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(ESPN)   The Bears are who we thought they were, the Colts may want to reconsider playoffs, and the Jets play to win the game. This is your OFFICIAL Week 12 Power Rankings Thread   (espn.go.com) divider line 197
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2012-11-20 04:55:50 PM

Rwa2play: Sorry, but the 49ers should own the #1 spot in beating the holy hell out of "Da Bears" while the Falcons and Texans struggled to beat bad-to-mediocre teams at home.


Yes but the Texans defense did not plan for Henne. They planned and prepared for Gabbert. The worst thing the Texans did was knock Gabbert out.

And "Da Bears" are not a very good team. Excellent defense, but horrible offense. If the defense doesn't bring it, they will lose.
 
2012-11-20 04:55:56 PM

HaywoodJablonski: I'm an embarrassment to Fark Football. How did I not know that?


There was enough confusion this week that I take it on me that I apparently farked up and created the impression without intending to that the winner's exemption was only a tiebreaker and not a DQ-no-matter-the-score. So that's Me, Delhomme RatingTM - 16.7.
 
2012-11-20 05:06:30 PM

roc6783: The Bears are a mess, and i love it.


: cries

dletter: The Bears are not that much better than last years edition, especially without Cutler.


: cries more

roc6783: 5 in a row, #1 in the NFC NORTH BIATCHES!!!!11!1!!1!!! Bears and Quitler fans can EABOD


: gives roc the finger

Electromax: I wouldn't put much weight on beating the rapidly fading Bears.


: sobs uncontrollably
 
2012-11-20 05:07:18 PM

scottydoesntknow: Yes but the Texans defense did not plan for Henne. They planned and prepared for Gabbert. The worst thing the Texans did was knock Gabbert out.


They planned for one awful qb but instead had to face a different awful qb?... I'm not buying that one wholesale.

Farking blackmon, I'm tempted to pick you up now.
 
2012-11-20 05:07:30 PM
Treygreen13:

1. "Guess what I have behind my back!"
2. "You guys keep playing; I'm just going to chill here for awhile"
3. "Looks like we've got a badass over here"
 
2012-11-20 05:07:41 PM

scottydoesntknow: And "Da Bears" are not a very good team. Excellent defense, but horrible offense. If the defense doesn't bring it, they will lose.


This is actually one thing I'm wondering about last night's game: can we add "bad coaching" to the Bears' woes? It is pretty clear that they were terribly unprepared for Kaepernick giving the 49ers a viable passing attack, instead preparing for the assumption that the 49ers would play it safe and simply run the ball all the time and be content with a 9-3 puntfest. While they can probably be forgiven for that mistake (it was up in the air as to who would start for the Niners and Kaepernick had only shown flashes of his strong arm prior) the failure to adjust in any meaningful way as it became clear that the 49ers were making a serious effort to pass the ball just jumped out as a really bad coaching night for the Bears.
 
2012-11-20 05:08:57 PM

Cheesehead_Dave: 1. "Guess what I have behind my back!"


HA! Joke's on them! There's nothing behind my back!
 
2012-11-20 05:13:27 PM

robsul82: ***snip***


Good times, though I was looking for more Matty Ice vitriol, if only for the lulz.
 
2012-11-20 05:13:28 PM

thecpt: scottydoesntknow: Yes but the Texans defense did not plan for Henne. They planned and prepared for Gabbert. The worst thing the Texans did was knock Gabbert out.

They planned for one awful qb but instead had to face a different awful qb?... I'm not buying that one wholesale.

Farking blackmon, I'm tempted to pick you up now.


It's a completely different game plan and throwing style. Plus Henne didn't really have a chance to suck since he was knocked out at the beginning of the 2011 season. Apparently he learned a couple things while sitting on the IR list. I'm not saying he's awesome, but he's a hell of a lot better than Gabbert and he wanted to win last weekend.

Thank god the Texans can bring still bring it on offense if the defense decides to go to sleep (unlike Chicago).
 
2012-11-20 05:14:55 PM

Sapper_Topo: The Vikings should at least be in the top 10. No movement since last week and after watching the Bears last night I have this sneaking feeling that the Vikes will be knocking on the door to 1st in the NFC North sooner than later.


AHAHAHHHAAHAHA. HAHAHA. No.
 
2012-11-20 05:18:08 PM

robsul82: HaywoodJablonski: I'm an embarrassment to Fark Football. How did I not know that?

There was enough confusion this week that I take it on me that I apparently farked up and created the impression without intending to that the winner's exemption was only a tiebreaker and not a DQ-no-matter-the-score. So that's Me, Delhomme RatingTM - 16.7.


Don't be so hard on yourself. What are the odds that an outright Jake leader would get the winner's exemption? (No, seriously, what are they? Pro Football Reference doesn't make this stuff easy to look up.) It's not easy to remember a rule without seeing it in action. Like how ties surprise both teams when they happen, now that they only happen once every four or five years.
 
2012-11-20 05:20:00 PM

skrame: roc6783: The Bears are a mess, and i love it.

: cries

dletter: The Bears are not that much better than last years edition, especially without Cutler.

: cries more

roc6783: 5 in a row, #1 in the NFC NORTH BIATCHES!!!!11!1!!1!!! Bears and Quitler fans can EABOD

: gives roc the finger

Electromax: I wouldn't put much weight on beating the rapidly fading Bears.

: sobs uncontrollably


thatsonpoint.blogspot.com

You sustain me
 
2012-11-20 05:20:11 PM

libranoelrose: [i.imgur.com image 390x220]


I heart that gif.

/Worst 1-2-3 QB punch ever
//Team Blackout!
 
2012-11-20 05:22:01 PM

scottydoesntknow: but he's a hell of a lot better than Gabbert


welll....duh. I think Tebow is the only one on the list "Quarterbacks shiattier than Gabbert". I'm just saying its not like your switching from defending Kolb to defending a healthy Vick. The amount of points and yards they gave up was ridiculous.
 
2012-11-20 05:26:51 PM
@ WAS -3.5 PhI 44.5
going with WASH. Wash is 1-3 at home, PHI 1-3 OTR. Yeesh. I'll say WASH outright but who knows with either team. PHI was racking up some cheap wins early and wasn't WASH getting games ripped late? I'll say under. 21-13 type game.


1-0. Wash by 25.



GB -3 @ DET 52
GB should be favored by more. GB outright.

2-0. Pack by 4! narrow, but i'll take it.



@ ATL -9.5 Arizona 44
ATL of course is probbly pissed off after last week's finish and Arizona in dire need of a win (a loss today would six in a row) so I think the Redbirds come out with a chip on their shoulder.


3-0. 4 point loss. dammit. and you could say we did come out with the chip.



TB -1 @ Caro 48
TB desperately needs this game to have any shot at the South. While ATL has a three game lead, that isn't insurmountable with 7 games left. The proverbial "you have to beat the teams you're supposed to beat", and TB must beat CARO (also, how interesting does the South get if ARIZ heists a win and TB wins? That would give us ATL 6-2, TB 6-4 but TB with a better divisional record if they beat CARO.) TB outright.


4-0. TB by 6.


@ DAL -7.5 Cleveland 43.5
the INT bowl? The two most intercepted QBs in 2012. I'll say Cleveland covers as I don't think DAL deserves 7.5. The Star On the Helmet factor (which since i've been actively factoring it into my picks for approx a month, i don't think I've been wrong on it) in play as usual. this should be a 5, 5.5 line.

5-0. CB lost by 3.


@ STL -3.5 NY Jets 39
What an under.....Gonna pick STL outright. STL is 3-2 at home, Jets 1-3 OTR.

5-1. Jets by 14.



@ NE -9.5 Indianapolis 54
good lord, been sick of Luck v Brady storyline for days now. "THE PASSING OF THE TORCH?" settle down. Remember when we put Romo / Freeman / Newton / RGIII (after his second game) and Russell Wilson (in August) in Canton? settle the fark down, people. Matt Stafford is the #1 passing yards QB int eh NFL in only his 4th year, pretty sure no one is slobbing his knob re "passing the torch" and he's a young QB. Give Luck time. 9/5 is a lot. Both teams surrender 21.3 per, Pats obviously score more....Gonna pick IND to cover. And the over. 35-31, 38-32.


yeeesh. 5-2. Pats by 35! 83 scored total. wow. highest total of year?


@ HOUS -15 JAX 40.5
Love these college football lines....Against better judgment, I'll pick a JAX cover. The number is fair, but.....it's just too much.

6-2. Texans by 6.



CIN -3 @ KC 43.5
Cin outright.

7-2.


NO -5.5 @ OAK 55
Also, I think this line should be higher; 6.5, maybe even 7. So since it is a shorter line IMO, I'll invoke my NFC South @ West Coast Theorem and pick OAK to cover. Yes i know NO is on a 4-1 run.


7-3. NO by 21. and 5-1 for NO. can they make it back to South relevance? Wild card?

@ DEN -8 SD 48
I'm gonna say SD cover.


8-3. Donks by 7.


BALT -3 @ Pittsburgh 40
Gotta say Balt outright.
and if that ends up being right (you see this coming, don't you), "tell them I had it first on Twitter."



gaaaah. it was 3 exactly, so that is a loss. 8-4. i thought they'd win by more. ehh.



@ SFO -6.5 CHI 37
Did I hear Cutler's out? and possibly Aaron Smith or whatever his name is too? I'll hold off until I read more about it.


and I was catastrophically wrong. i said CHI by 10.

8-5.
 
2012-11-20 05:28:39 PM

HaywoodJablonski: I'm an embarrassment to Fark Football. How did I not know that?


Don't feel bad. I had that wrong as well.
 
2012-11-20 05:33:54 PM

Dammit the Jake beat me! I've been slacking here, but working IRL boooooooooooooooo. Anyway. Graph 1!

i.imgur.com


Clicky poppy to bigger for those of you who are into that sort of thing.

Useless metadata that nobody cares about:

Change from Week 1 to this week :
One 20 point drops: Eagles
One 17 point jump: Colts

No teams ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE (back at their Week 1 rankings)

Number of times rankings have changed:
4 teams have changed every week: Chargers, Cowboys, Rams, Dolphins
1 team has moved thrice: Jaguars

Difference between high rank & low rank:
Lowest fluctuation: Jaguars with 2
Highest fluctuation: Vikings with 22
Average fluctuation: 10.84

Overall fluctuation travel:
Smallest: Jaguars with 4
Highest: Saints with 44

Teams hitting their highest rank this week: Buccaneers
Teams hitting their lowest rank this week: Sad Eagles, Sad Chargers, & Sad Cardinals

-Cardinals hit their lowest rank this week. Their previous lowest rank was in week 1
-Redskins had their lowest rank in week 1 & their highest in week 2 (24 & 15), the only team to have their high/low in consecutive weeks.
-For the 4th consecutive week, the Eagles have hit their lowest ranking of the year

Twelve teams did not change rank: F'ing lazy bums

Five teams have held the #1 spot
 
2012-11-20 05:34:50 PM
I was reading a stat that no rookie QB has gone into Foxborough and won since 1996. Knowing that, I don't think the Colts should feel too crushed - they win 3 more games, and I think they're automatically in the playoffs. Of course, they're going to get massacred in the first round, but it will make for a nice Cinderella story.
 
2012-11-20 05:38:42 PM

Shaggy_C: I was reading a stat that no rookie QB has gone into Foxborough and won since 1996. Knowing that, I don't think the Colts should feel too crushed - they win 3 more games, and I think they're automatically in the playoffs. Of course, they're going to get massacred in the first round, but it will make for a nice Cinderella story.


I think the funniest thing I heard about that game was "Andrew Luck was in the 6th grade when Brady won his first Super Bowl"

My girlfriend turned to me and goes "Wow, that just made me feel old"
 
2012-11-20 05:41:29 PM

rickythepenguin: ***snip***

@ SFO -6.5 CHI 37
Did I hear Cutler's out? and possibly Aaron Smith or whatever his name is too? I'll hold off until I read more about it.


I can help you out on that one. Alex Smith is the QB that was taken in 2005 by the 49ers. They passed over Aaron Rodgers, who was subsequently taken by the Packers.

///Just looked it up on Wikipedia, 2005 was one helluva draft. From Alex Smith at #1 through Ryan Fitzpatrick at #250.
 
2012-11-20 05:45:14 PM
Cardinals and Eagles are on the same trajectory. Which will hit the ground and explode, first?
 
2012-11-20 05:49:18 PM

Nadie_AZ: Cardinals and Eagles are on the same trajectory. Which will hit the ground and explode, first?


why cant they go together?
 
2012-11-20 05:53:20 PM

NEDM: NEDM: Treygreen13: 2. Illegally kicking a ball out of bounds is a penalty of 10 yards and Loss of Down. This rule was changed this season to add the loss of down. I'm not sure why. If anyone can remember an occasion where a team illegally kicking a ball out of bounds benefited them lately, let me know.


There's a popular .gif of Mark Sanchez kicking a fumble out of the back of his own endzone to save a TD. That was probably one of the reason the rule got changed.

This one, to be specific.

However, I was wrong. That was from this year, so it was unlikely to have sparked that rulechange.


It is also a safety and loss of possession, so the down doesn't count.
 
2012-11-20 05:57:22 PM

Incorrigible Astronaut: libranoelrose: [i.imgur.com image 390x220]

I heart that gif.

/Worst 1-2-3 QB punch ever
//Team Blackout!


Yup. Chiefs fans are fed up.
 
2012-11-20 06:16:07 PM
Actually, I think the Bears game last night proved that Cutler isn't the Bears problem as much as their offensive line thinks that they are tour guides to the backfield, and that it doesn't matter who you put back there at QB (or worse, at WR), when it always looks like there's members of the opponent's defense lining up to take a handoff.
 
2012-11-20 06:19:33 PM
The Bears are too damn high! I would have put them 8-10. They might make the playoffs, but I can't see them winning more than one game.
 
2012-11-20 06:33:17 PM
The Jaguars have flatlined.
 
2012-11-20 06:38:09 PM
Iggles keep dropping... 

www.can-con.ca
 
2012-11-20 06:38:57 PM
If the Ravens lose any more players, they're going to start Matt Weiters as a TE.
 
2012-11-20 06:44:16 PM

Treygreen13: 1. Oakland Raiders - 33.9% of their plays this season are running plays - one might think that with Carson Palmer and a receiving corps that most people outside fantasy couldn't name with a gun to their head, you'd think they'd try to run a bit. But they aren't.


The Raiders can't keep a RB healthy long enough to try running more. I think they are on their 4th-stringer or something.
 
2012-11-20 06:48:12 PM
Packers' remaining schedule
@Giants
Vikings
Lions
@Bears
Titans
@Vikings

Falcons' remaining schedule
@Bucs
Saints
@Panthers
Giants
@Lions
Bucs

Both end up 12-4
 
2012-11-20 06:58:12 PM

Treygreen13: 1. Oakland Raiders - 33.9% of their plays this season are running plays - one might think that with Carson Palmer and a receiving corps that most people outside fantasy couldn't name with a gun to their head, you'd think they'd try to run a bit. But they aren't.


DA GREATNESS OF DA RAIDUHS IS IN DA VERTICAL PASSING GAME!!!
 
2012-11-20 06:59:19 PM

robbiex0r: Both end up 12-4


ESPN has their playoff maker up in case you wanted to map that out:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine?2012
 
2012-11-20 07:01:19 PM

Bunny Deville: The Jaguars have flatlined.


right after their dead cat bounce
 
2012-11-20 07:06:01 PM

Bunny Deville: The Jaguars have flatlined.


At least you guys have someone to feel superior to.
 
2012-11-20 07:17:47 PM
Not drunk this week, but I'm still putting my Bengals in the playoffs. It would be the first time in 30 years they've made the playoffs in consecutive years.

The Bengals are in the same place as the hyped Saints, but the Bengals are in a weaker conference with an easier schedule.

Cowboys & @Pittsburgh are the tough games left and I still believe the Ravens will be resting in Week 17. Eagles, Chargers, & Raiders round out the schedule.

And no I don't believe in the Colts and never have.

/farking Miami loss
 
2012-11-20 07:23:11 PM

bionicjoe: Not drunk this week, but I'm still putting my Bengals in the playoffs. It would be the first time in 30 years they've made the playoffs in consecutive years.

The Bengals are in the same place as the hyped Saints, but the Bengals are in a weaker conference with an easier schedule.

Cowboys & @Pittsburgh are the tough games left and I still believe the Ravens will be resting in Week 17. Eagles, Chargers, & Raiders round out the schedule.

And no I don't believe in the Colts and never have.

/farking Miami loss


The Bengals definitely have an 'up-and-coming' vibe to me. As a Ravens fan, that worries me. We don't need three good teams in the division.
 
2012-11-20 07:25:43 PM
Di Atribe, don't forget GRAF TOO. The numbers are already there for you, have been since Monday night's game went clownshoes.

Now that the epoch of byes is over, The Great Tiebreaker Spreadsheet makes it full season debut... sometime tonight.
 
2012-11-20 07:27:04 PM

bionicjoe: Not drunk this week, but I'm still putting my Bengals in the playoffs. It would be the first time in 30 years they've made the playoffs in consecutive years.

The Bengals are in the same place as the hyped Saints, but the Bengals are in a weaker conference with an easier schedule.

Cowboys & @Pittsburgh are the tough games left and I still believe the Ravens will be resting in Week 17. Eagles, Chargers, & Raiders round out the schedule.

And no I don't believe in the Colts and never have.

/farking Miami loss


want to argue, but that seems legit, especially with rberger out.
 
2012-11-20 08:07:12 PM
24.media.tumblr.com

Shiat, I forgot to color Carolina and Jacksonville orange; they cannot win their divisions. I will look into what sites I can use that will allow me to post these screenshots (1) for free, (2) clearly, (3) without having to do a lot of work.

No divisions that can be clinched this week, but four divisions feature a team with a 3 game lead and 6 to go, so Week 13 is likely to be when green and purple start making their way onto the chart. The tie will require only minimal reprogramming of the spreadsheet, partly to make it realize that 0.5-0.5 is not a completed and tied home-and-away, partly to make it realize that 1.5-0.5 is a completed and won home-and-away.
 
2012-11-20 08:08:31 PM

bionicjoe: Cowboys & @Pittsburgh are the tough games left and I still believe the Ravens will be resting in Week 17. Eagles, Chargers, & Raiders round out the schedule.


It looks like an easy road on paper, but I'm still leery of the Bengals' ability to win the games they're supposed to win. All they need is one bad loss, and the Colts or even one of the 4-6 teams could end up stealing the wildcard on a tiebreaker. Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of reason to be hopeful, but at the same time, well, Bungles gonna bungle.
 
2012-11-20 08:16:17 PM
justpredictions.webs.com

Here is a strength of SCHEDULE graph. This is similar in two important ways and yet differs in three important ways from Di's GRAF TOO.
Similarity #1: It tells you about what quality teams have played; who's had a cakewalk, and who's had the road of pain.
Difference #1: It averages the record of all teams each of these squads has PLAYED. Di's only includes the teams each squad has BEATEN.
Similarity #2: I crunch the numbers, via a tab in my TGTBSS file.
Difference #2: The axes are different. The better record you are, the further to the right; the harder the schedule, the higher up. NE corner means you've played well against a tough schedule, SW corner means you've sucked against teams that themselves sucked (lookin' at you, Chargers).
Difference #3: I don't spend the time making fancy icons for each team. I consider it the bare minimum to move the team tags around so they don't overlap.
 
2012-11-20 08:29:32 PM

INeedAName: three good teams in the division.


I honestly think the Stihlers dynasty is on its way down so I wouldn't worry for too long. Yeah I know the majority of their losses seemingly stem from injury, but I think their core players are past their prime.
 
2012-11-20 08:34:43 PM

Nadie_AZ: Cardinals and Eagles are on the same trajectory. Which will hit the ground and explode, first?


I'm hoping for the Eagles.


/Eagles fan.
//Hopes Foles plays better so they don't think they have to draft a QB this year
///because from what I can tell, this year's QB draft class sucks
////Just say no to Matt Barkley.
 
2012-11-20 09:31:02 PM

basemetal: /it's hard to be a Raiders fan


I've hated the Raiders for a lot of years, but I have to respect their remaining fanbase. From PSLs, to Al Davis' dumbfarkery, to retarded coaches, y'all are forced to root for a pale shadow of what used to be one of the greatest teams ever.

I'll still never forgive Al Davis for farking up the Coliseum for baseball.
 
2012-11-20 09:39:23 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: basemetal: /it's hard to be a Raiders fan

I've hated the Raiders for a lot of years, but I have to respect their remaining fanbase. From PSLs, to Al Davis' dumbfarkery, to retarded coaches, y'all are forced to root for a pale shadow of what used to be one of the greatest teams ever.

I'll still never forgive Al Davis for farking up the Coliseum for baseball.


Nor should you ever. It was a round Dodger Stadium before he destroyed it, as far as I'm concerned.
 
2012-11-20 09:46:57 PM

RminusQ: [24.media.tumblr.com image 850x397]

Shiat, I forgot to color Carolina and Jacksonville orange; they cannot win their divisions. I will look into what sites I can use that will allow me to post these screenshots (1) for free, (2) clearly, (3) without having to do a lot of work.

No divisions that can be clinched this week, but four divisions feature a team with a 3 game lead and 6 to go, so Week 13 is likely to be when green and purple start making their way onto the chart. The tie will require only minimal reprogramming of the spreadsheet, partly to make it realize that 0.5-0.5 is not a completed and tied home-and-away, partly to make it realize that 1.5-0.5 is a completed and won home-and-away.


Also the Texans can clinch a playoff spot this week if they win, Titans lose (at JAX), Dolphins lose (vs SEA), Bills lose(at IND), Bengals lose (vs Oakland), and then either Pit (at CLE) or San Diego (vs BAL) lose

/not very likely, but possibly clinching a playoff berth thanksgiving week is ridiculous
 
2012-11-20 10:38:15 PM

RminusQ: [justpredictions.webs.com image 737x541]

Here is a strength of SCHEDULE graph. This is similar in two important ways and yet differs in three important ways from Di's GRAF TOO.
Similarity #1: It tells you about what quality teams have played; who's had a cakewalk, and who's had the road of pain.
Difference #1: It averages the record of all teams each of these squads has PLAYED. Di's only includes the teams each squad has BEATEN.
Similarity #2: I crunch the numbers, via a tab in my TGTBSS file.
Difference #2: The axes are different. The better record you are, the further to the right; the harder the schedule, the higher up. NE corner means you've played well against a tough schedule, SW corner means you've sucked against teams that themselves sucked (lookin' at you, Chargers).
Difference #3: I don't spend the time making fancy icons for each team. I consider it the bare minimum to move the team tags around so they don't overlap.


I salute you!

Now that formalities are out of the way, WHAR Di's GRAF 2?!?!? WHAR?!??!?!
 
2012-11-20 10:52:03 PM

RminusQ: [justpredictions.webs.com image 737x541]

Here is a strength of SCHEDULE graph. This is similar in two important ways and yet differs in three important ways from Di's GRAF TOO.
Similarity #1: It tells you about what quality teams have played; who's had a cakewalk, and who's had the road of pain.
Difference #1: It averages the record of all teams each of these squads has PLAYED. Di's only includes the teams each squad has BEATEN.
Similarity #2: I crunch the numbers, via a tab in my TGTBSS file.
Difference #2: The axes are different. The better record you are, the further to the right; the harder the schedule, the higher up. NE corner means you've played well against a tough schedule, SW corner means you've sucked against teams that themselves sucked (lookin' at you, Chargers).
Difference #3: I don't spend the time making fancy icons for each team. I consider it the bare minimum to move the team tags around so they don't overlap.


Awesome, let's ditch Di's graf
 
2012-11-20 11:25:13 PM

neuroflare: RminusQ: ***snip***

Awesome, let's ditch Di's graf


24.media.tumblr.com

Oh HELL NAW!!!
 
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