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(Some Guy)   The reason that Karl Rove thought that Romney was a shoe-in? Because Anonymous had kicked ORCA's ass with said shoe   (dailynewsfinder.com) divider line 82
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2012-11-20 04:34:40 PM

Wyalt Derp: FlashHarry: i love that the romney team called it orca in response to obama's narwhal software. "see, an orca can kill a narwhal! hurr hurr!" well, it killed sweet fark all this time, pal.

Somebody pointed out in another thread that it's an anagram of ACORN without the N(-word).


whoa.png
 
2012-11-20 04:37:47 PM

Marcus Aurelius: phaseolus: Marcus Aurelius: Access database


Are you kidding??

No, many voting machines tally to an Access database.


Well, to be totally fair, it's not Access per se, but a Jet engine DB. And that's not necessarily a bad thing; Jet is out of date but it's lighter weight than MSDE or other desktop DB engines, and it has the advantage of not needing a separate database service or process to work with.

An Access/Jet DB is really just a file format. I'm far less worried about that than the generally closed nature of these systems. I wouldn't feel any better or worse about it if they were writing to an XML file or a text document.
 
2012-11-20 04:43:03 PM
It's fun to think about winning the lottery too, but thats more likely to happen than this!
 
2012-11-20 04:43:52 PM

Tamater: YodaBlues: Pants full of macaroni!!: FlashHarry: shoo-in, not shoe-in.

/sorry, pet peeve...

Same difference, for all intensive porpoises.

It's kind of a mute point, now isn't it.

/FTFY


Irregardless
 
2012-11-20 04:46:35 PM

Heraclitus: It's fun to think about winning the lottery too, but thats more likely to happen than this!


That's not what's important. The important thing is we need to make sure the Freepers latch onto this.

Btw does anyone know if the Freepers have caught onto this yet? They can always use another boogeyman.
 
2012-11-20 04:48:20 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Smokescreen. Double bluff. An old XK Red 47 technique.

Rove planted the Anonymous story. He knows it will never be proven, or even investigated too much, but he can sell it to some of his donors and maybe not end up in cement shoes for squandering so many millions of their money.


Triple buff, Anonymous only gained access to ORCA because Rove is Moot and used the "hack" to provide a cover for his Producers-esque money grabbing scheme. He has been playing both sides against each other and walking away with all the Loose Change that shakes out during the dust up.

lh6.ggpht.com

/The hat alone is in no way enough for this level of conspiracy.
//hot
 
2012-11-20 04:49:13 PM
Wasn't ORCA basically a CRM solution? Completely separate from the election servers? That's like claiming you hacked the Pentagon because you threw big rocks in the Mississippi river.
 
2012-11-20 04:49:50 PM
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

ORCA wasn't hacked, and even if it was it couldn't have cost Romney the election as merely a day-of-voting reporting tool in an attempt to redirect GOTV efforts in under-performing districts. Its just another thing that in typical fashion the Romney campaign managed to screw up.
 
2012-11-20 04:53:08 PM

Wyalt Derp: Somebody pointed out in another thread that it's an anagram of ACORN without the N(-word).




/it all... makes sense now
 
2012-11-20 04:54:01 PM

vpb: It sounds dubious to me too. Are they saying that this ORCA had hacked into all the voting machines and could change the votes? So if they compromised Rove's system, wouldn't that imply that THEY could have changed the vote count?

This sounds like something from the latest bond movie, not like something real.


That, OR a man-in-the-middle attack, which might just be conceivable with some pretty skilled people on your side. Have all the voting machines redirect through your ORCA server first before the info goes to wherever it goes (i'm assuming they send the electronic vote info over the internet).

I'm not saying this is what happened, i doubt the people Rmoney and Rover had working for them could pull this off without being caught in the act, i'm just saying it's a possibility, especially with that last-minute uncertified "software patch" to the voting machines. Remember that whole fake-DNS server thing the FBI was crowing about every month or so a few months back?
 
2012-11-20 04:55:07 PM
This is one of those cases where I tend to go by the phrase "never ascribe to conspiracy what could more readily be explained by stupidity".

Karl Rove thought Romney was going to win because he had become so used to telling people that, mainly rich people to separate them from their money, that he started to believe it himself. His surprise at Obama's win in Ohio wasn't because his evil conspiracy failed, but because he became so wrapped up in his own narrative that he forgot that it wasn't necessarily going to correspond with reality.

Besides, trying to steal the election from a sitting President is probably one of the most idiotically risky things you can do in this country. Obama is kind of a powerful man, and if he found out that his reelection was stolen, there are plenty of things he could do to make Karl Rove's life a living hell. If the evidence was strong enough, then Obama would likely have grounds for charging Rove and his co-conspirators with treason, which at the very least will have them locked up for the rest of their lives. If the evidence was, for whatever reason, inadmissible then there are plenty of questionable legal solutions he could try instead, like blackmail.
 
2012-11-20 04:56:14 PM

Wyalt Derp: Somebody pointed out in another thread that it's an anagram of ACORN without the N(-word).


i48.photobucket.com

crap, fark'd my previous link
 
2012-11-20 04:56:28 PM

FlashHarry: i love that the romney team called it orca in response to obama's narwhal software. "see, an orca can kill a narwhal! hurr hurr!" well, it killed sweet fark all this time, pal.


I thought Reddit is the narwhal.

rlv.zcache.com

Then who was bacon?

/midnight. Midnight.
 
2012-11-20 05:00:34 PM

Wyalt Derp: Somebody pointed out in another thread that it's an anagram of ACORN without the N(-word).


www.cincycava.org
 
2012-11-20 05:04:08 PM
So, whether or not this is true or not, there is a big implecation here. If Rove, the administrator of 2 pro Romney superPACs, had anything to do with ORCA, and ORCA was used by the Romney campaign would that be construed as illeagal coordinidation between the two parties?
 
2012-11-20 05:06:52 PM
Oldish news. Also, whoever writes the press releases/letters for Anonymous needs to lay off the metaphors. They're trying to sound like the title character in "V for Vendetta" but come off sounding like a schizoid. That said, good on them if this stuff is true.
 
2012-11-20 05:12:31 PM
I believe that if Turd Blossom could do it he would do it. I'm not sure he could though.
 
2012-11-20 05:12:59 PM

impaler: The only thing Anonymous is doing is trolling Republicans for the lulz.


The bears. They are repeating.
 
2012-11-20 05:16:59 PM
Old story reeks of bullshiat.
 
2012-11-20 05:19:55 PM
I got a chuckle out of this:
i232.photobucket.com 

I want my free tire installation. You hear me, Anonymous!?
 
2012-11-20 05:25:47 PM
Yeah, none of this story makes sense.

Karl Rove wasn't/couldn't be part of ORCA because it was part of the Romney campaign. Even if he had some subtle hand in it there had to be someone running the actual operation out in the open and it wasn't Rove.

ORCA was basically just a website the Romney supporters could access from their smartphones for strike lists. If they were hacking the election machines why would they even need remote capabilities? Are the voting machines even internet capable? Why not just implant some code on the machines and let them run?

ORCA was a crappy piece of outsourced software done on the cheap. If you were going to do something as risky as steal an election why would you outsource it and never stress test it?
 
2012-11-20 05:26:11 PM

FlashHarry: shoo-in, not shoe-in.

/sorry, pet peeve...


Thank you. Peeve of mine as well. Came here only to say that.
 
2012-11-20 05:29:43 PM
It would make a cool movie or something if true, but until they give us some proof, I'm afraid I'll have to stay just a little skeptical.
 
2012-11-20 05:30:21 PM
Unless it involves DDoSing a website, we can be pretty certain Anonymous was not responsible.
 
2012-11-20 05:34:41 PM

Cinaed: Karl Rove a douchebag, an asshole, a dipshiat, a ham.... yes.

A master criminal intent on

CAPABLE OF 'stealing' an election? No.

FTFACCURACY
 
2012-11-20 05:34:54 PM

what_now: All ORCA was designed to do was to remind Romney voters to vote, and it turned out there simply weren't enough of them to matter even IF ORCA wasn't such a huge fail.


Ah, maybe it failed because people like me put Crossroad GPS on call blocking.

My wife is registered GOP. She got a lot of mail.

Not that she wanted to be. They just faked a registration party change on the back of a partition.

Not that she'd vote for them anyway.

But I do blame her for all the crap begging letters/calls we got.

/she asked me to block them. Me, I just let the phone lay on the table until they hung up, tying up their robo-dialer so they couldn't bother a new person as soon, but then I'm not home much of the day
//funny how the one ad addressed to her came on glossy paper, while the same one addressed to 'resident' came on cheap paper. Same ad. I guess Carl was more worried about her opinion.
 
2012-11-20 05:37:32 PM
I don't care if it's true. It made me laugh till I damn near peed.
 
2012-11-20 05:43:23 PM
A more satisfying conspiracy theory is Rove paid an exorbitant sum of money to what he thought were operatives capable of delivering Ohio electronically. For added fun, make those operatives Anonymous.
 
2012-11-20 05:45:22 PM

CorporatePerson: Heraclitus: It's fun to think about winning the lottery too, but thats more likely to happen than this!

That's not what's important. The important thing is we need to make sure the Freepers latch onto this.

Btw does anyone know if the Freepers have caught onto this yet? They can always use another boogeyman.


Nope, theyre still crying because Benghazi isnt happening. Maybe we could give this a little nudge into the mainstream and get them off that broken record.

/ Epic LULZ either way...
 
2012-11-20 05:46:08 PM

Wyalt Derp: FlashHarry: i love that the romney team called it orca in response to obama's narwhal software. "see, an orca can kill a narwhal! hurr hurr!" well, it killed sweet fark all this time, pal.

Somebody pointed out in another thread that it's an anagram of ACORN without the N(-word).


Holy crap, whoever that was, KUDOS.

/got a good laugh from the SO too
 
2012-11-20 05:49:50 PM

odinsposse: Yeah, none of this story makes sense.

Karl Rove wasn't/couldn't be part of ORCA because it was part of the Romney campaign. Even if he had some subtle hand in it there had to be someone running the actual operation out in the open and it wasn't Rove.

ORCA was basically just a website the Romney supporters could access from their smartphones for strike lists. If they were hacking the election machines why would they even need remote capabilities? Are the voting machines even internet capable? Why not just implant some code on the machines and let them run?

ORCA was a crappy piece of outsourced software done on the cheap. If you were going to do something as risky as steal an election why would you outsource it and never stress test it?


Cause they were worried about 

www.steady130.com

/still stupid? hell yes.
//the "oh we won the primaries late blah blah blah" excuse is exactly that
 
2012-11-20 05:58:47 PM
i48.photobucket.com
 
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