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(ESPN)   The Bears are who we thought they were, the Colts may want to reconsider playoffs, and the Jets play to win the game. This is your OFFICIAL Week 12 Power Rankings Thread   (espn.go.com) divider line 197
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2012-11-20 12:19:41 PM  
BRONCOS HOLDING THE 7 SPOT! :D

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2012-11-20 12:24:03 PM  

Captain Steroid: BRONCOS HOLDING THE 7 SPOT! :D

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Peyton is magic.
 
2012-11-20 12:26:40 PM  
Their blowout loss to the Patriots showed how out of place the Colts look in the playoff picture. (Clayton)

Except that they would get the 6th seed if the playoffs started today, and they have a cake remaining schedule with the exception of Houston.
 
2012-11-20 12:36:50 PM  
The 8-2 Ravens are ranked below two 7-win teams, and I don't have a problem with this.
 
2012-11-20 12:47:49 PM  
Their blowout loss to the Patriots showed how out of place the Colts look in the playoff picture.

Actually, it just shows how bad the AFC is this year.
 
2012-11-20 01:01:46 PM  

GAT_00: Their blowout loss to the Patriots showed how out of place the Colts look in the playoff picture.

Actually, it just shows how bad the AFC is this year.


The AFC has 6 teams with winning records, the NFC has 8, but you have to do an adjustment for the fact that the AFC has the Browns, the Jags, the Chiefs, and the Raiders and another adjustment for the fact that the Vikings and the Buccaneers have winning records, which no one would have predicted.

The perception is in the 7-12 area of the rankings. People seem to think that the

Bengals
Chargers
Titans
Jets
Bills
Dolphins

are worse than the

Buccaneers
Vikings
Saints
Cowboys
Redskins
Lions

I say it's a toss up.
 
2012-11-20 01:09:53 PM  

roc6783: GAT_00: Their blowout loss to the Patriots showed how out of place the Colts look in the playoff picture.

Actually, it just shows how bad the AFC is this year.

The AFC has 6 teams with winning records, the NFC has 8, but you have to do an adjustment for the fact that the AFC has the Browns, the Jags, the Chiefs, and the Raiders and another adjustment for the fact that the Vikings and the Buccaneers have winning records, which no one would have predicted.

The perception is in the 7-12 area of the rankings. People seem to think that the

Bengals
Chargers
Titans
Jets
Bills
Dolphins

are worse than the

Buccaneers
Vikings
Saints
Cowboys
Redskins
Lions

I say it's a toss up.


Eh, I'm a Titans fan, and honestly I think the NFC is better than us this year.
 
2012-11-20 01:24:42 PM  

GAT_00: roc6783: GAT_00: ***snip***

Eh, I'm a Titans fan, and honestly I think the NFC is better than us this year.


1 through 16, sure the NFC is better, but not overwhelmingly. But who in the NFC couldn't the Texans, Ravens, Patriots, and Broncos match up with? I know the 49ers could match up with anyone, but I have real doubts about the Packers (kill me with fire), the Falcons, the Bears (even with Cutler healthy), and the Giants.

At the bottom, I think the NFC 13-16:

Cards
Rams
Eagles
Panthers

is much better than the AFC 13-16:

Raiders
Browns
Jags
Chefs

but is that really enough to say that the NFC is way, totally, without doubt, better? Not for me.
 
2012-11-20 02:01:05 PM  

kronicfeld: Their blowout loss to the Patriots showed how out of place the Colts look in the playoff picture. (Clayton)

Except that they would get the 6th seed if the playoffs started today, and they have a cake remaining schedule with the exception of Houston.


I don't think they are saying the Colts won't make the playoffs just that they won't last long. I for one am quite impressed with this season compared to last. Luck is just not ready for NFL playoff football.
 
2012-11-20 02:04:28 PM  

roc6783: 1 through 16, sure the NFC is better, but not overwhelmingly.


Let's look at it this way: 1 vs 1 matchups, and on playoff standings, not subjective power rankings.

Atlanta vs. Houston
SF
vs. Baltimore
GB vs. New England
NY Giants vs. Denver
Chicago
vs. Indianapolis
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay vs. Cincinnati
Minnesota
vs. San Diego
New Orleans vs. Tennessee
Dallas vs. NY Jets
Washington vs. Buffalo
Detroit vs. Miami
Arizona vs. Oakland
St. Louis
vs. Cleveland
Philadelphia vs. Jacksonville
Carolina vs. Kansas City

My winners are bolded.
 
2012-11-20 02:13:00 PM  

GAT_00: roc6783: 1 through 16, sure the NFC is better, but not overwhelmingly.

Let's look at it this way: 1 vs 1 matchups, and on playoff standings, not subjective power rankings.

Atlanta vs. Houston
SF vs. Baltimore
GB vs. New England
NY Giants vs. Denver
Chicago vs. Indianapolis
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay vs. Cincinnati
Minnesota vs. San Diego
New Orleans vs. Tennessee
Dallas vs. NY Jets
Washington vs. Buffalo
Detroit vs. Miami
Arizona vs. Oakland
St. Louis vs. Cleveland
Philadelphia vs. Jacksonville
Carolina vs. Kansas City

My winners are bolded.


Your picks just reinforce my point that the bottom half of the NFC is better than the bottom half of the AFC, but the playoff caliber teams are pretty equal. Yes, the NFC is better, but not where it matters.

//Also, it kills me that I have no way to argue against GB losing to NE.
 
2012-11-20 02:27:47 PM  

GAT_00: roc6783: 1 through 16, sure the NFC is better, but not overwhelmingly.

Let's look at it this way: 1 vs 1 matchups, and on playoff standings, not subjective power rankings.

Atlanta vs. Houston
SF vs. Baltimore
GB vs. New England
NY Giants vs. Denver
Chicago vs. Indianapolis
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay vs. Cincinnati
Minnesota vs. San Diego
New Orleans vs. Tennessee
Dallas vs. NY Jets
Washington vs. Buffalo
Detroit vs. Miami
Arizona vs. Oakland
St. Louis vs. Cleveland
Philadelphia vs. Jacksonville
Carolina vs. Kansas City

My winners are bolded.


I think your winners are pretty well thought out and accurate, except that I seriously doubt the Raiders would be likely beat the Cards right now (or any other NFC team, for that matter). And I have some doubts about picking the unpredictable Bengals over the unpredictable Bucs, but certainly could see that one going either way. Otherwise, I think your picks are pretty solid.
 
2012-11-20 02:29:58 PM  

roc6783: Your picks just reinforce my point that the bottom half of the NFC is better than the bottom half of the AFC, but the playoff caliber teams are pretty equal. Yes, the NFC is better, but not where it matters.

//Also, it kills me that I have no way to argue against GB losing to NE.


I don't think any of those top AFC teams are better than their counterparts from the NFC. I think Atlanta and Houston are even. I'd take GB over NE. And in the playoffs, I'd take the Giants over Denver. I'm not going to crown those AFC teams for an OT win against the Jags where Chad Henne sliced and diced their defense, a win over a rookie QB on the road, and beating a team that's given up on its coach and its season.
 
2012-11-20 02:39:17 PM  

IAmRight: roc6783: ***snip***
I don't think any of those top AFC teams are better than their counterparts from the NFC. I think Atlanta and Houston are even. I'd take GB over NE. And in the playoffs, I'd take the Giants over Denver. I'm not going to crown those AFC teams for an OT win against the Jags where Chad Henne sliced and diced their defense, a win over a rookie QB on the road, and beating a team that's given up on its coach and its season.


Nor do I, which is why I said equal.

Watching GB, they are so up and down with one of the worst O-Lines in the league, and with the defense SO banged up, I think they CAN beat anyone, but I still think any team (outside of the bottom 4 in each conference) could win against them.

The Bears are a mess, and i love it.
 
2012-11-20 02:41:48 PM  

Cyberluddite: GAT_00: roc6783: 1 through 16, sure the NFC is better, but not overwhelmingly.

Let's look at it this way: 1 vs 1 matchups, and on playoff standings, not subjective power rankings.

Atlanta vs. Houston
SF vs. Baltimore
GB vs. New England
NY Giants vs. Denver
Chicago vs. Indianapolis
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay vs. Cincinnati
Minnesota vs. San Diego
New Orleans vs. Tennessee
Dallas vs. NY Jets
Washington vs. Buffalo
Detroit vs. Miami
Arizona vs. Oakland
St. Louis vs. Cleveland
Philadelphia vs. Jacksonville
Carolina vs. Kansas City

My winners are bolded.

I think your winners are pretty well thought out and accurate, except that I seriously doubt the Raiders would be likely beat the Cards right now (or any other NFC team, for that matter). And I have some doubts about picking the unpredictable Bengals over the unpredictable Bucs, but certainly could see that one going either way. Otherwise, I think your picks are pretty solid.


There were a couple that are honestly tossups. Chicago is graded with Cutler out by the way. I consider that one a tossup with Cutler. Arizona v. Oakland is too, as is Detroit v. Miami.

But to roc sorry can't multi quote on phone, I think the caliber of the conference as a whole matters when discussing one versus the other. And while the playoffs are split, it's pretty much straight NFC below that, and I think SF is the most likely champion over Houston.
 
2012-11-20 02:42:52 PM  
We're a top 15 team, w00t!
 
2012-11-20 02:45:25 PM  
How, exactly, do they justify spending the entire introduction fellating the Broncos while keeping them at 7?
 
2012-11-20 02:50:40 PM  
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Welcome, once again, to the trivia game where the points don't matter, the players don't care, and the questions are oh-so-obscure. This week's edition of Name That Player has a NEW CATEGORY THAT I'M SO SURE YOU'RE ALL REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. You see, everyone has been harping on the referees this week and referring back to the Potato Refs. Well this week is the Revenge of the Zebras - and I don't mean Hochuli is going to come kick each and every one of your asses. Although I bet he could. Now bend over and spell "run", it's ON!

3 Categories, 3 Questions. QBs, Teams, and RULES. Answers go up after everyone has had a chance to answer.

Name that QB

1. Playing on the road is tough - but this player is tougher. This QB has the best QB Rating in Away Games.

2. This QB has lately been getting a lot of media attention, but it isn't for this statistical anomaly. He is the most accurate passer in the 1st Quarter.

3. It wouldn't be Name That Player trivia without some negative stats. This QB leads the league in red zone INTs, with a league high 4 ruined scoring opportunities.


Name That Team

1. This team leads the league in several negative categories, but this one is particularly surprising considering their plan of attack in the previous seasons. This team has run the lowest percentage of running plays in the NFL.

2. Much has been said about this team's ability to run the ball this season, but surprisingly this team is the worst in the NFL at converting 3rd and short with a running play.

3. This team, in spite of being on an uptick as of late, still drags along the bottom of the league in Rushing Yards on 1st Down, meaning that they either need to re-evaluate their playcalling or stop trying to run on 1st down all together.


Name That Call

1. Kicking a safety kick out of bounds is a penalty - but how many penalty yards?

2. This season, there has been a rule change. Illegally kicking a ball on the offense is still a penalty - but what is the punishment?

3. Name these three hilarious looking referee signals, in order.
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PENCILS DOWN. As always, make sure you record your score and shove it directly up your exhaust pipe. Don't be afraid to speak up about what you think the answer might be.
 
2012-11-20 02:51:36 PM  

GAT_00: Cyberluddite: GAT_00: roc6783: 1 through 16, sure the NFC is better, but not overwhelmingly.

***snip***

But to roc sorry can't multi quote on phone, I think the caliber of the conference as a whole matters when discussing one versus the other. And while the playoffs are split, it's pretty much straight NFC below that, and I think SF is the most likely champion over Houston.


I do not disagree that the NFC is better for sure, I am just not "ZOMG TEH NFC IS THE BESTEST EVER". Not saying you are either, it just seems that from a local and national perspective, that is what I'm picking up.

Then again, I am looking to the media to provide a well reasoned, rational analysis rather than a story line and I feel like an idiot just typing that out.
 
2012-11-20 02:53:43 PM  
Speaking of picks...

I don't want to toot my own horn or anything (I tried; not flexible enough), but 12-2 is pretty damn impressive. Given that my only two misses involved AFC East teams not called the New England Patriots somehow managing to win, it's more impressive still. And considering how utterly terrible many of those picks were looking circa 3:30pm Sunday afternoon, well...I'm pleased as punch. A saying that I in no way comprehend, but I'll go along with it anyway because I'm just that pleased.

Oh, and did I mention that the Ravens beat the Steelers for the third straight time? I'm more pleased than punch. Original post here.

Miami Dolphins at Buffalo Bills:
So last week I nail not only the winning team but the actual final score of the Thursday Night game, while this week the Bills happen to me. Coming into the game dead last against the run, Buffalo held Reggie Bush to just 20 rushing yards, and held Miami as a whole to 60. Tack on a trio of Dolphins turnovers and suddenly...well, the Bills are still 4-6, the Pats are still winning the division, and Ryan Fitzpatrick is still struggling so nothing really changed. The loss does kind of hurt Miami's chances of not finishing last again, though. 0-1


Arizona Cardinals at Atlanta Falcons:
Need proof that Matt Ryan is truly an elite quarterback? Well, who else could win a game while throwing 5 interceptions and not throwing a TD pass? Actually, that feat puts him into pretty good company...the last quarterback to accomplish that in the NFL was some guy named Bart Starr, back in '67. Arizona's soon-to-be ex-coach Ken Wisenhunt benched John Skelton after a 2 of 7 start in favor of rookie Ryan Lindley, who rewarded the decision with a stellar 9/20, 64 yard performance. Tack on three sacks and the Cards wound up with 41 net yards through the air...41. Let's put that into perspective: Chad Farking Henne threw for more yards with a single pass on Sunday. Three times. 1-1

Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Carolina Panthers:
Cam Newton's stat line against the 32nd-ranked pass defense in the league: 16/29, 252, 1 TD. Not exactly the Best in the World. The Panthers looked very Clevelandesque in blowing a 10-point fourth quarter lead, and eventually lost in overtime to Josh Freeman and the Bucs while giving up 138 rushing yards to the Black Rudy (he doesn't like the "Muscle Hamster" nickname, so I'll go with this one). Oh, Carolina. 2-1

Cleveland Browns at Dallas Cowboys:
Suck (suk): v.intr. 4. Vulgar Slang To be disgustingly disagreeable or offensive, or to require overtime to beat the Cleveland Browns in your home stadium. The Browns have now lost 12 consecutive road games, with their last road win being week 2 of 2011, against the Manningless Indianapolis Colts. The fact that Dallas would require a 17-point fourth quarter just to reach overtime against these guys should be an embarassment on par with dreaming you were naked in class and then waking up to discover you were actually wearing a crotchless pink tutu. That this Cowboys team is somehow now 5-5 is nothing short of miraculous. 3-1

Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions:
Some might consider needing a fourth-quarter comeback against the Lions to be pretty embarrassing as well, but this was a divisional game in Detroit, and a part of what's become a pretty bitter rivalry over the last few years. Not Green Bay's strongest effort, sure, but after a 2-3 start which had many writing them off this season the Packers are right back in the division title chase. 4-1

Jacksonville Jaguars at Houston Texans:
So building off of my uncannily accurate prediction, the LFL team took the '72 Dolphins into overtime before remembering they weren't actually in the same league. What more is there to say here? Matt Schaub ties for the second-highest passing total in NFL history, two wide receivers each go over 200 yards in the same game for the first time in NFL history, and 80 points and more than 1,100 combined yards of offense later the Texans improve to 9-1, while the Jags fall to 1-9. Oh, yeah, and Chad Henne threw for more yards in 3 1/2 quarters of relief than Blaine Gabbert has ever managed in a full game. So...just like everyone figured it would go down. 5-1

Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs:
When the entire football world knows that you're not up to the level of the Cincinnati Bengals, you got problems. It also speaks volumes when Benjarvus Green-Ellis goes over 100 yards for the first time in more than a year against you, and when you only have a quarterback controversy because both starting options suck equally. Someone needs to have Earl Campbell shoot a text in Jamaal Charles' direction, because lord knows he needs to talk to someone who'd understand. 6-1


New York Jets at St. Louis Rams:
Fark you, New York Jets. Seriously...I'm glad I wasn't born a fan of you, because I don't know how anybody could live that way (and I sure as hell don't see how anyone could choose that fate). After losing a heart-breaker to New England and following that up with being dominated by Miami and the Seahawks, you figure it's over. The playoffs aren't in the future, the team has lost whatever focus it had, and traveling to face a younger, hungrier team spelled certain doom. Well, fark you, New York Jets. Oh, and Bilal Powell? Seriously? Fark you, St. Louis Rams, too. 6-2


Philadelphia Eagles at Washington Redskins:
You have to hand it to the Philadelphia Eagles: one of these teams was leaving the stadium in last place of arguably the weakest division in football, and Philly just wanted it more. Four more turnovers (3 by "savior" Nick Foles), 169 yards surrendered on the ground, and as the final cherry on top, they somehow managed to give up 4 touchdown passes to Robert Griffin III. On only 15 pass attempts! 7-2

New Orleans Saints at Oakland Raiders:
All kidding aside, I honestly thought the Raiders would keep this a little closer. We all knew they wouldn't be able to stop Drew Brees through the air, but Oakland's offense has been starting to click and heaven knows the Saints aren't a threat to pitch a shutout anytime soon. Brees and Carson Palmer both went over 3,000 yards in the game, but hats off to Saints' backup Chase Daniel, who completed his first (and only) pass of the season in mop-up duty. Now in his fourth year in the league, Daniel is 7 of 9 for his career (and could probably start for the Chiefs). 8-2

San Diego Chargers at Denver Broncos:
There are few things in life more satisfying than watching a dejected Philip Rivers walk off the field as the clock runs down, having just taken his fourth sack of the game. Credit Rivers for even keeping the Chargers in the game at all, though at least in part due to Willis McGahee's injury. I think it's safe for fans in Denver to start making playoff plans now. 9-2

Indianapolis Colts at New England Patriots:
So after I make a big deal pointing out that Stevan Ridley has been a better barometer of New England's success this year than Tom Brady, Ridley gets held to 28 yards on 13 attempts and the Pats run up 59 points on Indy. Meanwhile, Andrew Luck had plenty of his namesake in the game...all of it bad, though. Three interceptions and a lost fumble to go along with an absentee defense which led to him putting up 50 passes...well, it's a learning experience, right? 10-2

Baltimore Ravens at Pittsburgh Steelers:
To borrow a line from the Sky Sports postgame commentary, the Pittsburgh Steelers won the first minute of the game, but the Baltimore Ravens won the other 59. It wasn't pretty, Joe Flacco wasn't particularly good, and Ray Rice was completely bottled up on the ground but the Ravens still found a way to win. Pittsburgh, on the other hand, is now one pulled hamstring away from having to suit up Mike Tomlin. 11-2

Chicago Bears at San Francisco 49ers:
I wasn't actually too far off with my final score prediction, but I really expected it to stay tight through the half. In a scenario remarkably similar to last year, the Bears' playoff hopes hinge on the recovery of Jay Cutler...because 14/22, 107, 1 TD & 2 INT just ain't gonna cut it in the long run. Colin Kaepernick just moved up to "add to dictionary" in spell-check status. 12-2
 
2012-11-20 02:57:17 PM  
As a long-time Philadelphia Eagles season ticket holder I assure you that 27th place is at LEAST two spots too high.

The team will finish 3-13 and is a dropped Browns INT, a shady Ravens penalty and a twice-missed Giants field goal as time expired away from heading to 0-16
 
2012-11-20 02:58:11 PM  
I'm a Bears fan, and I can't seriously consider the Bears the best 7-3 team right now, so, this is laughable that they still list the Bears ahead of New England and Denver.

The Bears are not that much better than last years edition, especially without Cutler. I mean, they couldn't beat the Tebow Bronco's last year... you think they'd beat the Manning Broncos?

At best, the Bears are 8th, and honestly I could see them thrown somewhere in the middle of that 9-14th pool. The last two weeks really have exposed how much their record has been propped up by not beating anyone above 15th in the Power Rankings.
 
2012-11-20 03:01:47 PM  
Treygreen13: ***snip***

Here are my total guesses, which I will likely not even get to see if they are right since this thread isn't green until 5 pm.

Name that QB

1. Playing on the road is tough - but this player is tougher. This QB has the best QB Rating in Away Games. - Peyton Manning

2. This QB has lately been getting a lot of media attention, but it isn't for this statistical anomaly. He is the most accurate passer in the 1st Quarter. - Andrew Luck

3. It wouldn't be Name That Player trivia without some negative stats. This QB leads the league in red zone INTs, with a league high 4 ruined scoring opportunities. - Phillip "Worst Day Ever" Rivers


Name That Team

1. This team leads the league in several negative categories, but this one is particularly surprising considering their plan of attack in the previous seasons. This team has run the lowest percentage of running plays in the NFL. - Jets

2. Much has been said about this team's ability to run the ball this season, but surprisingly this team is the worst in the NFL at converting 3rd and short with a running play. - 49ers

3. This team, in spite of being on an uptick as of late, still drags along the bottom of the league in Rushing Yards on 1st Down, meaning that they either need to re-evaluate their playcalling or stop trying to run on 1st down all together. - Packers


Name That Call

1. Kicking a safety kick out of bounds is a penalty - but how many penalty yards? - 15 yds from the spot it goes out

2. This season, there has been a rule change. Illegally kicking a ball on the offense is still a penalty - but what is the punishment? - 10 yds from scrimmage

3. Name these three hilarious looking referee signals, in order. - I need a backrub, This is how I do sexy time with your mother, and raise the roof.
 
2012-11-20 03:06:17 PM  

Treygreen13: 3. It wouldn't be Name That Player trivia without some negative stats. This QB leads the league in red zone INTs, with a league high 4 ruined scoring opportunities.


Living in this area, I know that that answer is definitely Mark "The Sanchise" Sanchez.
 
2012-11-20 03:08:22 PM  
Thanks for moving the green time up, modmins. I take back most of the terrible things I said about you.
 
2012-11-20 03:09:46 PM  
Name that QB

1. Playing on the road is tough - but this player is tougher. This QB has the best QB Rating in Away Games. Luck

2. This QB has lately been getting a lot of media attention, but it isn't for this statistical anomaly. He is the most accurate passer in the 1st Quarter. RG III

3. It wouldn't be Name That Player trivia without some negative stats. This QB leads the league in red zone INTs, with a league high 4 ruined scoring opportunities. Vick


Name That Team

1. This team leads the league in several negative categories, but this one is particularly surprising considering their plan of attack in the previous seasons. This team has run the lowest percentage of running plays in the NFL. Titans

2. Much has been said about this team's ability to run the ball this season, but surprisingly this team is the worst in the NFL at converting 3rd and short with a running play. Jets

3. This team, in spite of being on an uptick as of late, still drags along the bottom of the league in Rushing Yards on 1st Down, meaning that they either need to re-evaluate their playcalling or stop trying to run on 1st down all together. Titans
 
2012-11-20 03:10:41 PM  
roc6783, you got 1 right. Although "Raise the Roof" is pretty close because I don't think anyone will get that one right.
 
2012-11-20 03:12:54 PM  
Falcons, Bears, Ravens and 49ers are too high. Packers and Broncos are too low.

What Graf whar?!

Trapgametrapgametrapgame
 
2012-11-20 03:14:26 PM  
The Chiefs failed one season too late. On the plus side, they might get a few good offers for their top three pick.
 
2012-11-20 03:17:15 PM  

Harv72b: ***snip***


Not to untoot your horn, but I have a confidence pool league with 18 people. 6 only missed the NYJ pick, 3 missed BUF and NYJ, 2 missed NYJ and TB, 1 missed NYJ and BAL, 1 missed NYJ and SFO, and 1 missed NYJ and CIN.

No one picked the NYJ/STL game right, but of 18 people only 3 missed more than 1 other game. Just a really weird week.
 
2012-11-20 03:17:53 PM  

Treygreen13: Thanks for moving the green time up, modmins. I take back most of the terrible things I said about you.


Seconded.
 
2012-11-20 03:18:27 PM  
Vegas has the AFC favored to win the Super Bowl. Therefore the AFC is better than the NFC.

QED
 
2012-11-20 03:19:38 PM  
/it's hard to be a Raiders fan
 
2012-11-20 03:19:38 PM  

dletter: I'm a Bears fan, and I can't seriously consider the Bears the best 7-3 team right now, so, this is laughable that they still list the Bears ahead of New England and Denver.

The Bears are not that much better than last years edition, especially without Cutler. I mean, they couldn't beat the Tebow Bronco's last year... you think they'd beat the Manning Broncos?

At best, the Bears are 8th, and honestly I could see them thrown somewhere in the middle of that 9-14th pool. The last two weeks really have exposed how much their record has been propped up by not beating anyone above 15th in the Power Rankings.


Football being a game of matchups, the Bears have proven to be horrible against any good D-line, which doesn't look good against any playoff team such as GB, SEA, SF, NYG. Also, the Bears defensive scheme against SF with man coverage was horrible.
 
2012-11-20 03:20:05 PM  

Treygreen13: roc6783, you got 1 right. Although "Raise the Roof" is pretty close because I don't think anyone will get that one right.


It's the sexy time with your mom one, isn't it? Ya it is.
 
2012-11-20 03:24:10 PM  

Treygreen13: Name that QB

1. Playing on the road is tough - but this player is tougher. This QB has the best QB Rating in Away Games. Brady

2. This QB has lately been getting a lot of media attention, but it isn't for this statistical anomaly. He is the most accurate passer in the 1st Quarter. Alex Smith

3. It wouldn't be Name That Player trivia without some negative stats. This QB leads the league in red zone INTs, with a league high 4 ruined scoring opportunities. Sanchez


Name That Team

1. This team leads the league in several negative categories, but this one is particularly surprising considering their plan of attack in the previous seasons. This team has run the lowest percentage of running plays in the NFL. Chargers?

2. Much has been said about this team's ability to run the ball this season, but surprisingly this team is the worst in the NFL at converting 3rd and short with a running play. Panthers

3. This team, in spite of being on an uptick as of late, still drags along the bottom of the league in Rushing Yards on 1st Down, meaning that they either need to re-evaluate their playcalling or stop trying to run on 1st down all together. Jets


Name That Call

1. Kicking a safety kick out of bounds is a penalty - but how many penalty yards? 15 yards from the spot of the ball going out of bounds

2. This season, there has been a rule change. Illegally kicking a ball on the offense is still a penalty - but what is the punishment? Being traded to the Browns

3. Name these three hilarious looking referee signals, in order.

Illegal forward pass, loss of down, excessive crowd noise (wild guess)
 
2012-11-20 03:25:27 PM  
Sorry, but the 49ers should own the #1 spot in beating the holy hell out of "Da Bears" while the Falcons and Texans struggled to beat bad-to-mediocre teams at home.
 
2012-11-20 03:28:00 PM  

Treygreen13: roc6783, you got 1 right. Although "Raise the Roof" is pretty close because I don't think anyone will get that one right.


The last one is reset the play clock is it not?
 
2012-11-20 03:30:04 PM  
Ravens at 5. They are who we thought they were at the start of the season! (Actually, they might have been 2 or 3, but they've been at 5 for like a month, right?)

Joe Flacco's reaction to the news:
upload.wikimedia.org

// also his reaction to cashing his game check, the birth of his firstborn son, getting kicked in the nads, T-Sizzle's man-crush on The Concussed Dennis Pitta, and Helen Mirren's sextape
 
2012-11-20 03:30:11 PM  
Also two hands behind head is loss of down (or as I call it, sleeping through a play) and hand behind back is illegal forward pass.....which leads to sleeping through a play.
 
2012-11-20 03:30:45 PM  

roc6783: Captain Steroid: BRONCOS HOLDING THE 7 SPOT! :D

[i1182.photobucket.com image 419x316]

Peyton is magic.


I think we got gyped. The Bears should have fallen 2 more spots.
 
2012-11-20 03:31:37 PM  

DoBeDoBeDo: Treygreen13: roc6783, you got 1 right. Although "Raise the Roof" is pretty close because I don't think anyone will get that one right.

The last one is reset the play clock is it not?


That one is done with one hand, not two. (Unless I'm wrong and it is with two, in which case, I stink)
 
2012-11-20 03:32:43 PM  

roc6783: Treygreen13: roc6783, you got 1 right. Although "Raise the Roof" is pretty close because I don't think anyone will get that one right.

It's the sexy time with your mom one, isn't it? Ya it is.


Sadly, I'm guessing it is the Packer one.
 
2012-11-20 03:32:46 PM  

Rwa2play: Sorry, but the 49ers should own the #1 spot in beating the holy hell out of "Da Bears" while the Falcons and Texans struggled to beat bad-to-mediocre teams at home.


2 win violation. Should have BEAT the Rams instead of tying at home.
 
2012-11-20 03:33:04 PM  

kronicfeld: Their blowout loss to the Patriots showed how out of place the Colts look in the playoff picture. (Clayton)

Except that they would get the 6th seed if the playoffs started today, and they have a cake remaining schedule with the exception of Houston.


They're not saying they can't make the playoffs. They're saying they'll get their asses reamed wide open by the first playoff team they see.
 
2012-11-20 03:33:53 PM  

basemetal: /it's hard to be a Raiders fan


Yeah, the weekly check-ins with parole officers and advanced periodontal disease are bummers.
 
2012-11-20 03:34:32 PM  
i280.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-20 03:34:42 PM  

tommyl66: DoBeDoBeDo: Treygreen13: roc6783, you got 1 right. Although "Raise the Roof" is pretty close because I don't think anyone will get that one right.

The last one is reset the play clock is it not?

That one is done with one hand, not two. (Unless I'm wrong and it is with two, in which case, I stink)


I was right, 1 hand is the 25 second play clock (after time outs) 2 hands is 40 second (all other times).

so we were both right?
 
2012-11-20 03:35:07 PM  
tommyl66, you have 1 and 2/3 correct.
 
2012-11-20 03:35:09 PM  

DeltaPunch: kronicfeld: Their blowout loss to the Patriots showed how out of place the Colts look in the playoff picture. (Clayton)

Except that they would get the 6th seed if the playoffs started today, and they have a cake remaining schedule with the exception of Houston.

They're not saying they can't make the playoffs. They're saying they'll get their asses reamed wide open by the first playoff team they see.


So they're the falcons?
 
2012-11-20 03:36:58 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: As a long-time Philadelphia Eagles season ticket holder I assure you that 27th place is at LEAST two spots too high.

The team will finish 3-13 and is a dropped Browns INT, a shady Ravens penalty and a twice-missed Giants field goal as time expired away from heading to 0-16


I actually had to look up the fact that the Phillies have won more recently than the Eagles. It's true. Oct. 1st. Eagles beat the Giants the day before.
 
2012-11-20 03:37:52 PM  

DoBeDoBeDo: so we were both right?


Sort of. That's one of the hand signals you rarely see - that and the illegal touching when they down a punt.
 
2012-11-20 03:38:32 PM  
DET +3 is easy money this week.

/Texans fan.
 
2012-11-20 03:38:51 PM  

Treygreen13: DoBeDoBeDo: so we were both right?

Sort of. That's one of the hand signals you rarely see - that and the illegal touching when they down a punt.


Actually you see it all the time if you go to a game, just not something they stop the game for or that they explain.
 
2012-11-20 03:38:56 PM  

roc6783: No one picked the NYJ/STL game right, but of 18 people only 3 missed more than 1 other game. Just a really weird week.


Really? I got a perfect score this week thanks to the Jest playing up to expectations against the Lambs. Probably going to be my only perfect pick'em week this year.
 
2012-11-20 03:38:59 PM  
Also, before I forget...

WHAR GRAF!?!??!?! WHAR?!?!?!?!

WHAR JAKE!?!??!?!? WHAR!?!?!?!?
 
2012-11-20 03:39:02 PM  

thecpt: DeltaPunch: kronicfeld: Their blowout loss to the Patriots showed how out of place the Colts look in the playoff picture. (Clayton)

Except that they would get the 6th seed if the playoffs started today, and they have a cake remaining schedule with the exception of Houston.

They're not saying they can't make the playoffs. They're saying they'll get their asses reamed wide open by the first playoff team they see.

So they're the falcons?


profootballmock.com
 
2012-11-20 03:39:15 PM  
Name That Call

1. Kicking a safety kick out of bounds is a penalty - but how many penalty yards? - Receiving team may elect to take the ball 30 yards from the spot of the kick or at the point where the kick went out of bounds.

2. This season, there has been a rule change. Illegally kicking a ball on the offense is still a penalty - but what is the punishment? - 10 yards and loss of down

3. Name these three hilarious looking referee signals, in order.
a. Illegal forward pass
b. Loss of down
c. I'm not sure; I see a one-handed version a lot at the high school level to start the play clock, so I assume it's a timekeeping thing.
 
2012-11-20 03:42:10 PM  

degenerate-afro: roc6783: No one picked the NYJ/STL game right, but of 18 people only 3 missed more than 1 other game. Just a really weird week.

Really? I got a perfect score this week thanks to the Jest playing up to expectations against the Lambs. Probably going to be my only perfect pick'em week this year.


Ya, I missed on MIA and STL, but I am still in first for the 4th week in a row.
 
2012-11-20 03:42:15 PM  

LantisEscudo: Name That Call

1. Kicking a safety kick out of bounds is a penalty - but how many penalty yards? - Receiving team may elect to take the ball 30 yards from the spot of the kick or at the point where the kick went out of bounds.

2. This season, there has been a rule change. Illegally kicking a ball on the offense is still a penalty - but what is the punishment? - 10 yards and loss of down

3. Name these three hilarious looking referee signals, in order.
a. Illegal forward pass
b. Loss of down
c. I'm not sure; I see a one-handed version a lot at the high school level to start the play clock, so I assume it's a timekeeping thing.


Well done. The Safety kick rule is rarely brought up, but you nailed it. The illegal kick rule was changed this season to add loss of down. What precipitated that change, I don't know.
 
2012-11-20 03:44:49 PM  
"Six losses in a row. The Phillies won more recently. (Yes, really.) They do nothing well at all."

Come on Graziano, obviously the Eagles are great at collapsing under the weight of mounting disappointment.

/Skins fan
//Absolutely no room to talk at all
///It's almost December and we're not eliminated from the playoffs yet!
 
2012-11-20 03:45:01 PM  
Redskins as best 4-6 team and 18th overall seems about right. I'd argue that they should be above the Cowboys, but we'll see if that's accurate in just two days.
 
2012-11-20 03:46:38 PM  

DeltaPunch: Mr. Coffee Nerves: As a long-time Philadelphia Eagles season ticket holder I assure you that 27th place is at LEAST two spots too high.

The team will finish 3-13 and is a dropped Browns INT, a shady Ravens penalty and a twice-missed Giants field goal as time expired away from heading to 0-16

I actually had to look up the fact that the Phillies have won more recently than the Eagles. It's true. Oct. 1st. Eagles beat the Giants the day before.


Gotta say, life is good so far as the Giants are concerned: the Jets are a joke and the Eagles are garbage.
 
2012-11-20 03:47:56 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Ravens at 5. They are who we thought they were at the start of the season! (Actually, they might have been 2 or 3, but they've been at 5 for like a month, right?)

Joe Flacco's reaction to the news:
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// also his reaction to cashing his game check, the birth of his firstborn son, getting kicked in the nads, T-Sizzle's man-crush on The Concussed Dennis Pitta, and Helen Mirren's sextape


Well hello, you sexy beast. So nice to see you around my favorite part of the internet. And since I have the graph up & ready to be updated, I thought I'd let you know that the Ravens started out at #6.
 
2012-11-20 03:48:59 PM  

roc6783: GAT_00: roc6783: GAT_00: ***snip***

Eh, I'm a Titans fan, and honestly I think the NFC is better than us this year.

1 through 16, sure the NFC is better, but not overwhelmingly. But who in the NFC couldn't the Texans, Ravens, Patriots, and Broncos match up with? I know the 49ers could match up with anyone, but I have real doubts about the Packers (kill me with fire), the Falcons, the Bears (even with Cutler healthy), and the Giants.


O.O Your rampant fandom is one of the only reason Splat comes to the sports tab lol. Seems to be a lot less Rogers photobombs around these parts lately...
 
2012-11-20 03:54:40 PM  

Di Atribe: Dr Dreidel: Ravens at 5. They are who we thought they were at the start of the season! (Actually, they might have been 2 or 3, but they've been at 5 for like a month, right?)

Joe Flacco's reaction to the news:
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// also his reaction to cashing his game check, the birth of his firstborn son, getting kicked in the nads, T-Sizzle's man-crush on The Concussed Dennis Pitta, and Helen Mirren's sextape

Well hello, you sexy beast. So nice to see you around my favorite part of the internet. And since I have the graph up & ready to be updated, I thought I'd let you know that the Ravens started out at #6.


You talking to me or Flacco?

// started at 6, are now 5; I reiterate my Denny-Green-channeling:
// "They are who we thought they were at season's start!"
// sigh...I wish Billick'd had some kind of meltdown, perhaps during he and Fassel's Season of Fail (started 4-2, lost 10 in a row to close the season - McNair's last)
 
2012-11-20 03:56:52 PM  
The Phillies won more recently than the Eagles?

Ouch.
 
2012-11-20 04:06:15 PM  

splat the whale: roc6783: GAT_00: roc6783: GAT_00: ***snip***

O.O Your rampant fandom is one of the only reason Splat comes to the sports tab lol. Seems to be a lot less Rogers photobombs around these parts lately...


There are no more Power Rankings Rodgers PhotoBombsTM anymore due to Packers fan request. I was told that I bore full responsibility for the early playoff exit, and agreed to end the deluge.

As to my rampant fandom...5 in a row, #1 in the NFC NORTH BIATCHES!!!!11!1!!1!!! Bears and Quitler fans can EABOD, Lions crybabies can go arm-stomp quietly into that good night, and the Viqueens can Ponder what a good QB actually looks like, while hoping AP doesn't fall apart after carrying the entire team on his back.
 
2012-11-20 04:07:19 PM  
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2012-11-20 04:12:35 PM  

m1ke: DET +3 is easy money this week.

/Texans fan.


I don't know. It wouldn't shock me, but The Texans probably won't be flat 2 weeks in a row
 
2012-11-20 04:12:44 PM  

Treygreen13: [i291.photobucket.com image 598x200]
Welcome, once again, to the trivia game where the points don't matter, the players don't care, and the questions are oh-so-obscure. This week's edition of Name That Player has a NEW CATEGORY THAT I'M SO SURE YOU'RE ALL REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. You see, everyone has been harping on the referees this week and referring back to the Potato Refs. Well this week is the Revenge of the Zebras - and I don't mean Hochuli is going to come kick each and every one of your asses. Although I bet he could. Now bend over and spell "run", it's ON!

3 Categories, 3 Questions. QBs, Teams, and RULES. Answers go up after everyone has had a chance to answer.

Name that QB

1. Flacco
2. Sanchez
3. Sanchez

Name That Team

1. Denver
2. Houston
3. Pittsburgh

Name That Call

1. 15 yards
2. 10 yards and loss of down
3. no effing clue

 
2012-11-20 04:14:07 PM  

RumsfeldsReplacement: Name that QB

1. Flacco
2. Sanchez
3. Sanchez

Name That Team

1. Denver
2. Houston
3. Pittsburgh

Name That Call

1. 15 yards
2. 10 yards and loss of down
3. no effing clue


You have 1 correct so far. It's Sanchez.
 
2012-11-20 04:14:19 PM  

Dr Dreidel: You talking to me or Flacco?


Flacco? Why the hell would I say that to Flacco?
 
2012-11-20 04:14:46 PM  

roc6783: Lions crybabies can go arm-stomp quietly into that good night


Hey now, most of us Lions fans have simply accepted our perpetual ability to only play like an actual football team for 1 quarter a game. It's less whining and more bemused resignation.
 
2012-11-20 04:15:24 PM  
Err, two correct. You also got the illegal kicking correct, rumsfeldreplacement.
 
2012-11-20 04:16:09 PM  
1. Playing on the road is tough - but this player is tougher. This QB has the best QB Rating in Away Games. Rodgers

2. This QB has lately been getting a lot of media attention, but it isn't for this statistical anomaly. He is the most accurate passer in the 1st Quarter. Probably Luck or Griffin. I flipped a coin and it landed on Luck so I'll go with him

3. It wouldn't be Name That Player trivia without some negative stats. This QB leads the league in red zone INTs, with a league high 4 ruined scoring opportunities. Sanchize


Name That Team

1. This team leads the league in several negative categories, but this one is particularly surprising considering their plan of attack in the previous seasons. This team has run the lowest percentage of running plays in the NFL. Titans

2. Much has been said about this team's ability to run the ball this season, but surprisingly this team is the worst in the NFL at converting 3rd and short with a running play. Panthers.. I think Cam has completed all of their "rushing" first downs

3. This team, in spite of being on an uptick as of late, still drags along the bottom of the league in Rushing Yards on 1st Down, meaning that they either need to re-evaluate their playcalling or stop trying to run on 1st down all together. JEST


Name That Call

1. Kicking a safety kick out of bounds is a penalty - but how many penalty yards? 15 yards

2. This season, there has been a rule change. Illegally kicking a ball on the offense is still a penalty - bu ...
 
2012-11-20 04:16:48 PM  
Who's hungry for cupcakes and seventyburgers? It's the Third Weekennial Official Unofficial NFL Colley Rankings and Tier List!

Or 3WOUNFLCRTL.

A reminder slash disclaimer: Colley ratings are not predictive and should not be used for betting purposes. They should only be used for seeding NCAA-sanctioned tournaments and arguing on the Internet. Gamble at your own risk.

Anyway, it should come as no surprise that these rankings hew pretty closely to the standings, not counting playoff tiebreakers. The Colley method is designed to correct for schedule imbalances, and since pro schedules are a lot more balanced than college schedules, there's a lot less to correct. In fact, it can be proven that in the case of a perfectly balanced schedule (i.e. one or more round robins), each team's Colley rating is simply a function of its win percentage. Then again, these rankings still deviate more from the standings than ESPN's polls, at least this week. Whether that's because the writers are factoring in current trends and future outlooks or because they're just goddamn lazy is an exercise I leave to the reader.

Well, here they are. As before, plus means the computer ranking is higher than ESPN's, minus means the opposite, and Z means standardized score.

God Tier (2.0 < Z)
1. Houston Texans
Top Tier (1.5 < Z < 2.0)
2. Atlanta Falcons
Very High Tier (1.0 < Z < 1.5)
3. San Francisco 49ers
4. Green Bay Packers
5. Baltimore Ravens
6. Chicago Bears
7. New England Patriots (+1)
8. Denver Broncos (-1)
High Tier (0.5 < Z < 1.0)
9. Seattle Seahawks (+3)
Upper Mid Tier (0.0 < Z < 0.5)
10. Minnesota Vikings (+4)
11. Indianapolis Colts (+4)
12. New York Giants (-3)
13. Pittsburgh Steelers (-2)
14. Dallas Cowboys (+2)
Lower Mid Tier (-0.5 < Z < 0.0)
15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (-5)
16. Arizona Cardinals (+9)
17. New York Jets (+5)
18. Tennessee Titans (+5)
19. New Orleans Saints (-6)
20. Detroit Lions (-1)
21. Cincinnati Bengals (-4)
22. Buffalo Bills (-2)
23. St. Louis Rams (+3)
Low Tier (-1.0 < Z < -0.5)
24. Miami Dolphins (-4)
25. Washington Redskins (-7)
26. San Diego Chargers (-5)
27. Philadelphia Eagles
Very Low Tier (-1.5 < Z < -1.0)
28. Oakland Raiders
29. Carolina Panthers
Bottom Tier (-2.0 < Z < -1.5)
30. Cleveland Browns
31. Jacksonville Jaguars
S#!t Tier (Z < -2.0)
32. Kansas City Chiefs


Now WHAR EVERYTHING ELSE WHAR?
 
2012-11-20 04:19:54 PM  
Answer key goes up in 10 minutes.
 
2012-11-20 04:22:09 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: ***snip***


As with everything in life, the beginning and the end are easy, the middle is where everything jacks up.
 
2012-11-20 04:22:50 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Or 3WOUNFLCRTL.


You should probably consider a new acronym. Perhaps CRATER, Colley Rating And Tiers Everyone Reads.

But excellent work. We have a hell of a weekly post thing going on now. It's beautiful. Everybody is bringing something like a football potluck.
 
2012-11-20 04:23:20 PM  

Treygreen13: Answer key goes up in 10 minutes.

 

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2012-11-20 04:23:52 PM  
Friends,

We are gathered here today to celebrate an incredible achievement. A remarkable achievement. A practically implausible achievement, considering no objective observer could have possibly foreseen it taking place in today's NFL. Indeed, a truly stunning one, in which it can hardly be imagined that any team in the NFL would lose to a farking quarterback who threw five Goddamned interceptions and not a single farking touchdown.

But sadly, I digress.

The achievement in question today is one recorded by an incredibly hyped rookie quarterback, not a QB who merely played like one. Today's pigskin hero came into the league as the "best prospect since John Elway," someone who broke all of said horsetoothed gunslinger's collegiate records, a perennial Heisman candidate, made 3 bowls - the Fiesta, Sun, and Orange - and was named the MVP of the latter. Clearly these are all much more sterling stamps of approval than "he won something called the MPC Computers Bowl" and "at least he always managed to beat Notre Dame."

Riding this wave of praise as high as possible into his inaugural season, this week's winner had nonetheless been surrounded by whispers of discontent and the disgruntled suggestions of a fanbase that has at times this year looked with jealousy on another team's freshman selection. Heading into the draft, there was a certain segment of sentiment that perhaps his team shouldn't go with the 2011 Heisman candidate and should instead cast their lot with the 2011 Heisman winner. Ignoring these concerns, the number one pick remained set in stone, much like the ignominy achieved by an offense so farking bad it couldn't cash in on six total turnovers for at least twenty piddling points on Sunday.

However, in fairness, it's not as though that pick has caused serious agita for his team. There have been ebbs and flows in his play, surely, certain weeks have shown him paling in comparison to the sensation known as RG3, but others have showcased a quarterback living up to the promise and potential spoken of in glowing terms during his collegiate career. He hasn't displayed any headcase tendencies to turn into the next Todd Marinovich. It's not as if he dove headfirst into a rapidly dwindling supply of Hostess products and JaMarcus'd himself. Like every quarterback with a surplus of talent who's still finding his footing in a league with an immense learning curve, he's been solid on some weeks, and something less than solid in others. After all, it's not as if he's a veteran with a handful of seasons under his belt who spent the week matching interceptions with years he's been in the NFL.

This week, though, it was a far different story. At least, it was supposed to be. If the previous weeks had been mere study sessions, Week 11 was to be the final exam.

...yeah, logically there's six more weeks to the season after the 11th, but stay with me here.

Stepping onto the frozen field at Foxboro is a daunting challenge for any gunslinger, let alone a rookie, no matter how much raw skill and dazzling possibility they possess. Facing down the fearsome combination of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick on the road is enough to give anyone nightmares, but with the fate of a franchise on your back and wild card playoff hopes hanging in the balance, it's enough to make even massively overrated ACC quarterbacks cry for their mothers.

Nevertheless, starting off it seemed as though the job might be handled relatively well. True, New England had deferred the toss, leaving their prolific offense with a precious possession in their pocket for later, but that was okay. As long as their longtime rivals took care of business, it wouldn't matter. And in fact, things started out sparklingly, with a quick touchdown drive to open the festivities. The rookie was, for the moment, ahead of the decorated legend. A grin quickly spreading across his face, our man thought to himself, "Things might just work out after all. RG3 can eat my Ivy League balls. Matter of fact, on the subject of ridiculously douchetastic nicknames - "

His inner monologue interrupted by the tragically familiar sight of Tom Brady throwing a TD strike straight to Gronk, he took a steady deep breath and grabbed his helmet from the bench. "A shootout it is, then. Let's do this shiat, you buttchinned biatch" was the mindset as he retook the field and confidently sat under center, the ball on a string and 7 more points quickly followed. A 14 to 7 margin in favor of the visitors shone brightly from the scoreboard lights as the first quarter drew to a close, and the airshow promised by the preshow seemed as though it were fully underway. True, his efforts had started getting stymied before the quarter drew to a close and continued into the opening moments of the second frame, but it was fine. "A 3 and out here and there didn't hurt anyone that badly," he figured. "It's not as if this punt is gonna result in the lead being gone quicker than a hype balloon with a first round playoff bye or anything."

The game tied after a 68-yard punt return, this week's winner let out a long sigh and quickly came around to the idea that he'd have to do the job himself. "If the special teams is going to play that poorly," he pondered, "my teammates will need all the Luck they could get. Heh heh I should write that down for later." The search for a pen and paper would have to wait, as a mere 60 seconds were taken off the clock before a stunning pick 6 was flung from the rookie's grasp and taken straight to the house. The lead turned into a deficit, and after an exchange of field goals, halftime came. On the bright side, though, much like a Cardinals team with a fourth quarter lead, the outcome of this game was still very much in doubt.

Sadly, said outcome started being less in doubt immediately after the second half kickoff. A possession in hand for the Brady Bunch is poison for the opposition, and it quickly took effect in the form of a two-TD hole for our protagonist. On the other hand, being at his skill level, it's not as if being down two scores early in the third quarter was some insurmountable hill to climb. They could certainly march all the way back, road game or no road game, QB with an all access pass to Canton already stamped or no. With resolve in his heart, this quarterback figured, "As long as I keep calm and find my open receivers, there's still time to - "

The wind crushed from his lungs, this week's icon rolled helplessly on the ground directly after the ball had fallen on it. A fumble recovered by the opponent and turned into six points in short order, now the lead was 3 touchdowns, 14 of which directly provided by his failures. "Maybe it IS too hard," he darkly ruminated, "maybe I AM not good enough yet." Pushing those black thoughts out of his mind, he ignored the questioning looks of his teammates, refused to acknowledge the dreadlocked wonderboy they were thinking about, gathered them around himself, and took charge of that sideline.

"15 minutes are left on the clock, you know! Stranger things have happened. Hell, earlier this month a black man had been reelected to the White House! It's not as if that means an 0-4 playoff record isn't upcoming for the #1 seed of the NFC this year - some things are just too crazy to imagine - but if that could happen, 3 TDs on an awful Patriot defense are a piece of cake! Let's go win this ballgame!" With new inspiration and the ball firmly in hand, nothing was going to stop him from making his mark this week.

And indeed he did, as it took only one pass attempt to serve his own team a juicy fortyburger. Sitting glumly on the bench, he could only watch as Chef Brady fed him a fiftyburger soon thereafter. 21 Patriot points had come from his bumbling hand, outmatching the 14 points he had provided through the air for his own team. The shootout had turned into a blowout, and on the same week as a perfect game was posted by a certain other QB, no less.

There was no bottom.

With a shrug, he smiled and thought to himself, "Oh well, it could be worse. I could've lead an offense that was outscored by a safety in the playoffs. Time to get ready for the Bills."

For being the first of the 2012 hype twins to reach for this glory, for posting a 66.7 whereas someone else recorded a 158.3, for stepping up admirably where the Arizona Cardinals had so disgustingly failed (and not in the good way, either), I am proud to present The Jake for Week 11 of the 2012 NFL season to Andrew Luck of the Indianapolis Colts.

i63.photobucket.com

Andrew, any words?

www.fantasyfootballsportal.com

"I'm just happy I wasn't outscored by Chase Daniel in fantasy football this week!"

Good for you!


 
2012-11-20 04:28:20 PM  
The Vikings should at least be in the top 10. No movement since last week and after watching the Bears last night I have this sneaking feeling that the Vikes will be knocking on the door to 1st in the NFC North sooner than later.
 
2012-11-20 04:28:27 PM  

robsul82: Sitting glumly on the bench, he could only watch as Chef Brady fed him a fiftyburger soon thereafter.


Hehe.
 
2012-11-20 04:31:10 PM  
I love the Matty ice hate rob.

+1
 
2012-11-20 04:36:26 PM  

Rwa2play: Sorry, but the 49ers should own the #1 spot in beating the holy hell out of "Da Bears" while the Falcons and Texans struggled to beat bad-to-mediocre teams at home.


Well the Texans beat the holy hell out of the Bears last week after Cutler went out (at Soldier Field) while the 49ers tied with the Rams. Once week does not a top team make, I wouldn't put much weight on beating the rapidly fading Bears.
 
2012-11-20 04:36:41 PM  

Sapper_Topo: The Vikings should at least be in the top 10. No movement since last week and after watching the Bears last night I have this sneaking feeling that the Vikes will be knocking on the door to 1st in the NFC North sooner than later.


Who should you replace?

/other than the Bears, who would be replaced by the Seahawks, who beat the Vikings and have the same record
 
2012-11-20 04:36:42 PM  
The Saints have done well rallying back into contention, but their next four opponents have winning records. (Sando)

The Giants could easily slip back to .500 by that week, and two of the other three are against teams that the Saints have already defeated once thus far.

Still a glimmer of light in the Saints' tunnel this season. Also still a strong chance it will turn out to be the oncoming train of "Miss the playoffs and get a crappy draft pick", especially given that all of the other games involving fringe teams seem to be breaking the wrong way. (Stupid, useless Panthers...)
 
2012-11-20 04:39:00 PM  
Answers for Week 11 Trivia:

QBs:
1. Aaron Rodgers - Best Away QB Rating (115.3) shouldn't really be a surprise. A-Rodg leads a lot of categories. This one is no exception. Surprised nobody guessed that, though.
2. Andrew Luck - Oh, he of the Jake Award probably wishes that the game was only one quarter. He completes 72.5% of his 1st quarter passes, and it drops precipitously in the 4th Quarter. Hopefully he'll improve on that problem.
3. Mark Sanchez - 4 Red-Zone INTs. This one comes as no surprise to those who have been watching the Jets this season... The Sanchize has been blowing it something fierce. NTTAWWT

Teams:
1. Oakland Raiders - 33.9% of their plays this season are running plays - one might think that with Carson Palmer and a receiving corps that most people outside fantasy couldn't name with a gun to their head, you'd think they'd try to run a bit. But they aren't.
2. Minnesota Vikings - 25.9% success rate on 3rd and short runs. This one was a surprise to me. One might think a team with AP can go All Day, but they are the worst at picking up third and short.
3. Dallas Cowboys - Only 360 yards this year on 1st down runs. The Cowboys offensive line is awful, and Jason Garrett only knows two plays and they're both passes.


Rules:
1. Kicking a safety kick out of bounds? 30 yards from the spot of the kick (or at the spot it went out of bounds). This is different from kicking a kickoff out of bounds. Why? No idea. Several of the rules I read seem needlessly complicated (like the number and dimensions of footballs provided by the home team) but this rule seems to be a way to really, really discourage teams from taking safeties.
2. Illegally kicking a ball out of bounds is a penalty of 10 yards and Loss of Down. This rule was changed this season to add the loss of down. I'm not sure why. If anyone can remember an occasion where a team illegally kicking a ball out of bounds benefited them lately, let me know.
3. Ah, the hilarious referee poses. There are some real gems in the rule book but "I'm getting a Beej" and "Raise the Roof" were my favorites. They are:
Illegal Forward Pass, Loss of Down, Reset Playclock to 40 Seconds
 
2012-11-20 04:42:12 PM  

robsul82: Friends,


THAR JAKE THAR! I especially liked the digressions on RG3 and Matty Hype. No Jake is an island, but this week's definitely deserved some context.
 
2012-11-20 04:42:27 PM  

Treygreen13: 2. Illegally kicking a ball out of bounds is a penalty of 10 yards and Loss of Down. This rule was changed this season to add the loss of down. I'm not sure why. If anyone can remember an occasion where a team illegally kicking a ball out of bounds benefited them lately, let me know.


There's a popular .gif of Mark Sanchez kicking a fumble out of the back of his own endzone to save a TD. That was probably one of the reason the rule got changed.
 
2012-11-20 04:43:41 PM  
Why didn't Matty Ice win? He had an 83.333 Delhomme rating. I thought W-L was just the tiebreaker
 
2012-11-20 04:45:43 PM  

Misplaced yat: Still a glimmer of light in the Saints' tunnel this season. Also still a strong chance it will turn out to be the oncoming train of "Miss the playoffs and get a crappy draft pick", especially given that all of the other games involving fringe teams seem to be breaking the wrong way. (Stupid, useless Panthers...)


Well, if we hit a fivefecta this week - New Orleans of course, Atlanta over TB, Miami over Seattle, Chicago over Minnesota, Washington over Dallas - we're in! lol

/Miami is so going to blow a 4th quarter lead just to kick us in the teeth
 
2012-11-20 04:45:50 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: Why didn't Matty Ice win? He had an 83.333 Delhomme rating. I thought W-L was just the tiebreaker


He's the real winner to me.
 
2012-11-20 04:46:15 PM  

NEDM: Treygreen13: 2. Illegally kicking a ball out of bounds is a penalty of 10 yards and Loss of Down. This rule was changed this season to add the loss of down. I'm not sure why. If anyone can remember an occasion where a team illegally kicking a ball out of bounds benefited them lately, let me know.


There's a popular .gif of Mark Sanchez kicking a fumble out of the back of his own endzone to save a TD. That was probably one of the reason the rule got changed.


This one, to be specific.

However, I was wrong. That was from this year, so it was unlikely to have sparked that rulechange.
 
2012-11-20 04:47:00 PM  
Gnats move up in their week off. Eli wasn't out there stinking it up.
 
2012-11-20 04:47:50 PM  
Link

NEDM: Treygreen13: 2. Illegally kicking a ball out of bounds is a penalty of 10 yards and Loss of Down. This rule was changed this season to add the loss of down. I'm not sure why. If anyone can remember an occasion where a team illegally kicking a ball out of bounds benefited them lately, let me know.


There's a popular .gif of Mark Sanchez kicking a fumble out of the back of his own endzone to save a TD. That was probably one of the reason the rule got changed.

 

Too big for Fark.
 
2012-11-20 04:48:27 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: Why didn't Matty Ice win? He had an 83.333 Delhomme rating. I thought W-L was just the tiebreaker


Winning the game has always been an immediately disqualifier. It may have had the appearance of breaking ties, but was never intended as "solely to break ties."
 
2012-11-20 04:50:22 PM  
I'm an embarrassment to Fark Football. How did I not know that?
 
2012-11-20 04:51:20 PM  

NEDM: NEDM: Treygreen13: 2. Illegally kicking a ball out of bounds is a penalty of 10 yards and Loss of Down. This rule was changed this season to add the loss of down. I'm not sure why. If anyone can remember an occasion where a team illegally kicking a ball out of bounds benefited them lately, let me know.


There's a popular .gif of Mark Sanchez kicking a fumble out of the back of his own endzone to save a TD. That was probably one of the reason the rule got changed.

This one, to be specific.

However, I was wrong. That was from this year, so it was unlikely to have sparked that rulechange.


I imagine any situation where kicking the ball out of bounds is beneficial would be worth the additional loss of down.

I guess in that GIF, it's a safety since Sanchez kicked it out of the back of his own endzone. Still saves them 5 points, I guess.
 
2012-11-20 04:55:50 PM  

Rwa2play: Sorry, but the 49ers should own the #1 spot in beating the holy hell out of "Da Bears" while the Falcons and Texans struggled to beat bad-to-mediocre teams at home.


Yes but the Texans defense did not plan for Henne. They planned and prepared for Gabbert. The worst thing the Texans did was knock Gabbert out.

And "Da Bears" are not a very good team. Excellent defense, but horrible offense. If the defense doesn't bring it, they will lose.
 
2012-11-20 04:55:56 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: I'm an embarrassment to Fark Football. How did I not know that?


There was enough confusion this week that I take it on me that I apparently farked up and created the impression without intending to that the winner's exemption was only a tiebreaker and not a DQ-no-matter-the-score. So that's Me, Delhomme RatingTM - 16.7.
 
2012-11-20 05:06:30 PM  

roc6783: The Bears are a mess, and i love it.


: cries

dletter: The Bears are not that much better than last years edition, especially without Cutler.


: cries more

roc6783: 5 in a row, #1 in the NFC NORTH BIATCHES!!!!11!1!!1!!! Bears and Quitler fans can EABOD


: gives roc the finger

Electromax: I wouldn't put much weight on beating the rapidly fading Bears.


: sobs uncontrollably
 
2012-11-20 05:07:18 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Yes but the Texans defense did not plan for Henne. They planned and prepared for Gabbert. The worst thing the Texans did was knock Gabbert out.


They planned for one awful qb but instead had to face a different awful qb?... I'm not buying that one wholesale.

Farking blackmon, I'm tempted to pick you up now.
 
2012-11-20 05:07:30 PM  
Treygreen13:

1. "Guess what I have behind my back!"
2. "You guys keep playing; I'm just going to chill here for awhile"
3. "Looks like we've got a badass over here"
 
2012-11-20 05:07:41 PM  

scottydoesntknow: And "Da Bears" are not a very good team. Excellent defense, but horrible offense. If the defense doesn't bring it, they will lose.


This is actually one thing I'm wondering about last night's game: can we add "bad coaching" to the Bears' woes? It is pretty clear that they were terribly unprepared for Kaepernick giving the 49ers a viable passing attack, instead preparing for the assumption that the 49ers would play it safe and simply run the ball all the time and be content with a 9-3 puntfest. While they can probably be forgiven for that mistake (it was up in the air as to who would start for the Niners and Kaepernick had only shown flashes of his strong arm prior) the failure to adjust in any meaningful way as it became clear that the 49ers were making a serious effort to pass the ball just jumped out as a really bad coaching night for the Bears.
 
2012-11-20 05:08:57 PM  

Cheesehead_Dave: 1. "Guess what I have behind my back!"


HA! Joke's on them! There's nothing behind my back!
 
2012-11-20 05:13:27 PM  

robsul82: ***snip***


Good times, though I was looking for more Matty Ice vitriol, if only for the lulz.
 
2012-11-20 05:13:28 PM  

thecpt: scottydoesntknow: Yes but the Texans defense did not plan for Henne. They planned and prepared for Gabbert. The worst thing the Texans did was knock Gabbert out.

They planned for one awful qb but instead had to face a different awful qb?... I'm not buying that one wholesale.

Farking blackmon, I'm tempted to pick you up now.


It's a completely different game plan and throwing style. Plus Henne didn't really have a chance to suck since he was knocked out at the beginning of the 2011 season. Apparently he learned a couple things while sitting on the IR list. I'm not saying he's awesome, but he's a hell of a lot better than Gabbert and he wanted to win last weekend.

Thank god the Texans can bring still bring it on offense if the defense decides to go to sleep (unlike Chicago).
 
2012-11-20 05:14:55 PM  

Sapper_Topo: The Vikings should at least be in the top 10. No movement since last week and after watching the Bears last night I have this sneaking feeling that the Vikes will be knocking on the door to 1st in the NFC North sooner than later.


AHAHAHHHAAHAHA. HAHAHA. No.
 
2012-11-20 05:18:08 PM  

robsul82: HaywoodJablonski: I'm an embarrassment to Fark Football. How did I not know that?

There was enough confusion this week that I take it on me that I apparently farked up and created the impression without intending to that the winner's exemption was only a tiebreaker and not a DQ-no-matter-the-score. So that's Me, Delhomme RatingTM - 16.7.


Don't be so hard on yourself. What are the odds that an outright Jake leader would get the winner's exemption? (No, seriously, what are they? Pro Football Reference doesn't make this stuff easy to look up.) It's not easy to remember a rule without seeing it in action. Like how ties surprise both teams when they happen, now that they only happen once every four or five years.
 
2012-11-20 05:20:00 PM  

skrame: roc6783: The Bears are a mess, and i love it.

: cries

dletter: The Bears are not that much better than last years edition, especially without Cutler.

: cries more

roc6783: 5 in a row, #1 in the NFC NORTH BIATCHES!!!!11!1!!1!!! Bears and Quitler fans can EABOD

: gives roc the finger

Electromax: I wouldn't put much weight on beating the rapidly fading Bears.

: sobs uncontrollably


thatsonpoint.blogspot.com

You sustain me
 
2012-11-20 05:20:11 PM  

libranoelrose: [i.imgur.com image 390x220]


I heart that gif.

/Worst 1-2-3 QB punch ever
//Team Blackout!
 
2012-11-20 05:22:01 PM  

scottydoesntknow: but he's a hell of a lot better than Gabbert


welll....duh. I think Tebow is the only one on the list "Quarterbacks shiattier than Gabbert". I'm just saying its not like your switching from defending Kolb to defending a healthy Vick. The amount of points and yards they gave up was ridiculous.
 
2012-11-20 05:26:51 PM  
@ WAS -3.5 PhI 44.5
going with WASH. Wash is 1-3 at home, PHI 1-3 OTR. Yeesh. I'll say WASH outright but who knows with either team. PHI was racking up some cheap wins early and wasn't WASH getting games ripped late? I'll say under. 21-13 type game.


1-0. Wash by 25.



GB -3 @ DET 52
GB should be favored by more. GB outright.

2-0. Pack by 4! narrow, but i'll take it.



@ ATL -9.5 Arizona 44
ATL of course is probbly pissed off after last week's finish and Arizona in dire need of a win (a loss today would six in a row) so I think the Redbirds come out with a chip on their shoulder.


3-0. 4 point loss. dammit. and you could say we did come out with the chip.



TB -1 @ Caro 48
TB desperately needs this game to have any shot at the South. While ATL has a three game lead, that isn't insurmountable with 7 games left. The proverbial "you have to beat the teams you're supposed to beat", and TB must beat CARO (also, how interesting does the South get if ARIZ heists a win and TB wins? That would give us ATL 6-2, TB 6-4 but TB with a better divisional record if they beat CARO.) TB outright.


4-0. TB by 6.


@ DAL -7.5 Cleveland 43.5
the INT bowl? The two most intercepted QBs in 2012. I'll say Cleveland covers as I don't think DAL deserves 7.5. The Star On the Helmet factor (which since i've been actively factoring it into my picks for approx a month, i don't think I've been wrong on it) in play as usual. this should be a 5, 5.5 line.

5-0. CB lost by 3.


@ STL -3.5 NY Jets 39
What an under.....Gonna pick STL outright. STL is 3-2 at home, Jets 1-3 OTR.

5-1. Jets by 14.



@ NE -9.5 Indianapolis 54
good lord, been sick of Luck v Brady storyline for days now. "THE PASSING OF THE TORCH?" settle down. Remember when we put Romo / Freeman / Newton / RGIII (after his second game) and Russell Wilson (in August) in Canton? settle the fark down, people. Matt Stafford is the #1 passing yards QB int eh NFL in only his 4th year, pretty sure no one is slobbing his knob re "passing the torch" and he's a young QB. Give Luck time. 9/5 is a lot. Both teams surrender 21.3 per, Pats obviously score more....Gonna pick IND to cover. And the over. 35-31, 38-32.


yeeesh. 5-2. Pats by 35! 83 scored total. wow. highest total of year?


@ HOUS -15 JAX 40.5
Love these college football lines....Against better judgment, I'll pick a JAX cover. The number is fair, but.....it's just too much.

6-2. Texans by 6.



CIN -3 @ KC 43.5
Cin outright.

7-2.


NO -5.5 @ OAK 55
Also, I think this line should be higher; 6.5, maybe even 7. So since it is a shorter line IMO, I'll invoke my NFC South @ West Coast Theorem and pick OAK to cover. Yes i know NO is on a 4-1 run.


7-3. NO by 21. and 5-1 for NO. can they make it back to South relevance? Wild card?

@ DEN -8 SD 48
I'm gonna say SD cover.


8-3. Donks by 7.


BALT -3 @ Pittsburgh 40
Gotta say Balt outright.
and if that ends up being right (you see this coming, don't you), "tell them I had it first on Twitter."



gaaaah. it was 3 exactly, so that is a loss. 8-4. i thought they'd win by more. ehh.



@ SFO -6.5 CHI 37
Did I hear Cutler's out? and possibly Aaron Smith or whatever his name is too? I'll hold off until I read more about it.


and I was catastrophically wrong. i said CHI by 10.

8-5.
 
2012-11-20 05:28:39 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: I'm an embarrassment to Fark Football. How did I not know that?


Don't feel bad. I had that wrong as well.
 
2012-11-20 05:33:54 PM  

Dammit the Jake beat me! I've been slacking here, but working IRL boooooooooooooooo. Anyway. Graph 1!

i.imgur.com


Clicky poppy to bigger for those of you who are into that sort of thing.

Useless metadata that nobody cares about:

Change from Week 1 to this week :
One 20 point drops: Eagles
One 17 point jump: Colts

No teams ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE (back at their Week 1 rankings)

Number of times rankings have changed:
4 teams have changed every week: Chargers, Cowboys, Rams, Dolphins
1 team has moved thrice: Jaguars

Difference between high rank & low rank:
Lowest fluctuation: Jaguars with 2
Highest fluctuation: Vikings with 22
Average fluctuation: 10.84

Overall fluctuation travel:
Smallest: Jaguars with 4
Highest: Saints with 44

Teams hitting their highest rank this week: Buccaneers
Teams hitting their lowest rank this week: Sad Eagles, Sad Chargers, & Sad Cardinals

-Cardinals hit their lowest rank this week. Their previous lowest rank was in week 1
-Redskins had their lowest rank in week 1 & their highest in week 2 (24 & 15), the only team to have their high/low in consecutive weeks.
-For the 4th consecutive week, the Eagles have hit their lowest ranking of the year

Twelve teams did not change rank: F'ing lazy bums

Five teams have held the #1 spot
 
2012-11-20 05:34:50 PM  
I was reading a stat that no rookie QB has gone into Foxborough and won since 1996. Knowing that, I don't think the Colts should feel too crushed - they win 3 more games, and I think they're automatically in the playoffs. Of course, they're going to get massacred in the first round, but it will make for a nice Cinderella story.
 
2012-11-20 05:38:42 PM  

Shaggy_C: I was reading a stat that no rookie QB has gone into Foxborough and won since 1996. Knowing that, I don't think the Colts should feel too crushed - they win 3 more games, and I think they're automatically in the playoffs. Of course, they're going to get massacred in the first round, but it will make for a nice Cinderella story.


I think the funniest thing I heard about that game was "Andrew Luck was in the 6th grade when Brady won his first Super Bowl"

My girlfriend turned to me and goes "Wow, that just made me feel old"
 
2012-11-20 05:41:29 PM  

rickythepenguin: ***snip***

@ SFO -6.5 CHI 37
Did I hear Cutler's out? and possibly Aaron Smith or whatever his name is too? I'll hold off until I read more about it.


I can help you out on that one. Alex Smith is the QB that was taken in 2005 by the 49ers. They passed over Aaron Rodgers, who was subsequently taken by the Packers.

///Just looked it up on Wikipedia, 2005 was one helluva draft. From Alex Smith at #1 through Ryan Fitzpatrick at #250.
 
2012-11-20 05:45:14 PM  
Cardinals and Eagles are on the same trajectory. Which will hit the ground and explode, first?
 
2012-11-20 05:49:18 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Cardinals and Eagles are on the same trajectory. Which will hit the ground and explode, first?


why cant they go together?
 
2012-11-20 05:53:20 PM  

NEDM: NEDM: Treygreen13: 2. Illegally kicking a ball out of bounds is a penalty of 10 yards and Loss of Down. This rule was changed this season to add the loss of down. I'm not sure why. If anyone can remember an occasion where a team illegally kicking a ball out of bounds benefited them lately, let me know.


There's a popular .gif of Mark Sanchez kicking a fumble out of the back of his own endzone to save a TD. That was probably one of the reason the rule got changed.

This one, to be specific.

However, I was wrong. That was from this year, so it was unlikely to have sparked that rulechange.


It is also a safety and loss of possession, so the down doesn't count.
 
2012-11-20 05:57:22 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: libranoelrose: [i.imgur.com image 390x220]

I heart that gif.

/Worst 1-2-3 QB punch ever
//Team Blackout!


Yup. Chiefs fans are fed up.
 
2012-11-20 06:16:07 PM  
Actually, I think the Bears game last night proved that Cutler isn't the Bears problem as much as their offensive line thinks that they are tour guides to the backfield, and that it doesn't matter who you put back there at QB (or worse, at WR), when it always looks like there's members of the opponent's defense lining up to take a handoff.
 
2012-11-20 06:19:33 PM  
The Bears are too damn high! I would have put them 8-10. They might make the playoffs, but I can't see them winning more than one game.
 
2012-11-20 06:33:17 PM  
The Jaguars have flatlined.
 
2012-11-20 06:38:09 PM  
Iggles keep dropping... 

www.can-con.ca
 
2012-11-20 06:38:57 PM  
If the Ravens lose any more players, they're going to start Matt Weiters as a TE.
 
2012-11-20 06:44:16 PM  

Treygreen13: 1. Oakland Raiders - 33.9% of their plays this season are running plays - one might think that with Carson Palmer and a receiving corps that most people outside fantasy couldn't name with a gun to their head, you'd think they'd try to run a bit. But they aren't.


The Raiders can't keep a RB healthy long enough to try running more. I think they are on their 4th-stringer or something.
 
2012-11-20 06:48:12 PM  
Packers' remaining schedule
@Giants
Vikings
Lions
@Bears
Titans
@Vikings

Falcons' remaining schedule
@Bucs
Saints
@Panthers
Giants
@Lions
Bucs

Both end up 12-4
 
2012-11-20 06:58:12 PM  

Treygreen13: 1. Oakland Raiders - 33.9% of their plays this season are running plays - one might think that with Carson Palmer and a receiving corps that most people outside fantasy couldn't name with a gun to their head, you'd think they'd try to run a bit. But they aren't.


DA GREATNESS OF DA RAIDUHS IS IN DA VERTICAL PASSING GAME!!!
 
2012-11-20 06:59:19 PM  

robbiex0r: Both end up 12-4


ESPN has their playoff maker up in case you wanted to map that out:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine?2012
 
2012-11-20 07:01:19 PM  

Bunny Deville: The Jaguars have flatlined.


right after their dead cat bounce
 
2012-11-20 07:06:01 PM  

Bunny Deville: The Jaguars have flatlined.


At least you guys have someone to feel superior to.
 
2012-11-20 07:17:47 PM  
Not drunk this week, but I'm still putting my Bengals in the playoffs. It would be the first time in 30 years they've made the playoffs in consecutive years.

The Bengals are in the same place as the hyped Saints, but the Bengals are in a weaker conference with an easier schedule.

Cowboys & @Pittsburgh are the tough games left and I still believe the Ravens will be resting in Week 17. Eagles, Chargers, & Raiders round out the schedule.

And no I don't believe in the Colts and never have.

/farking Miami loss
 
2012-11-20 07:23:11 PM  

bionicjoe: Not drunk this week, but I'm still putting my Bengals in the playoffs. It would be the first time in 30 years they've made the playoffs in consecutive years.

The Bengals are in the same place as the hyped Saints, but the Bengals are in a weaker conference with an easier schedule.

Cowboys & @Pittsburgh are the tough games left and I still believe the Ravens will be resting in Week 17. Eagles, Chargers, & Raiders round out the schedule.

And no I don't believe in the Colts and never have.

/farking Miami loss


The Bengals definitely have an 'up-and-coming' vibe to me. As a Ravens fan, that worries me. We don't need three good teams in the division.
 
2012-11-20 07:25:43 PM  
Di Atribe, don't forget GRAF TOO. The numbers are already there for you, have been since Monday night's game went clownshoes.

Now that the epoch of byes is over, The Great Tiebreaker Spreadsheet makes it full season debut... sometime tonight.
 
2012-11-20 07:27:04 PM  

bionicjoe: Not drunk this week, but I'm still putting my Bengals in the playoffs. It would be the first time in 30 years they've made the playoffs in consecutive years.

The Bengals are in the same place as the hyped Saints, but the Bengals are in a weaker conference with an easier schedule.

Cowboys & @Pittsburgh are the tough games left and I still believe the Ravens will be resting in Week 17. Eagles, Chargers, & Raiders round out the schedule.

And no I don't believe in the Colts and never have.

/farking Miami loss


want to argue, but that seems legit, especially with rberger out.
 
2012-11-20 08:07:12 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com

Shiat, I forgot to color Carolina and Jacksonville orange; they cannot win their divisions. I will look into what sites I can use that will allow me to post these screenshots (1) for free, (2) clearly, (3) without having to do a lot of work.

No divisions that can be clinched this week, but four divisions feature a team with a 3 game lead and 6 to go, so Week 13 is likely to be when green and purple start making their way onto the chart. The tie will require only minimal reprogramming of the spreadsheet, partly to make it realize that 0.5-0.5 is not a completed and tied home-and-away, partly to make it realize that 1.5-0.5 is a completed and won home-and-away.
 
2012-11-20 08:08:31 PM  

bionicjoe: Cowboys & @Pittsburgh are the tough games left and I still believe the Ravens will be resting in Week 17. Eagles, Chargers, & Raiders round out the schedule.


It looks like an easy road on paper, but I'm still leery of the Bengals' ability to win the games they're supposed to win. All they need is one bad loss, and the Colts or even one of the 4-6 teams could end up stealing the wildcard on a tiebreaker. Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of reason to be hopeful, but at the same time, well, Bungles gonna bungle.
 
2012-11-20 08:16:17 PM  
justpredictions.webs.com

Here is a strength of SCHEDULE graph. This is similar in two important ways and yet differs in three important ways from Di's GRAF TOO.
Similarity #1: It tells you about what quality teams have played; who's had a cakewalk, and who's had the road of pain.
Difference #1: It averages the record of all teams each of these squads has PLAYED. Di's only includes the teams each squad has BEATEN.
Similarity #2: I crunch the numbers, via a tab in my TGTBSS file.
Difference #2: The axes are different. The better record you are, the further to the right; the harder the schedule, the higher up. NE corner means you've played well against a tough schedule, SW corner means you've sucked against teams that themselves sucked (lookin' at you, Chargers).
Difference #3: I don't spend the time making fancy icons for each team. I consider it the bare minimum to move the team tags around so they don't overlap.
 
2012-11-20 08:29:32 PM  

INeedAName: three good teams in the division.


I honestly think the Stihlers dynasty is on its way down so I wouldn't worry for too long. Yeah I know the majority of their losses seemingly stem from injury, but I think their core players are past their prime.
 
2012-11-20 08:34:43 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Cardinals and Eagles are on the same trajectory. Which will hit the ground and explode, first?


I'm hoping for the Eagles.


/Eagles fan.
//Hopes Foles plays better so they don't think they have to draft a QB this year
///because from what I can tell, this year's QB draft class sucks
////Just say no to Matt Barkley.
 
2012-11-20 09:31:02 PM  

basemetal: /it's hard to be a Raiders fan


I've hated the Raiders for a lot of years, but I have to respect their remaining fanbase. From PSLs, to Al Davis' dumbfarkery, to retarded coaches, y'all are forced to root for a pale shadow of what used to be one of the greatest teams ever.

I'll still never forgive Al Davis for farking up the Coliseum for baseball.
 
2012-11-20 09:39:23 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: basemetal: /it's hard to be a Raiders fan

I've hated the Raiders for a lot of years, but I have to respect their remaining fanbase. From PSLs, to Al Davis' dumbfarkery, to retarded coaches, y'all are forced to root for a pale shadow of what used to be one of the greatest teams ever.

I'll still never forgive Al Davis for farking up the Coliseum for baseball.


Nor should you ever. It was a round Dodger Stadium before he destroyed it, as far as I'm concerned.
 
2012-11-20 09:46:57 PM  

RminusQ: [24.media.tumblr.com image 850x397]

Shiat, I forgot to color Carolina and Jacksonville orange; they cannot win their divisions. I will look into what sites I can use that will allow me to post these screenshots (1) for free, (2) clearly, (3) without having to do a lot of work.

No divisions that can be clinched this week, but four divisions feature a team with a 3 game lead and 6 to go, so Week 13 is likely to be when green and purple start making their way onto the chart. The tie will require only minimal reprogramming of the spreadsheet, partly to make it realize that 0.5-0.5 is not a completed and tied home-and-away, partly to make it realize that 1.5-0.5 is a completed and won home-and-away.


Also the Texans can clinch a playoff spot this week if they win, Titans lose (at JAX), Dolphins lose (vs SEA), Bills lose(at IND), Bengals lose (vs Oakland), and then either Pit (at CLE) or San Diego (vs BAL) lose

/not very likely, but possibly clinching a playoff berth thanksgiving week is ridiculous
 
2012-11-20 10:38:15 PM  

RminusQ: [justpredictions.webs.com image 737x541]

Here is a strength of SCHEDULE graph. This is similar in two important ways and yet differs in three important ways from Di's GRAF TOO.
Similarity #1: It tells you about what quality teams have played; who's had a cakewalk, and who's had the road of pain.
Difference #1: It averages the record of all teams each of these squads has PLAYED. Di's only includes the teams each squad has BEATEN.
Similarity #2: I crunch the numbers, via a tab in my TGTBSS file.
Difference #2: The axes are different. The better record you are, the further to the right; the harder the schedule, the higher up. NE corner means you've played well against a tough schedule, SW corner means you've sucked against teams that themselves sucked (lookin' at you, Chargers).
Difference #3: I don't spend the time making fancy icons for each team. I consider it the bare minimum to move the team tags around so they don't overlap.


I salute you!

Now that formalities are out of the way, WHAR Di's GRAF 2?!?!? WHAR?!??!?!
 
2012-11-20 10:52:03 PM  

RminusQ: [justpredictions.webs.com image 737x541]

Here is a strength of SCHEDULE graph. This is similar in two important ways and yet differs in three important ways from Di's GRAF TOO.
Similarity #1: It tells you about what quality teams have played; who's had a cakewalk, and who's had the road of pain.
Difference #1: It averages the record of all teams each of these squads has PLAYED. Di's only includes the teams each squad has BEATEN.
Similarity #2: I crunch the numbers, via a tab in my TGTBSS file.
Difference #2: The axes are different. The better record you are, the further to the right; the harder the schedule, the higher up. NE corner means you've played well against a tough schedule, SW corner means you've sucked against teams that themselves sucked (lookin' at you, Chargers).
Difference #3: I don't spend the time making fancy icons for each team. I consider it the bare minimum to move the team tags around so they don't overlap.


Awesome, let's ditch Di's graf
 
2012-11-20 11:25:13 PM  

neuroflare: RminusQ: ***snip***

Awesome, let's ditch Di's graf


24.media.tumblr.com

Oh HELL NAW!!!
 
2012-11-20 11:33:54 PM  
I think we need a power ranking for the things posted in the weekly power rankings threads.
 
2012-11-20 11:41:15 PM  

roc6783: neuroflare: RminusQ: ***snip***

Awesome, let's ditch Di's graf

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x376]

Oh HELL NAW!!!


I keed, yeesh!
 
2012-11-20 11:42:49 PM  

robsul82: Friends...


i1182.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-20 11:48:59 PM  

VvonderJesus: I think we need a power ranking for the things posted in the weekly power rankings threads.


1. The Jake
2. PONIES!
3-32. Everything Else
 
2012-11-21 12:10:40 AM  

neuroflare: roc6783: neuroflare: RminusQ: ***snip***

Awesome, let's ditch Di's graf

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x376]

Oh HELL NAW!!!

I keed, yeesh!


Get it straight buster - I'm not here to say please, I'm here to tell you what to do and if self-preservation is an instinct you possess you'd better farking do it and do it quick. I'm here to help - if my help's not appreciated then lotsa luck, gentlemen.

No, Mr. roc6783, it ain't like that, your help is definitely appreciated.

I don't mean any disrespect, I just don't like people barking orders at me.

If I'm curt with you it's because time is a factor. I think fast, I talk fast and I need you guys to act fast if you wanna get out of this. So, pretty please... with sugar on top. Post the farking GRAF.
 
2012-11-21 12:17:29 AM  

neuroflare: Awesome, let's ditch Di's graf


I think not
 
2012-11-21 12:20:38 AM  

neuroflare: roc6783: neuroflare: RminusQ: ***snip***

Awesome, let's ditch Di's graf

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x376]

Oh HELL NAW!!!

I keed, yeesh!


Providing the numbers for Di GRAF TOO is my eternal penance for when I met her at The Great Chicago Fark Party and the first thing I said to her was "Fark the Cowboys!" It also builds up good will, so that the next time I see her at some gigantic Fark Party, I can re-start things on the right foot by saying "No, seriously, fark the Cowboys!"
 
2012-11-21 12:44:19 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: VvonderJesus: I think we need a power ranking for the things posted in the weekly power rankings threads.

1. The Jake
2. PONIES!
3-32. Everything Else


Blasphemy, how dare you ignore GRAFS and guy who posts humourous summary of his predictions and outcomes in pretty red and green while moaning that nobody reads them. Oh, and WHAR JAKE!!!!! WHAR GRAFS!!!!!! posts deserve a mention.
 
2012-11-21 03:19:56 AM  

INeedAName: bionicjoe: Not drunk this week, but I'm still putting my Bengals in the playoffs. It would be the first time in 30 years they've made the playoffs in consecutive years.

The Bengals are in the same place as the hyped Saints, but the Bengals are in a weaker conference with an easier schedule.

Cowboys & @Pittsburgh are the tough games left and I still believe the Ravens will be resting in Week 17. Eagles, Chargers, & Raiders round out the schedule.

And no I don't believe in the Colts and never have.

/farking Miami loss

The Bengals definitely have an 'up-and-coming' vibe to me. As a Ravens fan, that worries me. We don't need three good teams in the division.


Don't worry, it will be just one in a year or two.

/Pitt and Balt are old and suck
 
2012-11-21 04:43:29 AM  

dywed88: Olympic Trolling Judge: VvonderJesus: I think we need a power ranking for the things posted in the weekly power rankings threads.

1. The Jake
2. PONIES!
3-32. Everything Else

Blasphemy, how dare you ignore GRAFS and guy who posts humourous summary of his predictions and outcomes in pretty red and green while moaning that nobody reads them. Oh, and WHAR JAKE!!!!! WHAR GRAFS!!!!!! posts deserve a mention.


Plus the rookie, but up-and-coming obscure trivia. The list as as follows:

1. The Jake.
2. Di's GRAF
3. RQ's Playoff Chart
4. Di's GRAF TOO
5. RQ's GRAF
6. Trivia
7. Harv's predictions
8. rtp's predictions
9. Trivia answers
10. OTJ's list of teams
11. WHAR JAKE WHAR?!
12. WHAR GRAF WHAR!?
13. WHAR GRAF TOO WHAR!?
14. X Team is TOO DAMN HIGH!

/That said WHAR GRAF TOO WHAR!?
 
2012-11-21 07:04:22 AM  

Neeek: dywed88: Olympic Trolling Judge: VvonderJesus: I think we need a power ranking for the things posted in the weekly power rankings threads.

1. The Jake
2. PONIES!
3-32. Everything Else

Blasphemy, how dare you ignore GRAFS and guy who posts humourous summary of his predictions and outcomes in pretty red and green while moaning that nobody reads them. Oh, and WHAR JAKE!!!!! WHAR GRAFS!!!!!! posts deserve a mention.

Plus the rookie, but up-and-coming obscure trivia. The list as as follows:

1. The Jake.
2. Di's GRAF
3. RQ's Playoff Chart
4. Di's GRAF TOO
5. RQ's GRAF
6. Trivia
7. Harv's predictions
8. rtp's predictions
9. Trivia answers
10. OTJ's list of teams
11. WHAR JAKE WHAR?!
12. WHAR GRAF WHAR!?
13. WHAR GRAF TOO WHAR!?
14. X Team is TOO DAMN HIGH!

/That said WHAR GRAF TOO WHAR!?


This.
 
2012-11-21 10:03:53 AM  

Neeek: dywed88: Olympic Trolling Judge: VvonderJesus: ***snip***
Plus the rookie, but up-and-coming obscure trivia. The list as as follows:

1. The Jake.
2. Di's GRAF
3. RQ's Playoff Chart
4. Di's GRAF TOO
5. RQ's GRAF
6. Trivia
7. OTJ's list of teams
8. Harv's predictions
9. rtp's predictions
10. Trivia answers
11. WHAR JAKE WHAR?!
12. WHAR GRAF WHAR!?
13. WHAR GRAF TOO WHAR!?
14. Trap Game
15. X Team is TOO DAMN HIGH!

/That said WHAR GRAF TOO WHAR!?


Your list was near perfect, but I am biased toward useless data so I had to move up OTJ's ranking, and what PR thread would be complete without at least one trap game?
 
2012-11-21 10:38:22 AM  

Neeek: dywed88: Olympic Trolling Judge: VvonderJesus: I think we need a power ranking for the things posted in the weekly power rankings threads.

1. The Jake
2. PONIES!
3-32. Everything Else

Blasphemy, how dare you ignore GRAFS and guy who posts humourous summary of his predictions and outcomes in pretty red and green while moaning that nobody reads them. Oh, and WHAR JAKE!!!!! WHAR GRAFS!!!!!! posts deserve a mention.

Plus the rookie, but up-and-coming obscure trivia. The list as as follows:

1. The Jake.
2. Di's GRAF
3. RQ's Playoff Chart
4. Di's GRAF TOO
5. RQ's GRAF
6. Trivia
7. Harv's predictions
8. rtp's predictions
9. Trivia answers
10. OTJ's list of teams
11. WHAR JAKE WHAR?!
12. WHAR GRAF WHAR!?
13. WHAR GRAF TOO WHAR!?
14. X Team is TOO DAMN HIGH!

/That said WHAR GRAF TOO WHAR!?


Forgot the playoff chart. But I would put it fairly low in the rankings, should rise rapidly over the next couple weeks as the picture really starts to form. Also, Harv's predictions #2. Otherwise I pretty much agree.
 
2012-11-21 12:03:48 PM  

dywed88: guy who posts humourous summary of his predictions and outcomes in pretty red and green while moaning that nobody reads them


Oddly enough, that's exactly the script name of my character in the autobiographical movie of my life.
 
2012-11-21 12:12:06 PM  

roc6783: PR thread would be complete without at least one trap game?



will they never learn?
 
2012-11-21 12:26:22 PM  

Harv72b: dywed88: guy who posts humourous summary of his predictions and outcomes in pretty red and green while moaning that nobody reads them

Oddly enough, that's exactly the script name of my character in the autobiographical movie of my life.


I thought it was Cocksman Hugh Johnson? Or is that just your pen's name?

rickythepenguin: roc6783: PR thread would be complete without at least one trap game?


will they never learn?


I know, there is a very specific set of circumstances that define a trap game, which results in only about 1 or 2 a week at most in the NFL. Just because the 4-5 Cowboys were playing the 2-7 Browns, everyone was thinking "trap game", but it just doesn't fit because the Cowboys were at home, plus they were only favored by 7 and the home team already gets 3, so really only a 4 point favorite at home. Definitely not a trap game. But, if you look at Bengals at Chiefs? Classic trap game.
 
2012-11-21 12:28:16 PM  

roc6783: Harv72b: dywed88: guy who posts humourous summary of his predictions and outcomes in pretty red and green while moaning that nobody reads them

Oddly enough, that's exactly the script name of my character in the autobiographical movie of my life.

I thought it was Cocksman Hugh Johnson? Or is that just your pen's name?

rickythepenguin: roc6783: PR thread would be complete without at least one trap game?


will they never learn?

I know, there is a very specific set of circumstances that define a trap game, which results in only about 1 or 2 a week at most in the NFL. Just because the 4-5 Cowboys were playing the 2-7 Browns, everyone was thinking "trap game", but it just doesn't fit because the Cowboys were at home, plus they were only favored by 7 and the home team already gets 3, so really only a 4 point favorite at home. Definitely not a trap game. But, if you look at Bengals at Chiefs? Classic trap game.


At least in my mind, one of the teams needs to be over .500 for there to be a "trap" game. The only trap in this game was if you were trapped watching it.
 
2012-11-21 12:34:09 PM  

Treygreen13: 2. Illegally kicking a ball out of bounds is a penalty of 10 yards and Loss of Down. This rule was changed this season to add the loss of down. I'm not sure why. If anyone can remember an occasion where a team illegally kicking a ball out of bounds benefited them lately, let me know.


I can't recall any particular scenario in an NFL game, but without the loss of down you could go for it on fourth, and if you won't make a first, just make an illegal kick to force a penalty, and then punt instead.
So you could make a legitimate attempt at a pass or on 4th down where the ball carrier/QB sees they won't make first down, so they do a quick kick. Or if you have a triple threat quarterback, you could line up in shotgun formation on 4th down to make it look like you're going for it, but then the QB could make a planned quick kick, or he could roll outside or toss a pitch which is then kicked by the ball carrier. I had one high school coach even toss out the idea of doing a quick kick on a 3rd and long situation where you knew you wouldn't get it, just to catch the defense off guard, and because you can always change to a pass/run depending on how the play develops.

Prior to the rule change, if one of these scenarios happened on 4th down, and the kick was illegal because either it was beyond the line of scrimmage when kicked, or any offensive players other than the two receivers on the end of the line of scrimmage went down field, you simply got backed up 10 yards, and then could make a legitimate punt. Essentially you got a free shot at 4th down conversions as long as the QB/RB had the thought to make an illegal kick to replay the down.
 
2012-11-21 12:39:58 PM  

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Prior to the rule change, if one of these scenarios happened on 4th down, and the kick was illegal because either it was beyond the line of scrimmage when kicked, or any offensive players other than the two receivers on the end of the line of scrimmage went down field, you simply got backed up 10 yards, and then could make a legitimate punt. Essentially you got a free shot at 4th down conversions as long as the QB/RB had the thought to make an illegal kick to replay the down.



I can't recall the last time a quick kick happened in the NFL.....Jerry Glanville did it a few times with the Falcons but that was in like, 1992. literally twenty years ago. i somewhat recall one in college (and I think a bowl game at that) maybe a decade ago but....the NFL?

running to google....
 
2012-11-21 12:42:10 PM  

rickythepenguin: I can't recall the last time a quick kick happened in the NFL.....Jerry Glanville did it a few times with the Falcons but that was in like, 1992. literally twenty years ago. i somewhat recall one in college (and I think a bowl game at that) maybe a decade ago but....the NFL?



Form wiki

Quick kicks are relatively rare in American football, but they have never completely disappeared. Quarterback Randall Cunningham made 20 quick kicks during his career, including one of the longest punts in NFL history, 91 yards, in 1989. [correction: while Cunningham occasionally did quick kick, this was not a quick kick. The Eagles' punter had been injured and it was a standard 4th down punt] [1]Bear Bryant was known to have used this on third downs when up big or as Kenny Stabler once said "I wanted to see how our defense could do". [2] Another, more recent example is that of Kellen Moore of Boise State University against Louisiana Tech on October 26, 2010, when Moore delivered a 54-yard punt. [3] New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady performed a quick kick punt on 3rd & 10 in the final quarter of a blowout against the Denver Broncos, in the divisional round of the AFC playoffs, on January 14th, 2012.[4]

wow. I have no memory of the Pats doing that, barely 10 months ago.

i'm certain glanville did that but wiki doesn't refelct it. ehh.
 
2012-11-21 12:45:38 PM  

dletter: roc6783: Harv72b: dywed88: ***snip***

At least in my mind, one of the teams needs to be over .500 for there to be a "trap" game. The only trap in this game was if you were trapped watching it.


You are part of the precipitate, not the solution.
 
2012-11-21 12:51:05 PM  

rickythepenguin: rickythepenguin: ***snip***


Not sure if it counts as a "quick kick", but Roethlisberger punted against the Bengals earlier this season. Link
 
2012-11-21 12:58:09 PM  
I had forgotten about that too. But, Belicheck actually had a reason for doing it, he didn't want to run a punt as more people on teh line of scrimmage more chance for injury when you have won the last game of the regular season.

Some Donkeys were not impressed, though. And if you want to start a fight, don't do it on the sideline right in front of the other team's bench.
 
2012-11-21 01:06:53 PM  

RminusQ: don't forget GRAF TOO. The numbers are already there for you, have been since Monday night's game went clownshoes.


I'm so sorry. I let it slip last week & this week..... schedules are all crazy & friends are coming into town and I have stayed out late & drinking the past 2 nights..... or was it 3? Uh..... yeah so I'm making it now. Please stand by. (also LOL @ "farking ties)


neuroflare: Awesome, let's ditch Di's graf


HEY!


RminusQ: Providing the numbers for Di GRAF TOO is my eternal penance for when I met her at The Great Chicago Fark Party and the first thing I said to her was "Fark the Cowboys!" It also builds up good will, so that the next time I see her at some gigantic Fark Party, I can re-start things on the right foot by saying "No, seriously, fark the Cowboys!"


I hope the Packers make mincemeat out of the stoopid G'aints on Sunday. They suck & smell of elderberries!
 
2012-11-21 01:06:53 PM  

roc6783: rickythepenguin: rickythepenguin: ***snip***

Not sure if it counts as a "quick kick", but Roethlisberger punted against the Bengals earlier this season. Link


I would say it counts as a quick kick because, although it was on fourth down, it was essentially the same thing. An unexpected punt from a normal offensive formation (shotgun).
 
2012-11-21 01:07:47 PM  
Seriously? A simulpost at this point in the thread? Waaaaaaaaaaaacky!
 
2012-11-21 01:17:28 PM  

dywed88: I would say it counts as a quick kick because, although it was on fourth down, it was essentially the same thing. An unexpected punt from a normal offensive formation (shotgun).



i would say no since "quick kick" (as far as i know, not defined by rule) means a kick when the defense is not expecting it, implying not on 4th down. i guess a 4th and, you know, 3 situation with QB in shotgun then punting could be termed a quick kcik, but....i still say no.

ultimtaely who cares.

having watched the Pats/Donks quick kick, i have no memeory of that. i can only think i must have turned the game off.


Di Atribe: neuroflare: Awesome, let's ditch Di's graf

HEY



i guess my rankings for NFL threads:
1) making my picks and recapping them
2) Di's graphs
3) bronies
4) i guess that's it. the jake thing never did it for me, harv and i do the same thing with the broad exception he goes straight up and i go by the spread. similar but different.

the NFL thread is one of fark's great pleasures. i can go without TF / TFD for months on end, but i cant stand nto being in front of a computer on a fall sunday morning.
 
2012-11-21 01:18:23 PM  

Di Atribe: RminusQ: don't forget GRAF TOO. The numbers are already there for you, have been since Monday night's game went clownshoes.

I'm so sorry. I let it slip last week & this week..... schedules are all crazy & friends are coming into town and I have stayed out late & drinking the past 2 nights..... or was it 3? Uh..... yeah so I'm making it now. Please stand by. (also LOL @ "farking ties)


Rule 76: No excuses, play like a champion. Cowboys Corollary: Don't be Dez, Di, don't be Dez.


***snip***
I hope the Packers make mincemeat out of the stoopid G'aints on Sunday. They suck & smell of elderberries!


Me too, me too.
 
2012-11-21 01:19:34 PM  

rickythepenguin: 3) bronies



i don't know why they fascinate me, and i'm a recent bandwagon for the brony thing but....yeah......both because they're just weird but also the hate they generate.

disclaimer: not a brony.
 
2012-11-21 01:20:22 PM  

roc6783: I thought it was Cocksman Hugh Johnson? Or is that just your pen's name?


No, I call my pen "Inky". ;p
 
2012-11-21 01:23:55 PM  

rickythepenguin: harv and i do the same thing with the broad exception he goes straight up and i go by the spread. similar but different.


But I use colors!
 
2012-11-21 01:27:21 PM  

roc6783: Rule 76: No excuses, play like a champion. Cowboys Corollary: Don't be Dez, Di, don't be Dez.



it is strange how compelling the boys/WASH game is, given each's record. but the NFC East is just so down. teams are a combined, what, 9-11 (?), but.....it could matter for the East.

haven't looked at NYG's schedule but.....I don't know. who knows.
 
2012-11-21 01:28:55 PM  

roc6783: Rule 76: No excuses, play like a champion. Cowboys Corollary: Don't be Dez, Di, don't be Dez.


Hey, he played alright on Sunday! However, overall, yes. Showing up on gameday & playing like the superstar I am is something I need to be more consistent with.


rickythepenguin: the NFL thread is one of fark's great pleasures. i can go without TF / TFD for months on end, but i cant stand nto being in front of a computer on a fall sunday morning.


I totally agree. Sometimes I go watch the game with my friends & I'll miss the thread, but I try to check in at some point. I have all these jokes saved up, you know? I can't ask my IRL friends who's in the lead for the Jake! My IRL friends don't sing "DOINK" in unison every time someone doinks a FGA! I've said it a million times & I'll keep saying it: the football peeps in this here sports tab are the best. And I'm done kissin y'alls asses. Maybe if I get drunk again tonight, I'll come back & effusively praise you all individually.

Whatevs. GRAF TOO!

i.imgur.com


Poppy pop to the grande size

I also take great pride in arranging the labels for readability.
 
2012-11-21 01:32:23 PM  

rickythepenguin: haven't looked at NYG's schedule but.....I don't know. who knows.


I've looked at it & I've come to a very important conclusion: Giants suck.
 
2012-11-21 01:57:13 PM  

Di Atribe: roc6783: ***snip***

And I'm done kissin y'alls asses. Maybe if I get drunk again tonight, I'll come back & effusively praise you all individually.


Just remember, herpes is forever.

Whatevs. GRAF TOO!

[i.imgur.com image 850x588]

Poppy pop to the grande size

I also take great pride in arranging the labels for readability.


Haha, NE is already kissing GB's ass. Good times, good times.
 
2012-11-21 02:36:45 PM  

rickythepenguin: Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Prior to the rule change, if one of these scenarios happened on 4th down, and the kick was illegal because either it was beyond the line of scrimmage when kicked, or any offensive players other than the two receivers on the end of the line of scrimmage went down field, you simply got backed up 10 yards, and then could make a legitimate punt. Essentially you got a free shot at 4th down conversions as long as the QB/RB had the thought to make an illegal kick to replay the down.


I can't recall the last time a quick kick happened in the NFL.....Jerry Glanville did it a few times with the Falcons but that was in like, 1992. literally twenty years ago. i somewhat recall one in college (and I think a bowl game at that) maybe a decade ago but....the NFL?

running to google....


Also consider that even in normal punts, it makes the penalty for trying to sneak extra gunners down field very severe.
 
2012-11-21 03:37:00 PM  

Di Atribe: My IRL friends don't sing "DOINK" in unison every time someone doinks a FGA!


there are people in this world who don't do that? what the hell?
 
2012-11-21 04:39:27 PM  

Di Atribe: Whatevs. GRAF TOO!

[i.imgur.com image 850x588]


Ooh, pretty. They all fit neatly on the lines this week, like abacus beads. Except SF and STL. Fark those guys.
 
2012-11-21 04:57:46 PM  

Di Atribe: Overall fluctuation travel:
Smallest: Jaguars with 4
Highest: Saints with 44


SONS OF B*TCHES WITH THE NOT MOVING US FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE WEEKS COST US OUR "WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO RANK THEM!" TITLE
 
2012-11-21 06:02:13 PM  

RminusQ: there are people in this world who don't do that? what the hell?


Not like you guys. Nobody does it like you guys.


Olympic Trolling Judge: Ooh, pretty. They all fit neatly on the lines this week, like abacus beads. Except SF and STL. Fark those guys.


Seriously, they ruin everything!


IAmRight: SONS OF B*TCHES WITH THE NOT MOVING US FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE WEEKS COST US OUR "WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO RANK THEM!" TITLE


You have to admit.... the Saints are REALLY confusing this year. Like.... watching Pulp Fiction the first time sort of confusing.
 
2012-11-21 06:32:33 PM  

Di Atribe: You have to admit.... the Saints are REALLY confusing this year. Like.... watching Pulp Fiction the first time sort of confusing.


Memento the first time confusing?
 
2012-11-21 08:40:38 PM  

Neeek: Di Atribe: You have to admit.... the Saints are REALLY confusing this year. Like.... watching Pulp Fiction the first time sort of confusing.

Memento the first time confusing?


I haven't seen Memento yet! But I've heard it's a bit of a mind-fark. So yeah, like that!
 
2012-11-21 08:57:40 PM  

Harv72b: dywed88: guy who posts humourous summary of his predictions and outcomes in pretty red and green while moaning that nobody reads them

Oddly enough, that's exactly the script name of my character in the autobiographical movie of my life.


It is one of the highlights of the Jake thread. Er, Power Ranking thread.
 
2012-11-21 09:57:18 PM  

Di Atribe: Neeek: Di Atribe: You have to admit.... the Saints are REALLY confusing this year. Like.... watching Pulp Fiction the first time sort of confusing.

Memento the first time confusing?

I haven't seen Memento yet! But I've heard it's a bit of a mind-fark. So yeah, like that!


He's dead the whole time. Sorry.
 
2012-11-21 10:54:15 PM  

davidphogan: It is one of the highlights of the Jake thread. Er, Power Ranking thread.


Um, pretty sure it's the graph thread, buddy.


roc6783: He's dead the whole time. Sorry.


Looks like I don't have to watch it now. Thanks, roc!
 
2012-11-22 12:31:25 AM  

Di Atribe: davidphogan: It is one of the highlights of the Jake thread. Er, Power Ranking thread.

Um, pretty sure it's the graph thread, buddy.


roc6783: He's dead the whole time. Sorry.

Looks like I don't have to watch it now. Thanks, roc!


I assumed I had worn out my whar graf whar? by now.
 
2012-11-22 12:37:13 AM  

davidphogan: I assumed I had worn out my whar graf whar? by now.


NEVER

Well. It never gets old to me, anyway. :)
 
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