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(TMZ)   Second person to sue Kevin Clash says he "did not become aware that he had $uffered adver$e p$ychological and emotional effect$ from Kevin Clash'$ $exual act$ and conduct until 2012"   (tmz.com) divider line 87
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2012-11-20 04:45:54 PM  
You're making an accusation like this, and THIS is the best picture you can find to release to the media?

ll-media.tmz.com

Among the allegations, Singleton claims, "[Clash] trolled gay telephone chat line rooms to meet and have sex with underage boys."

In the lawsuit, filed in federal court in NYC, Singleton claims Clash "groomed [the accuser] to gain his trust by, among other things, taking him to nice dinners and giving him money."


And what was your client doing on the gay sex lines to start with?
 
2012-11-20 04:49:36 PM  
And yet another plaintiff comes forward...
blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com

This one claims that Clash put his hand up the plaintiff's ass on a regular basis for several years, and has photographic evidence to back up his claim:
graphics8.nytimes.com

Sick.
Sick, sick, sick.
 
2012-11-20 04:50:26 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: And what was your client doing on the gay sex lines to start with?


Does it matter? If he was underage and Clash had sex with him, then his actions are irrelevant.
 
2012-11-20 04:51:54 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: And what was your client doing on the gay sex lines to start with?


Chatting about gay sex?
 
2012-11-20 04:52:42 PM  
Don't trust no biatches.
Don't trust no twinks.

Learn, people.
 
2012-11-20 04:53:58 PM  

Theaetetus: Satanic_Hamster: And what was your client doing on the gay sex lines to start with?

Does it matter? If he was underage and Clash had sex with him, then his actions are irrelevant.


In a moral sense, yes of course it does. According to the law, no.
 
2012-11-20 04:56:10 PM  

FraggleStickCar: Theaetetus: Satanic_Hamster: And what was your client doing on the gay sex lines to start with?

Does it matter? If he was underage and Clash had sex with him, then his actions are irrelevant.

In a moral sense, yes of course it does. According to the law, no.


Regarding the law, yes. For the moral sense, really? There's something that a kid could do that would change whether an old man farking them is morally right or wrong?
 
2012-11-20 04:57:25 PM  
Peewee Herman 2.0.

/my childhood was ruined
 
2012-11-20 04:58:22 PM  
god, I'm glad my kid is too young to be a aware of any of this crap that's going down. all he cares about is being able to watch Elmo on the TV once a day.
 
2012-11-20 05:00:48 PM  
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

My choice to replace Clash. Has voice work experience 
 
ecl
2012-11-20 05:02:00 PM  

WienerButt: Peewee Herman 2.0.

/my childhood was ruined


How is this anything like the Peewee adult theatre adventure?
 
2012-11-20 05:02:23 PM  

hbk72777: My choice to replace Clash. Has voice work experience


"Mommy, why does Elmo sound like his nuts got caught in a vise?"
 
2012-11-20 05:02:47 PM  
I love Fark :Jerry Sandusky -- "String him up!"
Kevin Clash -- "Leave Elmo alone!"
 
2012-11-20 05:06:37 PM  

Delawheredad: I love Fark :Jerry Sandusky -- "String him up!"
Kevin Clash -- "Leave Elmo alone!"


Sandusky: 10 year olds trapped in basements
Clash: of-age hustlers* acting like typical females when the money gets cut off

*not that I don't strongly suspect that if you're a hustler, you were sexually abused
when very young by older persons
 
2012-11-20 05:07:30 PM  
Had no idea who Kevin Clash was. I figured he was a singer or something.

Also, voicing Elmo for 20 years, how much does THAT pay?
 
2012-11-20 05:07:56 PM  

Delawheredad: I love Fark :Jerry Sandusky -- "String him up!"
Kevin Clash -- "Leave Elmo alone!"


Has there been actual evidence against Clash like sandusky or is it just the accused word that the consensual sex they had started before he was 18?
 
2012-11-20 05:07:58 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Had no idea who Kevin Clash was. I figured he was a singer or something.

Also, voicing Elmo for 20 years, how much does THAT pay?


A lot of money.
 
2012-11-20 05:08:53 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Had no idea who Kevin Clash was. I figured he was a singer or something.

Also, voicing Elmo for 20 years, how much does THAT pay?


If the Being Elmo documentary is any indication a ton.
 
2012-11-20 05:09:03 PM  

WienerButt: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Had no idea who Kevin Clash was. I figured he was a singer or something.

Also, voicing Elmo for 20 years, how much does THAT pay?

A lot of money.


An assload, as it were...
 
2012-11-20 05:15:23 PM  
if it's that easy get money from Kevin Clash, then Elmo touched me inappropriately too...
 
2012-11-20 05:19:29 PM  
At best, assuming that the youths in question wanted Clash to do to them what he does to his muppet, it is STILL Statutory rape. Jail bait is jail bait regardless of the gender.
 
2012-11-20 05:20:21 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: You're making an accusation like this, and THIS is the best picture you can find to release to the media?

[ll-media.tmz.com image 550x360]

Among the allegations, Singleton claims, "[Clash] trolled gay telephone chat line rooms to meet and have sex with underage boys."

In the lawsuit, filed in federal court in NYC, Singleton claims Clash "groomed [the accuser] to gain his trust by, among other things, taking him to nice dinners and giving him money."


And what was your client doing on the gay sex lines to start with?


Obviously shopping for nice dinners and money from older well off black dudes.

He's just pissed Clash wouldn't take him to a father-daughter dance.
 
2012-11-20 05:21:34 PM  

LonMead: And yet another plaintiff comes forward...
[blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com image 272x181]

This one claims that Clash put his hand up the plaintiff's ass on a regular basis for several years, and has photographic evidence to back up his claim:
[graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x366]

Sick.
Sick, sick, sick.


Elmo has a history of hanging out with guys who hit on young men.

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-11-20 05:23:36 PM  

Delawheredad: I love Fark :Jerry Sandusky -- "String him up!"
Kevin Clash -- "Leave Elmo alone!"


One! One false equivalency! Ah-hahaha!
 
2012-11-20 05:24:07 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: You're making an accusation like this, and THIS is the best picture you can find to release to the media?

[ll-media.tmz.com image 550x360]

Among the allegations, Singleton claims, "[Clash] trolled gay telephone chat line rooms to meet and have sex with underage boys."

In the lawsuit, filed in federal court in NYC, Singleton claims Clash "groomed [the accuser] to gain his trust by, among other things, taking him to nice dinners and giving him money."


And what was your client doing on the gay sex lines to start with?


You're defending rape and blaming the victim.
 
2012-11-20 05:25:07 PM  
Kevin is a hell of a lot more than 'the voice' of Elmo.
 
2012-11-20 05:28:38 PM  

Delawheredad: At best, assuming that the youths in question wanted Clash to do to them what he does to his muppet, it is STILL Statutory rape. Jail bait is jail bait regardless of the gender.


Even if he didn't have sex with the guy when he was under 18 (which I believe is NYs age of consent) it still showed extraordinary bad judgement from a guy who voices a muppet who is beloved by millions of children.

/and its not like there aren't thousands of hot 25 year old models in NYC who need the money
//not like I would know
 
2012-11-20 05:29:26 PM  

T.M.S.: Kevin is a hell of a lot more than 'the voice' of Elmo.


Not as of today.
 
2012-11-20 05:31:30 PM  

WienerButt: Peewee Herman 2.0.

/my childhood was ruined


I remember when that happened. Bad personal decision on his part, but I sometimes wonder if he would've suffered the same career death if he did that today (meaning, of course, that his show continued and such). Just idle thought, but I do sometimes think that PeeWee got an unfair shake.

/oh god I wasn't trying to be punny
 
Boe
2012-11-20 05:32:26 PM  

gingerjet: LonMead: And yet another plaintiff comes forward...
[blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com image 272x181]

This one claims that Clash put his hand up the plaintiff's ass on a regular basis for several years, and has photographic evidence to back up his claim:
[graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x366]

Sick.
Sick, sick, sick.

Elmo has a history of hanging out with guys who hit on young men.

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 300x319]


omg I forgot about him. He sort of slinked off into the shadows, didn't he.
 
2012-11-20 05:37:33 PM  
Just like the very rich actors who get caught with five dollar crack whores what is a guy with the kind of cash Clash was bringing down doing on a gay sex pick up line where you have no idea of the age of the dude you are talking to?

Its just like the internet. Don't sex chat folks if you even suspect that they may be under age. Why do not more people know this?

At the very least he is guilty of very poor judgement who makes his employer look foolish or negligent.
 
2012-11-20 05:38:24 PM  

Boe: gingerjet: LonMead: And yet another plaintiff comes forward...
[blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com image 272x181]

This one claims that Clash put his hand up the plaintiff's ass on a regular basis for several years, and has photographic evidence to back up his claim:
[graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x366]

Sick.
Sick, sick, sick.

Elmo has a history of hanging out with guys who hit on young men.

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 300x319]

omg I forgot about him. He sort of slinked off into the shadows, didn't he.


Sort of-- he died in 2004.
 
2012-11-20 05:39:35 PM  

Delawheredad: Just like the very rich actors who get caught with five dollar crack whores what is a guy with the kind of cash Clash was bringing down doing on a gay sex pick up line where you have no idea of the age of the dude you are talking to?

Its just like the internet. Don't sex chat folks if you even suspect that they may be under age. Why do not more people know this?

At the very least he is guilty of very poor judgement who makes his employer look foolish or negligent.


You're assuming he wasn't targeting them because they were underage.
 
2012-11-20 05:42:58 PM  

Anastacya: WienerButt: Peewee Herman 2.0.

/my childhood was ruined

I remember when that happened. Bad personal decision on his part, but I sometimes wonder if he would've suffered the same career death if he did that today (meaning, of course, that his show continued and such). Just idle thought, but I do sometimes think that PeeWee got an unfair shake.

/oh god I wasn't trying to be punny


Pfff, anyone could see that coming (ew). All of the other human characters on that show were busty women in tight dresses.

On a semi-related note, here's the Pee Wee interpretation of Goatse:
media.avclub.com
 
2012-11-20 05:45:48 PM  
Wise_Guy

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt in my example. Clash may in fact have been trolling for kiddies we don't know enough of the particulars at this point.
 
2012-11-20 05:56:36 PM  
A lot of you would be very disappointed if you knew what actually went on in the private lives of your friends, family, co-workers, etc.


/this is extortion.
 
2012-11-20 05:58:15 PM  

gingerjet: Even if he didn't have sex with the guy when he was under 18 (which I believe is NYs age of consent)


New York is 17, not 18.
 
2012-11-20 05:58:46 PM  

vabeard: A lot of you would be very disappointed if you knew what actually went on in the private lives of your friends, family, co-workers, etc.


/this is extortion.


It's hard to be extorted if you didn't do anything wrong
 
2012-11-20 06:02:57 PM  
vabeard

"A lot of you would be very disappointed if you knew what actually went on in the private lives of your friends, family, co-workers, etc.


/this is extortion."

Funny Jerry Sandusky claimed HE was the victim of an extortion conspiracy as well.
 
2012-11-20 06:03:39 PM  
Day late and a dollar short. Clash has already been ruined, so he has no reason to pay out hush money, which is the only way this would have worked. Unless there is something concrete, like a video recording, there is no meaningful evidence that Elmo molested this kid that would result in a judgement.

Street hustler I am guessing, just looking for a payday.
 
2012-11-20 06:12:05 PM  

Delawheredad: vabeard

"A lot of you would be very disappointed if you knew what actually went on in the private lives of your friends, family, co-workers, etc.


/this is extortion."

Funny Jerry Sandusky claimed HE was the victim of an extortion conspiracy as well.


So far, nothing points to anyone being raped in this case.
/Sandusky, however...
 
2012-11-20 06:13:47 PM  
Pull the string and I'll wink at you,
I'm your puppet
I'll do funny things if you want me to,
I'm your puppet
I'm yours to have and to hold
Darling, you've got full control
of your puppet

Pull them little strings and I'll kiss your lips,
I'm your puppet
Snap your fingers and I'll turn you some flips,
I'm your puppet
Your every wish is my command
All you got to do is wiggle your little hand
I'm your puppet...
 
2012-11-20 06:16:52 PM  
Vabeard

Even if the guys in question wanted "it" IF in fact they were underage ITS STATUTORY RAPE!
 
2012-11-20 06:23:58 PM  

Delawheredad: Vabeard

Even if the guys in question wanted "it" IF in fact they were underage ITS STATUTORY RAPE!


Have there been any charges placed against Clash? Or just requests for pay outs.
 
2012-11-20 06:32:51 PM  
I have sympathy for victims of child or teenage sexual abuse. I do. However, these particular victims could at least try to be more...believable in that their motivations are spurred on by injury and not by anger, jealousy, or the fat wad of cash the other kid is getting. Dude should know not to get involved with teenagers though, aside from the it being illegal bit. There are fewer angry, mean, vindictive, jealous, cruel creatures in nature than teenagers. I've seen (professionally, not by experience) that breaking off a relationship with a teenager or the just recently not a teenager any more is a very, very dangerous prospect. Better let it ride until the kid is 25-30 if you care about your assets.

Not that you should be boinking teenagers at all, ever, of course. Even if they are older, of technically legal consent age for your state, and really, really want to be boinked.
 
2012-11-20 06:34:24 PM  
Also, voicing Elmo for 20 years, how much does THAT pay?

A few million a year.
 
2012-11-20 06:40:35 PM  
If you're a full grown adult with a career and a public profile, you might want to avoid doing things like trolling the internets for 15-year-old sex partners.

I mean, it's probably a good idea in general, but particularly so with the public profile -- and especially if your career involves doing anything related to children.

//allegedly
 
2012-11-20 06:47:09 PM  
ATTENTION PLEASE! IF YOU HAVE EVER HAD SEX WITH KEVIN CLASH, PLEASE LINE UP FOR THE LAWSUITS.
 
2012-11-20 06:55:39 PM  

Theaetetus: Anastacya: WienerButt: Peewee Herman 2.0.

/my childhood was ruined

I remember when that happened. Bad personal decision on his part, but I sometimes wonder if he would've suffered the same career death if he did that today (meaning, of course, that his show continued and such). Just idle thought, but I do sometimes think that PeeWee got an unfair shake.

/oh god I wasn't trying to be punny

Pfff, anyone could see that coming (ew). All of the other human characters on that show were busty women in tight dresses.

On a semi-related note, here's the Pee Wee interpretation of Goatse:
media.avclub.com


Is it weird that I'm trying to discern whether his looking into or out of the stretched sphincter?
 
2012-11-20 07:00:21 PM  

RatMaster999: Is it weird that I'm trying to discern whether his looking into or out of the stretched sphincter?


Is it weird that I automatically assumed out?
 
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