HoF with 3,000 less yards than Namath...but double the Super Bowl rings.

Link
 
2012-11-20 06:09:35 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Treygreen13: keypusher: Anyway, the NFL Hall of Fame is much more about big games and impact than overall numbers.

And, of course, media love.

I've seen the Namath numbers and they don't impress me at all. Even with some significant number fluffing his best case scenario is that he was above average for couple of seasons.

Bart Starr is in the HoF with 3,000 less yards than Namath...but double the Super Bowl rings.

Link


Bart Starr also threw more TDs than INTs and won 60% of the games he played.
 
2012-11-20 06:10:30 PM
 
2012-11-20 06:31:15 PM

Treygreen13: It's hard to say who is more hilariously overrated - Joe Namath or Tim Tebow. I mean, I think Tebow has him beat on just overall total knob-slobbing, but Namath is in the Hall of Fame with some of the worst QB numbers I've ever seen.

That being said, Namath looks like he had a pretty kick-ass time in the media spotlight, so good for him.


Tebow is more hilariously overrated. While HOF enshrinement is a stretch, Namath put up good numbers for his era, leading the league in yardage a few times and, of course, winning a ring. League-wide, less than 50% of passes were completed and more INTs than TDs were thrown in most of those years. Namath was at least solid. He was a short-peak guy who was great for a few years and then mediocre for several more, and even in his best years he was more INT-prone than you'd like (OTOH, that's what happens when you have the most wide-open passing offense in the NFL), so... well, I guess that makes him the Eli Manning of his era, minus one ring, plus one notable personality? Or the Philip Rivers of his era? Short of being truly HOF-worthy, to be sure. But he did accomplish something as a QB, unlike Tebow.
 
2012-11-20 06:36:28 PM
An anagram of "Broadway Joe Willie Namath" is "I aim and throw a ball; wee joy."
 
2012-11-20 06:39:23 PM
Namath took the Jets and won a Super Bowl. The JETS! Not even Parcells could get the Jets there and Belichek knew better to even try. That alone should be worth the HoF!

/not really
//got to be the worst QB in the Hall, no?
 
2012-11-20 06:42:53 PM

Treygreen13: It's hard to say who is more hilariously overrated - Joe Namath or Tim Tebow. I mean, I think Tebow has him beat on just overall total knob-slobbing, but Namath is in the Hall of Fame with some of the worst QB numbers I've ever seen.


Only one number matters in regards to Namath: III
 
2012-11-20 06:52:42 PM
Treygreen13

Numbers are for absolute losers. There is no doubt Namath is one of the best QB's of his era-just ask his opponents who are in the HALL.

He played in an age when you could borderline rape the WR, DEF ends could headslap the OT with impunity, Off Lineman were only allowed to block with hands INSIDE the shoulders and you had to absolutely destroy the QB late to get a roughing the passer penalty. Dont even attempt to compare stats across eras in the NFL-its not the same game.
In fact, its not the same game today that was played even 15-20 years ago. I shudder to think what Marino would do with the current passing rules. You have average QB's like McNabb racking up 30k in passing yards. From Unitas to Namath to Staubach, Bradshaw-the game in that era reflected the rules of the time.

Keep the stats bullshiat to MLB-where one can compile stats and be considered.
 
2012-11-20 07:02:48 PM

tenton: Namath took the Jets and won a Super Bowl. The JETS! Not even Parcells could get the Jets there and Belichek knew better to even try. That alone should be worth the HoF!

/not really
//got to be the worst QB in the Hall, no?


It isn't that he won a SB. It's because it was (and still is) one of the greatest upsets in sports history.

BTW, Jim Plunkett should be in the HOF.
 
2012-11-20 07:29:44 PM

torr5962: Treygreen13

Numbers are for absolute losers. There is no doubt Namath is one of the best QB's of his era-just ask his opponents who are in the HALL.

He played in an age when you could borderline rape the WR, DEF ends could headslap the OT with impunity, Off Lineman were only allowed to block with hands INSIDE the shoulders and you had to absolutely destroy the QB late to get a roughing the passer penalty. Dont even attempt to compare stats across eras in the NFL-its not the same game.
In fact, its not the same game today that was played even 15-20 years ago. I shudder to think what Marino would do with the current passing rules. You have average QB's like McNabb racking up 30k in passing yards. From Unitas to Namath to Staubach, Bradshaw-the game in that era reflected the rules of the time.

Keep the stats bullshiat to MLB-where one can compile stats and be considered.


You had me until that. 8/10 regardless

Joe Namath was a slightly above average (at best) QB who won a superbowl and was famous for living the famous lifestyle. Shouldn't be in the HOF
 
2012-11-20 07:33:11 PM
Never saw him play, but I like that during the height of his career he was a part owner in a Manhattan bar allegedly frequented by serious underworld types.
 
2012-11-20 08:06:51 PM

John Buck 41: tenton: Namath took the Jets and won a Super Bowl. The JETS! Not even Parcells could get the Jets there and Belichek knew better to even try. That alone should be worth the HoF!

/not really
//got to be the worst QB in the Hall, no?

It isn't that he won a SB. It's because it was (and still is) one of the greatest upsets in sports history.

BTW, Jim Plunkett should be in the HOF.


Shoot, Ken Stabler should be in the HOF. Especially if you're going to put Namath in.
 
2012-11-20 08:10:19 PM

tenton: John Buck 41: tenton: Namath took the Jets and won a Super Bowl. The JETS! Not even Parcells could get the Jets there and Belichek knew better to even try. That alone should be worth the HoF!

/not really
//got to be the worst QB in the Hall, no?

It isn't that he won a SB. It's because it was (and still is) one of the greatest upsets in sports history.

BTW, Jim Plunkett should be in the HOF.

Shoot, Ken Stabler should be in the HOF. Especially if you're going to put Namath in.


Love Stabler, but Plunkett should go in before him. Two SB wins, after the general consensus was that he was washed up?
 
2012-11-20 08:15:26 PM

John Buck 41: tenton: John Buck 41: tenton: Namath took the Jets and won a Super Bowl. The JETS! Not even Parcells could get the Jets there and Belichek knew better to even try. That alone should be worth the HoF!

/not really
//got to be the worst QB in the Hall, no?

It isn't that he won a SB. It's because it was (and still is) one of the greatest upsets in sports history.

BTW, Jim Plunkett should be in the HOF.

Shoot, Ken Stabler should be in the HOF. Especially if you're going to put Namath in.

Love Stabler, but Plunkett should go in before him. Two SB wins, after the general consensus was that he was washed up?


Hear hear!
 
2012-11-20 08:43:58 PM

Treygreen13: It's hard to say who is more hilariously overrated


Bear Bryant: Namath = "the greatest athlete I ever coached"
 
2012-11-20 08:44:28 PM

tenton: Shoot, Ken Stabler should be in the HOF. Especially if you're going to put Namath in.


I've hated the Raiders for 46 years, and I can't argue with you. Ray Guy also. AND Plunkett.

/but fark those guys.
/farkin' Raiders
 
2012-11-20 08:57:06 PM
Namath put the NFL on TV.

In.
 
2012-11-20 09:05:56 PM

Hardy-r-r: deslide


Why not just click the "View Single Page" link on the site?
 
2012-11-20 09:19:42 PM

torr5962: Treygreen13

Numbers are for absolute losers. There is no doubt Namath is one of the best QB's of his era-just ask his opponents who are in the HALL.

He played in an age when you could borderline rape the WR, DEF ends could headslap the OT with impunity, Off Lineman were only allowed to block with hands INSIDE the shoulders and you had to absolutely destroy the QB late to get a roughing the passer penalty. Dont even attempt to compare stats across eras in the NFL-its not the same game.
In fact, its not the same game today that was played even 15-20 years ago. I shudder to think what Marino would do with the current passing rules. You have average QB's like McNabb racking up 30k in passing yards. From Unitas to Namath to Staubach, Bradshaw-the game in that era reflected the rules of the time.

Keep the stats bullshiat to MLB-where one can compile stats and be considered.


Sitting in bleacher seats one sunday I watched as Joe Namath was pounded on every pass play. Just totally pounded. He knew he was gonna get hit and he hung in there. I am not talkin
half step or one step away, 2 or more was common.
It was a great game! He was firing away til time expired.
Does he belong in the HoF? I don't know. But I like that he is in there. He defined an era.

/I would like to see QB's today do a game with retro rules.
 
2012-11-20 10:11:42 PM

Bongo Blue: /I would like to see QB's today do a game with retro rules.


The difference is the defensive players are a hell of a lot bigger nowadays. Back when Joe played, 200 lbs was pretty darn big. Nowadays, your typical lineman is over 300
 
2012-11-20 10:29:50 PM

torr5962: Keep the stats bullshiat to MLB-where one can compile stats and be considered.


If the stats weren't important, nobody would keep them.
 
2012-11-20 11:00:26 PM

machoprogrammer: Bongo Blue: /I would like to see QB's today do a game with retro rules.

The difference is the defensive players are a hell of a lot bigger nowadays. Back when Joe played, 200 lbs was pretty darn big. Nowadays, your typical lineman is over 300


Are you saying linemen back then were 200#? 'Cos if you are, that's just crazy talk.
 
2012-11-20 11:28:05 PM
He's a New York product. Broadway Joe. That ups his importance by a factor of 10
 
2012-11-21 01:07:32 AM

mikaloyd: He's a New York product. Broadway Joe. That ups his importance by a factor of 10


Actually, he's a pedigreed Pennsylvania quarterback. There's something in the water there that makes superior QBs.

10-Ron Powlus
9-George Blanda
8-Rich Gannon
7-Babe Parilli
6-Johnny Lujack
5-Joe Willie Namath
4-Jim Kelly
3-Dan Marino
2-Johnny Unitas
1-Joe Montana

-list from maxpreps.com
 
2012-11-21 01:18:24 AM
Others from Pennsylvania: Gus Frerrotte, Mike McMahon, Willie Thrower, Terry Hanratty, Jeff Hostettler, Mark Bulger, Bruce Gradkowski, Matt Ryan, Matt Schaub. Six of the 23 modern era quarterbacks in the Football Hall of Fame are from The Keystone State.
 
2012-11-21 04:30:52 AM

John Buck 41: machoprogrammer: Bongo Blue: /I would like to see QB's today do a game with retro rules.

The difference is the defensive players are a hell of a lot bigger nowadays. Back when Joe played, 200 lbs was pretty darn big. Nowadays, your typical lineman is over 300

Are you saying linemen back then were 200#? 'Cos if you are, that's just crazy talk.


QB'S are bigger now too. Namath is about the size of Brees.
Besides getting hit by lineman running full speed with their helmet lowered gotta hurt, no matter how big they are.
QB's did'nt have protective vests then either. Took so

me cajones to be a QB then.
 
2012-11-21 04:34:50 AM

keypusher: Anyway, the NFL Hall of Fame is much more about big games and impact than overall numbers


So, the entire NY Jets defense, which won that Super Bowl by themselves by destroying the NFL MVP and his backup for the game (some guy named Unitas), should be in the HOF?

I'm much more willing to accept that than seeing Namath in there.

REGGIE BALL could have been the QB for the Jets that day, and with their defense that day, they could have won.
 
2012-11-21 08:34:04 AM
what the hell is going on in picture 17
 
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