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2012-11-20 07:26:42 PM
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Silly Jesus: [www.strangepolitics.com image 491x363]


We do not "give" unemployment checks... you pay for unemployment insurance out of each and every paycheck. I'm tired of the GOP trying to further the logic that expecting something that you paid for is somehow unreasonable, irrational, or greedy. When I give the cashier at the grocery store my money, I'm entitled to the food in my cart... when I give the government money for insurance, whether SSI, Medicare, or unemployment, you damn well better believe that I'm entitled to what I paid for. I'm tired of you dirtbags trying to give working class people a bad name just because they expect the government to do something useful with their money instead of frittering it away on cronies, defense contractors, and the already rich.
2012-11-20 07:23:14 PM
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Darth_Lukecash: "InnVision/Shelter Network really prides ourselves on running our organization like a business," said Maria Duzon, the organization's marketing director. "We have a service model that works like a science if you have enough staff and focused services. We are committed to using metrics-based, research-based practices to do the best by our donors and clients."

There's your problem. Charities aren't really supposed to run like buisness.


The MBAs have ruined all the good businesses out there, it was only natural for them to go cannibalize a new prey.
2012-11-20 06:09:33 PM
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"InnVision/Shelter Network really prides ourselves on running our organization like a business," said Maria Duzon, the organization's marketing director. "We have a service model that works like a science if you have enough staff and focused services. We are committed to using metrics-based, research-based practices to do the best by our donors and clients."

There's your problem. Charities aren't really supposed to run like buisness.
2012-11-20 03:48:07 PM
2 votes:
I guess the new strategy is the same as the old one: get all the homeless you can off the street and let the rest starve. The goal of ending homelessness is not necessarily compatible with the goal of helping the homeless.
2012-11-21 01:01:28 AM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: [www.strangepolitics.com image 491x363]


I work in a welfare office, and I meet more clients there who believe every word that FOX NEWS puts out then anywhere else in my life.
2012-11-20 07:45:34 PM
1 votes:

red5ish: Zeb Hesselgresser: it can be a little different in some states, but the most popular models are 99% employer funded. The employees contribution to the fund is fairly insignificant. Sorry.

In California, where this story is set, the employer pays 100% into the UI fund. That being said, it's still insurance and doesn't get bought and paid for unless the individual was working/employed. If you buy insurance, or your employer buys insurance for you, is qualifying to use it and then using it somehow a freebee? I don't think so.


Even where it's employer funded (it is here in CO), I can assure you that the math figures into wages when you decide how much you're going to pay a person, especially given the way unemployment payout is structured. Employers do bear some of the cost, but denying there's cost forwarding to the employee just seems beyond the bounds of reason... I can't for the life of me understand how the conservatives understand cost forwarding when it comes to things like cutting wages/hours because of ObamaCare, but they all of a sudden forget how cost forwarding works when it comes to things like unemployment insurance. I see your selectively applied logic, and raise you a pancake astronaut.
2012-11-20 07:39:37 PM
1 votes:

Zeb Hesselgresser: muck4doo: firefly212: Silly Jesus: [www.strangepolitics.com image 491x363]

We do not "give" unemployment checks... you pay for unemployment insurance out of each and every paycheck. I'm tired of the GOP trying to further the logic that expecting something that you paid for is somehow unreasonable, irrational, or greedy. When I give the cashier at the grocery store my money, I'm entitled to the food in my cart... when I give the government money for insurance, whether SSI, Medicare, or unemployment, you damn well better believe that I'm entitled to what I paid for. I'm tired of you dirtbags trying to give working class people a bad name just because they expect the government to do something useful with their money instead of frittering it away on cronies, defense contractors, and the already rich.

I'm Conservative, and will agree. Unemployment insurance, is just that, insurance. You don't get to collect on it if you never paid in.

it can be a little different in some states, but the most popular models are 99% employer funded. The employees contribution to the fund is fairly insignificant. Sorry.


If you don't think there's cost-forwarding with wages, I've got a bridge to sell you.
2012-11-20 07:38:34 PM
1 votes:

Zeb Hesselgresser: muck4doo: firefly212: Silly Jesus: [www.strangepolitics.com image 491x363]

We do not "give" unemployment checks... you pay for unemployment insurance out of each and every paycheck. I'm tired of the GOP trying to further the logic that expecting something that you paid for is somehow unreasonable, irrational, or greedy. When I give the cashier at the grocery store my money, I'm entitled to the food in my cart... when I give the government money for insurance, whether SSI, Medicare, or unemployment, you damn well better believe that I'm entitled to what I paid for. I'm tired of you dirtbags trying to give working class people a bad name just because they expect the government to do something useful with their money instead of frittering it away on cronies, defense contractors, and the already rich.

I'm Conservative, and will agree. Unemployment insurance, is just that, insurance. You don't get to collect on it if you never paid in.

it can be a little different in some states, but the most popular models are 99% employer funded. The employees contribution to the fund is fairly insignificant. Sorry.


It doesn't change the point that you can't collect unless you've paid into it. Whether you paid most of it, or your employer, you don't get to collect if you haven't been working and contributing.
2012-11-20 07:30:50 PM
1 votes:

firefly212: Silly Jesus: [www.strangepolitics.com image 491x363]

We do not "give" unemployment checks... you pay for unemployment insurance out of each and every paycheck. I'm tired of the GOP trying to further the logic that expecting something that you paid for is somehow unreasonable, irrational, or greedy. When I give the cashier at the grocery store my money, I'm entitled to the food in my cart... when I give the government money for insurance, whether SSI, Medicare, or unemployment, you damn well better believe that I'm entitled to what I paid for. I'm tired of you dirtbags trying to give working class people a bad name just because they expect the government to do something useful with their money instead of frittering it away on cronies, defense contractors, and the already rich.


I'm Conservative, and will agree. Unemployment insurance, is just that, insurance. You don't get to collect on it if you never paid in.
2012-11-20 07:10:31 PM
1 votes:
www.strangepolitics.com
2012-11-20 07:04:30 PM
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So a better equipped organization who's vision is to teach the man to fish rather then continuously hand him a fish wants to move in. I'm okay with that.
 
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