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(LA Times)   Over the last 3,500 years the petroglyphs adorning the rock faces in the eastern Sierras have withstood, flood, fire, and earthquake, but they were no match for asshat thieves with rocksaws and power hammers   (articles.latimes.com) divider line 179
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2012-11-20 12:23:56 PM
And nothing of value was...

Oh, wait.


/Article is useless without glyphs.
 
2012-11-20 12:27:48 PM
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God damn it so much.

I hope those motherfarkers die horribly painful deaths, soon.

/has anyone checked to see if it was the Taliban?
 
2012-11-20 12:29:27 PM
How great is it going to be when Darrell Sheets finds these in a storage locker in five years?
 
2012-11-20 12:41:03 PM
I'm a fan of the death penalty for this crime, and this crime alone.
 
2012-11-20 12:48:59 PM
I can't imagine anyone would go to all that trouble unless they already had a buyer lined up.
 
2012-11-20 12:51:57 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: /has anyone checked to see if it was the Taliban?


Or conquistadors?


Sybarite: I can't imagine anyone would go to all that trouble unless they already had a buyer lined up.



Contract thieves?
 
2012-11-20 12:57:06 PM
The people who did this should be tortured and executed.
 
2012-11-20 01:01:02 PM
Ah, the human species. We really are our own worst enemies.
 
2012-11-20 01:02:05 PM
Submitter: Over the last 3,500 years the petroglyphs adorning the rock faces in the eastern Sierras Sierra have withstood, flood, fire, and earthquake, but they were no match for asshat thieves with rocksaws and power hammers

Sorry. Pet peeve. "Sierra" is not supposed to be pluralized--it means "mountain range," and you don't really mean to say "mountain ranges" here. I know people from outside the area make this mistake all the time, but most locals don't. At least TFA gets it right.

Anyway, turning to the substance of the article:

AdolfOliverPanties: I hope those motherfarkers die horribly painful deaths, soon.

Rincewind53: I'm a fan of the death penalty for this crime, and this crime alone.


violentsalvation: The people who did this should be tortured and executed.


I fully endorse and concur with these sentiments.
 
2012-11-20 01:02:29 PM

violentsalvation: The people who did this should be tortured and executed.


I'm getting caught up on my Sons of Anarchy viewing which is probably why I suddendly flashed on that Russian guy the indians buried up to his neck and left to be eaten alive, over several days by picinic ants
 
2012-11-20 01:16:12 PM
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2012-11-20 01:34:36 PM
You know, the BLM seems to be failing pretty hard at protecting these resources. Last year defacement happened at Red Rocks, which is BLM managed. Luckily they found the assholes that did it. But still. It happened.
 
2012-11-20 01:42:58 PM

question_dj: You know, the BLM seems to be failing pretty hard at protecting these resources. Last year defacement happened at Red Rocks, which is BLM managed. Luckily they found the assholes that did it. But still. It happened.


How do you propose they protect something like this?
 
2012-11-20 01:56:04 PM

pudding7: question_dj: You know, the BLM seems to be failing pretty hard at protecting these resources. Last year defacement happened at Red Rocks, which is BLM managed. Luckily they found the assholes that did it. But still. It happened.

How do you propose they protect something like this?


Well, considering the fact that these folks were able to get power tools into the back country, I would say the BLM needs to step up having actual people on the ground walking the trails and going through sensitive areas on a more regular basis. That's how Hueco Tanks is protected and most acts of vandalism are petty and generally easily fixed. This kind of thing cannot be /stopped/ but it sure as hell can be reduced. The fact that folks used power tools to cut chunks monzontie boulders without a soul noticing shows there's problem.
 
2012-11-20 01:57:14 PM

pudding7: How do you propose they protect something like this?


Occasional security patrols?
 
2012-11-20 02:09:18 PM

Amos Quito: AdolfOliverPanties: /has anyone checked to see if it was the Taliban?

Or conquistadors?


Sybarite: I can't imagine anyone would go to all that trouble unless they already had a buyer lined up.


Contract thieves?



Sort of. From what I've read about professional art theft, they usually know someone they can sell to (or at least through) before committing the crime. That's part of why the recovery rate is somewhere below 10%. It's not like you're going to catch them trying to fence a famous painting through the usual channels, and it would be basically valueless to a thief without the right connections.
 
2012-11-20 02:23:38 PM

ShawnDoc: pudding7: How do you propose they protect something like this?

Occasional security patrols?


It would have to be more than occasional. Scrap theives here took up a freaking railroad line and no one noticed. Hell these people may have stolen the rocks in broad daylight, provided they had hardhats and orange vests and the lead one were carrying a clipboard, people would have just assumed they must belong there. Some of the best theives the world have ever known tend to hide in plain sight.
 
2012-11-20 02:27:14 PM
WTF? What's wrong with them?
 
2012-11-20 02:41:52 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: [windyscotty.files.wordpress.com image 800x600]
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God damn it so much.

I hope those motherfarkers die horribly painful deaths, soon.

/has anyone checked to see if it was the Taliban?



That is horrible.

Was this site East of town?
 
2012-11-20 02:45:05 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-20 02:45:41 PM
Somebody walked off with some scratched up rocks. Meh.
 
2012-11-20 02:49:09 PM
When they find these people I would like to see them get their cocks torn off with pliers and their balls slowly taken out with a blunt fish knife. And then truss them up and leave them slathered with honey on an ant hill in he desert.
 
2012-11-20 02:49:18 PM
*Nothing is written in stone pun here*

/Too soon?
 
2012-11-20 02:50:07 PM
Which part is the vandalism and which is the thingamajobber everyone is all whining about?
 
2012-11-20 02:50:13 PM
When the find these guys, penises should be removed with the same tools used for this act of asshattery.
 
2012-11-20 02:50:17 PM
Yeh; those would be easy as hell to trace through conventional art circles. Either it's a contract, or they are idiots that will try to sell it legitimately; or maybe a collector who wanted them.
 
2012-11-20 02:50:36 PM
I hope they had a buyer lined up because it might mean they didn't farking destroy it outright and it might be recoverable.

Damn them though. farking assholes.

:(
 
2012-11-20 02:50:51 PM

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 480x360]


www.drugs-forum.com
 
2012-11-20 02:50:53 PM

question_dj: pudding7: question_dj: You know, the BLM seems to be failing pretty hard at protecting these resources. Last year defacement happened at Red Rocks, which is BLM managed. Luckily they found the assholes that did it. But still. It happened.

How do you propose they protect something like this?

Well, considering the fact that these folks were able to get power tools into the back country, I would say the BLM needs to step up having actual people on the ground walking the trails and going through sensitive areas on a more regular basis. That's how Hueco Tanks is protected and most acts of vandalism are petty and generally easily fixed. This kind of thing cannot be /stopped/ but it sure as hell can be reduced. The fact that folks used power tools to cut chunks monzontie boulders without a soul noticing shows there's problem.


"People walking the trails" cost money. Taxes pay for stuff.
 
2012-11-20 02:51:06 PM
It just re-enforces the failure of the U.S. due to years GOP domestic and foreign policies which have destroy an once great nation.
 
2012-11-20 02:51:58 PM
Subby: "have withstood, flood, fire, and earthquake,"

Have, they, really? How, interesting!
 
2012-11-20 02:52:10 PM

Cyberluddite: Submitter: Over the last 3,500 years the petroglyphs adorning the rock faces in the eastern Sierras Sierra have withstood, flood, fire, and earthquake, but they were no match for asshat thieves with rocksaws and power hammers

Sorry. Pet peeve. "Sierra" is not supposed to be pluralized--it means "mountain range," and you don't really mean to say "mountain ranges" here. I know people from outside the area make this mistake all the time, but most locals don't. At least TFA gets it right.


Came here to say this, and am glad to see it's taken care of. Thank you.
The city of Clovis has the motto "Gateway to the Sierras," including a big farking sign over the main street downtown. Someone needs to be held accountable.
 
2012-11-20 02:52:38 PM
What the Hell? Why do this?
 
2012-11-20 02:53:35 PM

Cyberluddite: Submitter: Over the last 3,500 years the petroglyphs adorning the rock faces in the eastern Sierras Sierra have withstood, flood, fire, and earthquake, but they were no match for asshat thieves with rocksaws and power hammers

Sorry. Pet peeve. "Sierra" is not supposed to be pluralized--it means "mountain range," and you don't really mean to say "mountain ranges" here. I know people from outside the area make this mistake all the time, but most locals don't. At least TFA gets it right.

Anyway, turning to the substance of the article:

AdolfOliverPanties: I hope those motherfarkers die horribly painful deaths, soon.

Rincewind53: I'm a fan of the death penalty for this crime, and this crime alone.

violentsalvation: The people who did this should be tortured and executed.

I fully endorse and concur with these sentiments.


100% in agreement with you guys.
 
2012-11-20 02:53:44 PM
Rocksaws and power hammers and power saws and rock hammers.
 
2012-11-20 02:54:26 PM
l1.yimg.com 

Prometheus Geeks: They're not just petroglyphs; their a map. No, not just a map - an invitation.
 
2012-11-20 02:55:33 PM

Im_Gumby: ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 480x360]

[www.drugs-forum.com image 400x313]


OM NOM NOM!!!!

/only once.,
 
2012-11-20 02:55:47 PM
Probably could do a few remote cams with motion detection. Take a few that aren't stopping anything on the border and put them toward this.
 
2012-11-20 02:56:09 PM
Caksuckers.
I would love to have caught them doing it.
/not an ITG, but damned good with a slingshot and know how to get rid of a body in the mountains.
 
2012-11-20 02:56:42 PM

JerseyTim: How great is it going to be when Darrell Sheets Geraldo Rivdera finds doesn't find these in a storage locker Al Capone's secret room in five years?


More likely.
 
2012-11-20 02:56:54 PM

Suede head: When they find these people I would like to see them get their cocks torn off with pliers and their balls slowly taken out with a blunt fish knife. And then truss them up and leave them slathered with honey on an ant hill in he desert.


You need a life.
 
2012-11-20 02:59:12 PM

Suede head: When they find these people I would like to see them get their cocks torn off with pliers and their balls slowly taken out with a blunt fish knife. And then truss them up and leave them slathered with honey on an ant hill in he desert.


Dad....?
 
2012-11-20 02:59:22 PM

pudding7: question_dj: You know, the BLM seems to be failing pretty hard at protecting these resources. Last year defacement happened at Red Rocks, which is BLM managed. Luckily they found the assholes that did it. But still. It happened.

How do you propose they protect something like this?


Free market solutions.
 
2012-11-20 02:59:41 PM

question_dj: Well, considering the fact that these folks were able to get power tools into the back country, I would say the BLM needs to step up having actual people on the ground walking the trails and going through sensitive areas on a more regular basis.


So, you don't think the BLM is handling this issue correctly, and your suggestion to them would be to increase their payroll?

Err, uhm, I'm not really sure how best to put this, but I think they already know this, Einstein. Go get them more money and I'll betcha they'll be happy, delighted, to make it happen.
 
2012-11-20 03:00:03 PM
I don't give a rat's ass about any religious significance of the site, but it's certainly a shame that a historical/archaeological site was so fiendishly damaged.
 
2012-11-20 03:01:02 PM
I'm sorry this pisses you guys off so much. But I saw those glyphs and I just thought... "There's my new dinning room table!"

I'm going to have the rocks trimmed down to one thin slab and polished. It's going to be fantastic!
 
Bf+
2012-11-20 03:01:03 PM
Find them.
Kill them.
 
2012-11-20 03:02:08 PM

ChipNASA: Im_Gumby: ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 480x360]

[www.drugs-forum.com image 400x313]

OM NOM NOM!!!!

/only once.,


Tried it once, during highschool. I am never doing it ever, ever again. The one leading the trip was this semi-sociopath asshat idiot that was half-way insane. Led me to some very murky, murky trips. Threw up right afterwards, and had nightmares about it for about three days straight.

Other than that... No, just bad.

On the article at hand though, this sort of vandalism is not new. The museum I worked with was also the regional office of the Historic Preservation Institute, and we usually heard horror stories about tourists that stole/tried to steal tiny pieces of murals, carvings, and fossils from sights.

/Half of them were nationals
//The rest were either chinese or 'merkins
///Americans and the French were the most decent
 
2012-11-20 03:02:25 PM
C'mon! That shiat will look cool in my rec room!
 
2012-11-20 03:02:52 PM

Rincewind53: I'm a fan of the death penalty for this crime, and this crime alone.


Exactly. I might also make an exception to my 'death penalty is too barbaric for modern society' view in this instance.
 
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